Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Dear Mr. Rajinder Bhatia, Upadyay ji, Tripathi ji and all other members, I have a problem that I need some help with. Please bear with me as this could be quite a long e-mail, given the situation. It is my belief (not based on any analysis but on various circumstances & events, which I believ are equally important as per the lal kitab) that my family suffers from 'Pitri Rin' in the sense that I believe that if a son is born in the family the father of this child will pass away before that child is 16 years old. The reasons that i give are for this are as follows : 1. My husband was approximately 12 years old when his father died. He died of TB. 2. My husband passed away when my son was 14 years old. He himself was 56 then and had cancer. 3. My husbands brother never married, has no children and is today 78 years old. 4. All of the above, my husband, my father-in law, my brother-in-law and my son have not completed their graduation. I understand that Pitri Rin cannot be verified till the dates of births of the entire clan are available but I am extremely concerned regarding my son as my daughter-in-law is pregnant. Could anyone please tell me if these fears are unfounded or could they have some substance and if so, is there any upaya ?? I give below my son's details : Date of Birth : 11 October 1971 Place of Birth : New Delhi Time of Birth : 10:13 am I await your early replies to my query. Thank you all very much kkdelhi2003 Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Dear KK, Yes, this is the horoscope which fulfills all the three conditions of 'Pitri rin'. Once it is certain beyond doubt that there is 'Pitra rin dosh' in the kundali , I would like to ask a few groups of questions to find out which planets are involved. One planet is already a suspect , because you have already mentioned its menifestation in your write up. Could you please answer ? [ 1 ] Has some one in the family ever cut a peepal tree ? has some one ever demolished a place of worship or mazaar? Has education been discontinued for some in the family?* {* this you have already indicated in your write up} [2 ] Was there ever a well , a river , or a nala .... meaning a source of water where any family member had , in the past ,been dumping rubbish , or had been using that source of water as a rubbish pan ? [ 3 ] Has there been any instance where you think the daughter or sister of the family had been harassed or tortured? Has there been any case where a family member might have exchanged babies at birth? [ 4 ] Has any body in the family ever grabbed some body else's house without paying him full money ? has any body constructed a house on the land of some one who doesn't have issue { be aulad }? has any body in the family constructed a house by either filling the well or just over it ? Has any body in the family constructed a house over a thorough fare? [ 5 ] Has any body ever ditched or betrayed a family with the result that they got destroyed ? Has there been any house in the family where the drain { naali } was from under the thresh-hold { chaukhat } of the main entrance gate ? Has there been a house in the family where on the south of it were either a grave yard , or a bhatti of a halwai ? When I am talking of the family it means not only recent times, but may be a generation or two earlier. Waiting for your answers. sincerely, upadhyay lalkitab , k k <kkdelhi2003> wrote: > Dear Mr. Rajinder Bhatia, Upadyay ji, Tripathi ji and all other members, > > I have a problem that I need some help with. Please bear with me as this could be quite a long e-mail, given the situation. > > It is my belief (not based on any analysis but on various circumstances & events, which I believ are equally important as per the lal kitab) that my family suffers from 'Pitri Rin' in the sense that I believe that if a son is born in the family the father of this child will pass away before that child is 16 years old. The reasons that i give are for this are as follows : > > 1. My husband was approximately 12 years old when his father died. He died of TB. > > 2. My husband passed away when my son was 14 years old. He himself was 56 then and had cancer. > > 3. My husbands brother never married, has no children and is today 78 years old. > > 4. All of the above, my husband, my father-in law, my brother-in- law and my son have not completed their graduation. > > I understand that Pitri Rin cannot be verified till the dates of births of the entire clan are available but I am extremely concerned regarding my son as my daughter-in-law is pregnant. > > > > Could anyone please tell me if these fears are unfounded or could they have some substance and if so, is there any upaya ?? I give below my son's details : > > Date of Birth : 11 October 1971 > Place of Birth : New Delhi > Time of Birth : 10:13 am > > I await your early replies to my query. > > Thank you all very much > > kkdelhi2003 > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Dear Upadhyay ji Thank you very much for your email. With respect to your questions, as I have already stated, my husbands parents had died when he was quite young and being a victim of partition as well, there was not much that was known about their life back then. Also, he was estranged from his relatives when we got married and contact with his side of the family was at best negligible. During recent times however, none of these things have taken place. What I am extremely concerned with, as mentioned in my previous mail, is the effect on my son if his wife has a male child. Also, I need to mention that I also have a daughter, who was above 21 (well above 16) when my husband passed away and had also completed her graduation. So evidently this does not apply to the girls in the family, as per the Lal Kitab, they arent even considered aulad. I await your reply Thank you very much kkdelhi2003 Suresh Upadhyay <upadhyay_iitd wrote: Dear KK,Yes, this is the horoscope which fulfills all the three conditions of 'Pitri rin'. Once it is certain beyond doubt that there is 'Pitra rin dosh' in the kundali , I would like to ask a few groups of questions to find out which planets are involved. One planet is already a suspect , because you have already mentioned its menifestation in your write up.Could you please answer ?[ 1 ] Has some one in the family ever cut a peepal tree ? has some one ever demolished a place of worship or mazaar? Has education been discontinued for some in the family?* {* this you have already indicated in your write up}[2 ] Was there ever a well , a river , or a nala .... meaning a source of water where any family member had , in the past ,been dumping rubbish , or had been using that source of water as a rubbish pan ?[ 3 ] Has there been any instance where you think the daughter or sister of the family had been harassed or tortured? Has there been any case where a family member might have exchanged babies at birth?[ 4 ] Has any body in the family ever grabbed some body else's house without paying him full money ? has any body constructed a house on the land of some one who doesn't have issue { be aulad }? has any body in the family constructed a house by either filling the well or just over it ? Has any body in the family constructed a house over a thorough fare?[ 5 ] Has any body ever ditched or betrayed a family with the result that they got destroyed ? Has there been any house in the family where the drain { naali } was from under the thresh-hold { chaukhat } of the main entrance gate ? Has there been a house in the family where on the south of it were either a grave yard , or a bhatti of a halwai ?When I am talking of the family it means not only recent times, but may be a generation or two earlier.Waiting for your answers.sincerely,upadhyaylalkitab , k k <kkdelhi2003> wrote:> Dear Mr. Rajinder Bhatia, Upadyay ji, Tripathi ji and all other members,> > I have a problem that I need some help with. Please bear with me as this could be quite a long e-mail, given the situation.> > It is my belief (not based on any analysis but on various circumstances & events, which I believ are equally important as per the lal kitab) that my family suffers from 'Pitri Rin' in the sense that I believe that if a son is born in the family the father of this child will pass away before that child is 16 years old. The reasons that i give are for this are as follows :> > 1. My husband was approximately 12 years old when his father died. He died of TB.> > 2. My husband passed away when my son was 14 years old. He himself was 56 then and had cancer.> > 3. My husbands brother never married, has no children and is today 78 years old.> > 4. All of the above, my husband, my father-in law, my brother-in-law and my son have not completed their graduation.> > I understand that Pitri Rin cannot be verified till the dates of births of the entire clan are available but I am extremely concerned regarding my son as my daughter-in-law is pregnant.> > > > Could anyone please tell me if these fears are unfounded or could they have some substance and if so, is there any upaya ?? I give below my son's details :> > Date of Birth : 11 October 1971> Place of Birth : New Delhi> Time of Birth : 10:13 am> > I await your early replies to my query.> > Thank you all very much> > kkdelhi2003> > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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