Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 --- On Tue, 29/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 6:50 PM Dear Friends, Recently, Sunil Nair ji put a question for knowing his Nakshatra in the forum. The question was primarily in response to Lajmi ji's email. I responded to the forum based on RP and some other people also responded, mostly based on my RP. We were waiting for Sudhir ji to give his method before we disclose Sunil ji's Nakshtra to the forum. The reason I asked the method because Sunil ji suspected that Sudhir ji is already aware of his Nakshatra. Anyways, I didn't receive any response from Sudhir ji and hence going ahead and disclosing Sunil ji's nakshtra on his behalf. His nakshatra is Anuradha. My observation that his Nakshatra should be of Jupiter or Rahu was incorrect. Sudhir ji's answer was correct, but still we have to see what method he has followed. I'll leave it to the forum for further analysis or discussion. I am also copying an email on my id from Sunil ji - START OF EMAIL Dear Punit Ji namaskar That dictum i tried it long back and discarded too as the possiblity is trine moon lagna shud arrive during prashna and the chance is less ( means Nkshtra or anu janma nasktra can rise in trines only .again to get same Nakshtra degree will make chances 1/13 per day .so u can see the success rate will b less than 10 % but if astrologer is a yogi and has lot of blessing of his guru and deities ppl will approach him only in that kind of lagna Note that no one was as successful like KP reason he born in abhijit Muhurtha and abhijit nakshtra and his devotion to sastra and his deity is helping him i am not reducing him ,but it is true with all savants BV raman w as highly succesful in predictions but how many of his students or even kids was at least 10 % of his strtata sure Raman was more into very very complkicated political and raja prashna s ( palace astrology ) than individual charts i blv another thing in prashna is prashna means question ,so it is not a challenge the nativ shud approach the astrologer with strong desire to know the truth than some one knows his nasktra and simply Joking with pundit ji just to waist his time or mock him cannot come under prashna . another thing is astrologer need not answer every one ,so he shud see the intention first and if it is worth his knowledge to help some one only needs answer question with evil intention ( Like what is longitivity of my father -son is waiting for father to die and aquuire large estates and then he will b a cause of sorrow to rest of the kids ) i know u r not a conservativ kind ,so there is a method to Know birth nakshtra and it is mentioned in prashna maarga ( BV Raman also trnaslated it ) Multiply the expired portion (in ghatis) of the Navamsa occupied by the Moon by 9, divide the product by 27. The remainder counted from Aswini gives the Janma Nakshatra (or the birth star). The birth star can also be obtained by treating the ascendant at the time of query likewise. i find it is working in most of the cases and i take frm moon only than lagna .( but if moon is weak i take lagna too ) also other Nimittas and Lakshana s will help the nativ END OF EMAIL Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Punit <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Dear Sudhir ji, > > Please explain how you reached to Anuradha? Saturn is not there even in my > RP list. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "sudhir" > <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote: > > > > Anuraadha > > > > - > > Punit Pandey > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:07 PM > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji, > > > > I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences > in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on > learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as > follows - > > > > 27/09/2009 > > Time: 12:54 PM IST > > Place: Agra > > > > RP > > DL: SUN > > ASC: JUP-KET > > MON: JUP-VEN > > > > As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra > lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent > to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for > sure. > > > > Please tell what was your nakshatra. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Yogesh Ji > > > > Namaskar > > > > thanks for ur post > > > > can u tell me my birth star > > > > My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my > details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur > exercise ) > > > > horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way ) > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > PS > > > > this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov > that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands > > > > > > My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and > sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is > astrology irrespectiv of system one uses ) > > > > --- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> > > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > Cc: "Sunil Nair" <astro_tellerkerala > > Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM > > > > > > Dear Mr.Nair, > > I had an interesting conversation with one of your > > vociferous oponents" of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or > something... ..you will know for sure his correct ID... > > This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained > the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got > it wrong even after 3 attemopts... ! > > There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth > or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if > ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me > his Birth details,TOB, DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... > ! > > It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! ! > > Yogesh Lajmi. 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Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Dear Members, Regarding Sh Yogesh ji's mail, I never challenged him in first run, secondly I am not opponent of KP anyway. Actually he contacted me and I just thought since it has happened naturally without any plan, why shall not test the theory again and asked Sh Yogesh ji to tell me my birth star. At that time Mercury was prominent and my birth star lord is not Mercury but Mars. And I did not run away from discussion as he has writte, My internet connection got lost and our chat was finished abruptly. I told him the same next day during chat which again got disconnected due to link problem. Anyway, this also leaves me with another confusion. Did his outcome with Horary chart using KP that I was lying also lacks in theory. regds Dev , Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Punit Pandey <punitp > Re: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 6:50 PM > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Recently, Sunil Nair ji put a question for knowing his Nakshatra in the > > forum. The question was primarily in response to Lajmi ji's email. I > > responded to the forum based on RP and some other people also responded, > > mostly based on my RP. > > > We were waiting for Sudhir ji to give his method before we disclose Sunil > > ji's Nakshtra to the forum. The reason I asked the method because Sunil ji > > suspected that Sudhir ji is already aware of his Nakshatra. Anyways, I > > didn't receive any response from Sudhir ji and hence going ahead and > > disclosing Sunil ji's nakshtra on his behalf. His nakshatra is Anuradha. > > > My observation that his Nakshatra should be of Jupiter or Rahu was > > incorrect. Sudhir ji's answer was correct, but still we have to see what > > method he has followed. I'll leave it to the forum for further analysis or > > discussion. > > > I am also copying an email on my id from Sunil ji - > > > START OF EMAIL > > > Dear Punit Ji > > > namaskar > > > That dictum i tried it long back and discarded too as the possiblity is trine moon lagna shud arrive during prashna and the chance is less ( means Nkshtra or anu janma nasktra can rise in trines only .again to get same Nakshtra degree will make chances 1/13 per day .so u can see the success rate will b less than 10 % > > > but if astrologer is a yogi and has lot of blessing of his guru and deities ppl will approach him only in that kind of lagna > > > Note that no one was as successful like KP > > > reason he born in abhijit Muhurtha and abhijit nakshtra and his devotion to sastra and his deity is helping him > > i am not reducing him ,but it is true with all savants > > > BV raman w as highly succesful in predictions but how many of his students or even kids was at least 10 % of his strtata > > > sure Raman was more into very very complkicated political and raja prashna s ( palace astrology ) than individual charts i blv > > > another thing in prashna is prashna means question ,so it is not a challenge > > > the nativ shud approach the astrologer with strong desire to know the truth than some one knows his nasktra and simply Joking with pundit ji just to waist his time or mock him cannot come under prashna . > > > another thing is astrologer need not answer every one ,so he shud see the intention first and if it is worth his knowledge to help some one only needs answer > > > question with evil intention ( Like what is longitivity of my father -son is waiting for father to die and aquuire large estates and then he will b a cause of sorrow to rest of the kids ) > > > i know u r not a conservativ kind ,so there is a method to Know birth nakshtra and it is mentioned in prashna maarga ( BV Raman also trnaslated it ) > > > Multiply the expired portion (in ghatis) of the Navamsa occupied by the Moon by 9, divide the product by 27. The remainder counted from Aswini gives the Janma Nakshatra (or the birth star). The birth star can also be obtained by treating the ascendant at the time of query likewise. > > > i find it is working in most of the cases and i take frm moon only than lagna ..( but if moon is weak i take lagna too ) > > > also other Nimittas and Lakshana s will help the nativ > > > END OF EMAIL > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Punit Pandey > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Punit <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sudhir ji, > > > > > > Please explain how you reached to Anuradha? Saturn is not there even in my > > > RP list. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, " sudhir " > > > <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Anuraadha > > > > > > > > - > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:07 PM > > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji, > > > > > > > > I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences > > > in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on > > > learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as > > > follows - > > > > > > > > 27/09/2009 > > > > Time: 12:54 PM IST > > > > Place: Agra > > > > > > > > RP > > > > DL: SUN > > > > ASC: JUP-KET > > > > MON: JUP-VEN > > > > > > > > As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra > > > lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent > > > to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for > > > sure. > > > > > > > > Please tell what was your nakshatra. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Yogesh Ji > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > thanks for ur post > > > > > > > > can u tell me my birth star > > > > > > > > My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my > > > details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur > > > exercise ) > > > > > > > > horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > PS > > > > > > > > this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov > > > that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands > > > > > > > > > > > > My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and > > > sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is > > > astrology irrespectiv of system one uses ) > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> > > > > > > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > > > > > Cc: " Sunil Nair " <astro_tellerkerala > > > > Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Nair, > > > > I had an interesting conversation with one of your > > > > vociferous oponents " of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or > > > something... ..you will know for sure his correct ID... > > > > This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained > > > the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got > > > it wrong even after 3 attemopts... ! > > > > There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth > > > or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if > > > ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me > > > his Birth details,TOB, DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... > > > ! > > > > It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! ! > > > > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, send attachments up to 25MB with India Mail. 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Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Dear Punit jiI am very sorry to say that all members are very learned fellows in their own field doesn't matter who follows which system , purpose is we have to sere the astrology and and it is occult science, but should not challenge any one or any way.Basically I am chemist ( PhD in Medicinal chemistry) , if some one tell us new routes or new methodology, very humbly we accept it, so why India is number one in drug synthesis.I know in both forum have learned persons, but personally I am to surprise to see their attitude for other members.with regardsDr Mishra--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Fw: Re: Re: QUIZ (what is my nakshtra ) Received: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 2:08 PM --- On Tue, 29/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comTuesday, 29 September, 2009, 6:50 PM Dear Friends, Recently, Sunil Nair ji put a question for knowing his Nakshatra in the forum. The question was primarily in response to Lajmi ji's email. I responded to the forum based on RP and some other people also responded, mostly based on my RP. We were waiting for Sudhir ji to give his method before we disclose Sunil ji's Nakshtra to the forum. The reason I asked the method because Sunil ji suspected that Sudhir ji is already aware of his Nakshatra. Anyways, I didn't receive any response from Sudhir ji and hence going ahead and disclosing Sunil ji's nakshtra on his behalf. His nakshatra is Anuradha. My observation that his Nakshatra should be of Jupiter or Rahu was incorrect. Sudhir ji's answer was correct, but still we have to see what method he has followed. I'll leave it to the forum for further analysis or discussion. I am also copying an email on my id from Sunil ji - START OF EMAIL Dear Punit Ji namaskar That dictum i tried it long back and discarded too as the possiblity is trine moon lagna shud arrive during prashna and the chance is less ( means Nkshtra or anu janma nasktra can rise in trines only .again to get same Nakshtra degree will make chances 1/13 per day .so u can see the success rate will b less than 10 % but if astrologer is a yogi and has lot of blessing of his guru and deities ppl will approach him only in that kind of lagna Note that no one was as successful like KP reason he born in abhijit Muhurtha and abhijit nakshtra and his devotion to sastra and his deity is helping him i am not reducing him ,but it is true with all savants BV raman w as highly succesful in predictions but how many of his students or even kids was at least 10 % of his strtata sure Raman was more into very very complkicated political and raja prashna s ( palace astrology ) than individual charts i blv another thing in prashna is prashna means question ,so it is not a challenge the nativ shud approach the astrologer with strong desire to know the truth than some one knows his nasktra and simply Joking with pundit ji just to waist his time or mock him cannot come under prashna . another thing is astrologer need not answer every one ,so he shud see the intention first and if it is worth his knowledge to help some one only needs answer question with evil intention ( Like what is longitivity of my father -son is waiting for father to die and aquuire large estates and then he will b a cause of sorrow to rest of the kids ) i know u r not a conservativ kind ,so there is a method to Know birth nakshtra and it is mentioned in prashna maarga ( BV Raman also trnaslated it ) Multiply the expired portion (in ghatis) of the Navamsa occupied by the Moon by 9, divide the product by 27. The remainder counted from Aswini gives the Janma Nakshatra (or the birth star). The birth star can also be obtained by treating the ascendant at the time of query likewise. i find it is working in most of the cases and i take frm moon only than lagna .( but if moon is weak i take lagna too ) also other Nimittas and Lakshana s will help the nativ END OF EMAIL Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Punit <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Dear Sudhir ji, > > Please explain how you reached to Anuradha? Saturn is not there even in my > RP list. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, "sudhir" > <taurus.sudhir@ ...> wrote: > > > > Anuraadha > > > > - > > Punit Pandey > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:07 PM > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji/ Lajmi ji, > > > > I can see that the challenges are coming out due to some bad experiences > in the past. I would request everyone to keep it aside and focus on > learning. Anyways, to find out Sunil ji's nakshatra, I checked the RP as > follows - > > > > 27/09/2009 > > Time: 12:54 PM IST > > Place: Agra > > > > RP > > DL: SUN > > ASC: JUP-KET > > MON: JUP-VEN > > > > As Jupiter is a strong RP, I would say that Jupiter is your Nakshatra > lord. Rahu is now a days transiting with Jupiter and hence act as an agent > to Jupiter, so Rahu can be another possibility. You seems Jupiterian for > sure. > > > > Please tell what was your nakshatra. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Yogesh Ji > > > > Namaskar > > > > thanks for ur post > > > > can u tell me my birth star > > > > My birth star is known to few KP forumites and i will defenitly post u my > details to u in person as i hav aversion for revealing it in grps ( after ur > exercise ) > > > > horary Numbr in case u want its 121 ( if u required it any way ) > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > PS > > > > this is not to test wheter Kp system is wrong or correct but to proov > that if a person is able ,effient every system will b safe in his hands > > > > > > My humble opinion is that astrologer shud not go and challenge others and > sure shud not run away too frm showing the merits of his sastra ( here it is > astrology irrespectiv of system one uses ) > > > > --- On Sun, 27/9/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> > > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > Cc: "Sunil Nair" <astro_tellerkerala > > Sunday, 27 September, 2009, 12:11 PM > > > > > > Dear Mr.Nair, > > I had an interesting conversation with one of your > > vociferous oponents" of K.P., one going by the ID aplex or > something... ..you will know for sure his correct ID... > > This morning he challenged me to tell him his Birth star,so I explained > the K.P. method to him and asked him to try it out...he reploe that he got > it wrong even after 3 attemopts... ! > > There is a K.P.. method to find out whether a person is telling thetruth > or lies...the s/l of the IIIrd cusp of the horary chart at the moment if > ruled by Sat he is lying...hence I challenged him and asked him to give me > his Birth details,TOB, DOB and POB...and he has refuse and simly RUN AWAY... > ! > > It is for you to judge... so much for chalenges... ! ! > > Yogesh Lajmi. 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