Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Namaste JHora Group, I have pointed out a small correction regarding the info on Chara Dasa By Rangacharya, But nobody responded to that. I once again would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP. 1. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is alive. If you look at the quick info window of Chara dasa By Rangacharya, you may find the follwing " Sri Inranganti Rangacharya WAS undoubtedly a great scholor of Sanskrit and Astrology " . Look at the capital letters which indacates He is nomore. I fear I were wrong though 2. The most important one. The Chara dasa of Inrangati Rangacharya calculations by JHora are completely wrong. I hope Sri Narasimha has a copy of " Jaimini Sutramritam " by Sri Rangacharya. If somebody wants what was written in the above text, I can type those two pages for the benefit of the members. The above points were written in good intension. I learnt a new version of JHORA is in preparation, hence the creators may look into those points. I remain, Shanmukha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Shankmukha,>I once again would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP I am not concerned person for Bugs in JHora, I only do voluntary help on small problems in JHora usage. Sri PVR Narasimha needs to look into your matter. Warm RegardsSanjay POn 8/16/06, Shanmukha <teli_sha2002 wrote: Namaste JHora Group, I have pointed out a small correction regarding the info on Chara Dasa By Rangacharya, But nobody responded to that. I once again would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP. 1. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is alive. If you look at the quick info window of Chara dasa By Rangacharya, you may find the follwing " Sri Inranganti Rangacharya WAS undoubtedly a great scholor of Sanskrit and Astrology " . Look at the capital letters which indacates He is nomore. I fear I were wrong though 2. The most important one. The Chara dasa of Inrangati Rangacharya calculations by JHora are completely wrong. I hope Sri Narasimha has a copy of " Jaimini Sutramritam " by Sri Rangacharya. If somebody wants what was written in the above text, I can type those two pages for the benefit of the members. The above points were written in good intension. I learnt a new version of JHORA is in preparation, hence the creators may look into those points. I remain, Shanmukha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Namaskar Sir, (1) I have noted this and will change "was" to "is" in the next version of the software. (2) I do have "Jaimini Sutramrutham" by Iranganti Rangacharya and what I coded in JHora is based on it. If you have a different understanding, you can probably present an example with your calculations and we can then take it from there. Best regards, Narasimha - Shanmukha jhora Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:50 PM Chara Dasa Namaste JHora Group,I have pointed out a small correction regarding the info on Chara Dasa By Rangacharya, But nobody responded to that. I once again would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP.1. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is alive. If you look at the quick info window of Chara dasa By Rangacharya, you may find the follwing"Sri Inranganti Rangacharya WAS undoubtedly a great scholor of Sanskrit and Astrology". Look at the capital letters which indacates He is nomore. I fear I were wrong though2. The most important one. The Chara dasa of Inrangati Rangacharya calculations by JHora are completely wrong. I hope Sri Narasimha has a copy of "Jaimini Sutramritam" by Sri Rangacharya. If somebody wants what was written in the above text, I can type those two pages for the benefit of the members.The above points were written in good intension. I learnt a new version of JHORA is in preparation, hence the creators may look into those points.I remain,Shanmukha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Namste Narasimha, Thanks for responding to my mail. As suggested by you, I will give a detailed example in my next mail. But before that I can give you one example. I take reference to Sri Rangacharya's article " Prospects for the Vajpayee Government - A Jaimini Study " published in 1999 Annual issue of AM. Your article on D-27 was published in the same issue. I that article, he calculated chara dasa for vajpayee swearin-in chart according to Nrisimha Suri method. The data used is 19-03-1998 at 9:33 am At New Delhi, India In his calculation stating Dasa is Taurus for 9 years. The follwing is the chara dasa given by JHora Chara dasa of Iranganti Rangacharya (modified version of a phalita rasi dasa): Maha Dasas: Sc: 1998-03-19 - 2002-03-19 Ge: 2002-03-19 - 2010-03-19 Cp: 2010-03-19 - 2012-03-18 Le: 2012-03-18 - 2019-03-19 Pi: 2019-03-19 - 2020-03-19 Li: 2020-03-19 - 2023-03-19 Ta: 2023-03-19 - 2031-03-19 Sg: 2031-03-19 - 2041-03-19 Cn: 2041-03-19 - 2044-03-19 Aq: 2044-03-19 - 2045-03-19 Vi: 2045-03-19 - 2050-03-19 Ar: 2050-03-19 - 2061-03-19 From the above calculatiuon following points are observed 1.Rangacharya always takes Lagna as starting sign for Chara dasa. He clearly mentioned that Chara Dasa starts from Lagna vide pages 257,259 in his " Jaimini Sutramritam " , Sanskrit and English version. But Jhora takes the stronger of 1st and 7th sign as Starting sign. We can change the settings in Options window, it is a tedious task as we need to set a number of parameters like " no exceptions " , " stronger sign " , " stronger lord " etc. 2.He calculates dasa years from dasa lord to dasa sign and direction depends on oddity of sign. That is if dasa lord is in odd sign count in Zodiacal, anti-zodiacal if dasa lord is in even sign. 3. He calculates 10 years for dasa sign whose lord is in 7th house from it. In the example cited above, as per Sri Rangacharya method, Leo and Virgo dasa get 10 years, where as JHora gives 7 and 5 years respectively. 4. He doesn't seem to take debilitation or exaltation for dasa year calculation, which JHora take s by default. 5. He seems to apply padakrama principle based on oddity of signs, not on the basis of vishama or sama pada rasis. It looks that is follwed in JHora except that 1st and 7th hose condition 6.He ssems to apply padakrama principle to Antara Dasa, Pratyantara Dasa and so on. In JHora ADs start from the dasa occupied by Dasa lord and moves according to the oddity of the sign occupied by lord. I leart the AD calculations from his articles and from a small discussion with his disciple Sri Siva Kumar. 7. One more point I think woth mentioning here. In his Jaimini Sutramritam, Sutra 13 of chapter 2 of Pada 4 is missing which reads as follws in most of the translations in print " Satallabhayo raavartate " Translation By Sanjay Rath : The antardasas commence from sign occupied by the lord of the dasa or seventh from it. Ofcourse the above sutra was taken for Karaka dasa calculations by most of the commentators of both Neelakatha and Raghavabhatta and Nrisimha suri school. I learnt from one Jaimini expert who follows the same Raghavabhatta and Nrisimha Suri method that antara dasa start from the sign occupied by sign lord. 8. The chara dasa calculations depends on the sex of the native. For a male native chara dasa always start from Lagna. For a female native Chara dasa start from 4th from Lagna if Lagna is odd and 10th from Lagna if Lagna is even. The above rule is not supported in JHora as the sex of the native can't be entered. 9. For calculation of dasa years also, the sex of the native comes into play. For male native, counting of dasa years is from dasa lord to dasa sign and direction depends on the oddity of sign occupied by Dasa lord. But for female native, Counting direction depends on oddity of dasa sign. This is clearly mentioned by Rangacharya. But some Jaimini experts who follow the same Raghavabhatta method, dont apply the above rule. Personally I also find the above rule doen't work. 10.He seems to apply couting from Lord to dasa sign both inclusive for male native and Years-1 for female native. And again this is not followed by other experts. I hope the above lines are sufficient to explain my points. I might have missed some points. But anyway I will give one more example afetr your response. I remain, Shanmukha jhora , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaskar Sir, > > (1) I have noted this and will change " was " to " is " in the next version of the software. > > (2) I do have " Jaimini Sutramrutham " by Iranganti Rangacharya and what I coded in JHora is based on it. If you have a different understanding, you can probably present an example with your calculations and we can then take it from there. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > - > Shanmukha > jhora > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:50 PM > Chara Dasa > > > Namaste JHora Group, > I have pointed out a small correction regarding the info on Chara > Dasa By Rangacharya, But nobody responded to that. I once again > would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP. > > 1. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is alive. If you look at the quick info > window of Chara dasa By Rangacharya, you may find the follwing > " Sri Inranganti Rangacharya WAS undoubtedly a great scholor of > Sanskrit and Astrology " . Look at the capital letters which indacates > He is nomore. I fear I were wrong though > > 2. The most important one. The Chara dasa of Inrangati Rangacharya > calculations by JHora are completely wrong. I hope Sri Narasimha > has a copy of " Jaimini Sutramritam " by Sri Rangacharya. If somebody > wants what was written in the above text, I can type those two pages > for the benefit of the members. > > The above points were written in good intension. I learnt a new > version of JHORA is in preparation, hence the creators may look into > those points. > > I remain, > Shanmukha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Namaste Narasimha Ji, It's been almost 10 days since I gave the reply. I received no reply from your end. I request you to kindly look into the points raised by me in the mail and correct me if I were wrong. I remain, Shanmukha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dear Mr. Shanmugham, I think you should have scanned those two page from Iraganty Rangacharya for all of the members of the group as the group is alreadya world wde and many members may ot have such valued books not they may be available in library in other states. So I would request you to load those two pages for additional study purpose of the members. If you want to send it to my individual e-mail address yu cant send iot to niranjanbeloved Niranjan jhora , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvrwrote: > > Namaskar Sir, > > (1) I have noted this and will change " was " to " is " in the next version of the software. > > (2) I do have " Jaimini Sutramrutham " by Iranganti Rangacharya and what I coded in JHora is based on it. If you have a different understanding, you can probably present an example with your calculations and we can then take it from there. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > - > Shanmukha > jhora > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:50 PM > Chara Dasa > > > Namaste JHora Group, > I have pointed out a small correction regarding the info on Chara > Dasa By Rangacharya, But nobody responded to that. I once again > would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP. > > 1. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is alive. If you look at the quick info > window of Chara dasa By Rangacharya, you may find the follwing > " Sri Inranganti Rangacharya WAS undoubtedly a great scholor of > Sanskrit and Astrology " . Look at the capital letters which indacates > He is nomore. I fear I were wrong though > > 2. The most important one. The Chara dasa of Inrangati Rangacharya > calculations by JHora are completely wrong. I hope Sri Narasimha > has a copy of " Jaimini Sutramritam " by Sri Rangacharya. If somebody > wants what was written in the above text, I can type those two pages > for the benefit of the members. > > The above points were written in good intension. I learnt a new > version of JHORA is in preparation, hence the creators may look into > those points. > > I remain, > Shanmukha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Namaste Niranjan, Extremely sorry for this delayed reply. I have been not checking this group frequently, hence I couldn't reply you. Any way I will scan those two pages for the benefit of group in near future. But, for a week or so I will be busy and I promise to do so. By the way I am not " Shanmugham " simly " Shanmukha " a telugu version I remain, Shanmukha jhora , " Niranjan " <niranjanbeloved wrote: > > Dear Mr. Shanmugham, > I think you should have scanned those two page from Iraganty > Rangacharya for all of the members of the group as the group is > alreadya world wde and many members may ot have such valued books > not they may be available in library in other states. So I would > request you to load those two pages for additional study purpose of > the members. If you want to send it to my individual e-mail address > yu cant send iot to niranjanbeloved > > Niranjan > > jhora , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>wrote: > > > > Namaskar Sir, > > > > (1) I have noted this and will change " was " to " is " in the next > version of the software. > > > > (2) I do have " Jaimini Sutramrutham " by Iranganti Rangacharya and > what I coded in JHora is based on it. If you have a different > understanding, you can probably present an example with your > calculations and we can then take it from there. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > - > > Shanmukha > > jhora > > Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:50 PM > > Chara Dasa > > > > > > Namaste JHora Group, > > I have pointed out a small correction regarding the info on > Chara > > Dasa By Rangacharya, But nobody responded to that. I once again > > would like to remind the concerned person like SanjayP. > > > > 1. Sri Iranganti Rangacharya is alive. If you look at the quick > info > > window of Chara dasa By Rangacharya, you may find the follwing > > " Sri Inranganti Rangacharya WAS undoubtedly a great scholor of > > Sanskrit and Astrology " . Look at the capital letters which > indacates > > He is nomore. I fear I were wrong though > > > > 2. The most important one. The Chara dasa of Inrangati > Rangacharya > > calculations by JHora are completely wrong. I hope Sri Narasimha > > has a copy of " Jaimini Sutramritam " by Sri Rangacharya. If > somebody > > wants what was written in the above text, I can type those two > pages > > for the benefit of the members. > > > > The above points were written in good intension. I learnt a new > > version of JHORA is in preparation, hence the creators may look > into > > those points. > > > > I remain, > > Shanmukha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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