Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Dear Siddharth, The Moon in the 8th house has been described as " maut ke andhere kamare mein band " ; " shamshan ki aag mein jhulasa " . These phrases very aptly describe the predicament through a powerful image. Now imagine a luminous body like Moon trapped in the darkness, scorched by the fire of death. Since the Moon represents our feelings ,emotions , imagination etc , it will be like a whithered flower ... " vikal " restless. In your case it is in the 8th house of the janma kundali , therefore the upaya has to be for the whole life. And the upaya is : ' Keep a little water at home in a bottle , from a well or a handpump situated inside either a cremation ground or a burial place. The water should not be from a municipal tap , it should be drawn from under the ground. You have to keep this water all your life. When ever the water dries up , go get some more' sincerely, upadhyay lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " <jyotish_mail> wrote: > Dear Upadhyay Jee, > > Thanks for all the help. > > If you get some time me about how the moon can be strenghtened > positively and which upaya given by you is for the same. > > Yours Sincerely > Siddharth > > lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > Dear Siddharth ji, > > > > You have to offer raw rice , and not cooked . Just offer a > handful . > > You can leave the rice there infront of the idol. > > > > Regarding Jupiter and Rahu , Jupiter here is considered as " > saadhu > > jo apnee kutia mein baitha ho " which could mean that he might > have > > the peace but not the luxuries. There could be struggles in life > till > > the age of 34. It might effect the father adversely . Since it is > in > > the six-eight relationship with saturn , it will not be good for > > profession or the job.Rahu here is not considered bad. It is the > moon > > in the 8th which could be a matter of concern . Thats what might > get > > you interested in occult , would have troubled your mother at the > > time of your birth and you might have been quite sickly till the > age > > of 6. In the first place you may not have a Tai { father's elder > > brother's wife } , if you have one , she will always be a source > of > > worry for you. > > > > sincerely, > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > <jyotish_mail> > > wrote: > > > Dear Upadyay Jee, > > > > > > Thanks for taking out time to go through my horsocope. > > > > > > I have just two question, the rice which is to be given is it to > be > > > cooked or raw, and whom is the rice to be given to the priest or > > the > > > needy, poor or has just to be kept in the temple in front of the > > > lord. > > > > > > Could you please enlighten me on Rahu and Jupiter in one one > house > > > and that too the 6th house. > > > > > > Yours Sincerely > > > Siddharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > > > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > > Dear Siddharth ji, > > > > > > > > I have gone through your horoscope and I am suggesting a few > > upaya > > > > which are to be done during the day time and do one upaya at a > > > time. > > > > Take up the next upaya only when the previous one is completed. > > > > > > > > upaya : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Throw 10 neebu { should be yellow } in a river on a > Sunday > > > > morning. > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Keep in your room a little saunf in a cotton cloth > thaili. > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Offer at a temple a handful of rice for six days > regularly. > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] Feed the birds soaked sabut moong for 43 days. The sabut > > > moong > > > > to be soaked in water the evening before. > > > > > > > > I hope these upaya will help you. > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > > > <jyotish_mail> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Upadyay Jee, > > > > > > > > > > What upaya do you recommed me for having a more stable life > > (not > > > > > shifting places), having peace of mind and lead better life. > > > > > > > > > > DOB: 12 Dec 1972 > > > > > Dehradun > > > > > Time of Birth: 9:45 pm. > > > > > > > > > > What is your say when the Rahu and Jupiter together in the > 6th > > > house > > > > > and saturn in the 11st house and moon in the 8th house( > which > > > also > > > > > happens to be the lord of the lagna. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry to be sending to you so many mails but I really > want > > > to > > > > > lead a more stable and peaceful life. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely Yours > > > > > Siddharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > > > > > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Siddharth ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] The upaya mentions the wollen blanket , therefore I > > > don't > > > > > think > > > > > > I can change it to a cotton bed sheet. You can gift it at > > > temples > > > > > in > > > > > > the hills where it stays cold through out. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Both the upaya suggested for savings should be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] I am afraid I haven't come across any upaya to > increase > > > > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > > > > > <jyotish_mail> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Upadyay Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the upaya's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wanted to know some more details, Since its summer would > it > > > be > > > > > fine > > > > > > > to give cotton bed sheet intead of a blanket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have gone through some mails regarding 'Barket'. HAve > > both > > > > the > > > > > > > upaya to be done together or even one is sufficient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is there any upaya for help improving knowledge and > studies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours Sincerely > > > > > > > Siddharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > > > > > > > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Siddharth ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes , her son can also do these upaya , but it would > be > > > still > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > if she could do them herself. As regards your > dilemma , I > > > > > think > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > one from traditional astrology would help you better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > > > > > > > <jyotish_mail> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Upadhyay Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since my mother-in-law cannot walk out of the house, > > can > > > > her > > > > > > son > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > it on her behalf. I will still ask her son to try > and > > > help > > > > > her > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > much as feasible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For myself, would be possible to tell whether > further > > > > > studies > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > be benefial or getting a new job. Rather could help > me > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > technical work or management work suits me. I am > more > > > > > concerned > > > > > > > > > becuase this education requires 4 years. I have > already > > > > > > > completed > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > eng and worked for many years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours Sincerely > > > > > > > > > Siddharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > > > > > > > > > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddharth ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the absence of the birth details , I don't > think I > > > can > > > > > do > > > > > > > > much. > > > > > > > > > > However I am suggesting two upaya for her and lets > > see > > > if > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > any difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] She must gift at a temple a blanket of two > > > > colours , > > > > > > > black > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > white. This she should do twice every year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Either have an all black dog for a pet in > the > > > house > > > > > or > > > > > > > feed > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > dogs once a week early in the morning on sundays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As regards you , it has to be your decision > whether > > to > > > > > > > continue > > > > > > > > > > higher studies or to take up a job. I can hardly > help > > > you > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Vivek " > > > <sonivivek@h...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Upadhyay Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure of Date of births if my mother in > > law, > > > > the > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > problem she is having in her her bones are > weaking > > > and > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > muscles > > > > > > > > > > > she is not not able to walk prperly. She falls > down > > > in > > > > > th > > > > > > > > middle > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > her walk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have specific question for myself. I have left > my > > > job > > > > > on > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > own > > > > > > > > > > > accord to pursue Higher education. Now I am > > inclined > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > Job > > > > > > > > > > > again or pursue education now since I am in two > > > modes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My DOB is 12-Dec-1972 > > > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Dehradun > > > > > > > > > > > Time of birth: 9:45 p.m. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely Your > > > > > > > > > > > Siddharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > > > > > > > > > > > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddharth ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Yes , any body can ask for remedies to > > > specific > > > > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > > But I > > > > > > > > > > > > would advise that before asking for remedies > you > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > develop > > > > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Lal Kitab remedies and a commitment to > do > > > the > > > > > > upaya > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Remedies should not be asked just for the > hack > > of > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] I would further advise that instead of > > > asking > > > > > > > remedies > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > whole family at one go , you should ask for > one > > or > > > > two > > > > > > > > > persons. > > > > > > > > > > Do > > > > > > > > > > > > the upaya , see the results , and if you think > it > > > has > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > good , then only ask for the rest of the > members. > > > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > way > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > establishing faith in the system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Lal Kitab remedies do not promise > immediate > > > > > > results, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > > > > > they are for those who have faith in them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] I am not aware of any schools or > colleges > > > which > > > > > > > teach > > > > > > > > > Lal > > > > > > > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > > > > > system and award degrees or diplomas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] Yes , like the Vedic astrology planets > > could > > > be > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > malefic > > > > > > > > > > > > and benefic. The treatment might differ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] Sure , like any feild of knowledge , the > > > > > > > understanding > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > Lal > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitab too is increasing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 7 ] Lal Kitab remedies , by and large , are > of > > > > > secular > > > > > > > > > nature , > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > not religion specific. Since Mantra are > specific > > > to > > > > > Hindu > > > > > > > > > culture > > > > > > > > > > > > they are not normally used. In this way , the > Lal > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > > remedies > > > > > > > > > > > > could be done by any body without qualms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 8 ] Yes great masters of this system can > give > > > > > remedies > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope. But I can't do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > > > > > > > > > > > <jyotish_mail> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Upadhyay Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its nice to see you giving so much time to > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can everybody ask you for help? I plan to > ask > > > you > > > > > for > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > of people in my family. Will it be alright > for > > > you. > > > > > I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > ask > > > > > > > > > > > > > remedies for my inlaws who have cronic > illness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some more questions, hope you keep > > > getting > > > > > time > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > anser > > > > > > > > > > > > > queries from all of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Are Lal Kitab remedies for immediate > results > > > for > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > pain > > > > > > > > > > > > > and having bad times. Do lal Kitab remedies > > > reveal > > > > > to > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > have faith in the almighty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Do lal Kitab remedies give relief in Bad > > > times > > > > so > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > > > > could perform him normal " Parishram " and get > > > back > > > > to > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > > or are they more than that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. How does somebody get a padditi of Lal > > Kitab. > > > > Are > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > schools and examination for the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Are malefics and benefics part of Lal > Kitab > > > > > > > Terminolgy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So do we pacify the melifics and do we > also > > > > > > > strengthen > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > benifics by doing upayas, because I have > just > > > heard > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > pacifying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Reading some of the mails in this group. > It > > > > seems > > > > > > Lal > > > > > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > > > > > looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > in various aspects of life. Does this mean > it > > > > > growing > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > experince. Are some people adding info to it > > > with > > > > > > > changing > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > styles and culture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. In South India, 'Mantra " are recited for > the > > > > > same. > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > Lal > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitab > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever mentions Mantras for some upapayas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. Can Lal Kitab remedies be given wihout > > having > > > > > time > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth but by just describing the > circumstance > > > and > > > > > > > > > explaination > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem in detail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope my question are not a burden and > might > > > help > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > > > > help of Lal Kitab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely Yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > Siddharth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > lalkitab , " upadhyay_iitd " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Siddharth ji , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] I donot know what the nature of the > > > remedy > > > > > is , > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remedies to be done throughout the life > may > > > not > > > > > have > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > day. May be once in a week or so, and that > > > should > > > > > not > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult > > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] If for some unavoidable > circumstances > > > the > > > > > > person > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do the upaya himself , any one of his > blood > > > > > relations > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his behalf with a sankalp that he is doing > > > them > > > > > for > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > person for this purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Lal Kitab is a paddhati , like other > > > > > paddhati's > > > > > > > > > drawing > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the traditional vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] All precautions should be taken > before > > > > > gifting > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > item > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reaches the hands of those intended. > However > > > if > > > > > the > > > > > > > gift > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > misused > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't be held responsible for it. > > > > Your 'bhaav' > > > > > to > > > > > > > > gift > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upadhyay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > lalkitab , " jyotish_mail " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jyotish_mail> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Upadhyay Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been practising remedies similar > to > > > lal > > > > > > kitab > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > > > years > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as told by my teachers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Initially there is a lot of enthusiasm > and > > > then > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to follow them regulary due to work load > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsibilies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask you a few question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Some of these remedies to be > performed > > > > > > > throughtout > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time. Like giving water to peepal Tree. > > > Feeding > > > > > > > stray > > > > > > > > > dogs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In case the person goes out of India > and > > > he > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > > > > perform > > > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rituals then what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. How much is Lal Kitab uses Astrology > as > > a > > > > > base. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Some remedies which require donation > > > various > > > > > > > items. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its not very clear how these things > need > > > to > > > > be > > > > > > > > donated > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are not thrown off are get utilized. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Siddharth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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