Chara Dasa OF Iranganti Rangacharya in JHora

April 2, 2008

Namaste Sri Narasimha Garu,

Thank you very much for releasing the recent version of JHora. May

God bless you to continue the great work for the Astrologer

fraternity. I have gonr through the recent version and I was

disappointed for two reasons. Of course, this doesn't let the value

of Jhora down.

Here, I explain the two things I am most concerned. I had already

made these points through this forum in the past. In fact, you have

personally contacted me some time back and I responded to the same.

1. Firstly, As far I know, Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is still alive,

but Info in JHora sounds otherwise. You promised me that you would

correct it in furture release, and that is not happened in the recent

version. Of course, this is not a very big issue.

2. Second one is a big one. As I already reported the " Chara Dasa of

Irnaganti Rangacharya " calculations are not correct always. B'coz the

Chara dasa should be calculated differently for male and female

native. But, JHora doesn't have the option to enter the gender of the

native. This is a big problem. Since, As you know, Sri Rangacharya

follows the commentary of Raghava Bhatta and Nrisimha Suri, the Chara

dasa for female natives starts from 4th house from lagna for odd sign

and 10th house (i.e 4th in anti clockwise) for even sign. For male

natives the starting sign is always the lagna.

For example I am showing below the Chara Dasa Calculations of Smt.

Indira Gandhi accroding to Sri Rangacharya vide his recent book " A

Manual of jaimini Astrology " page no 70.

SNo Rasi Years

---- ----- -------

1 Aries 7

2 Pisces 2

3 Aquarius 7

4 Capricorn 10

5 Saggitarius 7

6 Scorpio 9

7 Libra 10

8 Virgo 2

9 Leo 9

10 Cancer 10

11 Gemini 7

12 Taurus 7

Now, the calculation by JHora using no exceptions and Saturn and Mars

as Stronger lords and no comparision of strength of signs. I used the

above options since Sri Rangacharya never speak of exceptions.

Chara dasa of Iranganti Rangacharya (modified version of a phalita

rasi dasa):

Maha Dasas:

Cn: 1917-11-19 - 1923-11-20 (6 years)

Ge: 1923-11-20 - 1928-11-19 (5 years)

Ta: 1928-11-19 - 1933-11-20 (5 years)

Ar: 1933-11-20 - 1941-11-20 (8 years)

Pi: 1941-11-20 - 1943-11-20 (2 years)

Aq: 1943-11-20 - 1948-11-19 (5 years)

Cp: 1948-11-19 - 1954-11-20 (6 years)

Sg: 1954-11-20 - 1959-11-20 (5 years)

Sc: 1959-11-20 - 1962-11-20 (3 years)

Li: 1962-11-20 - 1972-11-20 (10 years)

Vi: 1972-11-20 - 1974-11-20 (2 years)

Le: 1974-11-20 - 1977-11-20 (3 years)

As you can above, the chara Dasa started from Aries (the 4th in

anticlock) in Sri Rangacharya's calculations instead of Cancer in

JHora.

I briefly explain the procedure adopted by Sri Rangacharya.

For male natives, Sri Rangacharya uses the following procedure.

1. Dasa years are calculated as the count from the sign lord

to dasa sign, clockwise or anti clockwise according to oddity of the

sign. No deduction of one year.

2. Dasas Start always from the lagna.

3. Dasas move clock wise or anti clockwise according to the

odd or even nature of sign respectively.

4. No exaltation and debilitation is considered.

5. Always Saturn and Mars are the lords of Aquarius and

Scorpio respectively.

6. The padakrama order is followed.

7. The Ojapada and Vishama pada is not considered and chara

dasa always start from Lagna and move clockwise or anti clockwise

according to the oddity of lagna , not the pada of 9th sign.

For female natives, Sri Rangacharya uses the following procedure in

addition to above.

1. Deduction of one year from the no of years counted from

the dasa lord to dasa sign as Dasa length.

2. 10 years as Dasa length if the lord of a sign is in 7th

from it.

3. Dasa start from the 4th house from lagna clockwise or anti

clockwise according to oddity of lagna sign.

I learnt from his articles that he again considers the padakrama

order even for the antaradasa calculations,though not explicitly

explained neither in his Sutramritam nor in his recent book.

Where as, we start AD from the sign occupied by the lord of dasa sign

in Narayana Dasas. I checked the Jhora and found Antaradasas start as

in case of Narayana Dasas. Hence, I think the total algorithm form

the calculation need to be changed if it were to be named as " Chara

Dasa By Iranganti Rangacharya " .

I pray GOD to shower blessings on you to continue the great work.

Regards,

Shanmukha

PS: Ofcourse, not connected with the software, I would like to

request our SJC members try to bring the commentaries on Jaimini

Astrology into light. I know most of the manuscripts are now kept

under the custody of Astrological families, but still a few are

available in Govt Oriental Libraries in India. I wish to tell one

experience I faced a couple of months back. I found from one a old

Astrological Magazine that Phala Ratnamala of Somanatha Mishra is

available in printed form at Madras Oriental Library. I went from

Hyderabad to Chennai and found only two copies are available in

torned condition. I could not xerox the book since the curator didn't

permit me. I was not prepared to take Digtal camera with me, I

somehow managed to photograph the book by hiring a normal camera. And

obviously, the photo quality was not good and I am trying to get

photographed by Digital camera and would like to share with others.

As far I know, Kalpalatha by Krishna Misra is avaialble with Sri

Madhira Krishna Murty of Rajahmundry only. Why I tell this is that

these classics are our heritage and we, as Astrologers shall try our

best to bring them to light. I know, SJC is a step ahead of others in

this issue.

April 3, 2008

Namaste,

I programmed Iranganti Ramgacharya's Chara dasa based on my understanding on reading his book.

This is a very loow priority for me and I cannot guarantee when this will be taken care of.

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Shanmukha

jhora

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:18 PM

Chara Dasa OF Iranganti Rangacharya in JHora

Namaste Sri Narasimha Garu,Thank you very much for releasing the recent version of JHora. May God bless you to continue the great work for the Astrologer fraternity. I have gonr through the recent version and I was disappointed for two reasons. Of course, this doesn't let the value of Jhora down.Here, I explain the two things I am most concerned. I had already made these points through this forum in the past. In fact, you have personally contacted me some time back and I responded to the same.1. Firstly, As far I know, Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is still alive, but Info in JHora sounds otherwise. You promised me that you would correct it in furture release, and that is not happened in the recent version. Of course, this is not a very big issue.2. Second one is a big one. As I already reported the "Chara Dasa of Irnaganti Rangacharya" calculations are not correct always. B'coz the Chara dasa should be calculated differently for male and female native. But, JHora doesn't have the option to enter the gender of the native. This is a big problem. Since, As you know, Sri Rangacharya follows the commentary of Raghava Bhatta and Nrisimha Suri, the Chara dasa for female natives starts from 4th house from lagna for odd sign and 10th house (i.e 4th in anti clockwise) for even sign. For male natives the starting sign is always the lagna.For example I am showing below the Chara Dasa Calculations of Smt. Indira Gandhi accroding to Sri Rangacharya vide his recent book "A Manual of jaimini Astrology" page no 70.SNo Rasi Years---- ----- -------1 Aries 72 Pisces 23 Aquarius 74 Capricorn 105 Saggitarius 76 Scorpio 97 Libra 108 Virgo 29 Leo 910 Cancer 1011 Gemini 712 Taurus 7Now, the calculation by JHora using no exceptions and Saturn and Mars as Stronger lords and no comparision of strength of signs. I used the above options since Sri Rangacharya never speak of exceptions.Chara dasa of Iranganti Rangacharya (modified version of a phalita rasi dasa):Maha Dasas:Cn: 1917-11-19 - 1923-11-20 (6 years)Ge: 1923-11-20 - 1928-11-19 (5 years)Ta: 1928-11-19 - 1933-11-20 (5 years)Ar: 1933-11-20 - 1941-11-20 (8 years)Pi: 1941-11-20 - 1943-11-20 (2 years)Aq: 1943-11-20 - 1948-11-19 (5 years)Cp: 1948-11-19 - 1954-11-20 (6 years)Sg: 1954-11-20 - 1959-11-20 (5 years)Sc: 1959-11-20 - 1962-11-20 (3 years)Li: 1962-11-20 - 1972-11-20 (10 years)Vi: 1972-11-20 - 1974-11-20 (2 years)Le: 1974-11-20 - 1977-11-20 (3 years)As you can above, the chara Dasa started from Aries (the 4th in anticlock) in Sri Rangacharya's calculations instead of Cancer in JHora. I briefly explain the procedure adopted by Sri Rangacharya.For male natives, Sri Rangacharya uses the following procedure.1. Dasa years are calculated as the count from the sign lord to dasa sign, clockwise or anti clockwise according to oddity of the sign. No deduction of one year.2. Dasas Start always from the lagna.3. Dasas move clock wise or anti clockwise according to the odd or even nature of sign respectively.4. No exaltation and debilitation is considered.5. Always Saturn and Mars are the lords of Aquarius and Scorpio respectively.6. The padakrama order is followed.7. The Ojapada and Vishama pada is not considered and chara dasa always start from Lagna and move clockwise or anti clockwise according to the oddity of lagna , not the pada of 9th sign.For female natives, Sri Rangacharya uses the following procedure in addition to above.1. Deduction of one year from the no of years counted from the dasa lord to dasa sign as Dasa length.2. 10 years as Dasa length if the lord of a sign is in 7th from it.3. Dasa start from the 4th house from lagna clockwise or anti clockwise according to oddity of lagna sign.I learnt from his articles that he again considers the padakrama order even for the antaradasa calculations,though not explicitly explained neither in his Sutramritam nor in his recent book. Where as, we start AD from the sign occupied by the lord of dasa sign in Narayana Dasas. I checked the Jhora and found Antaradasas start as in case of Narayana Dasas. Hence, I think the total algorithm form the calculation need to be changed if it were to be named as "Chara Dasa By Iranganti Rangacharya".I pray GOD to shower blessings on you to continue the great work.Regards,ShanmukhaPS: Ofcourse, not connected with the software, I would like to request our SJC members try to bring the commentaries on Jaimini Astrology into light. I know most of the manuscripts are now kept under the custody of Astrological families, but still a few are available in Govt Oriental Libraries in India. I wish to tell one experience I faced a couple of months back. I found from one a old Astrological Magazine that Phala Ratnamala of Somanatha Mishra is available in printed form at Madras Oriental Library. I went from Hyderabad to Chennai and found only two copies are available in torned condition. I could not xerox the book since the curator didn't permit me. I was not prepared to take Digtal camera with me, I somehow managed to photograph the book by hiring a normal camera. And obviously, the photo quality was not good and I am trying to get photographed by Digital camera and would like to share with others. As far I know, Kalpalatha by Krishna Misra is avaialble with Sri Madhira Krishna Murty of Rajahmundry only. Why I tell this is that these classics are our heritage and we, as Astrologers shall try our best to bring them to light. I know, SJC is a step ahead of others in this issue.

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