Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Dear Vinod ji, There are six forms of upaya mentioned in the Lal Kitab.Only a very few of them have to be done for 43 days.Most of them are to be done only once . For example a planet is giving bad results for that year due to its placement in the varsh-phal kundli, there could be two things done. Either we destroy the planet for that year , which i normally don't suggest , or to remove it away from you. destroying is done by burying where as removing is done by either giving it in a temple or offering [ throwing ]it to a flowing river. Now these two forms of upayas will be one time upaya. Or lets take a third type of upaya ie to establish [ sthapit karna]things related to the planet either on person or in the house. This again will be a one time upaya. Therefore there are very few upaya which might have to be done for 43 days. Most of them are one time upaya. Yes you are right, most of the books available in the market claiming to be based on Lal Kitab have a list of upaya for each planet in each house. I donot trust those books nor the upaya suggested by them. The lal kitab upaya are very logically thought out , and unless i am convinced of the logic and the rationality of that upaya i would neither accept them nor would suggest them . My interest in astrology ... traditional , nadi , KP , Katwe ji or Lal Kitab is purely academic and therefore logic and rationality are what i am concerned with most. with regards, upadhyay lalkitab , vinod kumar <chamakkam2003> wrote: > This is with reference to Upaya given by Upadhyay > > One remedy at a time and Lal Kitab recomend at least 43 days for each remedy.Now you have given some 4-5 remedies and if we go by 43 days for each Upaya then it will take 4-5 months to complete all remedies. > My question is does it necesaary to do all remedies? becasue I have observed that for every placement of planet in Lal Kitab there is one or two remedies minimum now if out of 9 planets we get say 3-4 planet bad placement then the number of remedies would be 7-8 minimum. > Also there are Upaya like keeping some items in room etc.Again my question is do we have to keep these items for life long or just for 40-43 days. > Also how do you predict the change in Job etc.? > > Vinod Kumar > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 Dear Mr Upadhyaya, Interesting interpretation.But I wd like to be clarified in one thing, why a, single occurance has got different meaning in different shastras, like one, here, you have mentioned removing the planet away from,basically done, by offering at temples,flowing it to river,but in vedic remidies,offerings at temple removes the ill effect of planets but energise the positive effect of planets further, like through burying it destroys the planet but in vedic ways it energise the positive effect of planets. Please clarify. It is really a matter of appreciation,you believe in logical interpretation of shastras,in my openion also one should be very much confirmed about the logical validity of a method written in ancient shastras before advising remidial measures rather simply basing on the version of shastras, actually,though the confirmation of logical validity,only, we can interprete the ancient visions more sharply. Thanks, With best wishes, P K Tripathy. --- upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd wrote: > Dear Vinod ji, > There are six forms of upaya mentioned > in the Lal > Kitab.Only a very few of them have to be done for 43 > days.Most of > them are to be done only once . For example a planet > is giving bad > results for that year due to its placement in the > varsh-phal kundli, > there could be two things done. Either we destroy > the planet for that > year , which i normally don't suggest , or to remove > it away from > you. destroying is done by burying where as removing > is done by > either giving it in a temple or offering [ throwing > ]it to a flowing > river. Now these two forms of upayas will be one > time upaya. Or lets > take a third type of upaya ie to establish [ sthapit > karna]things > related to the planet either on person or in the > house. This again > will be a one time upaya. > Therefore there are very few upaya which > might have to be > done for 43 days. Most of them are one time upaya. > > Yes you are right, most of the books > available in the > market claiming to be based on Lal Kitab have a list > of upaya for > each planet in each house. I donot trust those books > nor the upaya > suggested by them. The lal kitab upaya are very > logically thought > out , and unless i am convinced of the logic and the > rationality of > that upaya i would neither accept them nor would > suggest them . > > My interest in astrology ... > traditional , nadi , KP , > Katwe ji or Lal Kitab is purely academic and > therefore logic and > rationality are what i am concerned with most. > > with regards, > upadhyay > > > > > lalkitab , vinod kumar > <chamakkam2003> > wrote: > > This is with reference to Upaya given by Upadhyay > > > > One remedy at a time and Lal Kitab recomend at > least 43 days for > each remedy.Now you have given some 4-5 remedies and > if we go by 43 > days for each Upaya then it will take 4-5 months to > complete all > remedies. > > My question is does it necesaary to do all > remedies? becasue I have > observed that for every placement of planet in Lal > Kitab there is one > or two remedies minimum now if out of 9 planets we > get say 3-4 planet > bad placement then the number of remedies would be > 7-8 minimum. > > Also there are Upaya like keeping some items in > room etc.Again my > question is do we have to keep these items for life > long or just for > 40-43 days. > > Also how do you predict the change in Job etc.? > > > > Vinod Kumar > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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