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Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which

other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a

real person who has eight house strong can understand the true

meanings of lal kitab.

 

Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no

sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results,

firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a

mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda

satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the

society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has

wrote.

 

I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems,

which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the

saravali book and see it your self.

 

In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines

it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this

planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad

what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some

pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to

a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what

I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be

like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament

etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life

full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only

camels are found in desert.

 

Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people

when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where

the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house,

12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will

have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they

remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.

 

One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the

famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and

says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the

horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed

in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing

related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So

finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture

of camel in that.

 

So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her

destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru

kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.

 

In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home

and when to not.

 

Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for

example if you want to have good career just use the ring which

got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left

hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your

career.

 

I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are

guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr.

Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an

astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one

like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he

chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at

lalkitab.

 

So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I

went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.

 

I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the

precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do

the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is

doing from many years

 

With my best wishes

 

Tarun Chopra

naastrology/

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :

>

>

>amolmandar <amolmandar wrote:To:

>vedic astrology

> " amolmandar "

>Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000

>[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab

>

>

>Dear Sanjayji

>

>You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the

>ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the

>astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may

>be).

>Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his

>replies

>told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like

>anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this

>book

>3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed

>in

>my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in

>one

>shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me

>about

>the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I

>got

>nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in

>his

>replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can

>purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group

>declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt

>for

>Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am

>a

>shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to

>lalkitab.

>My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it

>have

>any relation to it?

>

>Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

>AmolMandar

>

>

>

>vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath "

><srath@s...>

>wrote:

> >

> >

> > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?

> > DearNeeraj

> > :) name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look

>into

>books,

> > perhaps you will find something interesting.

> > With best wishes & regards,

> > Yours truly,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > ___

> > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014

> > http://srath.com http://.org

> >

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]

> > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab

> >

> > Dear Mr. Sanjay.

> >

> > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the

> > book during the following dasha

> >

> > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still

> > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any

> > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.

> >

> > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to

> > have a copy of it.

> >

> > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given

> > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies

> > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is

> > what i feel)

> >

> > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I

> > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:

> > > Hello Everyone,

> > >

> > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab

> > > discussion group at

> > > lalkitab/ and know

> > > more about the system. I think the archive of this

> > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> > > Dear Niraj

> > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so

> > > after reading it. If

> > > you note my observations in my books, I am not

> > > against the concept of

> > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is

> > > terrible and some of them

> > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,

> > > you would have got the Red

> > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or

> > > a planet strongly

> > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of

> > > planets conjoined Guru or

> > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and

> > > tell us what was your

> > > experience.

> > > With best wishes & regards,

> > > I remain

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > >

> >

>--

>------

> > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com

> > > <http://srath.com>

> > >

> >

>--

>------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]

> > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab

> > >

> > >

> > > hi,

> > >

> > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by

> > > different

> > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I

> > > firmly

> > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)

> > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal

> > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic

> > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for

> > > Lal Kitaab.

> > >

> > > neeraj

> > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ashish,

> > > >

> > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep

> > > away

> > > > from lalkitab.

> > > > You may find that information if you do some

> > > search

> > > > in this group's

> > > > archives. Guru's please comment.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rao

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , ashish

> > > > mishra <gituyahu>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has

> > > > experience pls

> > > > share it. thank you.

> > > > >

> > > > > ashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hello

 

i am no master in lal kitab i normaly use both vedic and lalkitab

priciples so i cannot comment on any horoscope with lal kitab

principles, my motive to wite on lal kitab was that it has

something worth so we should not ignore that book and kindly note

my email id is astrotarun not tarun_ayanamsha some one is doing

some myschif with me

 

so i will recomend that it should be taken care off

 

regards

 

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Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes,

 

Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I have no idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest anything to anyone with my half knowledge.

 

Regards,

 

Punit PandeyRajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:

vedic astrology From: "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" Sat, 17 May 2003 07:08:11 -0000[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab a wonderful bookDear Punit JI, Well since you are so BOLDLY declaring over the net(practically shouting over the net in capital letters) that Lal Kitab works and since you have already taken a bold stand on this, so please let me know where this Book is available for people who are outside India(Like me) and also which Lal Kitab is authentic(which one is the original work and not the supposedly fake/infamous copies in circulation, as reported by other members..may be this is the main hinderance in getting to the real Lal Kitab.) one and where its available, price etc., . I will try to get it, if I can afford it. Also since it appears that you have found/acknowledged that certain remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab work, so can you please kindly suggest some remedies for the following general cases(then I can try to understand the methodology): (1) Let us say that any native is not getting any job/any stable job, say due to Malefic Antar-dasas or due to evil effects of various planets, who are either placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords of these houses. Any general ideas/remedies will be sufficient for the sake of general knowledge only.(2) There are several Girls/Boys who are of marriage age (and have good jobs and education) yet they are not getting married, or unable to find suitable partners for years and years. Again let us assume its due to malefic antar-dasas or evil effects of various planets. You may assume that various planets stopping marriage are either placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords of these houses. Any general ideas/remedies will be sufficient for the sake of general knowledge only.May be you have encountered such cases and we all can all learn from them/get some info. about Lal Kitab techniques. Thanks and Kind Regards. Rajesh Kumaria.vedic astrology , Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> Dear Rajesh Ji,> > Lets not involve in such a never ending discussion. Few people raise the question on even vedic astrology in the same way you are raising question on Lal Kitab. But I have seen some good predictions using Lal Kitab. So what I just want to say is - "HAATH KANGAN KO AARSI KYA". Whether it seems tamsik in nature or the remedies do not sound plausible but in my opinion "it works."> > It is just my opinion and everyone is free to follow his soul. > > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> Dear Tarun and Learned Members,> > I think the various things that you have mentioned sofar depend upon > the viewer's perspective only and hardly supported by astrology > rules. Its like the famous "the glass is half empty and half full" > thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad mars is > like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing > always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the soldier > becomes a great patriotic warrior, but when the same very soldier > belongs to an offensive and aggressive army, then that very soldier > is the person involved in wars and aggression of all sorts. So then > you need a Good Soldier to fight the Bad Soldier. Similarly, when one > is passing through the Desert, the Camel is the one who saves the > life and helps the people carry goods and human beings across vast > stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert and Desert > is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then should > one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing the > Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective. > > > > Also you did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good soldier > automatically. God mars can also lead to those scientists who are > responsible for weapons development and so indirectly these very > scientists are responsible for human destruction everywhere. So good > mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the name of national > defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very > scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver > various human beings from one life to another..They are all part of > Gigiantic Karma Cycle at Planet level and nothing more. The only > thing is it took me several years to understand all this, which is > clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita everywhere. By the same angle the > hard working Camel was sent to help good human beings across the > deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some illogical happenings! > Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who dedicated their > lives to peaceful and useful research related to industrialization > and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it all really > depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is > hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person who > has worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or reached > 40/42 age or more, can definitely agree with my views to some extent.> > > > Similarly you said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha and is > bad for finances etc., You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to > poverty. Well then why are millions praying to Ganesha for > prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then how come > Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that the > Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha, so > that the human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed to > understand all your logics. Are all these things supported by > scriptures somewhere. Please explain. > Thanks and Regards.> Rajesh Kumaria.> > > vedic astrology , "tarun chopra" > <astrotarun@r...> wrote:> > Hello Members> > > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which > > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing a > > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true > > meanings of lal kitab.> > > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house no > > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful results, > > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when ever a > > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of yogda > > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the > > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has > > wrote.> > > > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the problems, > > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the > > saravali book and see it your self.> > > > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm lines > > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this > > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if bad > > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some > > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction to > > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now what > > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will be > > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good temperament > > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a life > > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only > > camels are found in desert.> > > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of people > > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed where > > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth house, > > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you will > > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they > > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their lives.> > > > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing the > > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people and > > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw the > > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly placed > > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing > > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her home. So > > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a picture > > of camel in that.> > > > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in her > > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of guru > > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.> > > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in home > > and when to not.> > > > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions for > > example if you want to have good career just use the ring which > > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your left > > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your > > career.> > > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are > > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from Mr. > > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an > > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any one > > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he > > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at > > lalkitab.> > > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good that I > > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.> > > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the > > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to do > > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who is > > doing from many years> > > > With my best wishes> > > > Tarun Chopra> > naastrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :> > >> > >> > >amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:> > >vedic astrology > > > "amolmandar"> > >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000> > >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > >> > >> > >Dear Sanjayji> > >> > >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in the> > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the> > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra may > > >be).> > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his > > >replies> > >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like> > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase this > > >book> > >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I failed > > >in> > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the Kitab in > > >one> > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me > > >about> > >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced me I > > >got> > >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji in > > >his> > >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can> > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group> > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt > > >for> > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now I am > > >a> > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to > > >lalkitab.> > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does it > > >have> > >any relation to it?> > >> > >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > >> > >AmolMandar> > >> > >> > >> > >vedic astrology , "Sanjay Rath" > > ><srath@s...>> > >wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?> > > > DearNeeraj> > > > :) name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and look > > >into> > >books,> > > > perhaps you will find something interesting.> > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > Yours truly,> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > ___> > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014> > > > http://srath.com http://.org> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM> > > > vedic astrology > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.> > > >> > > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the> > > > book during the following dasha> > > >> > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still> > > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any> > > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.> > > >> > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to> > > > have a copy of it.> > > >> > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given> > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies> > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is> > > > what i feel)> > > >> > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I> > > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Neeraj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:> > > > > Hello Everyone,> > > > >> > > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab> > > > > discussion group at> > > > > lalkitab/ and know> > > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this> > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Punit Pandey> > > > >> > > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||> > > > > Dear Niraj> > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so> > > > > after reading it. If> > > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not> > > > > against the concept of> > > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is> > > > > terrible and some of them> > > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,> > > > > you would have got the Red> > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or> > > > > a planet strongly> > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of> > > > > planets conjoined Guru or> > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and> > > > > tell us what was your> > > > > experience.> > > > > With best wishes & regards,> > > > > I remain> > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > >> > > > > > >-> -> > >------> > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> > > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com> > > > > <http://srath.com>> > > > >> > > > > > >-> -> > >------> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]> > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM> > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > hi,> > > > >> > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by> > > > > different> > > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I> > > > > firmly> > > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)> > > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal> > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic> > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for> > > > > Lal Kitaab.> > > > >> > > > > neeraj> > > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ashish,> > > > > >> > > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep> > > > > away> > > > > > from lalkitab.> > > > > > You may find that information if you do some> > > > > search> > > > > > in this group's> > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Rao> > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology , ashish> > > > > > mishra <gituyahu>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has> > > > > > experience pls> > > > > > share it. thank you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ashish> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > =====> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> > > > > http://search.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Archives:> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > >> > > > > Group info:> > > > >> > > > vedic astrology/info.html> > > > >> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > > > vedic astrology-> > > > >> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > >> > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > > > > ||> > > > >> > > > >

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lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitastrologer>

wrote:

Dear learned members,

 

I came across the following interesting discussion about placing

pictures of camels in our homes and its bad effects in certain cases.

 

We are living in Saudi Arabia and we are having couple of camel

(ship of the desert) things in our house. My husband has Mars ®

in Virgo in the eight house from Moon and 11th house from Lagna. He

is presently having a tough time in his career. Should we remove

the camel from our home or having camel in a desert country is good?

 

My husbands details are as under:

Place of birth: Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India

Date of Birth: 5th Feb 1965

Time of birth: 3.07 AM

 

Thanks in advance and best regards

 

 

> Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes,

>

> Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I have no

idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest anything to

anyone with my half knowledge.

>

> Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> vedic astrology

> " Rajesh Mohan Kumaria "

> Sat, 17 May 2003 07:08:11 -0000

> [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab a wonderful book

>

> Dear Punit JI,

>

> Well since you are so BOLDLY declaring over the net(practically

> shouting over the net in capital letters) that Lal Kitab works and

> since you have already taken a bold stand on this, so please let

me

> know where this Book is available for people who are outside India

> (Like me) and also which Lal Kitab is authentic(which one is the

> original work and not the supposedly fake/infamous copies in

> circulation, as reported by other members..may be this is the main

> hinderance in getting to the real Lal Kitab.) one and where its

> available, price etc., . I will try to get it, if I can afford it.

>

> Also since it appears that you have found/acknowledged that

certain

> remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab work, so can you please kindly

> suggest some remedies for the following general cases(then I can

try

> to understand the methodology):

>

> (1) Let us say that any native is not getting any job/any stable

job,

> say due to Malefic Antar-dasas or due to evil effects of various

> planets, who are either placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords

of

> these houses. Any general ideas/remedies will be sufficient for

the

> sake of general knowledge only.

>

> (2) There are several Girls/Boys who are of marriage age (and have

> good jobs and education) yet they are not getting married, or

unable

> to find suitable partners for years and years. Again let us assume

> its due to malefic antar-dasas or evil effects of various planets.

> You may assume that various planets stopping marriage are either

> placed in 6th/8th/12th houses or are lords of these houses. Any

> general ideas/remedies will be sufficient for the sake of general

> knowledge only.

>

>

> May be you have encountered such cases and we all can all learn

from

> them/get some info. about Lal Kitab techniques.

>

> Thanks and Kind Regards.

> Rajesh Kumaria.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , Punit Pandey

> <punitastrologer> wrote:

> > Dear Rajesh Ji,

> >

> > Lets not involve in such a never ending discussion. Few people

> raise the question on even vedic astrology in the same way you are

> raising question on Lal Kitab. But I have seen some good

predictions

> using Lal Kitab. So what I just want to say is - " HAATH KANGAN KO

> AARSI KYA " . Whether it seems tamsik in nature or the remedies do

not

> sound plausible but in my opinion " it works. "

> >

> > It is just my opinion and everyone is free to follow his soul.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > Dear Tarun and Learned Members,

> >

> > I think the various things that you have mentioned sofar depend

> upon

> > the viewer's perspective only and hardly supported by astrology

> > rules. Its like the famous " the glass is half empty and half

full "

> > thing. Now assuming that Good mars is like a soldier and Bad

mars

> is

> > like a Camel…Then how come being a soldier becomes a good thing

> > always. When the soldier defends his/her nation, then the

soldier

> > becomes a great patriotic warrior, but when the same very

soldier

> > belongs to an offensive and aggressive army, then that very

soldier

> > is the person involved in wars and aggression of all sorts. So

then

> > you need a Good Soldier to fight the Bad Soldier. Similarly,

when

> one

> > is passing through the Desert, the Camel is the one who saves

the

> > life and helps the people carry goods and human beings across

vast

> > stretches of land…but as per you Camel belongs to Desert and

Desert

> > is dangerous for life etc., So when one is in the desert, then

> should

> > one take the Camel's help or just face hard times by refusing

the

> > Camel's help. It all depends upon the viewer's perspective.

> >

> >

> >

> > Also you did not explain how come good Mars becomes a good

soldier

> > automatically. God mars can also lead to those scientists who

are

> > responsible for weapons development and so indirectly these very

> > scientists are responsible for human destruction everywhere. So

> good

> > mars is a soldier who uses such weapons in the name of national

> > defense everywhere. Infact its very obvious that these very

> > scientists and Soldiers have been sent by Lord Vishnu to deliver

> > various human beings from one life to another..They are all

part

> of

> > Gigiantic Karma Cycle at Planet level and nothing more. The only

> > thing is it took me several years to understand all this, which

is

> > clearly explained in Bhagvad-Gita everywhere. By the same angle

the

> > hard working Camel was sent to help good human beings across the

> > deserts. Why blame the poor camel due to some illogical

happenings!

> > Similarly there are other scientists and soldiers who dedicated

> their

> > lives to peaceful and useful research related to

industrialization

> > and agriculture. May be they also had good mars and so it all

> really

> > depends upon one's perspective and Karma. A young person who is

> > hardly 20/22 may not necessairily realize all this, but a person

> who

> > has worked(on various jobs) in life for 10/20 years and/or

reached

> > 40/42 age or more, can definitely agree with my views to some

> extent.

> >

> >

> >

> > Similarly you said one time that Lord Ganesha leads to Moksha

and

> is

> > bad for finances etc., You implied that Ganesha Idols lead to

> > poverty. Well then why are millions praying to Ganesha for

> > prosperity? Are they all guided by wrong people? Then how come

> > Ganesha gets the right of first worship? Are you implying that

the

> > Gods and Devatas have intentionally given authority to Ganesha,

so

> > that the human beings who pray to ganesha become poor! I failed

to

> > understand all your logics. Are all these things supported by

> > scriptures somewhere. Please explain.

> > Thanks and Regards.

> > Rajesh Kumaria.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , " tarun chopra "

> > <astrotarun@r...> wrote:

> > > Hello Members

> > >

> > > Lal Kitab is wonderful book and it has something unique which

> > > other books fail to do so, it is very simple and yet confusing

a

> > > real person who has eight house strong can understand the true

> > > meanings of lal kitab.

> > >

> > > Like in this all signs are removed they just deal with house

no

> > > sign is consider in this yet the houses give wonderful

results,

> > > firstly it is written in some poetic form, kindly note when

ever

> a

> > > mystic speaks he speaks in an poetic form. I am a member of

yogda

> > > satsangh society their I regularly gets the postings from the

> > > society and I can see that how well poems yogananda ji has

> > > wrote.

> > >

> > > I was telling that Lal kitab is mainly deals with the

problems,

> > > which a Vedic astrology has no mention off you can pick the

> > > saravali book and see it your self.

> > >

> > > In lalkitab you can calculate the horoscope with the palm

lines

> > > it has clearly mentioned there how the lines will be if this

> > > planet is there and if it is good what are the results and if

bad

> > > what will be the results, there it has also mentioned some

> > > pictures like if a good mars in horoscope it point a direction

to

> > > a solider, and if bad mars it gives direction to a camel now

what

> > > I understand from this that those who have good mars they will

be

> > > like soldiers always ready to move and energetic good

temperament

> > > etc and those who are having bad mars they will be having a

life

> > > full of desert a camel is a symbol of desert. You can see only

> > > camels are found in desert.

> > >

> > > Now with this simple example I have solved many problems of

> people

> > > when ever a person visit me and if he has mars badly placed

where

> > > the mars badly placed if is placed in eight house, fourth

house,

> > > 12th house so I tell them that go and see in your home you

will

> > > have a camel picture in your home just remove it. And as they

> > > remove them the happiness and prosperity comes into their

lives.

> > >

> > > One day one of my close friend sister got ill see was wearing

the

> > > famous yantra, which a famous astrologer gives to all people

and

> > > says that it is wonderful remedy for all. Any way when I draw

the

> > > horary chart for that girl I found that her mars is badly

placed

> > > in a horoscope I told her mother that go and remove any thing

> > > related to camel but she could not found any camel in her

home.

> So

> > > finally I went to their home and found a calendar where a

picture

> > > of camel in that.

> > >

> > > So as soon I removed that she start feeling better. It was in

her

> > > destiny that she will be helped by an astrologer because of

guru

> > > kirpa where a guru aspect her Lagna chart.

> > >

> > > In lal kitab it is clearly mention when to use any yantra in

home

> > > and when to not.

> > >

> > > Lal kitab has really great remedies which are just precautions

> for

> > > example if you want to have good career just use the ring

which

> > > got from your wife parents side and wear that ring in your

left

> > > hand and see the life how does it changes in terms of your

> > > career.

> > >

> > > I am no good in lal kitab I make my own remedies, which are

> > > guided, from my soul but I have tried to learn lal kitab from

Mr.

> > > Rajiv Kathar his writings can be found in star teller an

> > > astrological magazine with a column instant remedies. If any

one

> > > like to contact him is email id is lalkitab and he

> > > chargers 500 rupees for one chart. And he is really good at

> > > lalkitab.

> > >

> > > So I hope no one condemns lal kitab or says it is not good

that I

> > > went to get the readings from lalkitab reader.

> > >

> > > I also use most of the remedies of lal kitb but I just use the

> > > precautions only, which are very effective. But if you want to

do

> > > the remedies please consult the master or the practitioner who

is

> > > doing from many years

> > >

> > > With my best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > > naastrology/

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Fri, 16 May 2003 Punit Pandey wrote :

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:To:

> > > >vedic astrology

> > > > " amolmandar "

> > > >Fri, 16 May 2003 11:17:25 -0000

> > > >[vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Dear Sanjayji

> > > >

> > > >You are very correct. I got exposed to lalkitab remedies in

the

> > > >ve/ju/ra. I simply came to know about remedial aspect of the

> > > >astrology.I was not aware of Lal or Kali kitab then(ve/JU/ra

may

> > > >be).

> > > >Now,in ve/sa/sa in the very group,Chandrashekharji in his

> > > >replies

> > > >told me about the Lal kitab. I then tried to purchase it like

> > > >anything. In ve/sa/sa(my present dasa) I tried to purchase

this

> > > >book

> > > >3-4 times. Every time because of some thing or the other I

> failed

> > > >in

> > > >my every attempt to get it. Once I was going through the

Kitab

> in

> > > >one

> > > >shop, shop owner in his eagerness to sell,started telling me

> > > >about

> > > >the good effects of the kitab. The way he tried to convinced

me

> I

> > > >got

> > > >nervous. I did not purchase the book. Then Chandrashekharji

in

> > > >his

> > > >replies gave me your book and the address as well where I can

> > > >purchase it. I got it without any problems. After that, group

> > > >declared new Gurus and I requested Chandrashekharji. My hunt

> > > >for

> > > >Lalkitab ended in becoming Shisya of Vedic jyotish Guru! Now

I

> am

> > > >a

> > > >shisya of Chandrashekharji. Now possibly I will never go to

> > > >lalkitab.

> > > >My AK is Sa and BK is Ve. I have ra,su,sa in 12th house. Does

it

> > > >have

> > > >any relation to it?

> > > >

> > > >Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > >

> > > >AmolMandar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath "

> > > ><srath@s...>

> > > >wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ?Om devaguru brihaspataye namah?

> > > > > DearNeeraj

> > > > > :) name of my book - please visit http://srath.com and

look

> > > >into

> > > >books,

> > > > > perhaps you will find something interesting.

> > > > > With best wishes & regards,

> > > > > Yours truly,

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > ___

> > > > > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar, India 751014

> > > > > http://srath.com http://.org

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]

> > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:45 PM

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Sanjay.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are AMAZINGLY TRUE and CORRECT. I possessed the

> > > > > book during the following dasha

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat-Mer-Rahu (25-Jan-02 to 04-June-02) and now I still

> > > > > have them, but I don't refer them / read them any

> > > > > more. I am more inclined to vedic astrology now.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly tell me the name of your book. I would love to

> > > > > have a copy of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, I also feel that remedies are different as given

> > > > > in Lal Kitaab. There are some strange ways of remedies

> > > > > (it appears to me somewhat Tantrik in nature, this is

> > > > > what i feel)

> > > > >

> > > > > How you came to know about the dasha, in which I

> > > > > possessed the book. Kindly reveal this MYSTERY?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Punit Pandey <punitastrologer> wrote:

> > > > > > Hello Everyone,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyone interested in Lal Kitab can join Lal Kitab

> > > > > > discussion group at

> > > > > > lalkitab/ and know

> > > > > > more about the system. I think the archive of this

> > > > > > group is the best resource on Lal Kitab on Net.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> > > > > > Dear Niraj

> > > > > > Thanks for saying this as I am happy that you say so

> > > > > > after reading it. If

> > > > > > you note my observations in my books, I am not

> > > > > > against the concept of

> > > > > > learning jyotish ideas from there, but remedy is

> > > > > > terrible and some of them

> > > > > > are very bad karma. Also if you check your dasas,

> > > > > > you would have got the Red

> > > > > > books (lal Kitab) during the period ruled by Rahu or

> > > > > > a planet strongly

> > > > > > associated with Rahu. And during the period of

> > > > > > planets conjoined Guru or

> > > > > > Guru, you will get rid of them...try to check and

> > > > > > tell us what was your

> > > > > > experience.

> > > > > > With best wishes & regards,

> > > > > > I remain

> > > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >-----------------------------

---

> --

> > -

> > > >------

> > > > > > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> > > > > > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com

> > > > > > <http://srath.com>

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >-----------------------------

---

> --

> > -

> > > >------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > [gupta_neeraj_2000]

> > > > > > Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:21 AM

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lalkitab

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have 2-3 versions of Lal Kitaab written by

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > authors. But after studying Vedic astrology, I

> > > > > > firmly

> > > > > > believe that Lal Kitaab is of very less use (if any)

> > > > > > and vedic astrolgy should be separated from Lal

> > > > > > Kitaab. It's my personal view, if you are into vedic

> > > > > > astrology or studying vedic astrology. DO NOT GO for

> > > > > > Lal Kitaab.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > neeraj

> > > > > > --- Rao Nemani <raonemani> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ashish,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think one of our gurus have mentioned to keep

> > > > > > away

> > > > > > > from lalkitab.

> > > > > > > You may find that information if you do some

> > > > > > search

> > > > > > > in this group's

> > > > > > > archives. Guru's please comment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Rao

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology , ashish

> > > > > > > mishra <gituyahu>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sir,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > how correct are lalkitab remedies. if anyone has

> > > > > > > experience pls

> > > > > > > share it. thank you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ashish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

> > > > > > http://search.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Archives:

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Group info:

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

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> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu

> > > > > > ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Hello Punit ji,

 

Well you really have an interesting query.

I read the given chart and I'll try to answer the question using my

self gained knowledge , skills, experiences in astrology field.

 

This chart is one example about the problem which has really puzzled

me all through my learning of astrology; that is –

 

should we consider the lagna kundli or chandra kundli or surya kundli

in predicting the timing of events and even the events themselves ?

 

I had many discussions with expert astrologers , young and

experienced alike who really were of one opinion that lagna should be

given the extreme importance as its changes every two hours while

chandra remains in one sign for two days, and Surya lagna cant be

taken anyways.

 

Well this verdict seemed too superficial to me because I had gone

through many astrological classics, and also books by eminent

astrologers of 20 th century & most authentic of them suggested the

use of lagna or chandra lagna or surya lagna for analysis of charts

by keeping in mind the strength of all three; ie which ever is

strongest of three lagnas should be given top priority.

 

In my own horoscope I often get correct results with my chandra and

surya lagna for they are both in same sign and this lagna is stronger

than my birth lagna. And one more thing, in using this lagna rank

method I was led by my intuition as well.

 

Anyways lets come to the problem—

 

This chart as I said matches with past events correctly when we

consider the chandra lagna rather than janma lagna/surya lagna , as

chandra lagna is strongest .

 

So I present my analysis with chandra lagna

 

native is away from his motherland, this can be easily confirmed as

Rahu is in 4 th house(from moon) , now Rahu we all know has nature of

separating the native from things governed by the house he occupies,

and 4 th governs motherland.

 

Rahu also governs Muslim countries, this also confirms as native is

in UAE, a Muslim countries. Native is undergoing mercury dasha since

1991 and I analyse that he must have left India during mercury dasha

as he rules 5 th & 8 th house(of travel) and sitting in 12 th house

(of settlement abroad.), mercury mostly gives the results of house he

occupies.

 

Now Rahu is aspecting 8 th & 12 th house and mercury ,and impeling

mercury to give these effects.

 

So its done that we've got the past events matching our analysis, so

lets proceed with main question ---

 

should the native use pictures or items of camels.?

 

Now I shall use my own knowledge here, Rahu represents deserts and

Ketu is the carrier of Rahu, Ketu is also the ship who sails over

seas, so I give my own concept here that camel, the ship of desert

who helps us to cross the deserts, is signified by Ketu.

 

Also, Ketu represents all quadrupeds, who are used as pets, so camel

must be Ketu's representative(I can offer more explainations on this

but length of mail prevents me from doing this).

 

Ketu is in profession house in sign of Mars, so he is acting as agent

of Mars and causes undesirable changes in native's career, undue

setbacks, delays in results etc.

 

Now we all know according to jyotish and vaastu ,if some planet is

affecting us badly then we should remove all things signified by that

planet from ous house and also we should not use those things, thus

if the native removes the pictures of camel and items made of camel

skin etc then he will surely notice a positive change in his

environment and in his life.

 

I hope I was able to answer the question satisfactorily according to

my limited knowledge.

 

Sincerely

 

NISHANT

 

 

 

> lalkitab , Punit Pandey

<punitastrologer>

> wrote:

> Dear learned members,

>

> I came across the following interesting discussion about placing

> pictures of camels in our homes and its bad effects in certain

cases.

>

> We are living in Saudi Arabia and we are having couple of camel

> (ship of the desert) things in our house. My husband has Mars ®

> in Virgo in the eight house from Moon and 11th house from Lagna.

He

> is presently having a tough time in his career. Should we remove

> the camel from our home or having camel in a desert country is good?

>

> My husbands details are as under:

> Place of birth: Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India

> Date of Birth: 5th Feb 1965

> Time of birth: 3.07 AM

>

> Thanks in advance and best regards

>

>

> > Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes,

> >

> > Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I have no

> idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest anything to

> anyone with my half knowledge.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

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Dear Nishant Ji,

 

Thanks for your response. First a small clarification. The query

came from me and not Mr.Puneet Pandey. I sent another email

clarifying this, but somehow it never appeared in this board.

 

Now coming to your analysis. I would have been very happy if we

were in UAE, but we are in Saudi Arabia. My husband first went to

Saudi during the 2nd half of 1988, which would put him in Sani dasha

Guru Bhukthi. From them on till now, his career has been marked by

lot of dejections, dissatisfaction, loss of job etc. But somehow

each change in job was to a higher level position and salary wise.

During 1991 Aug to 2001 Sep he was lucky to get a job in Bahrain,

which is by far a better place to live in. From Nov 2001, he is

back in Riyadh.

 

In the south, there are number of astrologers who analyse from

Chandra Lagna. I am not an expert in astrology, but there seems to

be some credibility to it.

 

His mother is Swathi nakshatra (a Rahu star) Rahu in the 4th house

First issue - Daughter is Makha star(Kethu) - 11th house lord Guru

in Mesha and Kethu represents Mars

Second issue - Son is the same star as father and he was born in

Saudi.

I am Revathi star

 

May be I am being too imaginative.

 

One another thing you might note that the Lagna could be Vrschika or

Dhanus depending on which ayanamsa you use (Lahiri vs Raman). If

you use Raman ayanamsa Moon will move to Meena.

 

If there is any other details you want to help your analysis

further, i can share that.

 

My husband is always tallking about going back to India and setting

up a business. Now that Kethu dasha is about to start. Is this

something i should encourage? Kethu is in the 10th from Moon and

its dispositor Mars is in 8th, retrograde (as per Nadi, i think one

should consider that Mars is in the 7th from Moon?)

 

Thanks once again and best regards to everyone.

 

Lalithahk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In lalkitab , " Nishant A.S. " <nishant_aryan>

wrote:

>

>

>

> Hello Punit ji,

>

> Well you really have an interesting query.

> I read the given chart and I'll try to answer the question using

my

> self gained knowledge , skills, experiences in astrology field.

>

> This chart is one example about the problem which has really

puzzled

> me all through my learning of astrology; that is –

>

> should we consider the lagna kundli or chandra kundli or surya

kundli

> in predicting the timing of events and even the events themselves ?

>

> I had many discussions with expert astrologers , young and

> experienced alike who really were of one opinion that lagna should

be

> given the extreme importance as its changes every two hours while

> chandra remains in one sign for two days, and Surya lagna cant be

> taken anyways.

>

> Well this verdict seemed too superficial to me because I had gone

> through many astrological classics, and also books by eminent

> astrologers of 20 th century & most authentic of them suggested

the

> use of lagna or chandra lagna or surya lagna for analysis of

charts

> by keeping in mind the strength of all three; ie which ever is

> strongest of three lagnas should be given top priority.

>

> In my own horoscope I often get correct results with my chandra

and

> surya lagna for they are both in same sign and this lagna is

stronger

> than my birth lagna. And one more thing, in using this lagna rank

> method I was led by my intuition as well.

>

> Anyways lets come to the problem—

>

> This chart as I said matches with past events correctly when we

> consider the chandra lagna rather than janma lagna/surya lagna ,

as

> chandra lagna is strongest .

>

> So I present my analysis with chandra lagna

>

> native is away from his motherland, this can be easily confirmed

as

> Rahu is in 4 th house(from moon) , now Rahu we all know has nature

of

> separating the native from things governed by the house he

occupies,

> and 4 th governs motherland.

>

> Rahu also governs Muslim countries, this also confirms as native

is

> in UAE, a Muslim countries. Native is undergoing mercury dasha

since

> 1991 and I analyse that he must have left India during mercury

dasha

> as he rules 5 th & 8 th house(of travel) and sitting in 12 th

house

> (of settlement abroad.), mercury mostly gives the results of house

he

> occupies.

>

> Now Rahu is aspecting 8 th & 12 th house and mercury ,and

impeling

> mercury to give these effects.

>

> So its done that we've got the past events matching our analysis,

so

> lets proceed with main question ---

>

> should the native use pictures or items of camels.?

>

> Now I shall use my own knowledge here, Rahu represents deserts and

> Ketu is the carrier of Rahu, Ketu is also the ship who sails over

> seas, so I give my own concept here that camel, the ship of desert

> who helps us to cross the deserts, is signified by Ketu.

>

> Also, Ketu represents all quadrupeds, who are used as pets, so

camel

> must be Ketu's representative(I can offer more explainations on

this

> but length of mail prevents me from doing this).

>

> Ketu is in profession house in sign of Mars, so he is acting as

agent

> of Mars and causes undesirable changes in native's career, undue

> setbacks, delays in results etc.

>

> Now we all know according to jyotish and vaastu ,if some planet is

> affecting us badly then we should remove all things signified by

that

> planet from ous house and also we should not use those things,

thus

> if the native removes the pictures of camel and items made of

camel

> skin etc then he will surely notice a positive change in his

> environment and in his life.

>

> I hope I was able to answer the question satisfactorily according

to

> my limited knowledge.

>

> Sincerely

>

> NISHANT

>

>

>

> > lalkitab , Punit Pandey

> <punitastrologer>

> > wrote:

> > Dear learned members,

> >

> > I came across the following interesting discussion about placing

> > pictures of camels in our homes and its bad effects in certain

> cases.

> >

> > We are living in Saudi Arabia and we are having couple of camel

> > (ship of the desert) things in our house. My husband has Mars

®

> > in Virgo in the eight house from Moon and 11th house from

Lagna.

> He

> > is presently having a tough time in his career. Should we

remove

> > the camel from our home or having camel in a desert country is

good?

> >

> > My husbands details are as under:

> > Place of birth: Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India

> > Date of Birth: 5th Feb 1965

> > Time of birth: 3.07 AM

> >

> > Thanks in advance and best regards

> >

> >

> > > Dear Bhatia Ji & other learned membes,

> > >

> > > Can someone help me in answering last two questions as I have

no

> > idea of lal kitab remedies and I do not want to suggest anything

to

> > anyone with my half knowledge.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

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