Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Bhatiaji My doubts are as follows: 1.Receiving gift and using gift are two different things. By just receiving the gift, Will one suffer? or he suffers if he uses that gift. 2.What about the gift we receive during marriage or birthday or aniversarries. Specially on birthday normally trend is to give gift and not the cash.Similerly at aniversarries. 3.When gift is received by the couples in marriage, the possibilities are there that one may have dbl planet and other may have exalted planet. In that case the same gift is bad for one and good for other. Will it have bad impact on spouse having dbl planet? Should they accept that gift or should they pass it over to others?? Kindly throw light on the above doubts. Regards Vinod Kumar Delhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Vinod ji Insofar as I could make out of what Bhatia Sahib said, if the gift is inimical to you dont partake of it/consume it/use it, just pass it on. However the further questions you raise are very pertinent and need deliberation by wiser minds. The reason why I am belaboring this is, that if we aspire to follow this system, then we have to see to what extent is it possible/practical for us to make our lives comply with it's tenets. Regards R S lalkitab , vinod kumar <chamakkam2003> wrote: > Dear Bhatiaji > My doubts are as follows: > > 1.Receiving gift and using gift are two different things. By just receiving the gift, Will one suffer? or he suffers if he uses that gift. > > 2.What about the gift we receive during marriage or birthday or aniversarries. Specially on birthday normally trend is to give gift and not the cash.Similerly at aniversarries. > > 3.When gift is received by the couples in marriage, the possibilities are there that one may have dbl planet and other may have exalted planet. In that case the same gift is bad for one and good for other. Will it have bad impact on spouse having dbl planet? Should they accept that gift or should they pass it over to others?? > > Kindly throw light on the above doubts. > > Regards > > Vinod Kumar > Delhi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Respected Vinod jee, [ 1 ] If you happen to get a gift , which you possibly could not refuse,instead of passing it on to some one else the best thing is to gift it to a temple. At least you are then absolved of the sin to have passed on the thing to some one else who might be harmed. When you gift it in a temple , you are not passing it on to any individual , hence there is no intention to harm any one. The mere act of receiving a gift doesnot effect you till such time that you use it. [ 2 ] In the Lal Kitab , there is a specific mention of gifts received at the time of the marriage. Such gifts , so the book says , do not effect you , irrespective of your planetary placements either in the janma kundali or the varsh phal kundali. But getting gifts after the marriage from the in-laws { sasural } , in certain cases , are prohibited. As regards for the other occasions, like birthdays or anniversaries , there is no reference in the book. When the book was written such occasions were not quite popular . I assume , and may be wrong , that these occasions too should be treated like the occasion of marriage and hence should not carry any prohibition. It appears that special occasions are exempted. [ 3 ] Since the gifts received at the time of marriage are exempted , the debilitated planets or not , it shouldn't concern either of the two. with regards to all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , vinod kumar <chamakkam2003> wrote: > Dear Bhatiaji > My doubts are as follows: > > 1.Receiving gift and using gift are two different things. By just receiving the gift, Will one suffer? or he suffers if he uses that gift. > > 2.What about the gift we receive during marriage or birthday or aniversarries. Specially on birthday normally trend is to give gift and not the cash.Similerly at aniversarries. > > 3.When gift is received by the couples in marriage, the possibilities are there that one may have dbl planet and other may have exalted planet. In that case the same gift is bad for one and good for other. Will it have bad impact on spouse having dbl planet? Should they accept that gift or should they pass it over to others?? > > Kindly throw light on the above doubts. > > Regards > > Vinod Kumar > Delhi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Vinod Jee Respected Bhuvan Jee, Most humbly, without trying to offend anyone, I wish to present my views on this topic. My comments are based on various past discussions with numerous LalKitab scholars. My comments are embedded in the mail message below in bold letters and enclosed in { }. Respectfully, Rajinder Bhatia bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha wrote: Respected Vinod jee,[ 1 ] If you happen to get a gift , which you possibly could not refuse,instead of passing it on to some one else the best thing is to gift it to a temple. At least you are then absolved of the sin to have passed on the thing to some one else who might be harmed. When you gift it in a temple , you are not passing it on to any individual , hence there is no intention to harm any one. The mere act of receiving a gift doesnot effect you till such time that you use it. {Agreed 200% (have done that many times) -- pass the gift on to the temple. But what do I do when somebody brings a bottle of wine/whiskey as a gift? I can't take that to the temple. As far as keeping the gift at home is concerned (but not using it), you have established (qaayam kar liyaa hai) the article/gift in your home. Whether you use it or not, it is going to show its effect(benefic or malefic) - this is the most fundadamental "theorem" of LalKitab.}[ 2 ] In the Lal Kitab , there is a specific mention of gifts received at the time of the marriage. Such gifts , so the book says , do not effect you , irrespective of your planetary placements either in the janma kundali or the varsh phal kundali. But getting gifts after the marriage from the in-laws { sasural } , in certain cases , are prohibited. {Most definitely! the daughter with malefic Rahu should not take any electric appliances from her parents AFTER her marriage. If she does, she must make a token payment for that to her parents.} As regards for the other occasions, like birthdays or anniversaries , there is no reference in the book. When the book was written such occasions were not quite popular . I assume , and may be wrong , that these occasions too should be treated like the occasion of marriage and hence should not carry any prohibition. It appears that special occasions are exempted.{My apologies but I must've skipped this chapter. I most humbly request you to quote the chapter/page/edition where it is so stated for the benefit of all. ("Such gifts , so the book says , do not effect you , irrespective of your planetary placements either in the janma kundali or the varsh phal kundali.")} [ 3 ] Since the gifts received at the time of marriage are exempted , the debilitated planets or not , it shouldn't concern either of the two.with regards to all the gurujan,bhuwan<chamakkam2003> wrote: Dear Bhatiaji My doubts are as follows: 1.Receiving gift and using gift are two different things. By just receiving the gift, Will one suffer? or he suffers if he uses that gift. {Addressed above} 2.What about the gift we receive during marriage or birthday or aniversarries. Specially on birthday normally trend is to give gift and not the cash.Similerly at aniversarries.There is no exemption. You've established the "ashiyaa" of a planet at your home. 3.When gift is received by the couples in marriage, the possibilities are there that one may have dbl planet and other may have exalted planet. In that case the same gift is bad for one and good for other. Will it have bad impact on spouse having dbl planet? Should they accept that gift or should they pass it over to others??{Barring a few specific situations, after the marriage, the husband's horoscope is supposed to "overpower" the wife's horoscope (My apologies ladies, this is what LalKitab states.) The benefic and malefic planets give their effect based on the husband's horoscope.} Kindly throw light on the above doubts. Regards Vinod Kumar Delhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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