Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Namaste Guruji I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w. How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindly inform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. We generally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of great resource to me. Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Basically charts preparing mehtod is one and the same. Panchang is meant for local pupose of traditional festivals and other things. But " tithi, Nakshtra, Yoga, and Karan " might very a litle as variation of local time. But calculations of horoscope is universal. No matters what system you follow. Only if you go for Solar system i.e.SAYAN method the the difference will be equivalent to AYANAMSHA. But preditions will not vary. The basic reason is that the difference of Ayanamsh wi also reflect in houses calculations. How ever you just prepare one horoscope and submit to group trained people will let you know where you have mistaken or rather how far it is correct. SANT GURUJI jhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote: > > Namaste Guruji > > I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w. > How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindly inform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. We generally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of great resource to me. > > Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dear Shri Guruji Thanks for the earnest reply. example, if a person bron on Jan 1 2007, If i compute through jhora, the horoscope shows that saturn is in LEO, wheras if I give it to my family astrologer who uses vakya panchanga (refering the 'pambu panchangam') he stipulates that saturn is in 'Cancer' sign. Hence I am eager to get chart generated based on vakya, if it is possible, which is said to give more accuracy in predictions. Also I noted some differences in planet positions in navamasa also. Hence the query. Thanking you, with kind regards - Krishnan.Niranjan <niranjanbeloved wrote: Basically charts preparing mehtod is one and the same. Panchang ismeant for local pupose of traditional festivals and other things. But" tithi, Nakshtra, Yoga, and Karan" might very a litle as variation oflocal time. But calculations of horoscope is universal. No matterswhat system you follow. Only if you go for Solar system i.e.SAYANmethod the the difference will be equivalent to AYANAMSHA. Butpreditions will not vary. The basic reason is that the difference ofAyanamsh wi also reflect in houses calculations. How ever you justprepare one horoscope and submit to group trained people will let youknow where you have mistaken or rather how far it is correct.SANT GURUJIjhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote:>> Namaste Guruji> > I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w.> How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindlyinform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. Wegenerally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of greatresource to me.> > Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N> > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerfulemail and get things done faster.> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hello My thinking goes this way. vakya means question.The predictions are made on vakya, that is what you ask (question) In other words it is horary chart. So you are seeing the difference. However you have not given the place of birth and time to exactly tell you which rasi he is born in. As per jan 1 2007 the sign is capricorn- english zodiac name (makara-sanskrit name) bye Jagadish God bless you, Peace Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote: Dear Shri Guruji Thanks for the earnest reply. example, if a person bron on Jan 1 2007, If i compute through jhora, the horoscope shows that saturn is in LEO, wheras if I give it to my family astrologer who uses vakya panchanga (refering the 'pambu panchangam') he stipulates that saturn is in 'Cancer' sign. Hence I am eager to get chart generated based on vakya, if it is possible, which is said to give more accuracy in predictions. Also I noted some differences in planet positions in navamasa also. Hence the query. Thanking you, with kind regards - Krishnan.Niranjan <niranjanbeloved (AT) netscape (DOT) net> wrote: Basically charts preparing mehtod is one and the same. Panchang ismeant for local pupose of traditional festivals and other things. But" tithi, Nakshtra, Yoga, and Karan" might very a litle as variation oflocal time. But calculations of horoscope is universal. No matterswhat system you follow. Only if you go for Solar system i.e.SAYANmethod the the difference will be equivalent to AYANAMSHA. Butpreditions will not vary. The basic reason is that the difference ofAyanamsh wi also reflect in houses calculations. How ever you justprepare one horoscope and submit to group trained people will let youknow where you have mistaken or rather how far it is correct.SANT GURUJIjhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote:>> Namaste Guruji> > I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w.> How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindlyinform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. Wegenerally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of greatresource to me.> > Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N> > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerfulemail and get things done faster.> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Dear Mr.Krishnan, Just ahve a look at the ephemeries of the Jan.1 2007. Bsically if person does calculations there is maximum chanc that he might mistake in multiple calculations, on the other hand if one does calculation with calculator ther wont be any mistake or may be a mistake in minuts and seconds i.e. 1800th part or in 108000th part. which really speaking not so significant thru predictions point of view. As you describe vakya as horary more important to client is not what and how you calculate but how you get him remedial with duely justfied basis. How ever I will bring to your notice some facts that you go thru and find once again thru your study point of view. For the date that you have given, Saturn is in Leo .oo.30.05 at 00.00 GMT. But it is in retrograde so it is reverting. Now mankind can make a mistake of 1.6 percent. There are so may stages of mankind calculations where a single mistake will diflect in magnified error at the end. Basically Speed assumed by or taken for calculation may vary " Panchag to Panchang " Jus ttry to hav elok at various pancahangams in your local area and you will get the answer. It is quite likely that because of retrograde mistake in calculations has resulted to show Saturn in Cancer instead of in Leo. But here I would justify jhora program because it is made availble to all now a days without any Payment so there wont be any pyracy which damamges program and shows wrong results once in while. Oly if any bug is there it would show some wrong calculations but since last one year only once some member of the group could come accross such bug and Honbl. PVR has accepted to rectify it in next version. So you with full trust in Jhora progam can take almost all calculations as granted unless you find basic dicripancy in your calculations and program calculations. As a matter of yor querry you must take Saturn in Leo (retrograde) and proceed accordingly. Thru predictions point of view it wont make much difference of zodiac placement but it would matter as retrograde. Hope that you re satisfied. But sill you can go on inquiring SANT GURUJI jhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote: > > Dear Shri Guruji > > Thanks for the earnest reply. > > example, if a person bron on Jan 1 2007, If i compute through jhora, the horoscope shows that saturn is in LEO, wheras if I give it to my family astrologer who uses vakya panchanga > (refering the 'pambu panchangam') he stipulates that saturn is in 'Cancer' sign. Hence I am eager to get chart generated based on vakya, if it is possible, which is said to give more accuracy in predictions. Also I noted some differences in planet positions in navamasa also. > Hence the query. > > Thanking you, with kind regards - Krishnan. > > Niranjan <niranjanbeloved wrote: > Basically charts preparing mehtod is one and the same. Panchang is > meant for local pupose of traditional festivals and other things. But > " tithi, Nakshtra, Yoga, and Karan " might very a litle as variation of > local time. But calculations of horoscope is universal. No matters > what system you follow. Only if you go for Solar system i.e.SAYAN > method the the difference will be equivalent to AYANAMSHA. But > preditions will not vary. The basic reason is that the difference of > Ayanamsh wi also reflect in houses calculations. How ever you just > prepare one horoscope and submit to group trained people will let you > know where you have mistaken or rather how far it is correct. > > SANT GURUJI > jhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Guruji > > > > I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w. > > How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindly > inform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. We > generally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of great > resource to me. > > > > Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Dear Shri Guruji Thanks for your kind reply. I understand the concept you emphasise. I certainly agree. The Jhora is the best software I come across. What I was asking is just one more option in the ayanamsa calculation 'Vakya' like lahri, raman etc. Just to share my thought, even if rasi chart derived from vakya matches with lahri or raman ayanamsa, it is differing at Navamsa. Esp in an instance as per lahri 'Saturn' is in LEO at Navamsa whereas it is in 'LIBRA', like this for even lagna also, which dramatically changes the outlook I feel. Hence the interpretation also. Thanks for all your detailed reply, With kind regards - Krishnan.NNiranjan <niranjanbeloved wrote: Dear Mr.Krishnan,Just ahve a look at the ephemeries of the Jan.1 2007. Bsically ifperson does calculations there is maximum chanc that he might mistakein multiple calculations, on the other hand if one does calculationwith calculator ther wont be any mistake or may be a mistake in minutsand seconds i.e. 1800th part or in 108000th part. which reallyspeaking not so significant thru predictions point of view. As youdescribe vakya as horary more important to client is not what and howyou calculate but how you get him remedial with duely justfied basis.How ever I will bring to your notice some facts that you go thru andfind once again thru your study point of view.For the date that you have given, Saturn is in Leo .oo.30.05 at 00.00GMT. But it is in retrograde so it is reverting. Now mankind can makea mistake of 1.6 percent. There are so may stages of mankindcalculations where a single mistake will diflect in magnified error atthe end. Basically Speed assumed by or taken for calculation may vary"Panchag to Panchang" Jus ttry to hav elok at various pancahangams inyour local area and you will get the answer. It is quite likely thatbecause of retrograde mistake in calculations has resulted to showSaturn in Cancer instead of in Leo. But here I would justify jhoraprogram because it is made availble to all now a days without anyPayment so there wont be any pyracy which damamges program and showswrong results once in while. Oly if any bug is there it would showsome wrong calculations but since last one year only once some memberof the group could come accross such bug and Honbl. PVR has accepted to rectify it in next version. So you with full trust in Jhora progamcan take almost all calculations as granted unless you find basicdicripancy in your calculations and program calculations. As a matterof yor querry you must take Saturn in Leo (retrograde) and proceedaccordingly. Thru predictions point of view it wont make muchdifference of zodiac placement but it would matter as retrograde.Hope that you re satisfied. But sill you can go on inquiringSANT GURUJIjhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote:>> Dear Shri Guruji> > Thanks for the earnest reply.> > example, if a person bron on Jan 1 2007, If i compute throughjhora, the horoscope shows that saturn is in LEO, wheras if I give itto my family astrologer who uses vakya panchanga > (refering the 'pambu panchangam') he stipulates that saturn is in'Cancer' sign. Hence I am eager to get chart generated based on vakya,if it is possible, which is said to give more accuracy in predictions.Also I noted some differences in planet positions in navamasa also. > Hence the query.> > Thanking you, with kind regards - Krishnan.> > Niranjan <niranjanbeloved wrote:> Basically charts preparing mehtod is one and the same.Panchang is> meant for local pupose of traditional festivals and other things. But> " tithi, Nakshtra, Yoga, and Karan" might very a litle as variation of> local time. But calculations of horoscope is universal. No matters> what system you follow. Only if you go for Solar system i.e.SAYAN> method the the difference will be equivalent to AYANAMSHA. But> preditions will not vary. The basic reason is that the difference of> Ayanamsh wi also reflect in houses calculations. How ever you just> prepare one horoscope and submit to group trained people will let you> know where you have mistaken or rather how far it is correct.> > SANT GURUJI> jhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna@> wrote:> >> > Namaste Guruji> > > > I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w.> > How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindly> inform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. We> generally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of great> resource to me.> > > > Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N> > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful> email and get things done faster.> >> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.> Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dear Shri Guruji Kindly let me know the effect of Neecha Vargottama. Ex: for Sagittarius lagna, Saturn in Mesha getting Neecha. Saturn is also in Mesh in Navamsa. What is it effect. How to interpret? Whether Vargottama cancells the neecha? thanking you - Krishnan.N Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote: Dear Shri Guruji Thanks for the earnest reply. example, if a person bron on Jan 1 2007, If i compute through jhora, the horoscope shows that saturn is in LEO, wheras if I give it to my family astrologer who uses vakya panchanga (refering the 'pambu panchangam') he stipulates that saturn is in 'Cancer' sign. Hence I am eager to get chart generated based on vakya, if it is possible, which is said to give more accuracy in predictions. Also I noted some differences in planet positions in navamasa also. Hence the query. Thanking you, with kind regards - Krishnan.Niranjan <niranjanbeloved (AT) netscape (DOT) net> wrote: Basically charts preparing mehtod is one and the same. Panchang ismeant for local pupose of traditional festivals and other things. But" tithi, Nakshtra, Yoga, and Karan" might very a litle as variation oflocal time. But calculations of horoscope is universal. No matterswhat system you follow. Only if you go for Solar system i.e.SAYANmethod the the difference will be equivalent to AYANAMSHA. Butpreditions will not vary. The basic reason is that the difference ofAyanamsh wi also reflect in houses calculations. How ever you justprepare one horoscope and submit to group trained people will let youknow where you have mistaken or rather how far it is correct.SANT GURUJIjhora , Krishnan N <tnmuralikrishna wrote:>> Namaste Guruji> > I just tried the lite version of jhora s/w.> How to prepare chart based on vakya panchanga. Can you kindlyinform me the procedure for the same. I am a novice to this world. Wegenerally follow vakya panchanga based system. It will be of greatresource to me.> > Awaiting your earnest reply, thanking you - Krishnan.N> > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerfulemail and get things done faster.> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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