Guest guest Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Respected Rakesh jee, The text States that saturn, jupiter, venus, rahu and ketu are considered to be panchayat or at the time when jupiter and venus and the three paapi planets have the common result(phal)by aspect or otherwise , then jupiter will deliver excellent results(mixed wordly domestic(sanjha duniyavi grahst). when jupiter, moon,venus saturn and rahu are conjoined by aspects then even if the person is not shrewd he will succeed in worldly affairs by divine grace. the line of jupiter will deliver positive results in a real sense. venus with one male planet and three paapi planets when occupying such a house in which rahu or keetu is not occuping the same house and is giving its effect or when venus and moon or any two of the paapi planets are excuded from the same house and venus and moon are delivering their results exept mercury, then although the person is not shrewd he will succeed in worldly affairs by divine grace.jupiter will deliver excellent results regarding domestic life as well provide all amenities and luxuries for life. the native will be in a commanding position and blessed with male progeny. that panchayat is nek (fair) in which mercury is not involved. but one of the two rahu and ketu is surely present. venus,jupiter,saturn,sunmercury all five of them till house no. 6 conjoined or kayam(independent) give excellent male issues.Samudrik- All fingers are in ascending order. Rakesh ji my command over english is nothing compared with yours, kindly rectify the mistakes in translation for the benefit of other members of the group, if anything is missing request bhuwan ji to incorporate it. Regards kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Mr Vashistha & Kulbir, Many thanks for taking the trouble. I guess I will buy the Ananth book as well. Unfortunately I dont have the privelege of access to the original texts. Could you Mr. Vashsihtha please give me your understanding of the subject on this issue? And Kulbir ji mainu babe de mehr naal kadd changa milyaa hai, kaanu meri tang khichna hai tu bhraa ai ingrezzi di kamaand di gala kar ke? Anyway thanks for your kind words. Regards R S lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " <ceetabains> wrote: > Respected Rakesh jee, > > The text States that saturn, jupiter, venus, rahu and ketu are > considered to be panchayat or at the time when jupiter and venus and > the three paapi planets have the common result(phal)by aspect or > otherwise , then jupiter will deliver excellent results(mixed wordly > domestic(sanjha duniyavi grahst). > when jupiter, moon,venus saturn and rahu are conjoined by aspects then > even if the person is not shrewd he will succeed in worldly affairs by > divine grace. > the line of jupiter will deliver positive results in a real sense. > venus with one male planet and three paapi planets when occupying such > a house in which rahu or keetu is not occuping the same house and is > giving its effect or when venus and moon or any two of the paapi > planets are excuded from the same house and venus and moon are > delivering their results exept mercury, then although the person is > not shrewd he will succeed in worldly affairs by divine grace.jupiter > will deliver excellent results regarding domestic life as well provide > all amenities and luxuries for life. the native will be in a > commanding position and blessed with male progeny. > that panchayat is nek (fair) in which mercury is not involved. but one > of the two rahu and ketu is surely present. > venus,jupiter,saturn,sunmercury all five of them till house no. 6 > conjoined or kayam(independent) give excellent male issues.Samudrik- > All fingers are in ascending order. > > Rakesh ji my command over english is nothing compared with yours, > kindly rectify the mistakes in translation for the benefit of other > members of the group, if anything is missing request bhuwan ji to > incorporate it. > > Regards kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Respected Rakesh jee, the english translation Kulbir jee gave was from Arun Sanhita which is a hindi version of 1939 Lal Kitab. How correct Arun Sanhita is , i do not know because i donot have 1939 urdu edition. I am quoting in hindi 1952 urdu edition page 943 : PANCHAYAT - Panch grah sab se uttam panchayat woh hai jismein budh shamil nahi ho magar rahu ya ketu mein se ek zaroor shamil ho 1.nar grah stree grah maya papi grah [ sivaya budh] mushtarka ki panchayat ho to kismat ka dhani, hukm ran , sahibeaulad dar aulad , daulat va grahasti sukh sagar umda va lamba. umra lambi hogi.khud khwa akla ka andha va mitti ka madhau hi kyon na ho. 2. brahspati , suraj,shukra,budh shanishchar mushtarka panchayat ho to : [ i ] khana no 1 se 6 mein umda phal nek asar hoga [ ii ]khana no 7 se 12 mein uparka bhag ek [ i ] ka asar magar khud sakhta ameer hoga. aur darte darte dariya paar kar jaane wale tairak ki tarah duniya mein aasuda [ khushhal ] hoga. 3.panchayat [ koi bhi panch grah] ka asar har halat mein uttam aur nek hi hoga. agar aisa shakhsh panchon hi [ kul zamane ke] aib ka maalik bhi ho jawe to bhi auron se uttam va umda hoga. agar panchayat ke grahon mein koi bhi papi [ rahu ketu shanishchar ] shamil na ho aur woh prani khud bhi pap na karne wala ho to aisi panchayat ka koi fayada na hoga. matlab yah ki ya topanch grahon mein papi zaroor ho ya woh prani khud shararati aur papi ho to panchayat ke grah uttam phal denge. varna uski ankhon ke samne uska ghar kai dafa lutata hoga. dharmi rahte hue papi grahon ki ashiya logon mein mufta taqseem karna mubarik phal paida karega. maslan rahu ketu ki mutallka aashiya jau anaj ki bani hui cheezen nariyal ki khairat ,ketu ki mutallka aashiya ke liye sirf khataee ki aashiya , shanishchar badam sharab sigret hukkanoshi ya nashe ki cheezein. with respect for all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> wrote: > Mr Vashistha & Kulbir, > > Many thanks for taking the trouble. > I guess I will buy the Ananth book as well. Unfortunately I dont have > the privelege of access to the original texts. Could you Mr. > Vashsihtha please give me your understanding of the subject on this > issue? > > And Kulbir ji mainu babe de mehr naal kadd changa milyaa hai, kaanu > meri tang khichna hai tu bhraa ai ingrezzi di kamaand di gala kar ke? > Anyway thanks for your kind words. > > Regards > > > R S > > > lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > <ceetabains> wrote: > > Respected Rakesh jee, > > > > The text States that saturn, jupiter, venus, rahu and ketu are > > considered to be panchayat or at the time when jupiter and venus and > > the three paapi planets have the common result(phal)by aspect or > > otherwise , then jupiter will deliver excellent results(mixed wordly > > domestic(sanjha duniyavi grahst). > > when jupiter, moon,venus saturn and rahu are conjoined by aspects > then > > even if the person is not shrewd he will succeed in worldly affairs > by > > divine grace. > > the line of jupiter will deliver positive results in a real sense. > > venus with one male planet and three paapi planets when occupying > such > > a house in which rahu or keetu is not occuping the same house and is > > giving its effect or when venus and moon or any two of the paapi > > planets are excuded from the same house and venus and moon are > > delivering their results exept mercury, then although the person is > > not shrewd he will succeed in worldly affairs by divine > grace.jupiter > > will deliver excellent results regarding domestic life as well > provide > > all amenities and luxuries for life. the native will be in a > > commanding position and blessed with male progeny. > > that panchayat is nek (fair) in which mercury is not involved. but > one > > of the two rahu and ketu is surely present. > > venus,jupiter,saturn,sunmercury all five of them till house no. 6 > > conjoined or kayam(independent) give excellent male issues.Samudrik- > > All fingers are in ascending order. > > > > Rakesh ji my command over english is nothing compared with yours, > > kindly rectify the mistakes in translation for the benefit of other > > members of the group, if anything is missing request bhuwan ji to > > incorporate it. > > > > Regards kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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