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dear friends, thanks for your kind responses.it was good to see that a few responses came in quickly on an otherwise sleepy list;lets hope the trend continues.but alas none went at length to answer point wise and some reacted negatively thus closing doors for fresh thoughts which could have paved way to search more in a scientific and logical manner.a]sh.PUNIT JI, has honestly stated that inspite of having best; a bit remains; ofcourse experience makes the difference but if things remain as mysterious and closed as now the practise of treatise shall not propagate and only quacks shall rule the roost.times have changed one just wont accept it as it was fifty years from now; life has changed so have priorities and problems. even if we take the treatise verbatim the remedies it self will be more stressful than the problem it self; you can see that in a country as vast has india ; society and culture have changed so rapidly; stagnation provides suffocation onlyb)yes sh.dhanda saheb; has come very clean; honestly ;that things are not easy to get as far as treatise is concerned.what more no one on the list seems to know at present ; any 'ONE' who has mastered the treatise and is willing ''unselfishly'' to share the secrets FOR BENEFIT OF SOCIETY at large,and are still looking for ''RAHBER/REHNUMA'' in times when ''RAHZEN'' are at large.List at present seems aimless and direction less for want of an father figure . i pray some kind soul TO KINDLY take pains to devote effort ,time and knowledge to quench the thirst of eager ones.''kar bhala hoga bhala'' ''aakhir bhale ka bhala''b)other response is purely dismal; just taking shelter in the LANGUAGE of book; now who is acting as KOOP -MANDOOK is not difficult to understand. atleast a translation could have been attempted for wider reach pl.those who read the book, know the stanzas in the treatise, but only a few know the ''essence'' ,get your fundas clear ;SIR .make some original contribution; kindly have guts to admit what everyone interested in lalkitab on this list are aiming for -some insight in WORKING of the book not the LANGUAGE.however as per treatise -one who find s fault with the message[MAJMOON] will be biggest helper because''THE ONE'' finds /indicate the shortcomings is a real friend SO I HOPE I HAVE GIVEN A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF STANZA QUOTED and a befitting reply to sh. mandookji.by being ''koop mandook ''[frog who has never been to river] it is the frog who loses ,not the river nor rest of world.WATER AND KNOWLEDGE ARE NEVER TIRED OF FLOWING.BOTH TRAVEL DOWNHILL..both stgnate when no out flow is there and to maintain out flow some inflow has to be there.yes it appears that site is yet to BLOOM but what was the hurry for offering membership; bad salesmanship;atleast a glimpse of knowledge or sevices to be offered could be provided.in age of e-commerce -first impression is almost always the last one and LASTING ONE; something interesting and ORIGINAL has to be there to be of repeat value; points raised in -''RIGHT ON THE BOX'' remain unanswered; i request all those who are SINCERELY interested in this method of astrology tomake it a way of life to take a moment to kindly think about the points raised and try to answer it for themselves atleast.no disrespect is meant to family of the genius author but begining is bad; better take care now or the site shall remain a superficial one ;which shall be bad for every one; especially the seekers of secrets in the book.i repeat one can not bask in reflected glory for long. it is after five decades that there is a chance to get the things in black and white; and this may be the last one to save the practise of this treatise.or we will have to wait for western world to provide initiative as they have done in indian astrology.what an irony that shall be. one who has a golden past and claims so (NO ONE IS REGRETTING THAT );must sincerely attempt to live up to expectations raised in the field chosen or else it tantamounts to hopes belied. few outshine or equal achievements of their ancestors; without sincere effort.

lets pray that presnt generation of author succeds in doing this.

atleast one can try to maintain it.why not reprint an authentic version of lal kitab at first.

once again the points raised in post-RIGHT ON THE BOX are put in brief; hope somebody shall take it positively and answer pointwise.a]why it is taking more than fifty years to publish a book 'rehnuma- e lalkitab' by the present members of family who are practising as claimed since decades the treatise of their forefather ;especially when a lot of books of known and unknown origins were being published and created a bad name for original treatise to the extent that whenever somebody asks any reputed astrologer whether he was practising 'lalkitab' ;pat comes the indignant reply -no only 'VEDIC ASTROLOGY' i dont offer 'TOTKAS' .CERTAINLY FINANCES ARE NOT A PROBLEM FOR DESERVING AUTHORS IN THIS AGE. why to denounce others when one has no credits to self in way of printed work.

B]WHAT IS THE PRINCIPLE THAT REMEDIES GIVEN BY MISJUDGEMENT MAY BACKFIRE? IS IT SOME WITCHCRAFT? or it is like allopathic system of medicine that side effects are 'BOUND' to be there and ARE to be suffered by the ''patient ''and not the ''DOCTOR''who coolly enjoys the booty.AND this MEDICINE MAY CAUSE ADVERSE REACTION ALSO. by god i am totally frightened by now.

C)without taking in consideration the ''TRANSITS'' how THE FUTURE PREDICTIONS can be studied; OR the treatise is only REMEDIAL one on basis of NATAL HOROSCOPE (altered in accordance with natural zodiac)and VARSHPHAL.

D]masnui planets -is there some logic offered or is it to BE ACCEPTED as it is in the treatise.

e] can treatise compete with parashari as far as future trend/predictions are concerned.

f]how one can suffer by going to places of worship or keeping idols of deitys at home?is there a logic or again has to be accepted as it is.g) with the change of times ; in last five decades the society. the culture and way of living has changed; so have problems ; one has to travel for hours to go to find a ''river'' or a ''open nullah'' cremation grounds, open wells, cows have to be tracked down as most have become stray animals; trees like neem and peepal are far away there are more flats than houses . the remedies as suggested for 40days or 43 days that also osne at a time may be more problematic than the problem for which remedy is being taken itselfwhat about followingA]WHY A REMEDY FOR 40 OR 43 DAYS WHY NOT FOR 39 DAYS AND IF THERE IS A BREAK START FROM ONE AGAIN .and that also one at a time ; if some one is seriously ill ; may be''the remedy ''may outlive the person concerned. or is it a safeguard to save face in such conditions that''COMPLETE COURSE'' has not been taken or there was break in the continuity of course .B]EVEN PROVIDING WATER FACILITY FOR PUBLIC MAY BE HARMFUL FOR certain NATIVES.C] ALSO SOME NATIVES MAY GET HARMED IF THEY FUND CONSTRUCTION OF INNS FOR PUBLIC AT LARGE.D]YOUNGER BROTHERS SHOULD NOT PROVIDE FINANCIAL HELP TO MARRY DAUGHTERS OF ELDER BROTHERS;WHO SHALL OWN RESPONSIBILTY OF SUCH CHILDREN IF UNFORTUNATELY FATHER EXPIRES OR IS NOT IN VIABLE FINACIAL CONDITION.E] WHAT A FANCY PALMISTRY IN THE BOOK HAS BEEN USED FOR MAKING OF HOROCOPE ;THUS RAHU 'KETU MAY RESIDE IN A SINGLE HOUSE IN HOROSCOPE ; AND A UNIVERSAL FACT THAT MERCURY AND VENUS REMAIN IN VICINTY OF SUN;ALSO PROVED ASTRONOMICALLY CAN IN THIS TREATISE BE FAR AWAY TO SUN.

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