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Dear Gopi Ji I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrology)> statement.Everything written about the statement is> imagination/interpretation etc etc.> One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> gopi.> , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> and> > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> poorva> > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> must> > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> .> > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> Mars> > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> >> > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> all> > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> would> > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> resultant> > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> hard> > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> is> > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > spiritual.> >> > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> pains> > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> and> > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> one> > will receive, and nothing more.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> You> > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> Yoga> > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> Babaji.> > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > that> > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> all> > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> but> > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > done actually ?> > >> > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > >> > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > and> > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > >> > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> or> > Om> > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> no> > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > humble.> > >> > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > really truthful to the cause.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> you> > > have> > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > house> > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > had> > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > >> > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > august> > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > ordinary> > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > >> > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> Rajyoga-dear> > > > Gopi> > > > > Jee> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > much.Pl> > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > this> > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> yogananda> > > > since> > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> be> > > due> > > > to> > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > well.> > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunilnair ji,For long i never looked at jup and mer as badhakas.Only after personal experience and also studying fewmore charts closely I started believing in it.Sri B.V.Raman used to discuss badhaka as well.Sri KNRji also discuss badhaka/maraka if i am not wrong.Any way jup in my case is not just a badhaka but maraka aswell by being 7th lord.Ofcourse i do have enough other factors aswell as far as career is concerned but jup and sat are playing major role as major planets in their periods as you can also see from the feedback i have given you......Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > Dear Gopi Ji> > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts> and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not> hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply> clinging with such one liners> > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it> will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc> working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of> seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and results one's> own karma done after taken the present birth )> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some> tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is> not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot> changed ( i mean our fate )> > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher> educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children> to fate and sits carelessly> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrology)> > statement.Everything written about the statement is> > imagination/interpretation etc etc.> > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can> talk> > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > gopi.> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > and> > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > poorva> > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > must> > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed> kindly> > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from> family> > .> > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > Mars> > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > >> > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > all> > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > would> > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > resultant> > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > hard> > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th.> Rahu> > is> > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material> and> > > spiritual.> > >> > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment .> remember> > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > pains> > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > and> > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > one> > > will receive, and nothing more.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > You> > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > Yoga> > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you> know> > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru> Shri> > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > Babaji.> > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by> saying> > > that> > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > all> > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > but> > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must> be> > > > done actually ?> > > >> > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above> ?> > > >> > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K> S> > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term> as> > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe> ji,> > > and> > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as> having> > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > >> > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15> Years> > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > or> > > Om> > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you> have> > no> > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > humble.> > > >> > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > you> > > > have> > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my> 2nd> > > > house> > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom> i> > > had> > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of> Shri> > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > august> > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > ordinary> > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > >> > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > Jee> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > much.Pl> > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj> ji> > > > this> > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > yogananda> > > > > since> > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > be> > > > due> > > > > to> > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord> as> > > > well.> > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi Ji thanks for ur own justifications which came tru exprnce and following many many masters But i can only say we hav to study more and refine it .Tho i read some books and artciles of respectiv scholars i dont know they were also using such concepts Unless we giv weightage to all other factors ( leaving aside one concept which is under scrutiny )we r not sure abt any concepts ,even i doubt if there is any textual support for this unless in UK this may b possible ( uttarkalamrita may b ) rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Sunilnair ji,> For long i never looked at jup and mer as badhakas.Only after personal> experience and also studying fewmore charts closely I started believing> in it.Sri B.V.Raman used to discuss badhaka as well.Sri KNRji also> discuss badhaka/maraka if i am not wrong.Any way jup in my case is not> just a badhaka but maraka aswell by being 7th lord.> Ofcourse i do have enough other factors aswell as far as career is> concerned but jup and sat are playing major role as major planets in> their periods as you can also see from the feedback i have given> you......> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Gopi Ji> >> > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts> > and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> >> > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may> Not> > hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we> simply> > clinging with such one liners> >> > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it> > will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc> > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of> > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and results> one's> > own karma done after taken the present birth )> >> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some> > tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is> > not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> >> > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which> cannot> > changed ( i mean our fate )> >> > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher> > educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their> children> > to fate and sits carelessly> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> subjective(astrology)> > > statement.Everything written about the statement is> > > imagination/interpretation etc etc.> > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> speach(note> > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can> > talk> > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > gopi.> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd> house,> > > and> > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > > poorva> > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life> as> > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > > must> > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed> > kindly> > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from> > family> > > .> > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > > Mars> > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> unnecessarily.> > > >> > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag> for> > > all> > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > > would> > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > resultant> > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression> in> > > hard> > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th.> > Rahu> > > is> > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material> > and> > > > spiritual.> > > >> > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one> must> > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment .> > remember> > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > > pains> > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just> show> > > and> > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures> which> > > one> > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is> in.> > > You> > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing> Kriya> > > Yoga> > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you> > know> > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru> > Shri> > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > > Babaji.> > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by> > saying> > > > that> > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying> that> > > all> > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> uniqueness> > > but> > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must> > be> > > > > done actually ?> > > > >> > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with> above> > ?> > > > >> > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri> K> > S> > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the> term> > as> > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe> > ji,> > > > and> > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as> > having> > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15> > Years> > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> energisations> > > or> > > > Om> > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you> > have> > > no> > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > > humble.> > > > >> > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you> are> > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> anything> > > you> > > > > have> > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my> > 2nd> > > > > house> > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one> whom> > i> > > > had> > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of> > Shri> > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > > august> > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as> most> > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> etc.Manoj> > ji> > > > > this> > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > yogananda> > > > > > since> > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta> etc,may> > > be> > > > > due> > > > > > to> > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord> > as> > > > > well.> > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunil nair ji,you are right.We have to study more and more charts closely for sure.I read UK but cant remember if it is mentioned there.If we read more we tend to forget which one is from where and my memory is not good enough.Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopi Ji> > thanks for ur own justifications which came tru exprnce and following> many many masters> > But i can only say we hav to study more and refine it .Tho i read some> books and artciles of respectiv scholars i dont know they were also> using such concepts> > Unless we giv weightage to all other factors ( leaving aside one concept> which is under scrutiny )we r not sure abt any concepts ,even i doubt if> there is any textual support for this unless in UK this may b possible (> uttarkalamrita may b )> > > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > For long i never looked at jup and mer as badhakas.Only after personal> > experience and also studying fewmore charts closely I started> believing> > in it.Sri B.V.Raman used to discuss badhaka as well.Sri KNRji also> > discuss badhaka/maraka if i am not wrong.Any way jup in my case is not> > just a badhaka but maraka aswell by being 7th lord.> > Ofcourse i do have enough other factors aswell as far as career is> > concerned but jup and sat are playing major role as major planets in> > their periods as you can also see from the feedback i have given> > you......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopi Ji> > >> > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal> charts> > > and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > >> > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may> > Not> > > hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we> > simply> > > clinging with such one liners> > >> > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it> > > will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc> > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of> > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and results> > one's> > > own karma done after taken the present birth )> > >> > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some> > > tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it> is> > > not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> > >> > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which> > cannot> > > changed ( i mean our fate )> > >> > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga> s/higher> > > educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their> > children> > > to fate and sits carelessly> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> > subjective(astrology)> > > > statement.Everything written about the statement is> > > > imagination/interpretation etc etc.> > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> > speach(note> > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can> > > talk> > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by> badhaka> > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > gopi.> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd> > house,> > > > and> > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > > > poorva> > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present> Life> > as> > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas.> Why> > > > must> > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed> > > kindly> > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from> > > family> > > > .> > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like> Saturn,> > > > Mars> > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> > unnecessarily.> > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag> > for> > > > all> > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense> one> > > > would> > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > > resultant> > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression> > in> > > > hard> > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th.> > > Rahu> > > > is> > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both> material> > > and> > > > > spiritual.> > > > >> > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one> > must> > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment .> > > remember> > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award> us> > > > pains> > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just> > show> > > > and> > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures> > which> > > > one> > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is> > in.> > > > You> > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing> > Kriya> > > > Yoga> > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure> you> > > know> > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His> guru> > > Shri> > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > > > Babaji.> > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by> > > saying> > > > > that> > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying> > that> > > > all> > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> > uniqueness> > > > but> > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as> must> > > be> > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with> > above> > > ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer> Shri> > K> > > S> > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the> > term> > > as> > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri> kasbe> > > ji,> > > > > and> > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as> > > having> > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > > >> > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15> > > Years> > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to> this> > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> > energisations> > > > or> > > > > Om> > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you> > > have> > > > no> > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and> unnecessary> > > > > humble.> > > > > >> > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you> > are> > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> > anything> > > > you> > > > > > have> > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in> my> > > 2nd> > > > > > house> > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one> > whom> > > i> > > > > had> > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made> me> > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of> > > Shri> > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in> this> > > > > august> > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as> > most> > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like> very> > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> > etc.Manoj> > > ji> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > > yogananda> > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta> > etc,may> > > > be> > > > > > due> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th> lord> > > as> > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi JI sure , But a joint collectiv efforts r required to unearth and proov such dust covered dictums and its applicablity in real and practical sense .rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Sunil nair ji,> you are right.We have to study more and more charts closely for sure.I> read UK but cant remember if it is mentioned there.If we read more we> tend to forget which one is from where and my memory is not good enough.> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Gopi Ji> >> > thanks for ur own justifications which came tru exprnce and following> > many many masters> >> > But i can only say we hav to study more and refine it .Tho i read some> > books and artciles of respectiv scholars i dont know they were also> > using such concepts> >> > Unless we giv weightage to all other factors ( leaving aside one> concept> > which is under scrutiny )we r not sure abt any concepts ,even i doubt> if> > there is any textual support for this unless in UK this may b possible> (> > uttarkalamrita may b )> >> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > For long i never looked at jup and mer as badhakas.Only after> personal> > > experience and also studying fewmore charts closely I started> > believing> > > in it.Sri B.V.Raman used to discuss badhaka as well.Sri KNRji also> > > discuss badhaka/maraka if i am not wrong.Any way jup in my case is> not> > > just a badhaka but maraka aswell by being 7th lord.> > > Ofcourse i do have enough other factors aswell as far as career is> > > concerned but jup and sat are playing major role as major planets in> > > their periods as you can also see from the feedback i have given> > > you......> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > ,> "astro_tellerkerala"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > >> > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal> > charts> > > > and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > >> > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u> may> > > Not> > > > hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we> > > simply> > > > clinging with such one liners> > > >> > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as> it> > > > will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc> > > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time> of> > > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and results> > > one's> > > > own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > >> > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or> some> > > > tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it> > is> > > > not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> > > >> > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which> > > cannot> > > > changed ( i mean our fate )> > > >> > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga> > s/higher> > > > educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their> > > children> > > > to fate and sits carelessly> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> > > subjective(astrology)> > > > > statement.Everything written about the statement is> > > > > imagination/interpretation etc etc.> > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> > > speach(note> > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY> can> > > > talk> > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by> > badhaka> > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > > gopi.> > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd> > > house,> > > > > and> > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but> ones> > > > > poorva> > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present> > Life> > > as> > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas.> > Why> > > > > must> > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed> > > > kindly> > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in> Your> > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from> > > > family> > > > > .> > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like> > Saturn,> > > > > Mars> > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> > > unnecessarily.> > > > > >> > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching> bag> > > for> > > > > all> > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense> > one> > > > > would> > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > > > resultant> > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the> agression> > > in> > > > > hard> > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural> 10th.> > > > Rahu> > > > > is> > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both> > material> > > > and> > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > >> > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one> > > must> > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment .> > > > remember> > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award> > us> > > > > pains> > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets> just> > > show> > > > > and> > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures> > > which> > > > > one> > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he> is> > > in.> > > > > You> > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing> > > Kriya> > > > > Yoga> > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure> > you> > > > know> > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His> > guru> > > > Shri> > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru> Shri> > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by> > > > saying> > > > > > that> > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying> > > that> > > > > all> > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> > > uniqueness> > > > > but> > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as> > must> > > > be> > > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with> > > above> > > > ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer> > Shri> > > K> > > > S> > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the> > > term> > > > as> > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri> > kasbe> > > > ji,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as> > > > having> > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never> allow> > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last> 15> > > > Years> > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to> > this> > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> > > energisations> > > > > or> > > > > > Om> > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this,> you> > > > have> > > > > no> > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and> > unnecessary> > > > > > humble.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if> you> > > are> > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> > > anything> > > > > you> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat> in> > my> > > > 2nd> > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one> > > whom> > > > i> > > > > > had> > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and> made> > me> > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises> of> > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in> > this> > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as> > > most> > > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like> > very> > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> > > etc.Manoj> > > > ji> > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta> > > etc,may> > > > > be> > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th> > lord> > > > as> > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Dear Gopi JI

>

> sure , But a joint collectiv efforts r required to unearth and proov

> such dust covered dictums and its applicablity in real and practical

> sense .

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> , " gopalakrishna "

> <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil nair ji,

> > you are right.We have to study more and more charts closely for sure.I

> > read UK but cant remember if it is mentioned there.If we read more we

> > tend to forget which one is from where and my memory is not good

> enough.

> > Love and regards,

> > gopi.

> > , " astro_tellerkerala "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji

> > >

> > > thanks for ur own justifications which came tru exprnce and

> following

> > > many many masters

> > >

> > > But i can only say we hav to study more and refine it .Tho i read

> some

> > > books and artciles of respectiv scholars i dont know they were also

> > > using such concepts

> > >

> > > Unless we giv weightage to all other factors ( leaving aside one

> > concept

> > > which is under scrutiny )we r not sure abt any concepts ,even i

> doubt

> > if

> > > there is any textual support for this unless in UK this may b

> possible

> > (

> > > uttarkalamrita may b )

> > >

> > >

> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,

> > > > For long i never looked at jup and mer as badhakas.Only after

> > personal

> > > > experience and also studying fewmore charts closely I started

> > > believing

> > > > in it.Sri B.V.Raman used to discuss badhaka as well.Sri KNRji also

> > > > discuss badhaka/maraka if i am not wrong.Any way jup in my case is

> > not

> > > > just a badhaka but maraka aswell by being 7th lord.

> > > > Ofcourse i do have enough other factors aswell as far as career is

> > > > concerned but jup and sat are playing major role as major planets

> in

> > > > their periods as you can also see from the feedback i have given

> > > > you......

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > gopi.

> > > > ,

> > " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal

> > > charts

> > > > > and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums

> > > > >

> > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u

> > may

> > > > Not

> > > > > hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we

> > > > simply

> > > > > clinging with such one liners

> > > > >

> > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only

> as

> > it

> > > > > will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects

> etc

> > > > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the

> time

> > of

> > > > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and

> results

> > > > one's

> > > > > own karma done after taken the present birth )

> > > > >

> > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or

> > some

> > > > > tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as

> it

> > > is

> > > > > not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in

> humans

> > > > >

> > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure

> which

> > > > cannot

> > > > > changed ( i mean our fate )

> > > > >

> > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga

> > > s/higher

> > > > > educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their

> > > > children

> > > > > to fate and sits carelessly

> > > > >

> > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a

> > > > subjective(astrology)

> > > > > > statement.Everything written about the statement is

> > > > > > imagination/interpretation etc etc.

> > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of

> > > > speach(note

> > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY

> > can

> > > > > talk

> > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by

> > > badhaka

> > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....

> > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd

> > > > house,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but

> > ones

> > > > > > poorva

> > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present

> > > Life

> > > > as

> > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana

> Karmas.

> > > Why

> > > > > > must

> > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be

> blamed

> > > > > kindly

> > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in

> > Your

> > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness

> from

> > > > > family

> > > > > > .

> > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like

> > > Saturn,

> > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them

> > > > unnecessarily.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching

> > bag

> > > > for

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal

> commonsense

> > > one

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm

> and

> > > > > > resultant

> > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the

> > agression

> > > > in

> > > > > > hard

> > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural

> > 10th.

> > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both

> > > material

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > spiritual.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and

> one

> > > > must

> > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment

> .

> > > > > remember

> > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to

> award

> > > us

> > > > > > pains

> > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets

> > just

> > > > show

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and

> pleasures

> > > > which

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field

> he

> > is

> > > > in.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are

> doing

> > > > Kriya

> > > > > > Yoga

> > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am

> sure

> > > you

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His

> > > guru

> > > > > Shri

> > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru

> > Shri

> > > > > > Babaji.

> > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus

> by

> > > > > saying

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by

> saying

> > > > that

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common

> > > > uniqueness

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga,

> as

> > > must

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > done actually ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ?

> with

> > > > above

> > > > > ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer

> > > Shri

> > > > K

> > > > > S

> > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers

> the

> > > > term

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri

> > > kasbe

> > > > > ji,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself

> as

> > > > > having

> > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never

> > allow

> > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last

> > 15

> > > > > Years

> > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to

> > > this

> > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or

> > > > energisations

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > Om

> > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this,

> > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > no

> > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and

> > > unnecessary

> > > > > > > humble.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve

> > > > anything

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat

> > in

> > > my

> > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.

> > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized

> one

> > > > whom

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and

> > made

> > > me

> > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.

> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation

> excersises

> > of

> > > > > Shri

> > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member

> in

> > > this

> > > > > > > august

> > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider

> as

> > > > most

> > > > > > > > ordinary

> > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga

> > > > > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > > > > > Gopi

> > > > > > > > > > Jee

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like

> > > very

> > > > > > > much.Pl

> > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir

> > > > etc.Manoj

> > > > > ji

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.

> > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of

> paramhans

> > > > > > yogananda

> > > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta

> > > > etc,may

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and

> 5th

> > > lord

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Suninair ji,you are right.I agree with you....Warm regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopi JI> > sure , But a joint collectiv efforts r required to unearth and proov > such dust covered dictums and its applicablity in real and practical> sense .> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil nair ji,> > you are right.We have to study more and more charts closely for sure.I> > read UK but cant remember if it is mentioned there.If we read more we> > tend to forget which one is from where and my memory is not good> enough.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gopi Ji> > >> > > thanks for ur own justifications which came tru exprnce and> following> > > many many masters> > >> > > But i can only say we hav to study more and refine it .Tho i read> some> > > books and artciles of respectiv scholars i dont know they were also> > > using such concepts> > >> > > Unless we giv weightage to all other factors ( leaving aside one> > concept> > > which is under scrutiny )we r not sure abt any concepts ,even i> doubt> > if> > > there is any textual support for this unless in UK this may b> possible> > (> > > uttarkalamrita may b )> > >> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunilnair ji,> > > > For long i never looked at jup and mer as badhakas.Only after> > personal> > > > experience and also studying fewmore charts closely I started> > > believing> > > > in it.Sri B.V.Raman used to discuss badhaka as well.Sri KNRji also> > > > discuss badhaka/maraka if i am not wrong.Any way jup in my case is> > not> > > > just a badhaka but maraka aswell by being 7th lord.> > > > Ofcourse i do have enough other factors aswell as far as career is> > > > concerned but jup and sat are playing major role as major planets> in> > > > their periods as you can also see from the feedback i have given> > > > you......> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ,> > "astro_tellerkerala"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > >> > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal> > > charts> > > > > and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > >> > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u> > may> > > > Not> > > > > hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we> > > > simply> > > > > clinging with such one liners> > > > >> > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only> as> > it> > > > > will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects> etc> > > > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the> time> > of> > > > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles and> results> > > > one's> > > > > own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > >> > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or> > some> > > > > tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as> it> > > is> > > > > not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in> humans> > > > >> > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure> which> > > > cannot> > > > > changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > >> > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga> > > s/higher> > > > > educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their> > > > children> > > > > to fate and sits carelessly> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> > > > subjective(astrology)> > > > > > statement.Everything written about the statement is> > > > > > imagination/interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> > > > speach(note> > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY> > can> > > > > talk> > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by> > > badhaka> > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd> > > > house,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but> > ones> > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present> > > Life> > > > as> > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana> Karmas.> > > Why> > > > > > must> > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be> blamed> > > > > kindly> > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in> > Your> > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness> from> > > > > family> > > > > > .> > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like> > > Saturn,> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> > > > unnecessarily.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching> > bag> > > > for> > > > > > all> > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal> commonsense> > > one> > > > > > would> > > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm> and> > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the> > agression> > > > in> > > > > > hard> > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural> > 10th.> > > > > Rahu> > > > > > is> > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both> > > material> > > > > and> > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and> one> > > > must> > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment> .> > > > > remember> > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to> award> > > us> > > > > > pains> > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets> > just> > > > show> > > > > > and> > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and> pleasures> > > > which> > > > > > one> > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field> he> > is> > > > in.> > > > > > You> > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are> doing> > > > Kriya> > > > > > Yoga> > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am> sure> > > you> > > > > know> > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His> > > guru> > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru> > Shri> > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus> by> > > > > saying> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by> saying> > > > that> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> > > > uniqueness> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga,> as> > > must> > > > > be> > > > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ?> with> > > > above> > > > > ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer> > > Shri> > > > K> > > > > S> > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers> the> > > > term> > > > > as> > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri> > > kasbe> > > > > ji,> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself> as> > > > > having> > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never> > allow> > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last> > 15> > > > > Years> > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to> > > this> > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> > > > energisations> > > > > > or> > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this,> > you> > > > > have> > > > > > no> > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and> > > unnecessary> > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if> > you> > > > are> > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ,> > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> > > > anything> > > > > > you> > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat> > in> > > my> > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized> one> > > > whom> > > > > i> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and> > made> > > me> > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > ,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation> excersises> > of> > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member> in> > > this> > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider> as> > > > most> > > > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like> > > very> > > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> > > > etc.Manoj> > > > > ji> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of> paramhans> > > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta> > > > etc,may> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and> 5th> > > lord> > > > > as> > > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,

 

According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

Dear Gopi Ji I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans so our chart

is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@.. .> wrote:>> One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> gopi.> ancient_indian_

astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> and> > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> poorva> > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> must> > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> .> > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> Mars> > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> >> > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a

punching bag for> all> > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> would> > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> resultant> > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> hard> > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> is> > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > spiritual.> >> > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> pains> > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> and> > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which>

one> > will receive, and nothing more.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> You> > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> Yoga> > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> Babaji.> > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > that> > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> all>

> > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> but> > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > done actually ?> > >> > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > >> > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > and> > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > >> > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> >

> being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> or> > Om> > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> no> > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > humble.> > >> > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > really truthful to the cause.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve

anything> you> > > have> > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > house> > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > had> > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > >> > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique

member in this> > august> > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > ordinary> > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > >> > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> Rajyoga-dear> > > > Gopi>

> > > > Jee> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > much.Pl> > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > this> > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> yogananda> > > > since> > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> be> > > due> > > > to> > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > well.> > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > >> > >

> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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       I tend to agree with Shri Sunil Nair. I have seen Bhadhaka concept only in Prashna Marga from among the classics i have referred to. Some people, especially users of KP  take it only in he context of longevity and diseases.

RegardsudupaOn Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gopi Ji   I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums

In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/obstacles  and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )

Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )

did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc  in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly rgrds sunil nair , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote:

>> One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrology)> statement.Everything written about the statement is> imagination/interpretation etc etc.> One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note

> retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> gopi.

> , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,

> and> > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> poorva> > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why

> must> > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family

> .> > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> Mars> > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> >> > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for

> all> > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> would> > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> resultant> > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in

> hard> > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> is> > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > spiritual.> >

> > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us

> pains> > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> and> > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> one> > will receive, and nothing more.

> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> You> > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya

> Yoga> > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri

> Babaji.> > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > that> > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> all> > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness

> but> > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > done actually ?> > >> > > Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?

> > >> > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,

> > and> > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

> > >> > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations

> or> > Om> > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> no> > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > humble.

> > >> > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > really truthful to the cause.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >

> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> you> > > have

> > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > house> > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i

> > had> > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.

> > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > >> > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this

> > august> > > > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most> > > ordinary> > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > >

> > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> Rajyoga-dear> > > > Gopi> > > > > Jee

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > much.Pl

> > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > this> > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans

> yogananda> > > > since> > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> be> > > due> > > > to> > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as

> > > well.> > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >

> > >> >>

 

 

 

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Dear Udupa Ji many thanks rgrds sunil nair , Guru <ahudupa wrote:>> I tend to agree with Shri Sunil Nair. I have seen Bhadhaka concept> only in Prashna Marga from among the classics i have referred to. Some> people, especially users of KP take it only in he context of longevity and> diseases.Regards> udupa> > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM, astro_tellerkerala <> astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > >> >> > *> >> > Dear Gopi Ji> >> > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i> > blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> >> > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav> > a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging> > with such one liners> >> > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will> > only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after> > one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in> > short the frutification/obstacles and results one's own karma done after> > taken the present birth )> >> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned> > robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in> > reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> >> > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot> > changed ( i mean our fate )> >> > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher> > educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to> > fate and sits carelessly> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > * , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrology)> > > statement.Everything written about the statement is> > > imagination/interpretation etc etc.> > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > gopi.> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > > and> > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > > poorva> > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > > must> > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > > .> > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > > Mars> > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > > >> > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > > all> > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > > would> > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > resultant> > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > > hard> > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > > is> > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > > spiritual.> > > >> > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > > pains> > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > > and> > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > > one> > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > > You> > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > > Yoga> > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > > Babaji.> > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > > that> > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > > all> > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > > but> > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > > done actually ?> > > > >> > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > > >> > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > > and> > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > > or> > > > Om> > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > > no> > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > > humble.> > > > >> > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > > you> > > > > have> > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > > house> > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta(Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > > had> > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > > august> > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > > this> > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > yogananda> > > > > > since> > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > > be> > > > > due> > > > > > to> > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > > well.> > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > -- > > Please visit my website http://www.astrocare.in>

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Dear Manoj JI Very Valid and Logical Points also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??rgrds sunil nair , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > rgrds sunil nair > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> >> > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > and> > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > poorva> > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > must> > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > .> > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > Mars> > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > >> > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > all> > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > would> > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > resultant> > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > hard> > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > is> > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > spiritual.> > >> > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > pains> > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > and> > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > one> > > will receive, and nothing more.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > You> > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > Yoga> > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > Babaji.> > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > that> > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > all> > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > but> > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > done actually ?> > > >> > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > >> > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > and> > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > >> > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > or> > > Om> > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > no> > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > humble.> > > >> > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > you> > > > have> > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > house> > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > had> > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > august> > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > ordinary> > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > >> > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > Jee> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > much.Pl> > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > this> > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > yogananda> > > > > since> > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > be> > > > due> > > > > to> > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > well.> > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Manoj ji,I agree with you.Even sri K.N.R. ji had problems with jup exal in 10th if i am not wrong as i read somewhere.That's why i said there are enough things in my chart apart from this badhaka concept!!.....Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > rgrds sunil nair > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> >> > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > and> > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > poorva> > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > must> > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > .> > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > Mars> > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > >> > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > all> > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > would> > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > resultant> > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > hard> > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > is> > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > spiritual.> > >> > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > pains> > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > and> > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > one> > > will receive, and nothing more.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > You> > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > Yoga> > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > Babaji.> > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > that> > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > all> > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > but> > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > done actually ?> > > >> > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > >> > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > and> > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > >> > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > or> > > Om> > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > no> > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > humble.> > > >> > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > you> > > > have> > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > house> > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > had> > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > august> > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > ordinary> > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > >> > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > Jee> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > much.Pl> > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > this> > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > yogananda> > > > > since> > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > be> > > > due> > > > > to> > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > well.> > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi Ji,

 

Yes, I agree you had said that. I just thought I could put forth my thoughts on this because on the surface Jupiter a benefic in the 10H looks like it should be good for Career matters, but there is more to that. So I just wanted to bring it out into discussion.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:31:40 PM Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

Dear Manoj ji,I agree with you.Even sri K.N.R. ji had problems with jup exal in 10th if i am not wrong as i read somewhere.That' s why i said there are enough things in my chart apart from this badhaka concept!!... ..Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss"

mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we

simply clinging with such one liners > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > rgrds sunil nair >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> >> > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > and> > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not

to be blamed but ones> > poorva> > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > must> > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > .> > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > Mars> > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > >> > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > all> > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > would> > > find that saturn is the Owner

for the 10th house of karm and> > resultant> > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > hard> > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > is> > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > spiritual.> > >> > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > pains> > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > and> > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > one> > > will receive, and nothing more.> > >> >

> regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > You> > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > Yoga> > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > Babaji.> > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > that> > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying

that> > all> > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > but> > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > done actually ?> > > >> > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > >> > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > and> > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> >

> >> > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > or> > > Om> > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > no> > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > humble.> > > >> > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com, "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > you> > > > have> > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > house> > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > had> > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > august> > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > ordinary> > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > >> > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > Jee> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > much.Pl> > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > this> > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > I am a

sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > yogananda> > > > > since> > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > be> > > > due> > > > > to> > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > well.> > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil Ji,

 

I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily great.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

Dear Manoj JI Very Valid and Logical Points also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > According to my notes from one of my

teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com> Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some

animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > rgrds sunil nair > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> >> > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th

house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > and> > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > poorva> > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > must> > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > horoscope for acquiring self

earned wealth and happiness from family> > .> > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > Mars> > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > >> > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > all> > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > would> > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > resultant> > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > hard> > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > is> > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > spiritual.> > >> > > The planets are the manifestations

of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > pains> > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > and> > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > one> > > will receive, and nothing more.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > You> > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing

Kriya> > Yoga> > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > Babaji.> > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > that> > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > all> > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > but> > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > done actually ?> > > >> > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > >> > > > Even myself is a direct descendant

of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > and> > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > >> > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > or> > > Om> > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > no> > > > right not to

demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > humble.> > > >> > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > you> > > > have> > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > house> > > > > sometimes makes me talk like

this.> > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > had> > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > august> > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most>

> > > ordinary> > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > >> > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > Gopi> > > > > > Jee>

> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > much.Pl> > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > this> > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > yogananda> > > > > since> > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > be> > > > due> > > > > to> > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > well.> > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > >

> gopi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj ji,

 

Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and Account services

where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn house and Jupiter in

Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will punished by his Karma

(Saturn).

 

But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit chart.Rahu in

4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in 3rd and Mars in 11th.Ketu

is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have placed.

 

Thanks & regards,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

 

 

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil Ji,

>

> I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one of those

subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily great.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala

>

> Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM

> Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

>

>  

>

> Dear Manoj JI

>

> Very Valid and Logical Points

>

> also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants to

giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure  ) means

purity in actions .

>

> Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and

survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??

>

> Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for

curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will

even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises

with such attitude ??

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,

> >

> > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not

especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career

Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied

and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the

Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H.

So it " enhances " the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it

difficult to go past the " worker " mode to the " boss " mode. So promotions etc

might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one

factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain

career problems with this placement.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopi Ji

> >

> >   I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i

blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums

> >

> > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav

a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging

with such one liners

> >

> > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will

only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one

taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the

frutification/ obstacles  and results one's own karma done after taken the

present birth )

> >

> > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned

robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in

reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans

> >

> > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot

changed ( i mean our fate )

> >

> > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher

educations yogas etc  in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate

and sits carelessly

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

gopi_b927@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)

> > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is

> > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.

> > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note

> > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk

> > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka

> > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....

> > > gopi.

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,

> > > and

> > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones

> > > poorva

> > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as

> > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why

> > > must

> > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly

> > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your

> > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family

> > > .

> > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,

> > > Mars

> > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for

> > > all

> > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one

> > > would

> > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and

> > > resultant

> > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in

> > > hard

> > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu

> > > is

> > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and

> > > > spiritual.

> > > >

> > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must

> > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember

> > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us

> > > pains

> > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show

> > > and

> > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which

> > > one

> > > > will receive, and nothing more.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.

> > > You

> > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya

> > > Yoga

> > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know

> > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri

> > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri

> > > Babaji.

> > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying

> > > > that

> > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that

> > > all

> > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness

> > > but

> > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be

> > > > > done actually ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S

> > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as

> > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,

> > > > and

> > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having

> > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow

> > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years

> > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this

> > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations

> > > or

> > > > Om

> > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have

> > > no

> > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary

> > > > humble.

> > > > >

> > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are

> > > > > really truthful to the cause.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything

> > > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd

> > > > > house

> > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.

> > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i

> > > > had

> > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me

> > > > > > understand everybody is unique.

> > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri

> > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this

> > > > august

> > > > > > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most

> > > > > ordinary

> > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My Pranams to you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > > Gopi

> > > > > > > Jee

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very

> > > > much.Pl

> > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > request is to you also please.

> > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans

> > > yogananda

> > > > > > since

> > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may

> > > be

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as

> > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bohra Ji,

 

Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my default view is always Rashi view.

 

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Sudan <msbohra62 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

Dear Manoj ji,Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and Account services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn house and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will punished by his Karma (Saturn).But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in 3rd and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have placed.Thanks & regards,M.S.Bohraancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not

necessarily great.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > Dear Manoj JI > > Very Valid and Logical Points > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and

survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??> > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > rgrds sunil nair > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So

it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > > > Regards,> > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak

concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure

which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > >> > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > > jup.I am talking astrology

only nothing else....> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > > and> > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > > poorva> > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > > must> > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > > .> > > > one

should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > > Mars> > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > > >> > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > > all> > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > > would> > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > resultant> > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > > hard> > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > > is> > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > > spiritual.> > > >> > > > The planets are the

manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > > pains> > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > > and> > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > > one> > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he

is in.> > > You> > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > > Yoga> > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > > Babaji.> > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > > that> > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > > all> > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > > but> > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > > done actually ?> >

> > >> > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > > >> > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > > and> > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > >

> association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > > or> > > > Om> > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > > no> > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > > humble.> > > > >> > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >>

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > > you> > > > > have> > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > > house> > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > > had> > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >

>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > > august> > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> >

> > > this> > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > yogananda> > > > > > since> > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > > be> > > > > due> > > > > > to> > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > > well.> > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj ji,

 

Chalit chart is very old concept.when astrologer were making hand made " Patrika "

they use to mentioned it in every Patrika.

 

House division,Bhav sandhi are related to it.Just use it and see the difference

by your own experience.

 

Thanks & regards,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

 

 

 

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Bohra Ji,

>

> Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very new to me

and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my default view is always

Rashi view. 

>

>

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj ji

 

I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me jupiter is exhaled in 10H

and it has always given me dis-satisfaction no matter how fast i grew, not had

problems in promotions but nothing ever satisfied.

Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable wherein i have always wanted

to lead but is impossible in service and creates a dissatisfaction again.

 

10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.

 

best regards

 

Karan

 

 

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Bohra Ji,

>

> Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very new to me

and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my default view is always

Rashi view. 

>

>

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Sudan <msbohra62

>

> Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM

> Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

>

>  

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and Account services

where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn house and Jupiter in

Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will punished by his Karma

(Saturn).

>

> But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit chart.Rahu

in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in 3rd and Mars in

11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have placed.

>

> Thanks & regards,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil Ji,

> >

> > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one of those

subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily great.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

> >

> >  

> >

> > Dear Manoj JI

> >

> > Very Valid and Logical Points

> >

> > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants

to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure  )

means purity in actions .

> >

> > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and

survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??

> >

> > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for

curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will

even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises

with such attitude ??

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,

> > >

> > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not

especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career

Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisf ied

and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the

Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H.

So it " enhances " the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it

difficult to go past the " worker " mode to the " boss " mode. So promotions etc

might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one

factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain

career problems with this placement.

> > >  

> > > Regards,

> > >  -Manoj

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Gopi Ji

> > >

> > >   I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and

i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums

> > >

> > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not

hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging

with such one liners

> > >

> > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will

only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one

taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the

frutification/ obstacles  and results one's own karma done after taken the

present birth )

> > >

> > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned

robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in

reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans

> > >

> > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot

changed ( i mean our fate )

> > >

> > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher

educations yogas etc  in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate

and sits carelessly

> > >

> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

gopi_b927@ .> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)

> > > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is

> > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.

> > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note

> > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk

> > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka

> > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....

> > > > gopi.

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,

> > > > and

> > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones

> > > > poorva

> > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as

> > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why

> > > > must

> > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly

> > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your

> > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family

> > > > .

> > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,

> > > > Mars

> > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for

> > > > all

> > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one

> > > > would

> > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and

> > > > resultant

> > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in

> > > > hard

> > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu

> > > > is

> > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and

> > > > > spiritual.

> > > > >

> > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must

> > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember

> > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us

> > > > pains

> > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show

> > > > and

> > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which

> > > > one

> > > > > will receive, and nothing more.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.

> > > > You

> > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya

> > > > Yoga

> > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know

> > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri

> > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri

> > > > Babaji.

> > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying

> > > > > that

> > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that

> > > > all

> > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness

> > > > but

> > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be

> > > > > > done actually ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S

> > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as

> > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having

> > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow

> > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years

> > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this

> > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations

> > > > or

> > > > > Om

> > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have

> > > > no

> > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary

> > > > > humble.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are

> > > > > > really truthful to the cause.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

> > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything

> > > > you

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.

> > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i

> > > > > had

> > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me

> > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.

> > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri

> > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this

> > > > > august

> > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most

> > > > > > ordinary

> > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > > > Gopi

> > > > > > > > Jee

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very

> > > > > much.Pl

> > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > request is to you also please.

> > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans

> > > > yogananda

> > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may

> > > > be

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as

> > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Karan Ji,

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, I have seen this in few of my other

friends as well, it can be called, chronic dissatisfaction despite success.

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

, " Karan " <karan wrote:

>

> Dear Manoj ji

>

> I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me jupiter is exhaled in

10H and it has always given me dis-satisfaction no matter how fast i grew, not

had problems in promotions but nothing ever satisfied.

> Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable wherein i have always

wanted to lead but is impossible in service and creates a dissatisfaction again.

>

> 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.

>

> best regards

>

> Karan

>

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bohra Ji,

> >

> > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very new to me

and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my default view is always

Rashi view. 

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Sudan <msbohra62@>

> >

> > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM

> > Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

> >

> >  

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> >

> > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and Account services

where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn house and Jupiter in

Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will punished by his Karma

(Saturn).

> >

> > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit

chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in 3rd and Mars

in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have placed.

> >

> > Thanks & regards,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil Ji,

> > >

> > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one of those

subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily great.

> > >  

> > > Regards,

> > >  -Manoj

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Dear Manoj JI

> > >

> > > Very Valid and Logical Points

> > >

> > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants

to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure  )

means purity in actions .

> > >

> > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and

survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??

> > >

> > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for

curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will

even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises

with such attitude ??

> > >

> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,

> > > >

> > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not

especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career

Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisf ied

and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the

Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H.

So it " enhances " the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it

difficult to go past the " worker " mode to the " boss " mode. So promotions etc

might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one

factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain

career problems with this placement.

> > > >  

> > > > Regards,

> > > >  -Manoj

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopi Ji

> > > >

> > > >   I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts

and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums

> > > >

> > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not

hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging

with such one liners

> > > >

> > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it

will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after

one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short

the frutification/ obstacles  and results one's own karma done after taken the

present birth )

> > > >

> > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some

tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in

reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans

> > > >

> > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot

changed ( i mean our fate )

> > > >

> > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher

educations yogas etc  in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate

and sits carelessly

> > > >

> > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

gopi_b927@ .> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)

> > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is

> > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.

> > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note

> > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can

talk

> > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka

> > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones

> > > > > poorva

> > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as

> > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why

> > > > > must

> > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed

kindly

> > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your

> > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family

> > > > > .

> > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,

> > > > > Mars

> > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for

> > > > > all

> > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one

> > > > > would

> > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and

> > > > > resultant

> > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in

> > > > > hard

> > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th.

Rahu

> > > > > is

> > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material

and

> > > > > > spiritual.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must

> > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment .

remember

> > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us

> > > > > pains

> > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show

> > > > > and

> > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which

> > > > > one

> > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.

> > > > > You

> > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya

> > > > > Yoga

> > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you

know

> > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru

Shri

> > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri

> > > > > Babaji.

> > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by

saying

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must

be

> > > > > > > done actually ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a " Shri " addressed to your name ? with above

?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K

S

> > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term

as

> > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe

ji,

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as

having

> > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow

> > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15

Years

> > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this

> > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations

> > > > > or

> > > > > > Om

> > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you

have

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary

> > > > > > humble.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are

> > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

" gopalakrishna "

> > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my

2nd

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.

> > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom

i

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me

> > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.

> > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of

Shri

> > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this

> > > > > > august

> > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix " Shri " also I would consider as most

> > > > > > > ordinary

> > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM

> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga

> > > > > Rajyoga-dear

> > > > > > > > Gopi

> > > > > > > > > Jee

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,

> > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very

> > > > > > much.Pl

> > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj

ji

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.

> > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans

> > > > > yogananda

> > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord

as

> > > > > > > well.

> > > > > > > > > > warm regards,

> > > > > > > > > > gopi.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Manoj ji,Very nice explanation for the effect of guru in 10th. I have a horoscope which has retro guru in 10th in leo but the person is perpetually dissatisfied with his career, ( every aspect of life in fact) , dissatisfied with his bosses, with his family etc. As you said he is bogged down in doing clerical work even tho he is a sr. manager in a nationalised bank and always complains. he has missed promotion for the past 4 years. I was wondering why? since guru is supposed to give exalted results in leo. thanks for the explanation.Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 26/9/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe:

Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee Date: Saturday, 26 September, 2009, 5:01 PM

 

 

 

Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,

 

According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee

Dear Gopi Ji I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans so our

chart

is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@.. .> wrote:>> One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> gopi.> ancient_indian_

astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> and> > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> poorva> > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> must> > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> .> > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> Mars> > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> >> > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a

punching bag for> all> > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> would> > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> resultant> > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> hard> > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> is> > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > spiritual.> >> > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> pains> > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> and> > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which>

one> > will receive, and nothing more.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> You> > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> Yoga> > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> Babaji.> > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > that> > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> all>

> > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> but> > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > done actually ?> > >> > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > >> > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > and> > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > >> > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> >

> being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> or> > Om> > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> no> > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > humble.> > >> > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > really truthful to the cause.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve

anything> you> > > have> > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > house> > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > had> > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > >> > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique

member in this> > august> > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > ordinary> > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > >> > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> Rajyoga-dear> > > > Gopi>

> > > > Jee> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > much.Pl> > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > this> > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> yogananda> > > > since> > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> be> > > due> > > > to> > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > well.> > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > >> > >

> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Manoj ji,yes, you are welcome....Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji,> > Yes, I agree you had said that. I just thought I could put forth my thoughts on this because on the surface Jupiter a benefic in the 10H looks like it should be good for Career matters, but there is more to that. So I just wanted to bring it out into discussion.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:31:40 PM> Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > Dear Manoj ji,> I agree with you.Even sri K.N.R. ji had problems with jup exal in 10th if i am not wrong as i read somewhere.That' s why i said there are enough things in my chart apart from this badhaka concept!!... ..> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisfied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > > > Regards,> > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > >> > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > > and> > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > > poorva> > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > > must> > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > > .> > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > > Mars> > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > > >> > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > > all> > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > > would> > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > resultant> > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > > hard> > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > > is> > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > > spiritual.> > > >> > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > > pains> > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > > and> > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > > one> > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > > You> > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > > Yoga> > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > > Babaji.> > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > > that> > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > > all> > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > > but> > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > > done actually ?> > > > >> > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > > >> > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > > and> > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > > or> > > > Om> > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > > no> > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > > humble.> > > > >> > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > > you> > > > > have> > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > > house> > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > > had> > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > > august> > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > > this> > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > yogananda> > > > > > since> > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > > be> > > > > due> > > > > > to> > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > > well.> > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Manoj ji,There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house of its placement and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I found it working well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known astrologer......Love and regards,gopi. , "Karan" <karan wrote:>> Dear Manoj ji> > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me jupiter is exhaled in 10H and it has always given me dis-satisfaction no matter how fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing ever satisfied.> Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable wherein i have always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and creates a dissatisfaction again.> > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> > best regards> > Karan> > > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bohra Ji,> > > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my default view is always Rashi view. > > > > > > Regards,> > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and Account services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn house and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in 3rd and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have placed.> > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily great.> > > > > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj JI > > > > > > Very Valid and Logical Points > > > > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat competition and survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??> > > > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2 tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other people. Some of the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter, b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career problems with this placement.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji > > > > > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums > > > > > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we simply clinging with such one liners > > > > > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans > > > > > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure which cannot changed ( i mean our fate ) > > > > > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their children to fate and sits carelessly > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of speach(note> > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY can talk> > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by badhaka> > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > > gopi.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd house,> > > > > and> > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but ones> > > > > poorva> > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present Life as> > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana Karmas. Why> > > > > must> > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be blamed kindly> > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in Your> > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness from family> > > > > .> > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like Saturn,> > > > > Mars> > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them unnecessarily.> > > > > >> > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching bag for> > > > > all> > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal commonsense one> > > > > would> > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > > > resultant> > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the agression in> > > > > hard> > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural 10th. Rahu> > > > > is> > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both material and> > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > >> > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and one must> > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment . remember> > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to award us> > > > > pains> > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets just show> > > > > and> > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and pleasures which> > > > > one> > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field he is in.> > > > > You> > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are doing Kriya> > > > > Yoga> > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am sure you know> > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His guru Shri> > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru Shri> > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus by saying> > > > > > that> > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by saying that> > > > > all> > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common uniqueness> > > > > but> > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga, as must be> > > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ? with above ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer Shri K S> > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers the term as> > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri kasbe ji,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself as having> > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never allow> > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 15 Years> > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to this> > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or energisations> > > > > or> > > > > > Om> > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this, you have> > > > > no> > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and unnecessary> > > > > > humble.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if you are> > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve anything> > > > > you> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat in my 2nd> > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized one whom i> > > > > > had> > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and made me> > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member in this> > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider as most> > > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like very> > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir etc.Manoj ji> > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of paramhans> > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta etc,may> > > > > be> > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and 5th lord as> > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi JI Pls quote the full dictum if u remebr it or some forumites may b knowing it even this was discussed many times in grp i do remebr it but forget full quote vridhi karo manda ------------something like this i blv ,means sat will increse the significations of the house it is placed and will distroy the house it aspects and jup will destroy the signification of the houses it is placed and improv the bhavas it aspects Even In ur case do u blv so ??In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why it has not blessed u with unlimited money ( A rich person also need not work for others ) is 10th house is all abt some paid Job ?? which is latest scenario in this present age ? where as in olden days how many persons were under permanent jobs ? with regular salaries even in india miliatry persons and cheifs were paid in terms of Landed properties than a permannt salary ( atleast i know this was so in kerala History ) till the advent of islam in world history where Military is allowed to Loot the enmies and enslave all woman ,kids and youths and sell it or keep it and it was salary for them .As arbian deserts wont giv them enough facility for a comfortable living .So 10th house has Lot of signification in actual life do u think shri KN rao Ji dont hav a good job tho he may or may not b satisfied in it ,i dont Know much abt it rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Manoj ji,> There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house of its placement> and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I found it working> well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known astrologer......> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "Karan" karan@> wrote:> >> > Dear Manoj ji> >> > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me jupiter is> exhaled in 10H and it has always given me dis-satisfaction no matter how> fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing ever satisfied.> > Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable wherein i have> always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and creates a> dissatisfaction again.> >> > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> >> > best regards> >> > Karan> >> >> >> > , Manoj Chandran> chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bohra Ji,> > >> > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very> new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my> default view is always Rashi view.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > > Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> Jee> > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and Account> services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn house> and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will> punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > >> > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit> chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in 3rd> and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have placed.> > >> > > Thanks & regards,> > >> > > M.S.Bohra> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > >> > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one> of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily great.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> Jee> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Manoj JI> > > >> > > > Very Valid and Logical Points> > > >> > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga as> it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON> -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > >> > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat> competition and survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??> > > >> > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2> tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary> one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can> own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H> is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very> strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them> constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other people. Some of> the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter,> b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of Work> from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past the> "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied and> dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but my> point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career> problems with this placement.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > -Manoj> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> Jee> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > >> > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal> charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > >> > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and u> may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than we> simply clinging with such one liners> > > > >> > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only> as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects etc> working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of> seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results> one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > >> > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals or> some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as it> is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> > > > >> > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure> which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > >> > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga> s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav their> children to fate and sits carelessly> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> speach(note> > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from VRY> can talk> > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by> badhaka> > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your 2nd> house,> > > > > > and> > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed but> ones> > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in present> Life as> > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana> Karmas. Why> > > > > > must> > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be> blamed kindly> > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in> Your> > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness> from family> > > > > > .> > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like> Saturn,> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> unnecessarily.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching> bag for> > > > > > all> > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal> commonsense one> > > > > > would> > > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm and> > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the> agression in> > > > > > hard> > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural> 10th. Rahu> > > > > > is> > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both> material and> > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and> one must> > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and treatment> . remember> > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to> award us> > > > > > pains> > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets> just show> > > > > > and> > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and> pleasures which> > > > > > one> > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field> he is in.> > > > > > You> > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are> doing Kriya> > > > > > Yoga> > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am> sure you know> > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji, His> guru Shri> > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His guru> Shri> > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his Gurus> by saying> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by> saying that> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> uniqueness> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga,> as must be> > > > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ?> with above ?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great Astrologer> Shri K S> > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers> the term as> > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was Shri> kasbe ji,> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is myself> as having> > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never> allow> > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my knowledge.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last> 15 Years> > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due to> this> > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> energisations> > > > > > or> > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing this,> you have> > > > > > no> > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and> unnecessary> > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments if> you are> > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> anything> > > > > > you> > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since sat> in my 2nd> > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a realized> one whom i> > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and> made me> > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation> excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member> in this> > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would consider> as most> > > > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Neechabanga> > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i like> very> > > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> etc.Manoj ji> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of> paramhans> > > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no istadevta/kuldevta> etc,may> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and> 5th lord as> > > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi Ji and List here is the adage on sani and jup propogated By some astrologers XXXXX""Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani:"""""""XXXXXXTho it does not hav any textual support rgrds sunil nair , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopi JI> > Pls quote the full dictum if u remebr it or some forumites may b> knowing it> > even this was discussed many times in grp> > i do remebr it but forget full quote> > vridhi karo manda ------------something like this i blv ,means sat will> increse the significations of the house it is placed and will distroy> the house it aspects and jup will destroy the signification of the> houses it is placed and improv the bhavas it aspects> > Even In ur case do u blv so ??> > In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why it has not> blessed u with unlimited money ( A rich person also need not work for> others )> > is 10th house is all abt some paid Job ?? which is latest scenario in> this present age ? where as in olden days how many persons were under> permanent jobs ? with regular salaries> > even in india miliatry persons and cheifs were paid in terms of Landed> properties than a permannt salary ( atleast i know this was so in kerala> History ) till the advent of islam in world history where Military is> allowed to Loot the enmies and enslave all woman ,kids and youths and> sell it or keep it and it was salary for them .As arbian deserts wont> giv them enough facility for a comfortable living .> > So 10th house has Lot of signification in actual life> > do u think shri KN rao Ji dont hav a good job tho he may or may not b> satisfied in it ,i dont Know much abt it> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Manoj ji,> > There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house of its> placement> > and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I found it> working> > well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known astrologer......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "Karan" karan@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji> > >> > > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me jupiter is> > exhaled in 10H and it has always given me dis-satisfaction no matter> how> > fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing ever> satisfied.> > > Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable wherein i have> > always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and creates a> > dissatisfaction again.> > >> > > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> > >> > > best regards> > >> > > Karan> > >> > >> > >> > > , Manoj Chandran> > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bohra Ji,> > > >> > > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very> > new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my> > default view is always Rashi view.> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > > > Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> > Jee> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > >> > > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and> Account> > services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn> house> > and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will> > punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > > >> > > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit> > chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in> 3rd> > and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have> placed.> > > >> > > > Thanks & regards,> > > >> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one> > of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily> great.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > -Manoj> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear> Gopi> > Jee> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Manoj JI> > > > >> > > > > Very Valid and Logical Points> > > > >> > > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga> as> > it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON> > -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > > >> > > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat> > competition and survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??> > > > >> > > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2> > tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary> > one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can> > own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj> Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H> > is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very> > strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them> > constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other people. Some> of> > the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter,> > b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of> Work> > from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past> the> > "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied> and> > dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but> my> > point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career> > problems with this placement.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> > Jee> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > > >> > > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal> > charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > > >> > > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and> u> > may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than> we> > simply clinging with such one liners> > > > > >> > > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only> > as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects> etc> > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of> > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results> > one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > > >> > > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals> or> > some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as> it> > is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> > > > > >> > > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure> > which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > > >> > > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga> > s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav> their> > children to fate and sits carelessly> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> > subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > > > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> > speach(note> > > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from> VRY> > can talk> > > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by> > badhaka> > > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your> 2nd> > house,> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed> but> > ones> > > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in> present> > Life as> > > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana> > Karmas. Why> > > > > > > must> > > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be> > blamed kindly> > > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in> > Your> > > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness> > from family> > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like> > Saturn,> > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> > unnecessarily.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching> > bag for> > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal> > commonsense one> > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm> and> > > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the> > agression in> > > > > > > hard> > > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural> > 10th. Rahu> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both> > material and> > > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and> > one must> > > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and> treatment> > . remember> > > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to> > award us> > > > > > > pains> > > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets> > just show> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and> > pleasures which> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field> > he is in.> > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are> > doing Kriya> > > > > > > Yoga> > > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am> > sure you know> > > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji,> His> > guru Shri> > > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His> guru> > Shri> > > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his> Gurus> > by saying> > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by> > saying that> > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> > uniqueness> > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga,> > as must be> > > > > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ?> > with above ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great> Astrologer> > Shri K S> > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers> > the term as> > > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was> Shri> > kasbe ji,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is> myself> > as having> > > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never> > allow> > > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my> knowledge.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for> last> > 15 Years> > > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due> to> > this> > > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> > energisations> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing> this,> > you have> > > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and> > unnecessary> > > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments> if> > you are> > > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> > anything> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since> sat> > in my 2nd> > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a> realized> > one whom i> > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and> > made me> > > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation> > excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member> > in this> > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would> consider> > as most> > > > > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:> Neechabanga> > > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i> like> > very> > > > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> > etc.Manoj ji> > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of> > paramhans> > > > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no> istadevta/kuldevta> > etc,may> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and> > 5th lord as> > > > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sunilnair ji, //In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why it has not> blessed u with unlimited money //Sat in my chart tough placed in 2nd is also aspg 2nd lord in 11th house as well as 11th lord in 4th.Hence it is more negative than positive.i am not sure about K.N.R ji's problems in job......Love and regards,gopi. , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopi JI> > Pls quote the full dictum if u remebr it or some forumites may b> knowing it> > even this was discussed many times in grp> > i do remebr it but forget full quote> > vridhi karo manda ------------something like this i blv ,means sat will> increse the significations of the house it is placed and will distroy> the house it aspects and jup will destroy the signification of the> houses it is placed and improv the bhavas it aspects> > Even In ur case do u blv so ??> > In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why it has not> blessed u with unlimited money ( A rich person also need not work for> others )> > is 10th house is all abt some paid Job ?? which is latest scenario in> this present age ? where as in olden days how many persons were under> permanent jobs ? with regular salaries> > even in india miliatry persons and cheifs were paid in terms of Landed> properties than a permannt salary ( atleast i know this was so in kerala> History ) till the advent of islam in world history where Military is> allowed to Loot the enmies and enslave all woman ,kids and youths and> sell it or keep it and it was salary for them .As arbian deserts wont> giv them enough facility for a comfortable living .> > So 10th house has Lot of signification in actual life> > do u think shri KN rao Ji dont hav a good job tho he may or may not b> satisfied in it ,i dont Know much abt it> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Manoj ji,> > There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house of its> placement> > and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I found it> working> > well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known astrologer......> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "Karan" karan@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji> > >> > > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me jupiter is> > exhaled in 10H and it has always given me dis-satisfaction no matter> how> > fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing ever> satisfied.> > > Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable wherein i have> > always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and creates a> > dissatisfaction again.> > >> > > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> > >> > > best regards> > >> > > Karan> > >> > >> > >> > > , Manoj Chandran> > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bohra Ji,> > > >> > > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit concept is very> > new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it. Hence my> > default view is always Rashi view.> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________> > > > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > > > Re: Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> > Jee> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > >> > > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for Judiciary,Teaching and> Account> > services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural Saturn> house> > and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure work than he will> > punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > > >> > > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house see the chalit> > chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in 12th,Moon is in> 3rd> > and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house Ketu have> placed.> > > >> > > > Thanks & regards,> > > >> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out because this is one> > of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not necessarily> great.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > -Manoj> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear> Gopi> > Jee> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Manoj JI> > > > >> > > > > Very Valid and Logical Points> > > > >> > > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well in kali yuga> as> > it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga ( means NON> > -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > > >> > > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut -throat> > competition and survival of fittest world with such a attitude ??> > > > >> > > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and giv only rs 2> > tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is just a temporary> > one , how many will even respect them in this Louika Loga and who can> > own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj> Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers, Guru in the 10H> > is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those who have very> > strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H will make them> > constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other people. Some> of> > the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb house of Jupiter,> > b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances" the 6H of> Work> > from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult to go past> the> > "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc might be denied> and> > dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one factor ... but> my> > point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can explain career> > problems with this placement.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka comcept -dear Gopi> > Jee> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > > >> > > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept tagging to Natal> > charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > > >> > > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in 10th House and> u> > may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other factors than> we> > simply clinging with such one liners> > > > > >> > > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm Prashna charts only> > as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma ,its effects> etc> > working after one taken birth and its frutification till the time of> > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles and results> > one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > > >> > > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like some animals> or> > some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no choices ,where as> it> > is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will also in humans> > > > > >> > > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic stone structure> > which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > > >> > > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the saraswathi yoga> > s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid --just leav> their> > children to fate and sits carelessly> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made a> > subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the statement is> > > > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna and2nd lord of> > speach(note> > > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of luck apart from> VRY> > can talk> > > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat in 2nd asp by> > badhaka> > > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing else....> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being in your> 2nd> > house,> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not to be blamed> but> > ones> > > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances done in> present> > Life as> > > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as Kriyamana> > Karmas. Why> > > > > > > must> > > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is Saturn to be> > blamed kindly> > > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest significator in> > Your> > > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth and happiness> > from family> > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives from planets like> > Saturn,> > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not taint them> > unnecessarily.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has become a punching> > bag for> > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses normal> > commonsense one> > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > find that saturn is the Owner for the 10th house of karm> and> > > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas mars is the> > agression in> > > > > > > hard> > > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point in the natural> > 10th. Rahu> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant happiness both> > material and> > > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the Supreme Lord and> > one must> > > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in speech and> treatment> > . remember> > > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just instruments to> > award us> > > > > > > pains> > > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the various planets> > just show> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the pains and> > pleasures which> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his ancestory in the field> > he is in.> > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say that you are> > doing Kriya> > > > > > > Yoga> > > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20 years ? I am> > sure you know> > > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji,> His> > guru Shri> > > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri Mahasaya, and His> guru> > Shri> > > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and undermine his> Gurus> > by saying> > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to look good by> > saying that> > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if normally common> > uniqueness> > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here doing Kriya yoga,> > as must be> > > > > > > > > done actually ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed to your name ?> > with above ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the Great> Astrologer> > Shri K S> > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if one considers> > the term as> > > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His Shishya was> Shri> > kasbe ji,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his shishya is> myself> > as having> > > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which is why I never> > allow> > > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or to my> knowledge.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for> last> > 15 Years> > > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not demand respect due> to> > this> > > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga, Hong Sau or> > energisations> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you are doing> this,> > you have> > > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear ordinary and> > unnecessary> > > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of your attainments> if> > you are> > > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and i dont deserve> > anything> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but cant help since> sat> > in my 2nd> > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real McCoy)and a> realized> > one whom i> > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start living and> > made me> > > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and Energisation> > excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a unique member> > in this> > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I would> consider> > as most> > > > > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:58:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:> Neechabanga> > > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of adressing which i> like> > very> > > > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont degrade me with sir> > etc.Manoj ji> > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya yoga of> > paramhans> > > > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no> istadevta/kuldevta> > etc,may> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th lord and> > 5th lord as> > > > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>