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resp sh upadhaya ji and list memebers;

 

whether there is any correlation between the birth chart and position

of lines on palm; it is said that lalkitab is based on study of palm

as well;particularly for rectification of charts or in case the birth

details are not available then horoscope can be erected by studying

the palm and presence of various sign related to planets on palm.

about adecade back i happen to meet a learned person in delhi who

used to study palm and then prescribe lalkitab remedies;very

effectively.i find it strange that since inception of list;the

subject ie that is use of palmistry or samudric shastra has not been

mentioned leave aside discussion? kindly take it in positive way;and

if there is any substance in above message why not come out with it.

thanks

with regards.

dr gopal sharma.

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Respected Dr. Sharma

It is realy a fact that lalkitab is based upon study of the palm

but after perfection only.In the very begining of lalkitab is

written , " is kitab main samudrik vdya ki varn mala mukammal tour per

dene ki koshish ki gai hai. kundli ka banana aur uski durusti ka

janchna tamaam vidya ko janne ke baad shuru karain pehle maujoodaa

vakt main jyotish ki banai kundli se tajurbaa hasil karain. "

according to this clears that this book is based upon samudrik

shastra and palmistry. You will be surprized that there is included

vastu shastra also.System of " makaan kundli " also has given in

lalkitab.Which shows that there was something to be written about

vastu of lalkitab.Alas! nobody knows what was written material after

this published last addition.I think some material is more which is

now decaying in the junk of anywhere.

With regards

lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " gopshaz " <gopshaz> wrote:

> resp sh upadhaya ji and list memebers;

>

> whether there is any correlation between the birth chart and

position

> of lines on palm; it is said that lalkitab is based on study of palm

> as well;particularly for rectification of charts or in case the

birth

> details are not available then horoscope can be erected by studying

> the palm and presence of various sign related to planets on palm.

> about adecade back i happen to meet a learned person in delhi who

> used to study palm and then prescribe lalkitab remedies;very

> effectively.i find it strange that since inception of list;the

> subject ie that is use of palmistry or samudric shastra has not

been

> mentioned leave aside discussion? kindly take it in positive

way;and

> if there is any substance in above message why not come out with it.

> thanks

> with regards.

> dr gopal sharma.

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dear lalkitabee;

it is very strange that nobody is coming out with a new printed

version /edition of complete original lalkitab so that the things may

become crystal clear.also the experts;list members are discussing

cases and offering remedies but not much effort is being done to

clarify the principles one by one.no malice is intended pl.

thanks

dr.gopalsharma.

 

 

lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote:

> Respected Dr. Sharma

> It is realy a fact that lalkitab is based upon study of the

palm

> but after perfection only.In the very begining of lalkitab is

> written , " is kitab main samudrik vdya ki varn mala mukammal tour

per

> dene ki koshish ki gai hai. kundli ka banana aur uski durusti ka

> janchna tamaam vidya ko janne ke baad shuru karain pehle maujoodaa

> vakt main jyotish ki banai kundli se tajurbaa hasil karain. "

> according to this clears that this book is based upon samudrik

> shastra and palmistry. You will be surprized that there is

included

> vastu shastra also.System of " makaan kundli " also has given in

> lalkitab.Which shows that there was something to be written about

> vastu of lalkitab.Alas! nobody knows what was written material

after

> this published last addition.I think some material is more which is

> now decaying in the junk of anywhere.

> With regards

> lalkitabee

>

> lalkitab , " gopshaz " <gopshaz> wrote:

> > resp sh upadhaya ji and list memebers;

> >

> > whether there is any correlation between the birth chart and

> position

> > of lines on palm; it is said that lalkitab is based on study of

palm

> > as well;particularly for rectification of charts or in case the

> birth

> > details are not available then horoscope can be erected by

studying

> > the palm and presence of various sign related to planets on palm.

> > about adecade back i happen to meet a learned person in delhi

who

> > used to study palm and then prescribe lalkitab remedies;very

> > effectively.i find it strange that since inception of list;the

> > subject ie that is use of palmistry or samudric shastra has not

> been

> > mentioned leave aside discussion? kindly take it in positive

> way;and

> > if there is any substance in above message why not come out with

it.

> > thanks

> > with regards.

> > dr gopal sharma.

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Respected Dr. Gopal ji

According to your querry ,Foundation of this group was to clear all

those concepts which you expressed.I become the member of this group

with this spirit also. But after sometime i felt that group is going

indirectionally. There remained problems and remedies only.

Discussion of lalkitab was gone away.I tried to do this with my views

but i think there was language problem between me and forum. Because

I can express easily myself in sanskrit or hindi beside english. So i

became nuteral. Group was going in full swing.Remedies were written

one by one, But where was discussion ? Nobody answered that what is

astrology ? How can we feel that astrology works as a

superscience.Lalkitab has a system of concepts. Some concepts are

clear but some are hidden in keywords.So there should be the motive

to clear keywords and hidden matter of lalkitab. Our motive must be

to pull out those concepts which are placed in Toranto at Pt.

Somduttji' home in the handwritting of Pt. Roopchand Ji. Most of our

members are residing abroad. If they compell Mr. Somdutt ji to

publish other material which is belonged to lalkitab, then i think

our forum will be directional.But it can be possible by great

discussion of lalkitab's FARMAANS.Much research is nescessary in this

field.Logics must be clear about prediction and remedies. We should

join this forum as a scholar of lalkitab.Discuss your problems but

with discussions of siddhants (FARMAANS) of lalkitab.Astrolgers of

this group must argue to other astrologers without malice. They must

perform decoding of FARMAANS according to their selfstudy and

practice.When a group of lalkitabers will arise with this

motive ,then i think Mr. Somdutt will come as a leader to guide this

group with the written material of Pt. Roopchand JI.

Thanks

With regards

Lalkitabee

 

 

lalkitab , " gopshaz " <gopshaz> wrote:

> dear lalkitabee;

> it is very strange that nobody is coming out with a new printed

> version /edition of complete original lalkitab so that the things

may

> become crystal clear.also the experts;list members are discussing

> cases and offering remedies but not much effort is being done to

> clarify the principles one by one.no malice is intended pl.

> thanks

> dr.gopalsharma.

>

>

> lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee>

wrote:

> > Respected Dr. Sharma

> > It is realy a fact that lalkitab is based upon study of the

> palm

> > but after perfection only.In the very begining of lalkitab is

> > written , " is kitab main samudrik vdya ki varn mala mukammal tour

> per

> > dene ki koshish ki gai hai. kundli ka banana aur uski durusti ka

> > janchna tamaam vidya ko janne ke baad shuru karain pehle

maujoodaa

> > vakt main jyotish ki banai kundli se tajurbaa hasil karain. "

> > according to this clears that this book is based upon

samudrik

> > shastra and palmistry. You will be surprized that there is

> included

> > vastu shastra also.System of " makaan kundli " also has given in

> > lalkitab.Which shows that there was something to be written about

> > vastu of lalkitab.Alas! nobody knows what was written material

> after

> > this published last addition.I think some material is more which

is

> > now decaying in the junk of anywhere.

> > With regards

> > lalkitabee

> >

> > lalkitab , " gopshaz " <gopshaz> wrote:

> > > resp sh upadhaya ji and list memebers;

> > >

> > > whether there is any correlation between the birth chart and

> > position

> > > of lines on palm; it is said that lalkitab is based on study of

> palm

> > > as well;particularly for rectification of charts or in case the

> > birth

> > > details are not available then horoscope can be erected by

> studying

> > > the palm and presence of various sign related to planets on

palm.

> > > about adecade back i happen to meet a learned person in delhi

> who

> > > used to study palm and then prescribe lalkitab remedies;very

> > > effectively.i find it strange that since inception of list;the

> > > subject ie that is use of palmistry or samudric shastra has not

> > been

> > > mentioned leave aside discussion? kindly take it in positive

> > way;and

> > > if there is any substance in above message why not come out

with

> it.

> > > thanks

> > > with regards.

> > > dr gopal sharma.

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Respected Pandey Jee

 

I agree with you. That is how we will learn

 

with respect

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <pandeypunit>

wrote:

>

> Lalkitabee ji, Gopal ji and other lalkitabists,

>

>

>

> The objective to form this group was learning Lal Kitab priciples.

But you are right that group seems to be losing directions. This

group has become just a place to provide remedies. If I oppose this

thing, I'll be blamed that I am agaist helping humanity :-). If all

Lalkitabists of this group are interested, I can force discussion

only on the basis of Lal Kitab farmaans. But for that I need

everyone's support. We can discuss individual's horoscope as case

studies but with mentioning the principles of Lal Kitab behind that.

>

>

>

> I REQUEST ALL LAL KITAB ASTROLOGERS TO MENTION LAL KITAB PRICIPLES

BEHIND JUDGING THE HOROSCOPE AND PROVIDING REMEDIES.

>

>

>

> Please let me know your opinion on this.

>

>

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

>

> Punit Pandey

>

>

> lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote:

> Respected Dr. Gopal ji

> According to your querry ,Foundation of this group was to clear

all

> those concepts which you expressed.I become the member of this

group

> with this spirit also. But after sometime i felt that group is

going

> indirectionally. There remained problems and remedies only.

> Discussion of lalkitab was gone away.I tried to do this with my

views

> but i think there was language problem between me and forum.

Because

> I can express easily myself in sanskrit or hindi beside english. So

i

> became nuteral. Group was going in full swing.Remedies were written

> one by one, But where was discussion ? Nobody answered that what is

> astrology ? How can we feel that astrology works as a

> superscience.Lalkitab has a system of concepts. Some concepts are

> clear but some are hidden in keywords.So there should be the motive

> to clear keywords and hidden matter of lalkitab. Our motive must be

> to pull out those concepts which are placed in Toranto at Pt.

> Somduttji' home in the handwritting of Pt. Roopchand Ji. Most of

our

> members are residing abroad. If they compell Mr. Somdutt ji to

> publish other material which is belonged to lalkitab, then i think

> our forum will be directional.But it can be possible by great

> discussion of lalkitab's FARMAANS.Much research is nescessary in

this

> field.Logics must be clear about prediction and remedies. We should

> join this forum as a scholar of lalkitab.Discuss your problems but

> with discussions of siddhants (FARMAANS) of lalkitab.Astrolgers of

> this group must argue to other astrologers without malice. They

must

> perform decoding of FARMAANS according to their selfstudy and

> practice.When a group of lalkitabers will arise with this

> motive ,then i think Mr. Somdutt will come as a leader to guide

this

> group with the written material of Pt. Roopchand JI.

> Thanks

> With regards

> Lalkitabee

>

>

> lalkitab , " gopshaz " <gopshaz> wrote:

> > dear lalkitabee;

> > it is very strange that nobody is coming out with a new printed

> > version /edition of complete original lalkitab so that the things

> may

> > become crystal clear.also the experts;list members are discussing

> > cases and offering remedies but not much effort is being done to

> > clarify the principles one by one.no malice is intended pl.

> > thanks

> > dr.gopalsharma.

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee>

> wrote:

> > > Respected Dr. Sharma

> > > It is realy a fact that lalkitab is based upon study of the

> > palm

> > > but after perfection only.In the very begining of lalkitab is

> > > written , " is kitab main samudrik vdya ki varn mala mukammal

tour

> > per

> > > dene ki koshish ki gai hai. kundli ka banana aur uski durusti

ka

> > > janchna tamaam vidya ko janne ke baad shuru karain pehle

> maujoodaa

> > > vakt main jyotish ki banai kundli se tajurbaa hasil karain. "

> > > according to this clears that this book is based upon

> samudrik

> > > shastra and palmistry. You will be surprized that there is

> > included

> > > vastu shastra also.System of " makaan kundli " also has given in

> > > lalkitab.Which shows that there was something to be written

about

> > > vastu of lalkitab.Alas! nobody knows what was written material

> > after

> > > this published last addition.I think some material is more

which

> is

> > > now decaying in the junk of anywhere.

> > > With regards

> > > lalkitabee

> > >

> > > lalkitab , " gopshaz " <gopshaz> wrote:

> > > > resp sh upadhaya ji and list memebers;

> > > >

> > > > whether there is any correlation between the birth chart and

> > > position

> > > > of lines on palm; it is said that lalkitab is based on study

of

> > palm

> > > > as well;particularly for rectification of charts or in case

the

> > > birth

> > > > details are not available then horoscope can be erected by

> > studying

> > > > the palm and presence of various sign related to planets on

> palm.

> > > > about adecade back i happen to meet a learned person in

delhi

> > who

> > > > used to study palm and then prescribe lalkitab remedies;very

> > > > effectively.i find it strange that since inception of

list;the

> > > > subject ie that is use of palmistry or samudric shastra has

not

> > > been

> > > > mentioned leave aside discussion? kindly take it in positive

> > > way;and

> > > > if there is any substance in above message why not come out

> with

> > it.

> > > > thanks

> > > > with regards.

> > > > dr gopal sharma.

>

>

>

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Dear Lalkitabee and Dr Gopa ji

 

Namastea to both of you,

 

I am learning vedic astrology and know very little

about Lalkitab. Can u suggest me which is best book on

this subject???

Can u tell me how to reduce the ill effects of Mars?

Every planet do good and bad for all. Whe we take

remedy for one thing , I believe other thing lost.

Under this condition, how one can reduce the ill

effect. This may cause unbalance the equlibrium of

nature.

For example, if Mars is neech, tah weather we shoudl

punja on tuesday or should go temple at all on

tuesday.

Manoj../

 

 

regards,

Manoj

--- lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote:

> Respected Dr. Sharma

> It is realy a fact that lalkitab is based upon

> study of the palm

> but after perfection only.In the very begining of

> lalkitab is

> written , " is kitab main samudrik vdya ki varn mala

> mukammal tour per

> dene ki koshish ki gai hai. kundli ka banana aur

> uski durusti ka

> janchna tamaam vidya ko janne ke baad shuru karain

> pehle maujoodaa

> vakt main jyotish ki banai kundli se tajurbaa hasil

> karain. "

> according to this clears that this book is based

> upon samudrik

> shastra and palmistry. You will be surprized that

> there is included

> vastu shastra also.System of " makaan kundli " also

> has given in

> lalkitab.Which shows that there was something to be

> written about

> vastu of lalkitab.Alas! nobody knows what was

> written material after

> this published last addition.I think some material

> is more which is

> now decaying in the junk of anywhere.

> With regards

>

> lalkitabee

>

> lalkitab , " gopshaz "

> <gopshaz> wrote:

> > resp sh upadhaya ji and list memebers;

> >

> > whether there is any correlation between the birth

> chart and

> position

> > of lines on palm; it is said that lalkitab is

> based on study of palm

> > as well;particularly for rectification of charts

> or in case the

> birth

> > details are not available then horoscope can be

> erected by studying

> > the palm and presence of various sign related to

> planets on palm.

> > about adecade back i happen to meet a learned

> person in delhi who

> > used to study palm and then prescribe lalkitab

> remedies;very

> > effectively.i find it strange that since inception

> of list;the

> > subject ie that is use of palmistry or samudric

> shastra has not

> been

> > mentioned leave aside discussion? kindly take it

> in positive

> way;and

> > if there is any substance in above message why not

> come out with it.

> > thanks

> > with

> regards.

> > dr gopal

> sharma.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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