Attn : shri PK Tripathi ji.. rationale of upaya

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dear Tripathi ji ,

Yes you are right that in the vedic system offering a thing in the

temple destroys the ill effects of the planet and at the same time

energises its good effects. And also that you could offer things

associated with all the planets in the Kundali . I am afraid this is

not possible according to the Lal Kitab.

Lal Kitab makes further distinction into this process, which sounds

very scientific . Not every planet of the kundali can be transferred

to the dharma sthan (Lal Kitab considers the 2nd house as the dharm

sthan ) ie. not every thing can be given to the temple . A planet ,

meaning things associated with it , can be transferred only if there

is a path to the 2nd house ie the second house must be 'drashta'

[within sight]. The sight system is similar to that of vedic system .

7th house 100%, 5th & 9th 50% etc with minor differences we could

talk later.

There are two stages involved in it. [ one ] To get rid of the bad

effects and also to appease the planet offer the thing in the temple.

[ two ]But if you need to energise the good effects of the planet as

well then bring back home half of what you had offered . This half

that you brought back home is thus considered as the part blessed by

the deity which you establish at home or on the person as the case

may be .

According to the lal Kitab this is one of the two methods of '

grah ki taseer badalna'(changing the nature of the planet)

 

thanks for raising the issue

 

with regards,

 

upadhyay

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Dear Mr Upadhyaya,

 

Well,then, as per LK,if we want to energise the

positive energy ofthe planet, then we have to get back

home half of the respective materials, offered in the

temple andshould we keep it, at respective planet

dominated places or what?

 

Secondly, please clarify, how do you visualise logic

especially when u deal with LK remidies, because

herealso material associated with the planet as per LK

is quite different with the material associated with

planet as per vedic astrology.

 

Thanks for detailing the fact.

 

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy

--- upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd wrote:

> dear Tripathi ji ,

> Yes you are right that in the vedic system

> offering a thing in the

> temple destroys the ill effects of the planet and at

> the same time

> energises its good effects. And also that you could

> offer things

> associated with all the planets in the Kundali . I

> am afraid this is

> not possible according to the Lal Kitab.

> Lal Kitab makes further distinction into this

> process, which sounds

> very scientific . Not every planet of the kundali

> can be transferred

> to the dharma sthan (Lal Kitab considers the 2nd

> house as the dharm

> sthan ) ie. not every thing can be given to the

> temple . A planet ,

> meaning things associated with it , can be

> transferred only if there

> is a path to the 2nd house ie the second house must

> be 'drashta'

> [within sight]. The sight system is similar to that

> of vedic system .

> 7th house 100%, 5th & 9th 50% etc with minor

> differences we could

> talk later.

> There are two stages involved in it. [ one ] To get

> rid of the bad

> effects and also to appease the planet offer the

> thing in the temple.

> [ two ]But if you need to energise the good effects

> of the planet as

> well then bring back home half of what you had

> offered . This half

> that you brought back home is thus considered as the

> part blessed by

> the deity which you establish at home or on the

> person as the case

> may be .

> According to the lal Kitab this is one of the two

> methods of '

> grah ki taseer badalna'(changing the nature of the

> planet)

>

> thanks for raising the issue

>

> with regards,

>

> upadhyay

>

>

 

 

 

 

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lalkitab , " p.k. tripathy "

<pktripathy2003> wrote:

> Dear Mr Upadhyaya,

>

> Well,then, as per LK,if we want to energise the

> positive energy ofthe planet, then we have to get back

> home half of the respective materials, offered in the

> temple andshould we keep it, at respective planet

> dominated places or what?

>

[ I am not familiar with vastu shashtra therefore

I can't say much about it , but logically speaking

yes, it will be more beneficial if we could

establish the karak object at a place associated

with that planet. Lal Kitab ofcourse doesn't

put any such condition in most cases. however I have

read about a few upayas where there are instructions

to place it at the door.. or in the tijori [ safe where

money is kept] or near the source of water etc , but

it is in a few case only ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Secondly, please clarify, how do you visualise logic

> especially when u deal with LK remidies, because

> herealso material associated with the planet as per LK

> is quite different with the material associated with

> planet as per vedic astrology.

 

[ even in the vedic astrolgy the karkatwa of

planets over objects has been defined by

the learned Rishis and we accept it as a

matter of faith. Lal Kitab also accepts

the vedic karak objects and has added a few

more based on the traditions prevelant in

the areas where Lal Kitab system took shape

over centuries , and I accept them again as

a matter of faith. Therefore the material

used is neither different nor contradictory,

it is vedic along with materials accepted

by the collective folk wisdom of the area ]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> Thanks for detailing the fact.

>

> With best wishes,

> P K Tripathy

> --- upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote:

> > dear Tripathi ji ,

> > Yes you are right that in the vedic system

> > offering a thing in the

> > temple destroys the ill effects of the planet and at

> > the same time

> > energises its good effects. And also that you could

> > offer things

> > associated with all the planets in the Kundali . I

> > am afraid this is

> > not possible according to the Lal Kitab.

> > Lal Kitab makes further distinction into this

> > process, which sounds

> > very scientific . Not every planet of the kundali

> > can be transferred

> > to the dharma sthan (Lal Kitab considers the 2nd

> > house as the dharm

> > sthan ) ie. not every thing can be given to the

> > temple . A planet ,

> > meaning things associated with it , can be

> > transferred only if there

> > is a path to the 2nd house ie the second house must

> > be 'drashta'

> > [within sight]. The sight system is similar to that

> > of vedic system .

> > 7th house 100%, 5th & 9th 50% etc with minor

> > differences we could

> > talk later.

> > There are two stages involved in it. [ one ] To get

> > rid of the bad

> > effects and also to appease the planet offer the

> > thing in the temple.

> > [ two ]But if you need to energise the good effects

> > of the planet as

> > well then bring back home half of what you had

> > offered . This half

> > that you brought back home is thus considered as the

> > part blessed by

> > the deity which you establish at home or on the

> > person as the case

> > may be .

> > According to the lal Kitab this is one of the two

> > methods of '

> > grah ki taseer badalna'(changing the nature of the

> > planet)

> >

> > thanks for raising the issue

> >

> > with regards,

> >

> > upadhyay

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Upadhyaya,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

>>>>Even in the vedic astrology, the karakatwa of

planets over objects has been defined by learned

Rishis and we accept it as a matter of faith....>>>

 

In this connection, I would again like to inform you

that, accepting the fact, as a matter of faith,

particularly,in this age of fast moving experimental

astrology, is being reduced gradually and as you know

we all are striving for this. No doubt, we all are

aware of the fact, that, each and every letter of the

ancient vedic scholors are certainly backed with ample

amount of logic,the needing factor now is that the

vision of enterpretation to unearth the logic and that

is available with few intuitive astrologers like you.

However, with the prolonged continuous striving we are

partly successful in it hope will be successful in

further.

 

For example, I was really astonished to veiw some of

your posts suggesting for liquour offering to sun,

which hardly any vedic text refers,further, you have

mentioned the text of fulk-wisdom,which is also new to

me,fact is that, we are all, so confined,to a

particular part of astrology and we are not able to

lookupon the text out of confined subject,so here, we

miss lot of valuable thing. But as I started reviewing

some ancient texts to find out the logic I am unable

to, except the one,I got as under which assimilate

very few to your above suggession :my personal

observation to the theory :

" offering milk in a cupper pot to lord Shiva generally

avoided as it is considered to be as like as offering

liquor to lord shiva especially in one day perhaps but

not every where, this offering is done that milk in

copper pot brought for the preparation of Bhang and

that is consumed by few people as prashad,save, I have

never used it but I had gone some places in order to

find the logic behind why milk in copper pot

considered to be as offering liquor to lord shiva,but

on my observation I found that is not upto the mark

and I am still again on the looking side for the

observation of logic behind the above factor. So, my

point of saying here is that, folk-wisdom refers to

offering liquor to sun-saturn -combination-time,does

it really worksout,have you ever experimented it

carefully, if so, we can surely move to find out some

specific logic by combining the above two factor

through vedic-astro and fulk-wisdom texts. Can I get

some idea about your this text that has anywhere

Fulk-wisdom got certain link with vedic/traditional

astrology if so please let me know.

 

Please go through the matters carefully and send your

comments and suggesstion in the matter.

 

Thanks once again,

With best wishes,

P K Tripathy.

> lalkitab , " p.k. tripathy "

> <pktripathy2003> wrote:

> > Dear Mr Upadhyaya,

> >

> > Well,then, as per LK,if we want to energise the

> > positive energy ofthe planet, then we have to get

> back

> > home half of the respective materials, offered in

> the

> > temple andshould we keep it, at respective planet

> > dominated places or what?

> >

> [ I am not familiar with vastu shashtra

> therefore

> I can't say much about it , but logically

> speaking

> yes, it will be more beneficial if we could

> establish the karak object at a place

> associated

> with that planet. Lal Kitab ofcourse doesn't

> put any such condition in most cases.

> however I have

> read about a few upayas where there are

> instructions

> to place it at the door.. or in the tijori [

> safe where

> money is kept] or near the source of water

> etc , but

> it is in a few case only ]

>

> Secondly, please clarify, how do you visualise

> logic

> > especially when u deal with LK remidies, because

> > herealso material associated with the planet as

> per LK

> > is quite different with the material associated

> with

> > planet as per vedic astrology.

>

> [ even in the vedic astrolgy the karkatwa of

> planets over objects has been defined by

> the learned Rishis and we accept it as a

> matter of faith. Lal Kitab also accepts

> the vedic karak objects and has added a

> few

> more based on the traditions prevelant in

> the areas where Lal Kitab system took

> shape

> over centuries , and I accept them again

> as

> a matter of faith. Therefore the material

> used is neither different nor

> contradictory,

> it is vedic along with materials accepted

> by the collective folk wisdom of the area

> ]

>

>

> > Thanks for detailing the fact.

> >

> > With best wishes,

> > P K Tripathy

> > --- upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote:

> > > dear Tripathi ji ,

> > > Yes you are right that in the vedic system

> > > offering a thing in the

> > > temple destroys the ill effects of the planet

> and at

> > > the same time

> > > energises its good effects. And also that you

> could

> > > offer things

> > > associated with all the planets in the Kundali .

> I

> > > am afraid this is

> > > not possible according to the Lal Kitab.

> > > Lal Kitab makes further distinction into this

> > > process, which sounds

> > > very scientific . Not every planet of the

> kundali

> > > can be transferred

> > > to the dharma sthan (Lal Kitab considers the 2nd

> > > house as the dharm

> > > sthan ) ie. not every thing can be given to the

> > > temple . A planet ,

> > > meaning things associated with it , can be

> > > transferred only if there

> > > is a path to the 2nd house ie the second house

> must

> > > be 'drashta'

> > > [within sight]. The sight system is similar to

> that

> > > of vedic system .

> > > 7th house 100%, 5th & 9th 50% etc with minor

> > > differences we could

> > > talk later.

> > > There are two stages involved in it. [ one ] To

> get

> > > rid of the bad

> > > effects and also to appease the planet offer the

> > > thing in the temple.

> > > [ two ]But if you need to energise the good

> effects

> > > of the planet as

> > > well then bring back home half of what you had

> > > offered . This half

> > > that you brought back home is thus considered as

> the

> > > part blessed by

> > > the deity which you establish at home or on the

> > > person as the case

> > > may be .

> > > According to the lal Kitab this is one of the

> two

> > > methods of '

> > > grah ki taseer badalna'(changing the nature of

> the

> > > planet)

> > >

> > > thanks for raising the issue

> > >

> > > with regards,

> > >

> > > upadhyay

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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