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Rajeev Ji

If you don't mind, can you please share your thoughts

regarding Message # 2586 as well.

 

Thank You

 

lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> According to my little knowledge of lalkitab,we should not accept

gifts of

> malefic planets in our horoscope ..for example,rahu in 7th

house...one

> should not take electrical appliances as gift especially from in-

laws.

> one should not give gift of item related to benefic planet..like on

should

> not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in 7th house.

> Comments from others are welcome.

> Regards

> Rajeev K Khattar

>

>

> -

> " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> <lalkitab >

> Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

>

>

> > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have understood it - is not to

give

> > away in alms things representative of planets which are benefic

for

> > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e. not to recieve them in

alms

> > from anyone.

> >

> > In the context of our lifestyles as they have evolved today, what

is

> > the differentiating line between Alms and Gifts? How does one

exercise

> > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for us?

> >

> > I hope some of the experts will share their thoughts with the

group.

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > R S

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Gullu Badshaw

reply to your query,as per my little knowledge of lalkitab is as follows :

 

Which planets are affected by these habbits and who should avoid

these activities ? ( i.e. which planet in which house )

 

 

[1] Buying or wearing a leather jacker, leather belt or leather

shoes...........when shani comes in 6th house in varshaphal

 

[2] Drinking milk at night ...........when moon in 8th/10th house OR

sat+moon combine

 

[3] Keeping a pet at home, dog or bird.------not to keep dog when rahu is in

7th house. not to keep birds when mercury malefic ( 3rd,11th)

 

[4] Drinking alcohol.................shani in lagna/11th ,mercury in

10th,rahu in 7th or 8th

 

[5] Eating meat, fish, egg etc.....when rahu/shani malefic eg. in 1,8,11

 

[6] Disrespectfull of elders....everybody must respect elders. no planets

suggests to disrespect our teachers and elders.

 

[7] Abusing children......everybody must respect elders. no planets suggests

to abuse children.

 

[8] Going to the temple...when malefic planets are placed in 2,6,8 and 12.

also one should not be too religious when jup in 10th. also avoid going to

temples when mer and rahu are in 8 and 12.

 

[9] Worshipping at home and keeping idols at home.....jupiter in 7th

 

[10] Extra martial affairs.......No planet suggests , one tends to have this

mentality when sun+sat combine or rahu +venus combine

 

[11] Visiting prostitutes........No planet suggests, one tends to have this

mentality when sun+sat combine or rahu +venus combine

 

Regards

Rajeev K Khattar

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Dear badshaw,

 

No body would answer that for you because that needs serious

scholarship. We in the group are interested in the peripherals and

may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to the requests of the

needy have long since been dropped. You don't find people seeking

upaya here any more.

 

wish I were more comforting.

 

priya

 

 

lalkitab , " Gullu Badshaw " <acura_2004>

wrote:

> Rajeev Ji

> If you don't mind, can you please share your thoughts

> regarding Message # 2586 as well.

>

> Thank You

>

> lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > According to my little knowledge of lalkitab,we should not accept

> gifts of

> > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for example,rahu in 7th

> house...one

> > should not take electrical appliances as gift especially from in-

> laws.

> > one should not give gift of item related to benefic planet..like

on

> should

> > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in 7th house.

> > Comments from others are welcome.

> > Regards

> > Rajeev K Khattar

> >

> >

> > -

> > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > <lalkitab >

> > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> >

> >

> > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have understood it - is not

to

> give

> > > away in alms things representative of planets which are benefic

> for

> > > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e. not to recieve them

in

> alms

> > > from anyone.

> > >

> > > In the context of our lifestyles as they have evolved today,

what

> is

> > > the differentiating line between Alms and Gifts? How does one

> exercise

> > > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for us?

> > >

> > > I hope some of the experts will share their thoughts with the

> group.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > R S

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Ms Priya

 

You should be very careful in what you say. I just have to cite one

instance to rubbish your assertion about not helping the needy. The

case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him clarifications each

time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta. Forget the experts even a

new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help make the materials for

upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can be done?

 

Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral issues? Are you going

to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed either substantive or

peripheral?

 

Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in the group these days.

Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji

have stated several times they are constrained for time presently,

they are still responsive. If someone needs help ask Bhuvan Vashishta,

Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become active in the group

now).All of them are knowledgeable people.

 

Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your choice of words and

dont make blanket generalisations.

 

Regards

 

 

R S

 

lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya>

wrote:

> Dear badshaw,

>

> No body would answer that for you because that needs serious

> scholarship. We in the group are interested in the peripherals and

> may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to the requests of the

> needy have long since been dropped. You don't find people seeking

> upaya here any more.

>

> wish I were more comforting.

>

> priya

>

>

> lalkitab , " Gullu Badshaw " <acura_2004>

> wrote:

> > Rajeev Ji

> > If you don't mind, can you please share your

thoughts

> > regarding Message # 2586 as well.

> >

> > Thank You

> >

> > lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > > According to my little knowledge of lalkitab,we should not

accept

> > gifts of

> > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for example,rahu in 7th

> > house...one

> > > should not take electrical appliances as gift especially from

in-

> > laws.

> > > one should not give gift of item related to benefic

planet..like

> on

> > should

> > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in 7th house.

> > > Comments from others are welcome.

> > > Regards

> > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > > <lalkitab >

> > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> > >

> > >

> > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have understood it - is

not

> to

> > give

> > > > away in alms things representative of planets which are

benefic

> > for

> > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e. not to recieve

them

> in

> > alms

> > > > from anyone.

> > > >

> > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they have evolved today,

> what

> > is

> > > > the differentiating line between Alms and Gifts? How does one

> > exercise

> > > > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for us?

> > > >

> > > > I hope some of the experts will share their thoughts with the

> > group.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > R S

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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To All Lalkitaab Guru's,

 

I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just really

dropped down giving upaya's to the needy. The

discussions are just to upgrade each others knowledge

base, (which I dont disagree they should be there) but

finally I am not sure if anybody is benefited or

simply are the people who need those upaya's are

comforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails and

finally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch kismet

aur bhagwan par chod diya hai.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Prashant P

 

 

--- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:

> Ms Priya

>

> You should be very careful in what you say. I just

> have to cite one

> instance to rubbish your assertion about not helping

> the needy. The

> case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him

> clarifications each

> time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta. Forget

> the experts even a

> new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help make

> the materials for

> upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can be

> done?

>

> Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral

> issues? Are you going

> to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed either

> substantive or

> peripheral?

>

> Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in the

> group these days.

> Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though

> LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji

> have stated several times they are constrained for

> time presently,

> they are still responsive. If someone needs help ask

> Bhuvan Vashishta,

> Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become

> active in the group

> now).All of them are knowledgeable people.

>

> Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your

> choice of words and

> dont make blanket generalisations.

>

> Regards

>

>

> R S

>

> lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

> <bhooshanpriya>

> wrote:

> > Dear badshaw,

> >

> > No body would answer that for you because that

> needs serious

> > scholarship. We in the group are interested in the

> peripherals and

> > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to the

> requests of the

> > needy have long since been dropped. You don't find

> people seeking

> > upaya here any more.

> >

> > wish I were more comforting.

> >

> > priya

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " Gullu Badshaw "

> <acura_2004>

> > wrote:

> > > Rajeev Ji

> > > If you don't mind, can you please

> share your

> thoughts

> > > regarding Message # 2586 as well.

> > >

> > > Thank You

> > >

> > > lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar

> <lalkitab@v...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > > > According to my little knowledge of

> lalkitab,we should not

> accept

> > > gifts of

> > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for

> example,rahu in 7th

> > > house...one

> > > > should not take electrical appliances as gift

> especially from

> in-

> > > laws.

> > > > one should not give gift of item related to

> benefic

> planet..like

> > on

> > > should

> > > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in

> 7th house.

> > > > Comments from others are welcome.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have

> understood it - is

> not

> > to

> > > give

> > > > > away in alms things representative of

> planets which are

> benefic

> > > for

> > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e.

> not to recieve

> them

> > in

> > > alms

> > > > > from anyone.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they

> have evolved today,

> > what

> > > is

> > > > > the differentiating line between Alms and

> Gifts? How does one

> > > exercise

> > > > > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for

> us?

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope some of the experts will share their

> thoughts with the

> > > group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > R S

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Prashant ji

 

Thori si himmat karo. Go to UmeshSharma.com or

astrospeak.indiatimes.com. Make your own Kundli. I will help you cast

it per LK principles which is actually very very easy. Then download

the Lal Kitab ebook from the files section of the group. That will

give you some idea of the wrongs if any in your horoscope. Also

download the Lal Kitab workbook in excel format to make your

varshaphal.

 

Bhai sahib hum punjabiyo mein kahte hai " Aap naa mariye swarag naa

jaaiye " . Samjhe?

 

Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne adde(ankles) ragro

bauji. Rab twaade te mehr karegaa.

 

Regards

 

 

R S

 

lalkitab , prashant pokarna <satpra> wrote:

> To All Lalkitaab Guru's,

>

> I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just really

> dropped down giving upaya's to the needy. The

> discussions are just to upgrade each others knowledge

> base, (which I dont disagree they should be there) but

> finally I am not sure if anybody is benefited or

> simply are the people who need those upaya's are

> comforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails and

> finally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch kismet

> aur bhagwan par chod diya hai.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Prashant P

>

>

> --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal> wrote:

> > Ms Priya

> >

> > You should be very careful in what you say. I just

> > have to cite one

> > instance to rubbish your assertion about not helping

> > the needy. The

> > case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him

> > clarifications each

> > time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta. Forget

> > the experts even a

> > new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help make

> > the materials for

> > upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can be

> > done?

> >

> > Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral

> > issues? Are you going

> > to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed either

> > substantive or

> > peripheral?

> >

> > Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in the

> > group these days.

> > Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though

> > LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji

> > have stated several times they are constrained for

> > time presently,

> > they are still responsive. If someone needs help ask

> > Bhuvan Vashishta,

> > Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become

> > active in the group

> > now).All of them are knowledgeable people.

> >

> > Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your

> > choice of words and

> > dont make blanket generalisations.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > R S

> >

> > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

> > <bhooshanpriya>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear badshaw,

> > >

> > > No body would answer that for you because that

> > needs serious

> > > scholarship. We in the group are interested in the

> > peripherals and

> > > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to the

> > requests of the

> > > needy have long since been dropped. You don't find

> > people seeking

> > > upaya here any more.

> > >

> > > wish I were more comforting.

> > >

> > > priya

> > >

> > >

> > > lalkitab , " Gullu Badshaw "

> > <acura_2004>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Rajeev Ji

> > > > If you don't mind, can you please

> > share your

> > thoughts

> > > > regarding Message # 2586 as well.

> > > >

> > > > Thank You

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar

> > <lalkitab@v...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > > > > According to my little knowledge of

> > lalkitab,we should not

> > accept

> > > > gifts of

> > > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for

> > example,rahu in 7th

> > > > house...one

> > > > > should not take electrical appliances as gift

> > especially from

> > in-

> > > > laws.

> > > > > one should not give gift of item related to

> > benefic

> > planet..like

> > > on

> > > > should

> > > > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in

> > 7th house.

> > > > > Comments from others are welcome.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have

> > understood it - is

> > not

> > > to

> > > > give

> > > > > > away in alms things representative of

> > planets which are

> > benefic

> > > > for

> > > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e.

> > not to recieve

> > them

> > > in

> > > > alms

> > > > > > from anyone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they

> > have evolved today,

> > > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > the differentiating line between Alms and

> > Gifts? How does one

> > > > exercise

> > > > > > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for

> > us?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope some of the experts will share their

> > thoughts with the

> > > > group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > R S

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Rakeshji,

 

I have already done the entire exercise and sent the

results to the group for solutions. Anyway I would

take intrest in sending you also again.

 

Sirji I dont know Punjabi very well so could not make

out your comments.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Prashant P

 

 

--- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:

> Prashant ji

>

> Thori si himmat karo. Go to UmeshSharma.com or

> astrospeak.indiatimes.com. Make your own Kundli. I

> will help you cast

> it per LK principles which is actually very very

> easy. Then download

> the Lal Kitab ebook from the files section of the

> group. That will

> give you some idea of the wrongs if any in your

> horoscope. Also

> download the Lal Kitab workbook in excel format to

> make your

> varshaphal.

>

> Bhai sahib hum punjabiyo mein kahte hai " Aap naa

> mariye swarag naa

> jaaiye " . Samjhe?

>

> Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne

> adde(ankles) ragro

> bauji. Rab twaade te mehr karegaa.

>

> Regards

>

>

> R S

>

> lalkitab , prashant pokarna

> <satpra> wrote:

> > To All Lalkitaab Guru's,

> >

> > I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just

> really

> > dropped down giving upaya's to the needy. The

> > discussions are just to upgrade each others

> knowledge

> > base, (which I dont disagree they should be there)

> but

> > finally I am not sure if anybody is benefited or

> > simply are the people who need those upaya's are

> > comforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails

> and

> > finally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch

> kismet

> > aur bhagwan par chod diya hai.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Prashant P

> >

> >

> > --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal> wrote:

> > > Ms Priya

> > >

> > > You should be very careful in what you say. I

> just

> > > have to cite one

> > > instance to rubbish your assertion about not

> helping

> > > the needy. The

> > > case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him

> > > clarifications each

> > > time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta.

> Forget

> > > the experts even a

> > > new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help

> make

> > > the materials for

> > > upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can

> be

> > > done?

> > >

> > > Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral

> > > issues? Are you going

> > > to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed

> either

> > > substantive or

> > > peripheral?

> > >

> > > Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in

> the

> > > group these days.

> > > Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though

> > > LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji

> > > have stated several times they are constrained

> for

> > > time presently,

> > > they are still responsive. If someone needs help

> ask

> > > Bhuvan Vashishta,

> > > Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become

> > > active in the group

> > > now).All of them are knowledgeable people.

> > >

> > > Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your

> > > choice of words and

> > > dont make blanket generalisations.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > R S

> > >

> > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

> > > <bhooshanpriya>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear badshaw,

> > > >

> > > > No body would answer that for you because that

> > > needs serious

> > > > scholarship. We in the group are interested in

> the

> > > peripherals and

> > > > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to

> the

> > > requests of the

> > > > needy have long since been dropped. You don't

> find

> > > people seeking

> > > > upaya here any more.

> > > >

> > > > wish I were more comforting.

> > > >

> > > > priya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , " Gullu

> Badshaw "

> > > <acura_2004>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Rajeev Ji

> > > > > If you don't mind, can you

> please

> > > share your

> > > thoughts

> > > > > regarding Message # 2586 as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank You

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev

> KKhattar

> > > <lalkitab@v...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > > > > > According to my little knowledge of

> > > lalkitab,we should not

> > > accept

> > > > > gifts of

> > > > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for

> > > example,rahu in 7th

> > > > > house...one

> > > > > > should not take electrical appliances as

> gift

> > > especially from

> > > in-

> > > > > laws.

> > > > > > one should not give gift of item related

> to

> > > benefic

> > > planet..like

> > > > on

> > > > > should

> > > > > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat

> in

> > > 7th house.

> > > > > > Comments from others are welcome.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have

> > > understood it - is

> > > not

> > > > to

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > away in alms things representative of

> > > planets which are

> > > benefic

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic

> i.e.

> > > not to recieve

> > > them

> > > > in

> > > > > alms

> > > > > > > from anyone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they

> > > have evolved today,

> > > > what

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > the differentiating line between Alms

> and

> > > Gifts? How does one

>

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Dear Ms/Mr Priya

 

Sorry i with due respect to your age (i do not know

what age you are exactly) would like to state that you

are not keeping up to the norms of lalkitab which says

that you should never annoy or insult your elders,

gurujans.

 

i personally feel that what ever you said is not at

all true, as it is only around 1 and half month or so

that i have joined this group and could continously

observe that the gurujans and experts like muditji,

bhatia jee, punitji, and bhuwan ji are always out with

their suggestions and upays whenever one had asked for

it.

 

I do agree that once or twice the things might have

left unreplied but this do not mean that they will not

reply to it ever, may be they are working on it or may

be they are busy due to some or the other reason, they

also have their life, we should be grateful to them

that they are giving their valued time from their from

their routine schedule and replying us just for

helping us without any selfcentered motive resting in

doing so with them,

 

SO I FEEL YOU SHOULD BE SORRY FOR WHAT EVER YOU HAVE

STATED ABOUT THEM.

 

I DO RESPECT YOUR FEELINGS TOO BUT TRY TO UNDERSTAND

OTHERS ALSO.

 

PLS. FORGIVE ME IF I HAVE HURT YOU

 

WITH best regards

 

ARCHANA CHOUHAN --- bhooshanpriya

<bhooshanpriya wrote:

> Dear badshaw,

>

> No body would answer that for you because that needs

> serious

> scholarship. We in the group are interested in the

> peripherals and

> may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to the

> requests of the

> needy have long since been dropped. You don't find

> people seeking

> upaya here any more.

>

> wish I were more comforting.

>

> priya

>

>

> lalkitab , " Gullu Badshaw "

> <acura_2004>

> wrote:

> > Rajeev Ji

> > If you don't mind, can you please

> share your thoughts

> > regarding Message # 2586 as well.

> >

> > Thank You

> >

> > lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar

> <lalkitab@v...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > > According to my little knowledge of lalkitab,we

> should not accept

> > gifts of

> > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for

> example,rahu in 7th

> > house...one

> > > should not take electrical appliances as gift

> especially from in-

> > laws.

> > > one should not give gift of item related to

> benefic planet..like

> on

> > should

> > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in 7th

> house.

> > > Comments from others are welcome.

> > > Regards

> > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > > <lalkitab >

> > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> > >

> > >

> > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have

> understood it - is not

> to

> > give

> > > > away in alms things representative of planets

> which are benefic

> > for

> > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e. not

> to recieve them

> in

> > alms

> > > > from anyone.

> > > >

> > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they have

> evolved today,

> what

> > is

> > > > the differentiating line between Alms and

> Gifts? How does one

> > exercise

> > > > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for us?

> > > >

> > > > I hope some of the experts will share their

> thoughts with the

> > group.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > R S

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Prashant ji/ Priya ji,

 

It is just a cycle. Sometimes experts do have time to answer and sometimes not. There are various scholars in this group and they take their time out (thanks to them) for the group. They try to help in learning Lal Kitab as well as try to solve other's problems. Only problem is time. If you are an old member of this group, you might remember that it is Upadhyay ji who were taking the lead in solving queries and providing remedies. Nowadays, he is out of group and this progress is slowed down a little. But there is not change in the group's policy. Although learning Lal Kitab is always the primary objective of this group but I hope even non-astrologers will get benefited from this group.

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandeyprashant pokarna <satpra wrote:

To All Lalkitaab Guru's,I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just reallydropped down giving upaya's to the needy. Thediscussions are just to upgrade each others knowledgebase, (which I dont disagree they should be there) butfinally I am not sure if anybody is benefited orsimply are the people who need those upaya's arecomforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails andfinally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch kismetaur bhagwan par chod diya hai.Thanks & Regards,Prashant P--- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal wrote:> Ms Priya> > You should be very careful in what you say. I just> have to cite one> instance to rubbish your assertion about not helping> the needy. The> case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him> clarifications

each> time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta. Forget> the experts even a> new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help make> the materials for> upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can be> done?> > Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral> issues? Are you going> to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed either> substantive or> peripheral? > > Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in the> group these days.> Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though> LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji> have stated several times they are constrained for> time presently,> they are still responsive. If someone needs help ask> Bhuvan Vashishta,> Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become> active in the group> now).All of them are knowledgeable people.> > Kindly be judicious and discriminating in

your> choice of words and> dont make blanket generalisations.> > Regards> > > R S> > lalkitab , "bhooshanpriya"> <bhooshanpriya>> wrote:> > Dear badshaw,> > > > No body would answer that for you because that> needs serious > > scholarship. We in the group are interested in the> peripherals and > > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to the> requests of the > > needy have long since been dropped. You don't find> people seeking > > upaya here any more.> > > > wish I were more comforting.> > > > priya> > > > > > lalkitab , "Gullu Badshaw"> <acura_2004> > > wrote:> > > Rajeev Ji> >

> If you don't mind, can you please> share your> thoughts > > > regarding Message # 2586 as well.> > > > > > Thank You> > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar> <lalkitab@v...> > > > wrote:> > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji> > > > According to my little knowledge of> lalkitab,we should not> accept > > > gifts of> > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for> example,rahu in 7th > > > house...one> > > > should not take electrical appliances as gift> especially from> in-> > > laws.> > > > one should not give gift of item related to> benefic> planet..like > > on > > > should> > >

> not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat in> 7th house.> > > > Comments from others are welcome.> > > > Regards> > > > Rajeev K Khattar> > > > > > > > > > > > -> > > > "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal>> > > > <lalkitab >> > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM> > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms> > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have> understood it - is> not > > to > > > give> > > > > away in alms things representative of> planets which are> benefic > > > for> > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic i.e.> not to recieve> them > > in

> > > alms> > > > > from anyone.> > > > >> > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they> have evolved today, > > what > > > is> > > > > the differentiating line between Alms and> Gifts? How does one > > > exercise> > > > > due caution WRT items benefic/malefic for> us?> > > > >> > > > > I hope some of the experts will share their> thoughts with the > > > group.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > R S> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

Groups Links> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >

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Prashant ji

 

I am NOT QUALIFIED IN ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER to read your kundli and

suggest remedial measures to you. My skill level is not even past the

elementary stage yet.

 

However please post your details again. I am sure one of the experts

will take out some time for you.

 

Regards

 

 

R S

 

lalkitab , prashant pokarna <satpra> wrote:

> Rakeshji,

>

> I have already done the entire exercise and sent the

> results to the group for solutions. Anyway I would

> take intrest in sending you also again.

>

> Sirji I dont know Punjabi very well so could not make

> out your comments.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Prashant P

>

>

> --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal> wrote:

> > Prashant ji

> >

> > Thori si himmat karo. Go to UmeshSharma.com or

> > astrospeak.indiatimes.com. Make your own Kundli. I

> > will help you cast

> > it per LK principles which is actually very very

> > easy. Then download

> > the Lal Kitab ebook from the files section of the

> > group. That will

> > give you some idea of the wrongs if any in your

> > horoscope. Also

> > download the Lal Kitab workbook in excel format to

> > make your

> > varshaphal.

> >

> > Bhai sahib hum punjabiyo mein kahte hai " Aap naa

> > mariye swarag naa

> > jaaiye " . Samjhe?

> >

> > Twaanu gujiyaa koi vi nahi khwaan vaala. Zare apne

> > adde(ankles) ragro

> > bauji. Rab twaade te mehr karegaa.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > R S

> >

> > lalkitab , prashant pokarna

> > <satpra> wrote:

> > > To All Lalkitaab Guru's,

> > >

> > > I also agree with Ms Priya, this group has just

> > really

> > > dropped down giving upaya's to the needy. The

> > > discussions are just to upgrade each others

> > knowledge

> > > base, (which I dont disagree they should be there)

> > but

> > > finally I am not sure if anybody is benefited or

> > > simply are the people who need those upaya's are

> > > comforted. I myself have sent some 7 to 8 mails

> > and

> > > finally stopped begging for solution. Sab kuch

> > kismet

> > > aur bhagwan par chod diya hai.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Prashant P

> > >

> > >

> > > --- rakeshsahgal <rakeshsahgal> wrote:

> > > > Ms Priya

> > > >

> > > > You should be very careful in what you say. I

> > just

> > > > have to cite one

> > > > instance to rubbish your assertion about not

> > helping

> > > > the needy. The

> > > > case of Shyamsunder ji. Lal Kitabi ji gave him

> > > > clarifications each

> > > > time he sought one, as did Bhuvan Vashishta.

> > Forget

> > > > the experts even a

> > > > new initiate like Ms Chouhan pitched in to help

> > make

> > > > the materials for

> > > > upays available to ShyamSunder ji. What more can

> > be

> > > > done?

> > > >

> > > > Where is the ego trip? What are the peripheral

> > > > issues? Are you going

> > > > to set the benchmarks for issues beng classed

> > either

> > > > substantive or

> > > > peripheral?

> > > >

> > > > Prof Upadhyaya unfortunately is not active in

> > the

> > > > group these days.

> > > > Umesh ji is always responsive. Even though

> > > > LalKitabee ji and Bhatia ji

> > > > have stated several times they are constrained

> > for

> > > > time presently,

> > > > they are still responsive. If someone needs help

> > ask

> > > > Bhuvan Vashishta,

> > > > Punit Pandey and Rajeev Khattar(who has become

> > > > active in the group

> > > > now).All of them are knowledgeable people.

> > > >

> > > > Kindly be judicious and discriminating in your

> > > > choice of words and

> > > > dont make blanket generalisations.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > R S

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya "

> > > > <bhooshanpriya>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear badshaw,

> > > > >

> > > > > No body would answer that for you because that

> > > > needs serious

> > > > > scholarship. We in the group are interested in

> > the

> > > > peripherals and

> > > > > may be an ego trip now and then. Attending to

> > the

> > > > requests of the

> > > > > needy have long since been dropped. You don't

> > find

> > > > people seeking

> > > > > upaya here any more.

> > > > >

> > > > > wish I were more comforting.

> > > > >

> > > > > priya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab , " Gullu

> > Badshaw "

> > > > <acura_2004>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Rajeev Ji

> > > > > > If you don't mind, can you

> > please

> > > > share your

> > > > thoughts

> > > > > > regarding Message # 2586 as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank You

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev

> > KKhattar

> > > > <lalkitab@v...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Rakesh Sahgal Ji

> > > > > > > According to my little knowledge of

> > > > lalkitab,we should not

> > > > accept

> > > > > > gifts of

> > > > > > > malefic planets in our horoscope ..for

> > > > example,rahu in 7th

> > > > > > house...one

> > > > > > > should not take electrical appliances as

> > gift

> > > > especially from

> > > > in-

> > > > > > laws.

> > > > > > > one should not give gift of item related

> > to

> > > > benefic

> > > > planet..like

> > > > > on

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > not gift alcohol ( wine/whisky ) when sat

> > in

> > > > 7th house.

> > > > > > > Comments from others are welcome.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

> > > > > > > <lalkitab >

> > > > > > > Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:53 PM

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Gifts and alms

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One of the rules of Lal Kitab as I have

> > > > understood it - is

> > > > not

> > > > > to

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > away in alms things representative of

> > > > planets which are

> > > > benefic

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > one and vice versa for things Malefic

> > i.e.

> > > > not to recieve

> > > > them

> > > > > in

> > > > > > alms

> > > > > > > > from anyone.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the context of our lifestyles as they

> > > > have evolved today,

> > > > > what

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > the differentiating line between Alms

> > and

> > > > Gifts? How does one

> >

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