Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Dear Narasimha, I have checked all of the Divisional Amsas. The only two Divisional Chart Amsa rulers listings that I can find that are inconsistent with the attached article and chart are D-27 and D-20 (D-20 covered in two previous emails). I will only discuss D-27 as I gave comments on D-20 in previous postings. The below listing of D-27 Amsa Lords comes from the attached pdf from the Jagannath Centre. It is titled Non-Planetary Lords of the Divisional Charts by Gauranga Das, Sri Jagannath Centre. BPHS from Bookshelf (by Michiel Boender) in regards to D-27 states: Count forward for odd rasis and reverse order for even rasis. Jagannatha Hora 7.02 always counts forward and in many cases lands on an amsa lord that is one later than would be expected from using the listing from this article or the listing in BPHS. I have posted a chart, which will allow you to quickly ascertain this in conjunction with the below listing. In Sanjay Rath's chart the Lagna is in the 13th Division/13 Index. In the below listing Aditya should be the amsa lord if one counts forward, which Jagannatha Hora 7.02 seems to be doing in all cases. The program states that Viswakarma (Thvasta) is the amsa lord, which is one amsa lord later. If one were following BPHS letter for letter (counting backwards for even signs) than Vayu would be the amsa lord. In most cases Jhora 7 counts forward and typically lands on the amsa one later than expected, but in some cases, like Rahu, lands on the one expected. Rahu is in the 24th division and Jhora lists Varuna as does the below listing. Either there is a bug in the program in regards to D-27 or there is another system for generating the amsa lords for D-27. Any response to this inquiry would be much appreciated. With my current information, I will not be using either D-20 (covered in earlier postings) or D-27 for determining amsa lords. I have verified the correct amsa lords in PL, which holds to the rules set down in BPHS. I am open to the possibility that there could be modifications within the Jaimini system, but I am unaware of them at this time. If you would like me to present evidence for the D-20, I would be glad to oblige. It must be noted that I have completely gone through your program and randomly checked in each section of the program for bugs. At this time these two are the only ones that I have found. In some cases, where the calculations would be laborious I have not checked. But as I go through your book, which covers all the calculations, I will be!! If your program were totally bug free, I would have to say that overall it is the best that I have seen. I own PL, SJS, Kala, GJ & Jyotish Studio, so this is quite a compliment!! The other programs do have features that yours does not and vice versa. I feel that yours is better because of its content, focus and design. Best Wishes, Ellis Table 14: Bhamsha Nakshatra Table Nakshatra Name of Deva Purpose 1 Aswini Kumara 2 Bharani Yamaraja 3 Krittika Agni 4 Rohini Brahma 5 Mrigashira Chandra 6 Ardra Rudra 7 Punarvasu Aditi 8 Pushya Brihaspati 9 Asresha Naga 10 Makha Pitara 11 Poorva Bhaga 12 Uttara Phalguni Aryama 13 Hasta Aditya 14 Chitra Thvasta (Viswakarma) 15 Swaati Vayu 16 Vishakha Shakragni 17 Anuradha Mitra 18 Jyestha Indra (Vasava) 19 Moola Nirriti (Rakshasa) 20 Poorva Aashaadha Varuna 21 Uttara Shadha Viswadeva 22 Sravana Govinda 23 Dhanishtha Vasu 24 Shatabisha Varuna 25 Poorva Bhadrapada Ajaekapat (Ajapada) 26 Uttara Bhadrapada Ahirbudhanya 27 Revati Pooshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Ellis, I do think there is a bug in this, As you said Pt. Sanjay Rath's Lagna ruler in D27 is " Arka " which is 13th Nakshatra.But from what i see in the shlokas for the D27 rulers bhAMshAdhipAH kramAddasrayamavahnipitAmahAH | chandreshAditijIvAhipitaro bhagasaMGYitAH || 24|| aryamArkatvashhT.hTamaruchchhakrAgnimitravAsavAH | nirR^ityudakavishve.ajagovindo vasavo.ambupaH || 25|| tato.ajapAdahirbudhnyaH pUshhA chaiva prakIrtitAH | naxatreshAstu bhAMsheshA meshhAdicharabhakramAt.h || 26|| I do not see anything which says reverse the deities for even sign. I hope I dint miss something, Hopefully Narasimhaji will clarify.Warm RegardsSanjay Pà¤à¤¾à¤‚शाधिपाः कà¥à¤°à¤®à¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¦à¤¸à¥à¤°à¤¯à¤®à¤µà¤¹à¥à¤¨à¤¿à¤ªà¤¿à¤¤à¤¾à¤®à¤¹à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¤ चनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¥‡à¤¶à¤¾à¤¦à¤¿à¤¤à¤¿à¤œà¥€à¤µà¤¾à¤¹à¤¿à¤ªà¤¿à¤¤à¤°à¥‹ à¤à¤—संजà¥à¤žà¤¿à¤¤à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¥ २४॥अरà¥à¤¯à¤®à¤¾à¤°à¥à¤•à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤·à¥à¤Ÿà¥â€Œà¤Ÿà¤®à¤°à¥à¤šà¥à¤›à¤•à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤—à¥à¤¨à¤¿à¤®à¤¿à¤¤à¥à¤°à¤µà¤¾à¤¸à¤µà¤¾à¤ƒà¥¤à¤¨à¤¿à¤°à¥ƒà¤¤à¥à¤¯à¥à¤¦à¤•à¤µà¤¿à¤¶à¥à¤µà¥‡à¤½à¤œà¤—ोविनà¥à¤¦à¥‹ वसवोऽमà¥à¤¬à¥à¤ªà¤ƒà¥¥ २५॥ततोऽजपादहिरà¥à¤¬à¥à¤§à¥à¤¨à¥à¤¯à¤ƒ पूषा चैव पà¥à¤°à¤•à¥€à¤°à¥à¤¤à¤¿à¤¤à¤¾à¤ƒà¥¤à¤¨à¤•à¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°à¥‡à¤¶à¤¾à¤¸à¥à¤¤à¥ à¤à¤¾à¤‚शेशा मेषादिचरà¤à¤•à¥à¤°à¤®à¤¾à¤¤à¥â€Œà¥¥ २६॥ bhÄá¹Å›ÄdhipÄḥ kramÄddasrayamavahnipitÄmahÄḥ |candreÅ›ÄditijÄ«vÄhipitaro bhagasaá¹jñitÄḥ || 24||aryamÄrkatvaá¹£á¹á¹amarucchakrÄgnimitravÄsavÄḥ |nirá¹›tyudakaviÅ›ve'jagovindo vasavo'mbupaḥ || 25||tato'japÄdahirbudhnyaḥ pÅ«á¹£Ä caiva prakÄ«rtitÄḥ | naká¹£atreÅ›Ästu bhÄá¹Å›eÅ›Ä meá¹£ÄdicarabhakramÄt || 26|| dasra दसà¥à¤° yama यम vahni वहà¥à¤¨à¤¿ pitÄmaha पितामह candra चनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤° iÅ›a इश aditi अदिति jÄ«va जीव ahi अहि pitaro पितरो bhaga à¤à¤— aryama अरà¥à¤¯à¤® arka अरà¥à¤• tvaá¹£á¹á¹› तà¥à¤µà¤·à¥à¤Ÿà¥ƒ maruta मरà¥à¤¤ Å›akrÄgni शकà¥à¤°à¤¾à¤—à¥à¤¨à¤¿ mitra मितà¥à¤° vÄsava वासव nirá¹›ti निरृति udaka उदक viÅ›ve aja विशà¥à¤µà¥‡ अज govinda गोविनà¥à¤¦ vasava वसव ambupa अमà¥à¤¬à¥à¤ª ajapÄd अजपादॠahirbudhnya अहिरà¥à¤¬à¥à¤§à¥à¤¨à¥à¤¯ pÅ«á¹£Ä à¤ªà¥‚à¤·à¤¾ On 9/29/07, Ellis Gordon <ellisfgordon wrote: Dear Narasimha, I have checked all of the Divisional Amsas. The only two Divisional Chart Amsa rulers listings that I can find that are inconsistent with the attached article and chart are D-27 and D-20 (D-20 covered in two previous emails). I will only discuss D-27 as I gave comments on D-20 in previous postings. The below listing of D-27 Amsa Lords comes from the attached pdf from the Jagannath Centre. It is titled Non-Planetary Lords of the Divisional Charts by Gauranga Das, Sri Jagannath Centre. BPHS from Bookshelf (by Michiel Boender) in regards to D-27 states: Count forward for odd rasis and reverse order for even rasis. Jagannatha Hora 7.02 always counts forward and in many cases lands on an amsa lord that is one later than would be expected from using the listing from this article or the listing in BPHS. I have posted a chart, which will allow you to quickly ascertain this in conjunction with the below listing. In Sanjay Rath's chart the Lagna is in the 13th Division/13 Index. In the below listing Aditya should be the amsa lord if one counts forward, which Jagannatha Hora 7.02 seems to be doing in all cases. The program states that Viswakarma (Thvasta) is the amsa lord, which is one amsa lord later. If one were following BPHS letter for letter (counting backwards for even signs) than Vayu would be the amsa lord. In most cases Jhora 7 counts forward and typically lands on the amsa one later than expected, but in some cases, like Rahu, lands on the one expected. Rahu is in the 24th division and Jhora lists Varuna as does the below listing. Either there is a bug in the program in regards to D-27 or there is another system for generating the amsa lords for D-27. Any response to this inquiry would be much appreciated. With my current information, I will not be using either D-20 (covered in earlier postings) or D-27 for determining amsa lords. I have verified the correct amsa lords in PL, which holds to the rules set down in BPHS. I am open to the possibility that there could be modifications within the Jaimini system, but I am unaware of them at this time. If you would like me to present evidence for the D-20, I would be glad to oblige. It must be noted that I have completely gone through your program and randomly checked in each section of the program for bugs. At this time these two are the only ones that I have found. In some cases, where the calculations would be laborious I have not checked. But as I go through your book, which covers all the calculations, I will be!! If your program were totally bug free, I would have to say that overall it is the best that I have seen. I own PL, SJS, Kala, GJ & Jyotish Studio, so this is quite a compliment!! The other programs do have features that yours does not and vice versa. I feel that yours is better because of its content, focus and design. Best Wishes, Ellis Table 14: Bhamsha Nakshatra Table Nakshatra Name of Deva Purpose 1 Aswini Kumara 2 Bharani Yamaraja 3 Krittika Agni 4 Rohini Brahma 5 Mrigashira Chandra 6 Ardra Rudra 7 Punarvasu Aditi 8 Pushya Brihaspati 9 Asresha Naga 10 Makha Pitara 11 Poorva Bhaga 12 Uttara Phalguni Aryama 13 Hasta Aditya 14 Chitra Thvasta (Viswakarma) 15 Swaati Vayu 16 Vishakha Shakragni 17 Anuradha Mitra 18 Jyestha Indra (Vasava) 19 Moola Nirriti (Rakshasa) 20 Poorva Aashaadha Varuna 21 Uttara Shadha Viswadeva 22 Sravana Govinda 23 Dhanishtha Vasu 24 Shatabisha Varuna 25 Poorva Bhadrapada Ajaekapat (Ajapada) 26 Uttara Bhadrapada Ahirbudhanya 27 Revati Pooshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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