Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Dear Punyasalila ji, I have gone through the horoascope of your friend and here are the findings. I would love if Bhatia ji could also go through this and give his reactions. [ 1 ] The planets in the Lagna are ' soye huye grah ' [ 2 ] Jupiter is ' manda grah ' because its enemy planets are in its pukka house and also because mercury is in the rasi of jupiter and along with it. [ 3 ] Mars and moon both are in the neech houses [ according to lal kitab] , I mean the houses and not the rasi.. Moon in the 10th is described as ' pahari ki vajah se ruka hua pani ' [ 4] Venus is in the company of Rahu and therefore 'manda' [ 5 ] Saturn in the 6th isn't good either The Upaya To be done during the day and one at a time [ a ] Offer sabut moong in the temple [ b ] offer rice in the temple and bring back home half of the rice offered. [ c ] keep a square piece of copper and some saffron in a silver ' dibbi ' in his room. [ d ] keep a small ivory object with him [ e ] put some mustard oil in an unused earthen pot and bury it in a pond ' talab' where the water never dries. The job: He is running Jupiter maha dasha . When the antar dasha of moon [ planet in the 10th] starts in Nov 2004 he must get a good job However he is not going to stick to a particular job or a place for a long time. Both the change of job and the place are indicated Caution : do these upaya only when Bhatia ji says that they are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Dear Upadhyay Ji, I might be wrong but as per my knowledge of Lal Kitab, we cannot conclude any planet malefic or benefic without knowing the present condition of the person. I want to say that taking feedback is most important process in judging malefic/ benefic nature of any planet. Regards, Punit Pandeyupadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd wrote: Dear Punyasalila ji,I have gone through the horoascope of your friend and here are the findings. I would love if Bhatia ji could also go through this and give his reactions. [ 1 ] The planets in the Lagna are ' soye huye grah '[ 2 ] Jupiter is ' manda grah ' because its enemy planets are in its pukka house and also because mercury is in the rasi of jupiter and along with it.[ 3 ] Mars and moon both are in the neech houses [ according to lal kitab] , I mean the houses and not the rasi.. Moon in the 10th is described as ' pahari ki vajah se ruka hua pani '[ 4] Venus is in the company of Rahu and therefore 'manda'[ 5 ] Saturn in the 6th isn't good eitherThe Upaya To be done during the day and one at a time[ a ] Offer sabut moong in the temple[ b ] offer rice in the temple and bring back home half of the rice offered.[ c ] keep a square piece of copper and some saffron in a silver ' dibbi ' in his room.[ d ] keep a small ivory object with him[ e ] put some mustard oil in an unused earthen pot and bury it in a pond ' talab' where the water never dries. The job:He is running Jupiter maha dasha . When the antar dasha of moon [ planet in the 10th] starts in Nov 2004 he must get a good jobHowever he is not going to stick to a particular job or a place for a long time. Both the change of job and the place are indicatedCaution : do these upaya only when Bhatia ji says that they are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 dear Punit ji, It is the placement of the planet in the janma kundali which decides whether the planet is ' nek ' or ' manda ' In the Lal Kitab for each planet these conditions are laid down.For example in the chart of punyasalila's friend Jupiter is ' manda ' because of two reasons [ a ]Jupiter will be manda if planets enemy to jupiter are placed in its pukka ghar...here venus and rahu both enemy of jupiter are placed in the second the pukka house of jupiter [ b ] if mercury is placed in its rasi... here merc is in dhanu along with jupiter. Yes there might be some verification questions , and i have seen Bhatia ji asking them here . But with due respect for Bhatia ji I must say that I haven't found such questions in any of the three editions of Lal kitab that I have . I have 1939 ed , 1942 ed and the most comprehensive 1952 ed. there are of course some indications of what will happen if a planet is nek or manda and questions could be formed on that , but it is not available for all the planets under all the conditions . Bhatia ji might have got extra insight into the book from Roop chand joshi ji himself. But most of us who are studying Lal Kitab and don't have access to such insight will have to go by what the book says and can't creat questions where there are no indications in the book. Ofcourse I had made a mistake at one place in my analysis which i realised after I had clicked ' send '. talking about Mars in the neech ghar... I mentioned moon also and that is wrong with regards, upadhyay lalkitab , Punit Pandey <pandeypunit> wrote: > > Dear Upadhyay Ji, > > I might be wrong but as per my knowledge of Lal Kitab, we cannot conclude any planet malefic or benefic without knowing the present condition of the person. I want to say that taking feedback is most important process in judging malefic/ benefic nature of any planet. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote:Dear Punyasalila ji, > > I have gone through the horoascope of your friend and here are the > findings. I would love if Bhatia ji could also go through this and > give his reactions. > > [ 1 ] The planets in the Lagna are ' soye huye grah ' > [ 2 ] Jupiter is ' manda grah ' because its enemy planets are in its > pukka house and also because mercury is in the rasi of jupiter and > along with it. > [ 3 ] Mars and moon both are in the neech houses [ according to lal > kitab] , I mean the houses and not the rasi.. Moon in the 10th is > described as ' pahari ki vajah se ruka hua pani ' > [ 4] Venus is in the company of Rahu and therefore 'manda' > [ 5 ] Saturn in the 6th isn't good either > > The Upaya > To be done during the day and one at a time > > [ a ] Offer sabut moong in the temple > [ b ] offer rice in the temple and bring back home half of the rice > offered. > [ c ] keep a square piece of copper and some saffron in a silver ' > dibbi ' in his room. > [ d ] keep a small ivory object with him > [ e ] put some mustard oil in an unused earthen pot and bury it in a > pond ' talab' where the water never dries. > > > The job: > > He is running Jupiter maha dasha . When the antar dasha of moon [ > planet in the 10th] starts in Nov 2004 he must get a good job > However he is not going to stick to a particular job or a place for a > long time. Both the change of job and the place are indicated > > Caution : do these upaya only when Bhatia ji says that they are ok. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Dear Upadhyay Ji I seriously disagree. The method adopted by you doesn't seem correct to me. In fact it is highly dangerous as you might be knowing that the remedies of Lal Kitab can backfire. It can destroy the planets giving good effects or activate planets that were not giving bad effects till the time of remedy. I request Bhatia Ji and other learned member of this group to to help us in understanding exact situation. I think it is very serious issue and if I am right, the remedy can be dangerous to the native. As far as my knowledge, merely planetary placement cannot decide nek or manda nature of the planet. I think we have already discussed it at various places in this group. Bhatia Ji had given the example of his son and neighbor, probably that can be referred here. Also somewhere else he has given the procedure to find 'nek' and 'manda.' Please go though that. In your example, you say Jupiter is manda due to some planetary placements. But I think if Jupiter is not showing ill results on it's karaks objects like father, guru, finance etc., it should not be taken as malefic. In such a case remedy of Jupiter can backfire. Regards, Punit Pandeyupadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd wrote: dear Punit ji, It is the placement of the planet in the janma kundali which decides whether the planet is ' nek ' or ' manda ' In the Lal Kitab for each planet these conditions are laid down.For example in the chart of punyasalila's friend Jupiter is ' manda ' because of two reasons [ a ]Jupiter will be manda if planets enemy to jupiter are placed in its pukka ghar...here venus and rahu both enemy of jupiter are placed in the second the pukka house of jupiter [ b ] if mercury is placed in its rasi... here merc is in dhanu along with jupiter. Yes there might be some verification questions , and i have seen Bhatia ji asking them here . But with due respect for Bhatia ji I must say that I haven't found such questions in any of the three editions of Lal kitab that I have . I have 1939 ed , 1942 ed and the most comprehensive 1952 ed. there are of course some indications of what will happen if a planet is nek or manda and questions could be formed on that , but it is not available for all the planets under all the conditions . Bhatia ji might have got extra insight into the book from Roop chand joshi ji himself. But most of us who are studying Lal Kitab and don't have access to such insight will have to go by what the book says and can't creat questions where there are no indications in the book. Ofcourse I had made a mistake at one place in my analysis which i realised after I had clicked ' send '. talking about Mars in the neech ghar... I mentioned moon also and that is wrongwith regards,upadhyay lalkitab , Punit Pandey <pandeypunit> wrote:> > Dear Upadhyay Ji,> > I might be wrong but as per my knowledge of Lal Kitab, we cannot conclude any planet malefic or benefic without knowing the present condition of the person. I want to say that taking feedback is most important process in judging malefic/ benefic nature of any planet. > > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote:Dear Punyasalila ji,> > I have gone through the horoascope of your friend and here are the > findings. I would love if Bhatia ji could also go through this and > give his reactions.> > [ 1 ] The planets in the Lagna are ' soye huye grah '> [ 2 ] Jupiter is ' manda grah ' because its enemy planets are in its > pukka house and also because mercury is in the rasi of jupiter and > along with it.> [ 3 ] Mars and moon both are in the neech houses [ according to lal > kitab] , I mean the houses and not the rasi.. Moon in the 10th is > described as ' pahari ki vajah se ruka hua pani '> [ 4] Venus is in the company of Rahu and therefore 'manda'> [ 5 ] Saturn in the 6th isn't good either> > The Upaya> To be done during the day and one at a time> > [ a ] Offer sabut moong in the temple> [ b ] offer rice in the temple and bring back home half of the rice > offered.> [ c ] keep a square piece of copper and some saffron in a silver ' > dibbi ' in his room.> [ d ] keep a small ivory object with him> [ e ] put some mustard oil in an unused earthen pot and bury it in a > pond ' talab' where the water never dries.> > > The job:> > He is running Jupiter maha dasha . When the antar dasha of moon [ > planet in the 10th] starts in Nov 2004 he must get a good job> However he is not going to stick to a particular job or a place for a > long time. Both the change of job and the place are indicated> > Caution : do these upaya only when Bhatia ji says that they are ok.> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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