Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Prashant Ji The meaning of Aap naa mariye swarag naajaaiye is as follows : You cannot enjoy the joys of heaven without actually dying yourself. Means to achieve great things,you have to work yourself. Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne adde(ankles) ragro bauji. Rab twaade te mehr karegaa. MEANS -- Nobody will come and put cake in your mouth.You have to help yourself in urdu.....Himmat-e-marda,Madad-e-khuda in english--God helps those,who help themselves Hope the meaning is clear to you. Rajeev K Khattar - " prashant pokarna " <satpra <lalkitab > Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:41 AM Re: [lalkitab] Re: Gifts and alms and message # 2586 > Rakeshji, > > I have already done the entire exercise and sent the > results to the group for solutions. Anyway I would > take intrest in sending you also again. > > Sirji I dont know Punjabi very well so could not make > out your comments. > > Thanks & Regards, > Prashant P > > > --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote: > > Prashant ji > > > > Thori si himmat karo. Go to UmeshSharma.com or > > astrospeak.indiatimes.com. Make your own Kundli. I > > will help you cast > > it per LK principles which is actually very very > > easy. Then download > > the Lal Kitab ebook from the files section of the > > group. That will > > give you some idea of the wrongs if any in your > > horoscope. Also > > download the Lal Kitab workbook in excel format to > > make your > > varshaphal. > > > > Bhai sahib hum punjabiyo mein kahte hai " Aap naa > > mariye swarag naa > > jaaiye " . Samjhe? > > > > Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne > > adde(ankles) ragro > > bauji. Rab twaade te mehr karegaa. > > > > Regards > > > > > > R S > > > > lalkitab , prashant pokarna > > <satpra> wrote: > > > To All Lalkitaab Guru's, > > > > > > I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just > > really > > > dropped down giving upaya's to the needy. The > > > discussions are just to upgrade each others > > knowledge > > > base, (which I dont disagree they should be there) > > but > > > finally I am not sure if anybody is benefited or > > > simply are the people who need those upaya's are > > > comforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails > > and > > > finally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch > > kismet > > > aur bhagwan par chod diya hai. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Prashant P > > > > > > > > > --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal> wrote: > > > > Ms Priya > > > > > > > > You should be very careful in what you say. I > > just > > > > have to cite one > > > > instance to rubbish your assertion about not > > helping > > > > the needy. The > > > > case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him > > > > clarifications each > > > > time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta. > > Forget > > > > the experts even a > > > > new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help > > make > > > > the materials for > > > > upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can > > be > > > > done? > > > > > > > > Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral > > > > issues? Are you going > > > > to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed > > either > > > > substantive or > > > > peripheral? > > > > > > > > Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in > > the > > > > group these days. > > > > Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though > > > > LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji > > > > have stated several times they are constrained > > for > > > > time presently, > > > > they are still responsive. If someone needs help > > ask > > > > Bhuvan Vashishta, > > > > Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become > > > > active in the group > > > > now).All of them are knowledgeable people. > > > > > > > > Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your > > > > choice of words and > > > > dont make blanket generalisations. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear badshaw, > > > > > > > > > > No body would answer that for you because that > > > > needs serious > > > > > scholarship. We in the group are interested in > > the > > > > peripherals and > > > > > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to > > the > > > > requests of the > > > > > needy have long since been dropped. You don't > > find > > > > people seeking > > > > > upaya here any more. > > > > > > > > > > wish I were more comforting. > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Gullu > > Badshaw " > > > > <acura_2004> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Rajeev Ji > > > > > > If you don't mind, can you > > please > > > > share your > > > > thoughts > > > > > > regarding Message # 2586 as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev > > KKhattar > > > > <lalkitab@v...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji > > > > > > > According to my little knowledge of > > > > lalkitab,we should not > > > > accept > > > > > > gifts of > > > > > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for > > > > example,rahu in 7th > > > > > > house...one > > > > > > > should not take electrical appliances as > > gift > > > > especially from > > > > in- > > > > > > laws. > > > > > > > one should not give gift of item related > > to > > > > benefic > > > > planet..like > > > > > on > > > > > > should > > > > > > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat > > in > > > > 7th house. > > > > > > > Comments from others are welcome. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > <lalkitab > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have > > > > understood it - is > > > > not > > > > > to > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > away in alms things representative of > > > > planets which are > > > > benefic > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic > > i.e. > > > > not to recieve > > > > them > > > > > in > > > > > > alms > > > > > > > > from anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they > > > > have evolved today, > > > > > what > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the differentiating line between Alms > > and > > > > Gifts? 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Just to add in marathi, "mele shiwya swarga dissat nahin."Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab wrote: Dear Prashant JiThe meaning of Aap naa mariye swarag naajaaiye is as follows :You cannot enjoy the joys of heaven without actually dying yourself. Meansto achieve great things,you have to work yourself.Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne adde(ankles) ragro bauji.Rab twaade te mehr karegaa.MEANS -- Nobody will come and put cake in your mouth.You have to helpyourselfin urdu.....Himmat-e-marda,Madad-e-khudain english--God helps those,who help themselvesHope the meaning is clear to you.Rajeev K Khattar-"prashant pokarna" <satpra<lalkitab >Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:41 AMRe: [lalkitab] Re: Gifts and alms and message # 2586> Rakeshji,>> I have already done the entire exercise and sent the> results to the group for solutions. Anyway I would> take intrest in sending you also again.>> Sirji I dont know Punjabi very well so could not make> out your comments.>> Thanks & Regards,> Prashant P>>> --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:> > Prashant ji> >> > Thori si himmat karo. Go to UmeshSharma.com or> > astrospeak.indiatimes.com. Make your own Kundli. I> > will help you cast> > it per LK principles which is actually very very> > easy. Then download> > the Lal Kitab ebook from the files section of the> > group. That will> > give you some idea of the wrongs if any in your> > horoscope. Also> > download the Lal Kitab workbook in excel format to> > make your> > varshaphal.> >> > Bhai sahib hum punjabiyo mein kahte hai " Aap naa> > mariye swarag naa> > jaaiye". Samjhe?> >> > Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne> > adde(ankles) ragro> > bauji. Rab twaade te mehr karegaa.> >> > Regards> >> >> > R S> >> > lalkitab , prashant pokarna> > <satpra> wrote:> > > To All Lalkitaab Guru's,> > >> > > I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just> > really> > > dropped down giving upaya's to the needy. The> > > discussions are just to upgrade each others> > knowledge> > > base, (which I dont disagree they should be there)> > but> > > finally I am not sure if anybody is benefited or> > > simply are the people who need those upaya's are> > > comforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails> > and> > > finally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch> > kismet> > > aur bhagwan par chod diya hai.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > > Prashant P> > >> > >> > > --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal> wrote:> > > > Ms Priya> > > >> > > > You should be very careful in what you say. I> > just> > > > have to cite one> > > > instance to rubbish your assertion about not> > helping> > > > the needy. The> > > > case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him> > > > clarifications each> > > > time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta.> > Forget> > > > the experts even a> > > > new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help> > make> > > > the materials for> > > > upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can> > be> > > > done?> > > >> > > > Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral> > > > issues? Are you going> > > > to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed> > either> > > > substantive or> > > > peripheral?> > > >> > > > Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in> > the> > > > group these days.> > > > Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though> > > > LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji> > > > have stated several times they are constrained> > for> > > > time presently,> > > > they are still responsive. If someone needs help> > ask> > > > Bhuvan Vashishta,> > > > Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become> > > > active in the group> > > > now).All of them are knowledgeable people.> > > >> > > > Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your> > > > choice of words and> > > > dont make blanket generalisations.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > >> > > > R S> > > >> > > > lalkitab , "bhooshanpriya"> > > > <bhooshanpriya>> > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear badshaw,> > > > >> > > > > No body would answer that for you because that> > > > needs serious> > > > > scholarship. We in the group are interested in> > the> > > > peripherals and> > > > > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to> > the> > > > requests of the> > > > > needy have long since been dropped. You don't> > find> > > > people seeking> > > > > upaya here any more.> > > > >> > > > > wish I were more comforting.> > > > >> > > > > priya> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > lalkitab , "Gullu> > Badshaw"> > > > <acura_2004>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Rajeev Ji> > > > > > If you don't mind, can you> > please> > > > share your> > > > thoughts> > > > > > regarding Message # 2586 as well.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thank You> > > > > >> > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev> > KKhattar> > > > <lalkitab@v...>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji> > > > > > > According to my little knowledge of> > > > lalkitab,we should not> > > > accept> > > > > > gifts of> > > > > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for> > > > example,rahu in 7th> > > > > > house...one> > > > > > > should not take electrical appliances as> > gift> > > > especially from> > > > in-> > > > > > laws.> > > > > > > one should not give gift of item related> > to> > > > benefic> > > > planet..like> > > > > on> > > > > > should> > > > > > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat> > in> > > > 7th house.> > > > > > > Comments from others are welcome.> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > -> > > > > > > "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal>> > > > > > > <lalkitab >> > > > > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have> > > > understood it - is> > > > not> > > > > to> > > > > > give> > > > > > > > away in alms things representative of> > > > planets which are> > > > benefic> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic> > i.e.> > > > not to recieve> > > > them> > > > > in> > > > > > alms> > > > > > > > from anyone.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they> > > > have evolved today,> > > > > what> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > the differentiating line between Alms> > and> > > > Gifts? 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