Longitude speeds of the planets?

[Guest guest]

Respected programmers,

 

I've got another commercial jyotisa program, but recently I've started to

use mainly JHora because of it's clarity and the accurate calculations. I

really appreciate the fine program and the fact that it's available to

everyone. I think that will greatly further the study of jyotisa, even

globally.

 

There's only one thing I don't understand and that's the longitude speed

calculations. For example now when Sukra is retrogade, I think it's

longitude speed should be negative. Parashara's Light 6.1 gives -0.18

degrees for today's Sukra longitude speed, the western program Solar Fire 6

gives -0.17.55. But JHora gives 1.25 degrees / day. What's this about? Could

it be possible to get the actual daily speed of a planet from JHora and if

so, how?

 

Happy New Year to everyone,

 

Sari Metsovuori

[Guest guest]

Hello Niranjan and thank you for the answer.

 

You wrote:

 

As far as the ephemeris are concerned actual position and visual positions

do differ from each other. So better you go to preferences and set planetary

calculation of you preference. There pr obably you might find the answer of

your puzzling about difference in speed i.e.

 

- I tried the switching, but it changes only a few seconds in the

longitudes and it doesn't affect the " lon speed " menu at all (and this all

is logical of course, because it shouldn't affect it).

 

You wrote:

 

-0.17.55. Here it seems that you have miss interpreted the calculations.

What you read in this program is " 6 Cp.07'16.43 " " this means Venus is

on 6th degree, 07 minutes and 16.43 seconds of Capricorn. The day you sent

this message the Venus is shown on 6th degree,8 minutes and 57. 26 seconds.

(6 Cap.8'57.26 " ) of Capricorn. So it is obvious that you have miss

interpreted the reading the planetary signs in fraction. Actually even this

program show the difference of -0.01.40.50 Venus is retrograde since 24th of

last month. So it is in oscillation. And during oscillation the planet speed

is as good as 0. or rather extremely dead slow.

 

- Yes, I can see that. Now when I'm writing this it's the 2th of January at

12.54 o'clock GMT (0.00) and JHora gives the longitude of Venus as 5 degrees

Capricorn 48'43.89. Tomorrow at 12.54 o'clock GMT Venus will be at 5 degrees

Capricorn 25'21.56. The difference is 0 degrees 23'22.33 and that sould be

the longitude speed as far as I understand. The very reliable western

program Solar Fire gives -0.22 as today's longitude speed for Venus, so

that's pretty close. But JHora says that the Lon Speed of Venus is the usual

1.250 deg/day. So I still don't understand this.

 

But thank you anyway for your efforts.

 

With kindest regards, Sari

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

There indeed is an issue with speeds. I have to figure that out.

 

Narasimha

 

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Sari M.

jhora

Monday, January 02, 2006 8:05 AM

Re: Longitude speeds of the planets?

Hello Niranjan and thank you for the answer.You wrote:As far as the ephemeris are concerned actual position and visual positions do differ from each other. So better you go to preferences and set planetary calculation of you preference. There pr obably you might find the answer of your puzzling about difference in speed i.e.- I tried the switching, but it changes only a few seconds in the longitudes and it doesn't affect the "lon speed" menu at all (and this all is logical of course, because it shouldn't affect it).You wrote:-0.17.55. Here it seems that you have miss interpreted the calculations. What you read in this program is " 6 Cp.07'16.43 this means Venus is on 6th degree, 07 minutes and 16.43 seconds of Capricorn. The day you sent this message the Venus is shown on 6th degree,8 minutes and 57. 26 seconds. (6 Cap.8'57.26" ) of Capricorn. So it is obvious that you have miss interpreted the reading the planetary signs in fraction. Actually even this program show the difference of -0.01.40.50 Venus is retrograde since 24th of last month. So it is in oscillation. And during oscillation the planet speed is as good as 0. or rather extremely dead slow.- Yes, I can see that. Now when I'm writing this it's the 2th of January at 12.54 o'clock GMT (0.00) and JHora gives the longitude of Venus as 5 degrees Capricorn 48'43.89. Tomorrow at 12.54 o'clock GMT Venus will be at 5 degrees Capricorn 25'21.56. The difference is 0 degrees 23'22.33 and that sould be the longitude speed as far as I understand. The very reliable western program Solar Fire gives -0.22 as today's longitude speed for Venus, so that's pretty close. But JHora says that the Lon Speed of Venus is the usual 1.250 deg/day. So I still don't understand this.But thank you anyway for your efforts.With kindest regards, Sari

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr. Sari,

What u say is right. ur observation is too good. I didn't observe it may be because of familiar with planetary progression and here in India Indian Panchang. So issue that you have brought up should be considered on priority basis and pvr has taken the task. I am sure his highness will get the correction mad in programming

Thanks once again

With regards

 

For Shreegauri AssociatesNiranjan Sant

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>jhora Sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:13:43 -0500Re: Longitude speeds of the planets?

 

Dear friends,

 

There indeed is an issue with speeds. I have to figure that out.

 

Narasimha

 

-

Sari M.

jhora

Monday, January 02, 2006 8:05 AM

Re: Longitude speeds of the planets?

Hello Niranjan and thank you for the answer.You wrote:As far as the ephemeris are concerned actual position and visual positions do differ from each other. So better you go to preferences and set planetary calculation of you preference. There pr obably you might find the answer of your puzzling about difference in speed i.e.- I tried the switching, but it changes only a few seconds in the longitudes and it doesn't affect the "lon speed" menu at all (and this all is logical of course, because it shouldn't affect it).You wrote:-0.17.55. Here it seems that you have miss interpreted the calculations. What you read in this program is " 6 Cp.07'16.43 this means Venus is on 6th degree, 07 minutes and 16.43 seconds of Capricorn. The day you sent this message the Venus is shown on 6th degree,8 minutes and 57. 26 seconds. (6 Cap.8'57.26" ) of Capricorn. So it is obvious that you have miss interpreted the reading the planetary signs in fraction. Actually even this program show the difference of -0.01.40.50 Venus is retrograde since 24th of last month. So it is in oscillation. And during oscillation the planet speed is as good as 0. or rather extremely dead slow.- Yes, I can see that. Now when I'm writing this it's the 2th of January at 12.54 o'clock GMT (0.00) and JHora gives the longitude of Venus as 5 degrees Capricorn 48'43.89. Tomorrow at 12.54 o'clock GMT Venus will be at 5 degrees Capricorn 25'21.56. The difference is 0 degrees 23'22.33 and that sould be the longitude speed as far as I understand. The very reliable western program Solar Fire gives -0.22 as today's longitude speed for Venus, so that's pretty close. But JHora says that the Lon Speed of Venus is the usual 1.250 deg/day. So I still don't understand this.But thank you anyway for your efforts.With kindest regards, Sari

 

[Guest guest]

Hi! Mr. Sari

Your observation is correct. Your issue is not the planets' accurate sign but only the title ' longitudinal speed". It is very true that speed is mentioned in degrees which should not have been. It is a mistake in programming and programmer of the jhora, Shri PVR, the highness, has taken the note of it. Keep using this program and connected to this group we shall do much better in astrology and astronomy too

With regards

 

For Shreegauri AssociatesNiranjan Sant

Sari M. <gerdapp (AT) welho (DOT) com>jhora Sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:05:33 +0200Re: Longitude speeds of the planets?

Hello Niranjan and thank you for the answer.You wrote:As far as the ephemeris are concerned actual position and visual positions do differ from each other. So better you go to preferences and set planetary calculation of you preference. There pr obably you might find the answer of your puzzling about difference in speed i.e.- I tried the switching, but it changes only a few seconds in the longitudes and it doesn't affect the "lon speed" menu at all (and this all is logical of course, because it shouldn't affect it).You wrote:-0.17.55. Here it seems that you have miss interpreted the calculations. What you read in this program is " 6 Cp.07'16.43 this means Venus is on 6th degree, 07 minutes and 16.43 seconds of Capricorn. The day you sent this message the Venus is shown on 6th degree,8 minutes and 57. 26 seconds. (6 Cap.8'57.26" ) of Capricorn. So it is obvious that you have miss interpreted the reading the planetary signs in fraction. Actually even this program show the difference of -0.01.40.50 Venus is retrograde since 24th of last month. So it is in oscillation. And during oscillation the planet speed is as good as 0. or rather extremely dead slow.- Yes, I can see that. Now when I'm writing this it's the 2th of January at 12.54 o'clock GMT (0.00) and JHora gives the longitude of Venus as 5 degrees Capricorn 48'43.89. Tomorrow at 12.54 o'clock GMT Venus will be at 5 degrees Capricorn 25'21.56. The difference is 0 degrees 23'22.33 and that sould be the longitude speed as far as I understand. The very reliable western program Solar Fire gives -0.22 as today's longitude speed for Venus, so that's pretty close. But JHora says that the Lon Speed of Venus is the usual 1.250 deg/day. So I still don't understand this.But thank you anyway for your efforts.With kindest regards, Sari

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha and Niranjan,

 

thank you for your kind answers. I'm happy now when the issue is taken under

consideration.

 

There is another little bug I think and it has to do with the " When will

lagna change sign in Navamsa " tool, which in itself is a really smart and

useful feature. But with some birth times it gives obscure results. I have

here for example the 2nd October 1962 at 8.10 PM (EET -2.00 East of GMT),

Helsinki Finland 24E56 60N10 - this is a data of my friend. When I

right-click Navamsa and " When will lagna change sign in Navamsa " , the

program answers: " Lagna changes sign in Navamsa chart, if the birthtime is

23 hr 46 min 14 sec earlier " . Obviously this cannot be true. With most of

the birth times the answer is correct, but sometimes it gives these " 23 hr "

answers. I would be nice, if this would be corrected too.

 

Otherwise, thank you for the fine program!

 

Regards, Sari

[Guest guest]

Dear Sari,

 

Both the bugs have been fixed (speed and 23 hrs). You'll get the fix in the next release.

 

Thanks for reporting these bugs.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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Sari M.

jhora

Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:46 AM

Re: Longitude speeds of the planets?

Dear Narasimha and Niranjan,thank you for your kind answers. I'm happy now when the issue is taken under consideration.There is another little bug I think and it has to do with the "When will lagna change sign in Navamsa" tool, which in itself is a really smart and useful feature. But with some birth times it gives obscure results. I have here for example the 2nd October 1962 at 8.10 PM (EET -2.00 East of GMT), Helsinki Finland 24E56 60N10 - this is a data of my friend. When I right-click Navamsa and "When will lagna change sign in Navamsa", the program answers: "Lagna changes sign in Navamsa chart, if the birthtime is 23 hr 46 min 14 sec earlier". Obviously this cannot be true. With most of the birth times the answer is correct, but sometimes it gives these "23 hr" answers. I would be nice, if this would be corrected too.Otherwise, thank you for the fine program!Regards, Sari

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

 

thank you very much for fixing these bugs!

 

I have one more and the last question. I wonder, have you ever considered,

if i t would be possible to make JHora compatible with Lois Rodden's

AstroDatabank database? It's not an astrology program per se, but a database

containing over 28 000 birth times - both of private persons and

celebrities - collected for research purposes and categorized accorging to

the accuracy of the birth time, profession, personality traits etc. etc. It

works on the basis of Microsoft Access. Here's their site:

http://www.astrodatabank.com/

 

AstroDatabank is a useful program and I use it a lot. It's compatible with

many charting programs, both western and vedic, including one western

freeware. Now when I've started to use mainly JHora, it would be great to

look the AstroDatabank charts straight through it without writing the data

in first. The ADB people say that it needs only a minor alteration to make a

program compatible with theirs one.

Here is their email address: Support

 

Best Regards, Sari

 

 

 

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Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

jhora

Friday, January 06, 2006 4:33 AM

Re: Longitude speeds of the planets?

 

 

Dear Sari,

 

Both the bugs have been fixed (speed and 23 hrs). You'll get the fix in the

next release.

 

Thanks for reporting these bugs.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha