re discussion guidelines punitpandey

[Guest guest]

nothing personal,only lal-kitab,

i apologise for my use of language, i admit i was wrong, should have

been a bit civilized. i was not suggesting that lal-kitab existed

prior to pt. joshi, i was only emphasising that the principles

embodied by pt. joshi were operating since the beginning of shrishti.

believe me relating lal-kitab to ramayana works wonders in upayas.

kindly let me explain in detail. what of holi, lal-kitab upayas are

incorporated in lohri, diwali, traditions of punjab(not drinking water

From daughter's house).allow me let's have a discussion. If members

don't agree let me remain a silent member, allow me to read the

messages, will not reply OR touch another hornest's nest. but in the

end let me have the audiity to ask " if one is proclaimed guru, he

becomes immune to shortcomings " still if members feel that i shouldn't

have questioned bhatiaji's lalkitabees punit's version. once and for

the last SORRY. BUT DIDN't I APPREICIATE MUDIT'S ANSWER.

model 1965 ji

what is the talk of threat or conspiracy to break the group, are bhai

main to isme goonga banke rahne ki prarthna kar raha hoon.

a novice person speaks in a direct tone to some senior members and ou

feel threatened about the group. had ho gaye yaar. moonh pe baat karne

wale pith me schuri nahi mara karte.

kulbir

[Guest guest]

Kulbir Singh ji, I personally feel that your idea of discussing

fundamentals and rational behind LK is definitely good and this group

I suppose is for the same purpose. Further it would be better for a

novice like me, if you were to continue with active participation in

bit moderate tone. Here the question is, If somebody is getting hurt

we can definitely avoid that by changing the tone, it does not mean

changing the thought or idea. In this way we can have a very fruitful

discussion.

Sorry, I am too small to put a comment, but at the same time I feel

that discussions upon the logic, fundamentals and rational behind LK

is required.

Manjeet.

lalkitab , " Kulbir Singh Bains "

<ceetabains> wrote:

> nothing personal,only lal-kitab,

> i apologise for my use of language, i admit i was wrong, should have

> been a bit civilized. i was not suggesting that lal-kitab existed

> prior to pt. joshi, i was only emphasising that the principles

> embodied by pt. joshi were operating since the beginning of

shrishti.

> believe me relating lal-kitab to ramayana works wonders in upayas.

> kindly let me explain in detail. what of holi, lal-kitab upayas are

> incorporated in lohri, diwali, traditions of punjab(not drinking

water

> From daughter's house).allow me let's have a discussion. If members

> don't agree let me remain a silent member, allow me to read the

> messages, will not reply OR touch another hornest's nest. but in the

> end let me have the audiity to ask " if one is proclaimed guru, he

> becomes immune to shortcomings " still if members feel that i

shouldn't

> have questioned bhatiaji's lalkitabees punit's version. once and for

> the last SORRY. BUT DIDN't I APPREICIATE MUDIT'S ANSWER.

> model 1965 ji

> what is the talk of threat or conspiracy to break the group, are

bhai

> main to isme goonga banke rahne ki prarthna kar raha hoon.

> a novice person speaks in a direct tone to some senior members and

ou

> feel threatened about the group. had ho gaye yaar. moonh pe baat

karne

> wale pith me schuri nahi mara karte.

> kulbir

[Guest guest]

Respected Gurujan

 

I am following the whole " KULBIR BAINS CONTROVERSY "

with a great interest. If on the one hand I am a firm

believer that the language in these sort of special

forums must be polite, on the other hand I must say

that if any member do not follow the principle of

using the polite language, there is no need to treat

him like a criminal, we can try to convince him/her

with the strong logics, by answering all his/her

queries, by removing all his/her doubts, by providing

him the authentic examples, and moreover by providing

him the correct answers.

 

Mr. Kubir has has not commited any crime by

eastablishing a so-called imaginary relation between

Holi and Shukra+Budh Mushtarka=Sun equation, why cant

we take it as a matter of research ?

 

Tell me how many people believed the theory of the

ancient scientists regarding the Ball type shape of

the earth ? Many of these scientists were punished and

even killed by the rulers of that time.

 

I have seen in this very forum that the recommended

remedial measure are sometime not conform to the

Lal-Kitab, but believe me they still works.

 

For example There is no refrence of Quantity of Lead

(Sikka) in the legendary Lal-kitab which we use to

immerse in the running water in Rahu in 11th house

scenario, Gurujan recommend 4-kgs and sometime 8-kgs.

Does this means they are wrong ? " NO " they are

certainly not because there is a lot of ambiguities in

that book as far as these sort of explanations are

concerned. (I have the Original Urdu copy of the

legendary Lal-Kitab with me, and I can read & write

Urdu better than Hindi or English)

 

The purpose of all what I have said is that the

experts have made certain standards in absence of

clear guidelines in the Lal-Kitab, thay have invented

so many new Karkas for various valid reasons through

their study of the subject and researchs.

 

I want to assure you I am not advocating anyone, what

I am trying to advocate is that if someone brought

about a new idea, new thought, new Karka, or a new

research he should be provided a chance to prove

himself not that he should be outrightly rejected,

discouraged, and condemned.

 

We may have the difference of opinon, but for what

these forms are for ? to discuss, to discuss and to

discuss.

 

I agree that Kulbir Singh's language was unacceptable

to many, but, what about the language of the others in

response to this matter ? Can Anybody justify that ?

 

I would like to request to all of the members to try

to understand the soul behind Mr. Kulbir Singhs

outburst. He seems to be a person of a strong

conviction although still needs some quality

education of the subject.

 

Finally, I will request all the learned members of the

forum to refrain themselve from these sort of

controversies and try to help the people who are

suffering due to one reason or another. One such

fellow Mr. Nekibur Rehman is requesting time and again

for your help but noone is seems to listening him. For

God sake Please listen him.

 

 

Yograj Prabhakar

(Patiala).

0175-5002279, 0175-3092768,98159-92768.

 

 

--- Kulbir Singh Bains <ceetabains wrote:

> nothing personal,only lal-kitab,

> i apologise for my use of language, i admit i was

> wrong, should have

> been a bit civilized. i was not suggesting that

> lal-kitab existed

> prior to pt. joshi, i was only emphasising that the

> principles

> embodied by pt. joshi were operating since the

> beginning of shrishti.

> believe me relating lal-kitab to ramayana works

> wonders in upayas.

> kindly let me explain in detail. what of holi,

> lal-kitab upayas are

> incorporated in lohri, diwali, traditions of

> punjab(not drinking water

> From daughter's house).allow me let's have a

> discussion. If members

> don't agree let me remain a silent member, allow me

> to read the

> messages, will not reply OR touch another hornest's

> nest. but in the

> end let me have the audiity to ask " if one is

> proclaimed guru, he

> becomes immune to shortcomings " still if members

> feel that i shouldn't

> have questioned bhatiaji's lalkitabees punit's

> version. once and for

> the last SORRY. BUT DIDN't I APPREICIATE MUDIT'S

> ANSWER.

> model 1965 ji

> what is the talk of threat or conspiracy to break

> the group, are bhai

> main to isme goonga banke rahne ki prarthna kar raha

> hoon.

> a novice person speaks in a direct tone to some

> senior members and ou

> feel threatened about the group. had ho gaye yaar.

> moonh pe baat karne

> wale pith me schuri nahi mara karte.

> kulbir

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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