Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear All, * What are the results to be predicted for Moola Nakashatra? * What are the good results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in a Natal chart? * What are the bad results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in a Natal chart? * When those results will occur in the life of the native? (Approximate age of event) I request you to take up this subject and discuss in detail. Also try to utilize the traditional Nakshatra pada dasa technique to arrive at the period of result. Hope you will not forget our earlier thread which discussed this technique. URL: /message/19411 Let us whether Moola Nakshatra is good or bad and in reality what results it gives and also how much in tune with the reality is the traditional teachings. Let us make this discussion elaborate and informative so that every one can enjoy it. Note: I request the participants NOT TO discuss this subject as if they are sitting at the top of some glass house or so, and as if aloof and floating above all; but instead please be grounded, be realistic, and daringly make oneself susceptible and available to criticism. At the end it would be beneficial to himself (or herself) only. Let us start enjoying this thread! We have a chance to play with both Bhaskar ji and Revati ji I request every one to participate and start the fun game! My blessings to all..... Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji and all, I really like this. This is what is needed in a Jyotish Group. Discussions, arguments, counter arguments, refuting, logic, illogic, breaking of illogic, and finally - realistic conclusions. I like that second last line of Yours very much and laughed aloud, and my wife sitting near me was wondering what evil I was upto, she was on phone so could not ask me. Yes play we must, this is an enjoyable game, and let us not strike each other personally, but remain good opponents in arguments or on one side, and after the arguments are over, remain good friends and colleauges on this Forum. I am ready for criticism as always have been, and ready to be played with and fought with (Astrologically). Lets start this lovely game. Love and regards, Bhaskar. , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > * What are the results to be predicted for Moola Nakashatra? > * What are the good results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in > a Natal chart? > * What are the bad results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in > a Natal chart? > * When those results will occur in the life of the native? (Approximate > age of event) > > I request you to take up this subject and discuss in detail. Also > try to utilize the traditional Nakshatra pada dasa technique to arrive > at the period of result. Hope you will not forget our earlier thread > which discussed this technique. URL: > /message/19411 > </message/19411> > > Let us whether Moola Nakshatra is good or bad and in reality what > results it gives and also how much in tune with the reality is the > traditional teachings. [] [] Let us make this discussion > elaborate and informative so that every one can enjoy it. > > Note: I request the participants NOT TO discuss this subject as if they > are sitting at the top of some glass house or so, and as if aloof and > floating above all; but instead please be grounded, be realistic, and > daringly make oneself susceptible and available to criticism. At the > end it would be beneficial to himself (or herself) only. [] Let us > start enjoying this thread! We have a chance to play with both Bhaskar > ji and Revati ji [] I request every one to participate and start the > fun game! [] [>] [)] My blessings to all..... [O:)] [] > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Respectful Sreenath, It is long time, since I got into any 'thread' discussions. Just tabulate topics discussed. All (discussions) had gone into personal 'disputes' over Astrology/Vedic knowledge, while now you say come 'down' and discuss- 'get grounded' and elaborately. For one article on Saturn transit I collected 11 nasty mails, while I un-subscibed from two groups. Enough is enough. Let me 'sit' in galleries and watch the Goliaths! Instead of 'singing' why not enjoy songs sung by others - experts!! A.V.Pathi, Sreenadh <sreesog Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:30:16 PM Moola Nakshatra Dear All, * What are the results to be predicted for Moola Nakashatra? * What are the good results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in a Natal chart? * What are the bad results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in a Natal chart? * When those results will occur in the life of the native? (Approximate age of event) I request you to take up this subject and discuss in detail. Also try to utilize the traditional Nakshatra pada dasa technique to arrive at the period of result. Hope you will not forget our earlier thread which discussed this technique. URL: http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /message/ 19411 Let us whether Moola Nakshatra is good or bad and in reality what results it gives and also how much in tune with the reality is the traditional teachings. Let us make this discussion elaborate and informative so that every one can enjoy it. Note: I request the participants NOT TO discuss this subject as if they are sitting at the top of some glass house or so, and as if aloof and floating above all; but instead please be grounded, be realistic, and daringly make oneself susceptible and available to criticism. At the end it would be beneficial to himself (or herself) only. Let us start enjoying this thread! We have a chance to play with both Bhaskar ji and Revati ji I request every one to participate and start the fun game! My blessings to all..... Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Mr. Bhaskar, I would appreciate your detailed views on Moola Nakshatra, as you formerly promised. I have done my job - since now you did not. Dear Anita, you surely already have found my reply! Best for all! Revati , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and all, > > I really like this. This is what is needed in a Jyotish Group. > Discussions, arguments, counter arguments, refuting, logic, illogic, > breaking of illogic, and finally - realistic conclusions. > > I like that second last line of Yours very much and laughed aloud, and > my wife sitting near me was wondering what evil I was upto, she was on > phone so could not ask me. > > Yes play we must, this is an enjoyable game, and let us not strike each > other personally, but remain good opponents in arguments or on one side, > and after the arguments are over, remain good friends and colleauges on > this Forum. > > I am ready for criticism as always have been, and ready to be played > with and fought with (Astrologically). > > Lets start this lovely game. > > Love and regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > * What are the results to be predicted for Moola Nakashatra? > > * What are the good results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra > in > > a Natal chart? > > * What are the bad results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in > > a Natal chart? > > * When those results will occur in the life of the native? > (Approximate > > age of event) > > > > I request you to take up this subject and discuss in detail. Also > > try to utilize the traditional Nakshatra pada dasa technique to arrive > > at the period of result. Hope you will not forget our earlier thread > > which discussed this technique. URL: > > /message/19411 > > </message/19411> > > > > Let us whether Moola Nakshatra is good or bad and in reality what > > results it gives and also how much in tune with the reality is the > > traditional teachings. [] [] Let us make this discussion > > elaborate and informative so that every one can enjoy it. > > > > Note: I request the participants NOT TO discuss this subject as if > they > > are sitting at the top of some glass house or so, and as if aloof and > > floating above all; but instead please be grounded, be realistic, and > > daringly make oneself susceptible and available to criticism. At the > > end it would be beneficial to himself (or herself) only. [] Let us > > start enjoying this thread! We have a chance to play with both Bhaskar > > ji and Revati ji [] I request every one to participate and start the > > fun game! [] [>] [)] My blessings to all..... [O:)] [] > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dearest Mr. Pathi, how nice to read s.th. from you after a long time. I completely agree with you, completely. Very well said, and I absolutely share your experiences, this is the situation, unfortunately. I take your mail as inspiration to do the same. Best Regards, Health and Wealth for you, Revati http://health.revati_energetics_true_vedic_astrol\ ogy/ , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Respectful Sreenath, > > It is long time, since I got into any 'thread' discussions. Just tabulate topics discussed. All (discussions) had gone into personal 'disputes' over Astrology/Vedic knowledge, while now you say come 'down' and discuss- 'get grounded' and elaborately. For one article on Saturn transit I collected 11 nasty mails, while I un-subscibed from two groups. Enough is enough. Let me 'sit' in galleries and watch the Goliaths! Instead of 'singing' why not enjoy songs sung by others - experts!! > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > ________________________________ > Sreenadh sreesog > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:30:16 PM > Moola Nakshatra > > > Dear All, > * What are the results to be predicted for Moola Nakashatra? > * What are the good results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in a Natal chart? > * What are the bad results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra in a Natal chart? > * When those results will occur in the life of the native? (Approximate age of event) > > I request you to take up this subject and discuss in detail. Also try to utilize the traditional Nakshatra pada dasa technique to arrive at the period of result. Hope you will not forget our earlier thread which discussed this technique. URL: http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /message/ 19411 > > Let us whether Moola Nakshatra is good or bad and in reality what results it gives and also how much in tune with the reality is the traditional teachings. Let us make this discussion elaborate and informative so that every one can enjoy it. > > Note: I request the participants NOT TO discuss this subject as if they are sitting at the top of some glass house or so, and as if aloof and floating above all; but instead please be grounded, be realistic, and daringly make oneself susceptible and available to criticism. At the end it would be beneficial to himself (or herself) only. Let us start enjoying this thread! We have a chance to play with both Bhaskar ji and Revati ji I request every one to participate and start the fun game! My blessings to all..... > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thank you Sreenadh ji for that beautiful, uplifting note. I am sharing some observations on Mula. Hope members would find them useful.Mula is the celestial ROOT and is supposed to be the centre of Universe. It is said to be ruled by Prajapati. In a rather negative sense in the Vedas, it is said that Mula is ruled by Nirriti who is said to take away the root of one’s progeny or may cause loss of one’s first child. (one may check that point!). However, just because the deity is Nirriti, Mula cannot be just about destruction. Mula is the stage for final transmutation of ego in the triad of Dharma. By virtue of its position in the zodiac, Mula natives are prone to upheavals in their physical, emotional, & social environment. They feel trapped and betrayed by the unjust, unpredictable world. Ketu's gives detachment and Guru gives optimism. So it creates a tendency to push oneself beyond the physical limitations, especially in the mental and spiritual areas. The native is, thus, always prepared to rise spiritually while meditating upon being unattached to worldly objects. Due to this feeling, he also does a lot of charity, even beyond his means, at the cost of annoying his family. Native is specially inclined towards the observance of religious rites and sometimes ends up being superstitious to some extent. Mula natives often appear to be successful and have a cheerful social personality because of Guru, but they become reckless because of disregard for consequences (detached ketu). The impulse to evolve, can make them appear cruel at times to get their way. Creative and growing compulsions often make them seekers. They may never appear to be satisfied because of this compulsion to grow. Mula restricts the movement (rooted), it is finite and limited. The native appears externally capable but internally remains unhappy, as if arrested.Mula natives feel an internal pressure to come up (as in germination) which is very intense. At this stage of development, the soul is aware and has self-knowledge. Thus Mula natives can hold their ground, endure fluctuations and emerge stronger. This nakshatra is said to be harmful for fertility, but other factors should also confirm this.The person born in Mula is compassionate, merciful and kind by nature, honest to his work and occupation, he gives respect to others and demands respect from others, habituated to live in a disciplined manner and has leadership abilities. The spouse is often provocative and incite reactivity in the partner. They are physically agile and active and professionally they like to work in high-stakes environments. They are able to instil faith in their followers, and can influence people with their charisma. There is an uncertainty in occupation and changes may happen in occupation. Extremely enthusiastic in his field of action and is hasty in is desire of making continual progress. There is a feeling of indifference or even contempt towards keeping accounts of income and expenditure. It is believed that loans taken during the Moon's transit through Mula would be difficult to pay back (non-movement). I have not been able to check that point!Hope this is useful. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Revatiji, I was not supposed to do any. It was your take. But I am coming closer. regards/Bhaskar. , " revati_energetics " <revati_energetics wrote: > > Dear Mr. Bhaskar, > > I would appreciate your detailed views on Moola Nakshatra, as you > formerly promised. > I have done my job - since now you did not. > > Dear Anita, > you surely already have found my reply! > > Best for all! > Revati > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji and all, > > > > I really like this. This is what is needed in a Jyotish Group. > > Discussions, arguments, counter arguments, refuting, logic, illogic, > > breaking of illogic, and finally - realistic conclusions. > > > > I like that second last line of Yours very much and laughed aloud, and > > my wife sitting near me was wondering what evil I was upto, she was on > > phone so could not ask me. > > > > Yes play we must, this is an enjoyable game, and let us not strike > each > > other personally, but remain good opponents in arguments or on one > side, > > and after the arguments are over, remain good friends and colleauges > on > > this Forum. > > > > I am ready for criticism as always have been, and ready to be played > > with and fought with (Astrologically). > > > > Lets start this lovely game. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > * What are the results to be predicted for Moola Nakashatra? > > > * What are the good results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra > > in > > > a Natal chart? > > > * What are the bad results indicated by the birth in this Nakshatra > in > > > a Natal chart? > > > * When those results will occur in the life of the native? > > (Approximate > > > age of event) > > > > > > I request you to take up this subject and discuss in detail. Also > > > try to utilize the traditional Nakshatra pada dasa technique to > arrive > > > at the period of result. Hope you will not forget our earlier thread > > > which discussed this technique. URL: > > > /message/19411 > > > > </message/19411> > > > > > > Let us whether Moola Nakshatra is good or bad and in reality what > > > results it gives and also how much in tune with the reality is the > > > traditional teachings. [] [] Let us make this discussion > > > elaborate and informative so that every one can enjoy it. > > > > > > Note: I request the participants NOT TO discuss this subject as if > > they > > > are sitting at the top of some glass house or so, and as if aloof > and > > > floating above all; but instead please be grounded, be realistic, > and > > > daringly make oneself susceptible and available to criticism. At the > > > end it would be beneficial to himself (or herself) only. [] Let us > > > start enjoying this thread! We have a chance to play with both > Bhaskar > > > ji and Revati ji [] I request every one to participate and start > the > > > fun game! [] [>] [)] My blessings to all..... [O:)] [] > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Mula Nakshatra Is it as evil as it is known to be ??? Is it as evil as it is so spoken about ?? Mula is the root one - The Original One. Mula connotes teh ideas of foundation, commencement from the very bottom, the chief or the Principal . Mula is opposed to the idea of wordly prosperity . Rather the ideas are penetration of the native into the root cause in science, philosphy or in any other knowledge. The symbol of Mula "tied bunch of roots" denotes binding , bondage or restraint. Ideas : To be rooted, firmly, fixed, steady,stable,the foot or lowest part or bottom of anything. oot of plants, the edge of the Horizon. Basis, foundation, commencement from the bottom, thoroughly, cause, origin, source, rooted in, based upon. The chief or the principal city, Capital. The Original text as opposed to commentary. Kings original territory. Original, first, unprecedented, peculiar, own, proper. Binding, tying, fixing, to rest, restraint, suppress, stop,, bond, chain, fetter, bondage, arrested movement, inoffensive, non-injury, non intervention, unaggressive. Anyone to oppose the above, and prove that Moola is destructive ? Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Friends, Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither the Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know about. NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always like to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into and learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a viewer or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by going deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather than playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as mentioned in the Text Books. So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in actual Nativity ? Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you check the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars is Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native is a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is dealing with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product, will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also know the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power to get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have the knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than go for partnership. Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and the 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in going deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility for the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is placed in the Nakshatra of Mars . The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology field. Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this well, for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who do not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides of the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its Lord and talking rot. In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must love all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for hatred, inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God has given us. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > > Mula Nakshatra> > Is it as evil as it is known to be ??? Is it as evil as it is so spoken> about ??> > Mula is the root one - The Original One.> > Mula connotes teh ideas of foundation, commencement from the very> bottom, the chief or the Principal . Mula is opposed to the idea of> wordly prosperity . Rather the ideas are penetration of the native into> the root cause in science, philosphy or in any other knowledge. The> symbol of Mula "tied bunch of roots" denotes binding , bondage or> restraint.> > Ideas :> > To be rooted, firmly, fixed, steady,stable,the foot or lowest part or> bottom of anything. oot of plants, the edge of the Horizon.> > Basis, foundation, commencement from the bottom, thoroughly, cause,> origin, source, rooted in, based upon.> > The chief or the principal city, Capital.> > The Original text as opposed to commentary. Kings original territory.> > Original, first, unprecedented, peculiar, own, proper.> > Binding, tying, fixing, to rest, restraint, suppress, stop,, bond,> chain, fetter, bondage, arrested movement, inoffensive, non-injury, non> intervention, unaggressive.> > Anyone to oppose the above, and prove that Moola is destructive ?> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // Well said! Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Friends,> > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the> websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No Nakshatra> is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the> natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither the> Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know> about.> > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE> WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS> ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY.> > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always like> to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into and> learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a viewer> or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by going> deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather than> playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as> mentioned in the Text Books.> > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in> actual Nativity ?> > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you check> the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars is> Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native is> a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is dealing> with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product,> will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also know> the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power to> get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have the> knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be> utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than go> for partnership.> > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and the> 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in going> deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility for> the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may> receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be> better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory> concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains.> > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ?> > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is placed> in the Nakshatra of Mars .> > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology field.> > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this well,> for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who do> not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides of> the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up> from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its Lord> and talking rot.> > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must love> all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for hatred,> inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God has> given us.> > Best wishes,> > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, That was a very informative mail. Love and regards,Sreenadh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Thank you Sreenadh ji for that beautiful, uplifting note. I am sharing some> observations on Mula. Hope members would find them useful.> > Mula is the celestial ROOT and is supposed to be the centre of Universe. It> is said to be ruled by Prajapati. In a rather negative sense in the Vedas,> it is said that Mula is ruled by Nirriti who is said to take away the root> of one's progeny or may cause loss of one's first child. (one may check that> point!). However, just because the deity is Nirriti, Mula cannot be just> about destruction.> > Mula is the stage for final transmutation of ego in the triad of Dharma. By> virtue of its position in the zodiac, Mula natives are prone to upheavals in> their physical, emotional, & social environment. They feel trapped and> betrayed by the unjust, unpredictable world.> > Ketu's gives detachment and Guru gives optimism. So it creates a tendency to> push oneself beyond the physical limitations, especially in the mental and> spiritual areas. The native is, thus, always prepared to rise spiritually> while meditating upon being unattached to worldly objects. Due to this> feeling, he also does a lot of charity, even beyond his means, at the cost> of annoying his family. Native is specially inclined towards the observance> of religious rites and sometimes ends up being superstitious to some extent.> > Mula natives often appear to be successful and have a cheerful social> personality because of Guru, but they become reckless because of disregard> for consequences (detached ketu). The impulse to evolve, can make them> appear cruel at times to get their way. Creative and growing compulsions> often make them seekers. They may never appear to be satisfied because of> this compulsion to grow.> > Mula restricts the movement (rooted), it is finite and limited. The native> appears externally capable but internally remains unhappy, as if arrested.> > Mula natives feel an internal pressure to come up (as in germination) which> is very intense. At this stage of development, the soul is aware and has> self-knowledge. Thus Mula natives can hold their ground, endure fluctuations> and emerge stronger.> > This nakshatra is said to be harmful for fertility, but other factors should> also confirm this.> > The person born in Mula is compassionate, merciful and kind by nature,> honest to his work and occupation, he gives respect to others and demands> respect from others, habituated to live in a disciplined manner and has> leadership abilities.> > The spouse is often provocative and incite reactivity in the partner.> > They are physically agile and active and professionally they like to work in> high-stakes environments. They are able to instil faith in their followers,> and can influence people with their charisma. There is an uncertainty in> occupation and changes may happen in occupation. Extremely enthusiastic in> his field of action and is hasty in is desire of making continual progress.> There is a feeling of indifference or even contempt towards keeping accounts> of income and expenditure.> > It is believed that loans taken during the Moon's transit through Mula would> be difficult to pay back (non-movement). I have not been able to check that> point!> > Hope this is useful.> > Regards> Neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji,Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is in Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.?Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Moola Nakshatra Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM Dear Bhaskar ji, That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // Well said! Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Friends,> > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the> websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No Nakshatra> is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the> natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither the> Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know> about.> > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE> WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS> ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY.> > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always like> to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into and> learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a viewer> or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by going> deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather than> playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as> mentioned in the Text Books.> > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in> actual Nativity ?> > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you check> the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars is> Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native is> a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is dealing> with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product,> will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also know> the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power to> get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have the> knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be> utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than go> for partnership.> > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and the> 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in going> deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility for> the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may> receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be> better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory> concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains.> > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ?> > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is placed> in the Nakshatra of Mars .> > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology field.> > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this well,> for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who do> not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides of> the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up> from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its Lord> and talking rot.> > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must love> all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for hatred,> inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God has> given us.> > Best wishes,> > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this has been so advised. Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new house and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a foolish person and brought a wrong house. These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole space in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is in Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > > Sreenadh sreesog > Re: Moola Nakshatra > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > Well said! > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No Nakshatra > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither the > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > about. > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always like > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into and > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a viewer > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by going > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather than > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in > > actual Nativity ? > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you check > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars is > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native is > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is dealing > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product, > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also know > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power to > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have the > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than go > > for partnership. > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and the > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in going > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility for > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is placed > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology field. > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this well, > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who do > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides of > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its Lord > > and talking rot. > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must love > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for hatred, > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God has > > given us. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Everybody knows that certain Nakshatras like Aslesha and Moola etc. if a child is born during this constellation with Moon in same, a Pooja is to be done. But certain smart over wise persons with all the time in the world wish to ask silly questions just because they have all time to discuss and actually they are asking " Why must a person take a Umbrella outside when it is raining ? " You must tell them that the Rain will wet the shoulders and the persons clothes which is why he cvarries an umbrella, but this does not mean that the Rain is Bad or evil. Rain is a neccesity- a Biological Necessity. Please somebody explain such wise persons, because if I start asking silly questions on astronomy they would look hither and thither for the answers and would make them look like fools, I assure them. Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this has> been so advised.> > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at> that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is> reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is> going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new house> and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a> foolish person and brought a wrong house.> > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole space> in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , Sunil Bhattacharjya> sunil_bhattacharjya@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadhji,> >> > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is in> Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.?> >> > Regards,> >> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> >> > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Sreenadh sreesog@> > Re: Moola Nakshatra> > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say -> > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results> will come in the natives Life in a particular period. //> > Well said!> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the> > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No> Nakshatra> > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the> > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither> the> > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know> > > about.> > >> > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT> AVAILABLE> > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS> > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY.> > >> > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always> like> > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into> and> > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a> viewer> > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by> going> > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather> than> > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as> > > mentioned in the Text Books.> > >> > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in> > > actual Nativity ?> > >> > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you> check> > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars> is> > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native> is> > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is> dealing> > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product,> > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also> know> > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power> to> > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have> the> > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be> > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than> go> > > for partnership.> > >> > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and> the> > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in> going> > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility> for> > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may> > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be> > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory> > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains.> > >> > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ?> > >> > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is> placed> > > in the Nakshatra of Mars .> > >> > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology> field.> > >> > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this> well,> > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who> do> > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides> of> > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up> > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its> Lord> > > and talking rot.> > >> > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must> love> > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for> hatred,> > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God> has> > > given us.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 dear Neelam gupta ji, thanks for enlightening us abt Moola nakshtra. the following attributes from u mail fit into my wife' brother who has Moolam 4th pada, his 7th house is occupied by sun merc and venus. his lagna is Aquarius. Mula natives often appear to be successful and have a cheerful social personality because of Guru, but they become reckless because of disregard for consequences (detached ketu). The impulse to evolve, can make them appear cruel at times to get their way. Creative and growing compulsions often make them seekers. They may never appear to be satisfied because of this compulsion to grow.Mula restricts the movement (rooted), it is finite and limited. The native appears externally capable but internally remains unhappy, as if arrested.Mula natives feel an internal pressure to come up (as in germination) which is very intense. At this stage of development, the soul is aware and has self-knowledge. Thus Mula natives can hold their ground, endure fluctuations and emerge stronger.This nakshatra is said to be harmful for fertility, but other factors should also confirm this.The person born in Mula is compassionate, merciful and kind by nature, honest to his work and occupation, he gives respect to others and demands respect from others, habituated to live in a disciplined manner and has leadership abilities.The spouse is often provocative and incite reactivity in the partner. Except spirituality other areas do fit into his quailities. regards, k.gopu--- On Tue, 7/21/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Moola Nakshatra Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 9:47 PM Thank you Sreenadh ji for that beautiful, uplifting note. I am sharing some observations on Mula. Hope members would find them useful.Mula is the celestial ROOT and is supposed to be the centre of Universe. It is said to be ruled by Prajapati. In a rather negative sense in the Vedas, it is said that Mula is ruled by Nirriti who is said to take away the root of one’s progeny or may cause loss of one’s first child. (one may check that point!). However, just because the deity is Nirriti, Mula cannot be just about destruction. Mula is the stage for final transmutation of ego in the triad of Dharma. By virtue of its position in the zodiac, Mula natives are prone to upheavals in their physical, emotional, & social environment. They feel trapped and betrayed by the unjust, unpredictable world. Ketu's gives detachment and Guru gives optimism. So it creates a tendency to push oneself beyond the physical limitations, especially in the mental and spiritual areas. The native is, thus, always prepared to rise spiritually while meditating upon being unattached to worldly objects. Due to this feeling, he also does a lot of charity, even beyond his means, at the cost of annoying his family. Native is specially inclined towards the observance of religious rites and sometimes ends up being superstitious to some extent.Mula natives often appear to be successful and have a cheerful social personality because of Guru, but they become reckless because of disregard for consequences (detached ketu). The impulse to evolve, can make them appear cruel at times to get their way. Creative and growing compulsions often make them seekers. They may never appear to be satisfied because of this compulsion to grow.Mula restricts the movement (rooted), it is finite and limited. The native appears externally capable but internally remains unhappy, as if arrested.Mula natives feel an internal pressure to come up (as in germination) which is very intense. At this stage of development, the soul is aware and has self-knowledge. Thus Mula natives can hold their ground, endure fluctuations and emerge stronger.This nakshatra is said to be harmful for fertility, but other factors should also confirm this.The person born in Mula is compassionate, merciful and kind by nature, honest to his work and occupation, he gives respect to others and demands respect from others, habituated to live in a disciplined manner and has leadership abilities.The spouse is often provocative and incite reactivity in the partner. They are physically agile and active and professionally they like to work in high-stakes environments. They are able to instil faith in their followers, and can influence people with their charisma. There is an uncertainty in occupation and changes may happen in occupation. Extremely enthusiastic in his field of action and is hasty in is desire of making continual progress. There is a feeling of indifference or even contempt towards keeping accounts of income and expenditure.It is believed that loans taken during the Moon's transit through Mula would be difficult to pay back (non-movement) . I have not been able to check that point!Hope this is useful. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Namaste Bhaskarji,May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty seven nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that native would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon becomes aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any other reason?Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Moola Nakshatra Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this has been so advised. Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new house and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a foolish person and brought a wrong house. These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole space in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is in Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > > Sreenadh sreesog > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > Well said! > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No Nakshatra > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither the > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > about. > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always like > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into and > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a viewer > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by going > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather than > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in > > actual Nativity ? > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you check > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars is > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native is > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is dealing > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product, > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also know > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power to > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have the > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than go > > for partnership. > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and the > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in going > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility for > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is placed > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology field. > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this well, > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who do > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides of > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its Lord > > and talking rot. > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must love > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for hatred, > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God has > > given us. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Namaste Sunil ji, Sir, I am just an ordinary astrologer and do not know what happens in the skies above, like the astronomers do. I also do not bother much about the why of many things which we know. Because Life is too short to spend time in gaining such knowledge. If The Gas Lighter makes my Gas light fire, then its okay with me. I dont want to know what are the components of the Gas Lighter or what is the wick made of etc.etc. In Astrology, if BPHS has mentioned about Poojas for certain nakshatras, then its okay with me. I will not spend time for searching texts prior to BPHS and neither meditate to search for Parashar Rishi wherever he may be and try to find telephatically, why he has written so. In any case, doing a Pooja is not a very time consuming or a big monetary involvement, so there is no great curiosity for me to know why this has been mentioned so. But You may be probably able to answer this better than us, with your practical knowledge of the Planets moving in the skies amidst the constellations. regards, Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty seven nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that native would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon becomes aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any other reason? > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Moola Nakshatra > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM > > > > > > > > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this has > > been so advised. > > > > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at > > that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is > > reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is > > going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new house > > and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a > > foolish person and brought a wrong house. > > > > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole space > > in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is in > > Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > > > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results > > will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > > > Well said! > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the > > > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No > > Nakshatra > > > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the > > > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither > > the > > > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > > > about. > > > > > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT > > AVAILABLE > > > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always > > like > > > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into > > and > > > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a > > viewer > > > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by > > going > > > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather > > than > > > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in > > > > actual Nativity ? > > > > > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you > > check > > > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars > > is > > > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native > > is > > > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is > > dealing > > > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product, > > > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also > > know > > > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power > > to > > > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have > > the > > > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be > > > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than > > go > > > > for partnership. > > > > > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and > > the > > > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in > > going > > > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility > > for > > > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may > > > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be > > > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory > > > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is > > placed > > > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology > > field. > > > > > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this > > well, > > > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who > > do > > > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides > > of > > > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up > > > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its > > Lord > > > > and talking rot. > > > > > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must > > love > > > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for > > hatred, > > > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God > > has > > > > given us. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji,I understand that many things may not be written in the astrology books but we are fortunate to have in the AIA several stalwarts like Sreenadhji, Sunil Nairji, Neelamj and others who are very well informed in other allied areas too. I was curious to know if anybody in the group can throw some light the Nakshatra shanti also. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Moola Nakshatra Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:24 AM Namaste Sunil ji, Sir, I am just an ordinary astrologer and do not know what happens in the skies above, like the astronomers do. I also do not bother much about the why of many things which we know. Because Life is too short to spend time in gaining such knowledge. If The Gas Lighter makes my Gas light fire, then its okay with me. I dont want to know what are the components of the Gas Lighter or what is the wick made of etc.etc. In Astrology, if BPHS has mentioned about Poojas for certain nakshatras, then its okay with me. I will not spend time for searching texts prior to BPHS and neither meditate to search for Parashar Rishi wherever he may be and try to find telephatically, why he has written so. In any case, doing a Pooja is not a very time consuming or a big monetary involvement, so there is no great curiosity for me to know why this has been mentioned so. But You may be probably able to answer this better than us, with your practical knowledge of the Planets moving in the skies amidst the constellations. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty seven nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that native would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon becomes aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any other reason? > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM > > > > > > > > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this has > > been so advised. > > > > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at > > that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is > > reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is > > going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new house > > and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a > > foolish person and brought a wrong house. > > > > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole space > > in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is in > > Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > > > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results > > will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > > > Well said! > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or the > > > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No > > Nakshatra > > > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in the > > > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which neither > > the > > > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > > > about. > > > > > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT > > AVAILABLE > > > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always > > like > > > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into > > and > > > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a > > viewer > > > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by > > going > > > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather > > than > > > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula in > > > > actual Nativity ? > > > > > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you > > check > > > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If Mars > > is > > > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the Native > > is > > > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is > > dealing > > > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the Product, > > > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also > > know > > > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the power > > to > > > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have > > the > > > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would be > > > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather than > > go > > > > for partnership. > > > > > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th and > > the > > > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in > > going > > > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility > > for > > > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native may > > > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would be > > > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a proprietory > > > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is > > placed > > > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology > > field. > > > > > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this > > well, > > > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people who > > do > > > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both sides > > of > > > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked up > > > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and its > > Lord > > > > and talking rot. > > > > > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must > > love > > > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for > > hatred, > > > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God > > has > > > > given us. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil ji, and all, But I am sure if a search is made then one will find many reasons astrological - on why Pooja must be done for Moola Nakshatra or Births in such Nakshatras. I never bothered for this never intrigued me . I may also have read it in many of the books written by the writers of this present century but what happens, those points which we do not wish to register, we dont, and move on. Where we wish to search for logic we use our minds, and where we do not, we do otherwise. Again this matter is not really interesting for me , or else I would search and surely find it in my own personal Library of hundreds of books on astrology. Certain dictums we consider as the thruth - which must be done without arguing, and this is one of those. Just like when our elder people used to say, do not speak when in Toilet, or do not drink lot of water while eating, or do not go out during Grahana and do not touch anything, etc.etc. we considered ot as right since the actions we were supposed to do were non obstrusive or non interfering and not pain staking, so its okay. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I understand that many things may not be written in the astrology books but we are fortunate to have in the AIA several stalwarts like Sreenadhji, Sunil Nairji, Neelamj and others who are very well informed in other allied areas too. I was curious to know if anybody in the group can throw some light the Nakshatra shanti also. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Moola Nakshatra > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > Namaste Sunil ji, > > > > Sir, I am just an ordinary astrologer and do not know what happens in > > the skies above, like the astronomers do. I also do not bother much > > about the why of many things which we know. Because Life is too short to > > spend time in gaining such knowledge. If The Gas Lighter makes my Gas > > light fire, then its okay with me. I dont want to know what are the > > components of the Gas Lighter or what is the wick made of etc.etc. > > > > In Astrology, if BPHS has mentioned about Poojas for certain nakshatras, > > then its okay with me. I will not spend time for searching texts prior > > to BPHS and neither meditate to search for Parashar Rishi wherever he > > may be and try to find telephatically, why he has written so. In any > > case, doing a Pooja is not a very time consuming or a big monetary > > involvement, so there is no great curiosity for me to know why this has > > been mentioned so. > > > > But You may be probably able to answer this better than us, with your > > practical knowledge of the Planets moving in the skies amidst the > > constellations. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > > > > > May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty seven > > nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been > > singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the > > Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that native > > would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also > > would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon becomes > > aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any > > other reason? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this > > has > > > > > > been so advised. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at > > > > > > that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is > > > > > > reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is > > > > > > going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new > > house > > > > > > and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a > > > > > > foolish person and brought a wrong house. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole > > space > > > > > > in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil > > Bhattacharjya > > > > > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is > > in > > > > > > Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > > > > > > > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results > > > > > > will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > > > > > > > Well said! > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or > > the > > > > > > > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No > > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > > > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in > > the > > > > > > > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which > > neither > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT > > > > > > AVAILABLE > > > > > > > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > > > > > > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a > > > > > > viewer > > > > > > > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > > > > > > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula > > in > > > > > > > > actual Nativity ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you > > > > > > check > > > > > > > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If > > Mars > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the > > Native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is > > > > > > dealing > > > > > > > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the > > Product, > > > > > > > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the > > power > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would > > be > > > > > > > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather > > than > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > for partnership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native > > may > > > > > > > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would > > be > > > > > > > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a > > proprietory > > > > > > > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology > > > > > > field. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people > > who > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both > > sides > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked > > up > > > > > > > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and > > its > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > and talking rot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for > > > > > > hatred, > > > > > > > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > given us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dear Sunil ji,We've had some good discussions o this topic last year. You will find some write-ups in the archives. I am re-posting one of my old messages which appears to be relevant to what you've sought. Hope this helps. Much of what is given in classics, as we know, is distorted beyond recognition. It is better to study what is available, and follow our logics to see the applicability in modern social milieus. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| For practical purposes, two nakshatras between 8/9 rashis, i.e jyeshtha and Moola are considered as inauspicious and pacification rites are performed on 27th day of birth. Birth in any of these is broadly referred to as Moola birth by pandits. Similarly also, the birth in nakshatras falling at the 12/1 and 4/8 points of Zodiac are called gandanth nakshatras and also sometimes called gandmool nakshatras broadly. These are Rewati, ashwini, ashlesha and Magha. But they should not be confused with moola nakshatra. Coming to Moola nakshatra, which is 0-13.20 sagitarius, is lorded by Ketu, the whole nakshatra is not at all inauspicious. And whatever be the inauspiciousness, it is said to be for native's family, i.e father, mother, grandfather, even cattle, and servants. Kerala savants have divided the whole period of 13.20 into 15 kalas and vikalas. And give the effect of moon in each of these periods. Only when the moon is between 9.46.00 to 10.40.00 will it cause his own death. (though I have never been able to check this dictum). Otherwise, birth in Moola for the native himself is like a birth in any other star, with of course the blend of Moola characters in him. Abhukt moola is a small part of moola. According to Brahmarishi Vashishtha in Puran Rashi, only one ghati after the end of Jyeshtha is Abhukt moola. That means only 24 minutes. The face of the native should not be seen by his father for 8 years if he wants his wellbeing. Jyshthantyaghatiaika cha moolasyaghatidwayam Abhuktmulamityuktam tatrotptrinshishormukhamAshtvarshani nalokyam taten shubamichhta Tadyoshparihararth shantkam prochyoteduna Some have even said that the natives born in abhukt mula should be given up.Bhujang paurandar paushan bhanam tadagra bhanam cha tadantralam Abhukt mulam prahar pramanam tyajet sutam tatra bhavam sutam cha To ward of the ill effects, remedies have been given. There have been some variants of abhukt moola timings. Maharshi Brihaspathi gives last ghati of Jyeshtha and half ghati of Moola as Abhukt moola. Narada takes last 4 ghatis of Jye and first 4 of moola as abhukt, thus taking 8 ghatis. Some other astrologers consider last 8 ghatis of jye and first 5 ghatis of moola as abhukt moola. Whereas some take all nakshatra gandantas as abhukt moola. In my opinion Abhukt mula is a very narrow time period which is supposed to be inauspicious. As with all other principles, we have stretched its limits of tolerance because of our own inefficiencies. We are adopting a no-harm policy in applying precautions and remedies because people have loads of money and there are hoards of pandits out on the prowl. So a layman will like to play safe. If a child is in Moola, even if no harm to him, if a small pooja saves father, no harm!! As serious astrolgers, we must at least think logically where the problem lies and narrow it down to the minimum instead of stretching the tolerance limits to cover the entire spectrum. A day will come when will be propitiating the planets for any child born anywhere. In order to see whether moola is really harmful and to whom, we should go step by step with a process of elimination and reach the inauspiciousness. After checking for gandantha and abhukt mula, one needs to go through the following within the birth in Moola: Which of the 4 quarters or padas of the nakshtras.Paksha and Tithis on which the native is born. A combination of moola with certain tithis is inauspicious.Time of the day, whether it is at sandhi again.The effects of different ghatis is also given by some sages after arranging the ghatis in the shape of man or tree and then seeing in which part the birth ghati falls. Many classics give details about these.Moola has its own 30 muhurta lords (of about 2 ghatis each) of which rakshasa, yatudhan, pita, yama and kaal (1,2,6,8, 9) are supposed to be bad and rest are said to be fine. When inauspiciousness is more from many accounts, we should really get worried. Otherwise, just being born in moola does not make the native go through any adversities.|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||RegardsNeelam 2009/7/22 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Shri Sunil ji, and all, But I am sure if a search is made then one will find many reasons astrological - on why Pooja must be done for Moola Nakshatra or Births in such Nakshatras. I never bothered for this never intrigued me . I may also have read it in many of the books written by the writers of this present century but what happens, those points which we do not wish to register, we dont, and move on. Where we wish to search for logic we use our minds, and where we do not, we do otherwise. Again this matter is not really interesting for me , or else I would search and surely find it in my own personal Library of hundreds of books on astrology. Certain dictums we consider as the thruth - which must be done without arguing, and this is one of those. Just like when our elder people used to say, do not speak when in Toilet, or do not drink lot of water while eating, or do not go out during Grahana and do not touch anything, etc.etc. we considered ot as right since the actions we were supposed to do were non obstrusive or non interfering and not pain staking, so its okay. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I understand that many things may not be written in the astrology books but we are fortunate to have in the AIA several stalwarts like Sreenadhji, Sunil Nairji, Neelamj and others who are very well informed in other allied areas too. I was curious to know if anybody in the group can throw some light the Nakshatra shanti also. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Moola Nakshatra > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > Namaste Sunil ji, > > > > Sir, I am just an ordinary astrologer and do not know what happens in > > the skies above, like the astronomers do. I also do not bother much > > about the why of many things which we know. Because Life is too short to > > spend time in gaining such knowledge. If The Gas Lighter makes my Gas > > light fire, then its okay with me. I dont want to know what are the > > components of the Gas Lighter or what is the wick made of etc.etc. > > > > In Astrology, if BPHS has mentioned about Poojas for certain nakshatras, > > then its okay with me. I will not spend time for searching texts prior > > to BPHS and neither meditate to search for Parashar Rishi wherever he > > may be and try to find telephatically, why he has written so. In any > > case, doing a Pooja is not a very time consuming or a big monetary > > involvement, so there is no great curiosity for me to know why this has > > been mentioned so. > > > > But You may be probably able to answer this better than us, with your > > practical knowledge of the Planets moving in the skies amidst the > > constellations. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > > > > > May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty seven > > nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been > > singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the > > Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that native > > would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also > > would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon becomes > > aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any > > other reason? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this > > has > > > > > > been so advised. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at > > > > > > that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is > > > > > > reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is > > > > > > going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new > > house > > > > > > and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a > > > > > > foolish person and brought a wrong house. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole > > space > > > > > > in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil > > Bhattacharjya > > > > > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is > > in > > > > > > Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > > > > > > > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results > > > > > > will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > > > > > > > Well said! > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or > > the > > > > > > > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No > > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > > > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in > > the > > > > > > > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which > > neither > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT > > > > > > AVAILABLE > > > > > > > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > > > > > > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a > > > > > > viewer > > > > > > > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > > > > > > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula > > in > > > > > > > > actual Nativity ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you > > > > > > check > > > > > > > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If > > Mars > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the > > Native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is > > > > > > dealing > > > > > > > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the > > Product, > > > > > > > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the > > power > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would > > be > > > > > > > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather > > than > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > for partnership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native > > may > > > > > > > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would > > be > > > > > > > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a > > proprietory > > > > > > > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology > > > > > > field. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people > > who > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both > > sides > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked > > up > > > > > > > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and > > its > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > and talking rot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for > > > > > > hatred, > > > > > > > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > given us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Dear Neelamji,You have given so much information, many times more than I expected. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 7/22/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Moola Nakshatra Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 7:37 AM Dear Sunil ji,We've had some good discussions o this topic last year. You will find some write-ups in the archives. I am re-posting one of my old messages which appears to be relevant to what you've sought. Hope this helps. Much of what is given in classics, as we know, is distorted beyond recognition. It is better to study what is available, and follow our logics to see the applicability in modern social milieus. |||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||| For practical purposes, two nakshatras between 8/9 rashis, i.e jyeshtha and Moola are considered as inauspicious and pacification rites are performed on 27th day of birth. Birth in any of these is broadly referred to as Moola birth by pandits. Similarly also, the birth in nakshatras falling at the 12/1 and 4/8 points of Zodiac are called gandanth nakshatras and also sometimes called gandmool nakshatras broadly. These are Rewati, ashwini, ashlesha and Magha. But they should not be confused with moola nakshatra. Coming to Moola nakshatra, which is 0-13.20 sagitarius, is lorded by Ketu, the whole nakshatra is not at all inauspicious. And whatever be the inauspiciousness, it is said to be for native's family, i.e father, mother, grandfather, even cattle, and servants. Kerala savants have divided the whole period of 13.20 into 15 kalas and vikalas. And give the effect of moon in each of these periods. Only when the moon is between 9.46.00 to 10.40.00 will it cause his own death. (though I have never been able to check this dictum). Otherwise, birth in Moola for the native himself is like a birth in any other star, with of course the blend of Moola characters in him. Abhukt moola is a small part of moola. According to Brahmarishi Vashishtha in Puran Rashi, only one ghati after the end of Jyeshtha is Abhukt moola. That means only 24 minutes. The face of the native should not be seen by his father for 8 years if he wants his wellbeing. Jyshthantyaghatiaik a cha moolasyaghatidwayam Abhuktmulamityuktam tatrotptrinshishorm ukhamAshtvarshani nalokyam taten shubamichhta Tadyoshparihararth shantkam prochyoteduna Some have even said that the natives born in abhukt mula should be given up.Bhujang paurandar paushan bhanam tadagra bhanam cha tadantralam Abhukt mulam prahar pramanam tyajet sutam tatra bhavam sutam cha To ward of the ill effects, remedies have been given. There have been some variants of abhukt moola timings. Maharshi Brihaspathi gives last ghati of Jyeshtha and half ghati of Moola as Abhukt moola. Narada takes last 4 ghatis of Jye and first 4 of moola as abhukt, thus taking 8 ghatis. Some other astrologers consider last 8 ghatis of jye and first 5 ghatis of moola as abhukt moola. Whereas some take all nakshatra gandantas as abhukt moola. In my opinion Abhukt mula is a very narrow time period which is supposed to be inauspicious. As with all other principles, we have stretched its limits of tolerance because of our own inefficiencies. We are adopting a no-harm policy in applying precautions and remedies because people have loads of money and there are hoards of pandits out on the prowl. So a layman will like to play safe. If a child is in Moola, even if no harm to him, if a small pooja saves father, no harm!! As serious astrolgers, we must at least think logically where the problem lies and narrow it down to the minimum instead of stretching the tolerance limits to cover the entire spectrum. A day will come when will be propitiating the planets for any child born anywhere. In order to see whether moola is really harmful and to whom, we should go step by step with a process of elimination and reach the inauspiciousness. After checking for gandantha and abhukt mula, one needs to go through the following within the birth in Moola: Which of the 4 quarters or padas of the nakshtras.Paksha and Tithis on which the native is born. A combination of moola with certain tithis is inauspicious.Time of the day, whether it is at sandhi again.The effects of different ghatis is also given by some sages after arranging the ghatis in the shape of man or tree and then seeing in which part the birth ghati falls. Many classics give details about these.Moola has its own 30 muhurta lords (of about 2 ghatis each) of which rakshasa, yatudhan, pita, yama and kaal (1,2,6,8, 9) are supposed to be bad and rest are said to be fine. When inauspiciousness is more from many accounts, we should really get worried. Otherwise, just being born in moola does not make the native go through any adversities.|||||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| ||||||||| |||||||RegardsNeelam 2009/7/22 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear Shri Sunil ji, and all, But I am sure if a search is made then one will find many reasons astrological - on why Pooja must be done for Moola Nakshatra or Births in such Nakshatras. I never bothered for this never intrigued me . I may also have read it in many of the books written by the writers of this present century but what happens, those points which we do not wish to register, we dont, and move on. Where we wish to search for logic we use our minds, and where we do not, we do otherwise. Again this matter is not really interesting for me , or else I would search and surely find it in my own personal Library of hundreds of books on astrology. Certain dictums we consider as the thruth - which must be done without arguing, and this is one of those. Just like when our elder people used to say, do not speak when in Toilet, or do not drink lot of water while eating, or do not go out during Grahana and do not touch anything, etc.etc. we considered ot as right since the actions we were supposed to do were non obstrusive or non interfering and not pain staking, so its okay. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I understand that many things may not be written in the astrology books but we are fortunate to have in the AIA several stalwarts like Sreenadhji, Sunil Nairji, Neelamj and others who are very well informed in other allied areas too. I was curious to know if anybody in the group can throw some light the Nakshatra shanti also. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > Namaste Sunil ji, > > > > Sir, I am just an ordinary astrologer and do not know what happens in > > the skies above, like the astronomers do. I also do not bother much > > about the why of many things which we know. Because Life is too short to > > spend time in gaining such knowledge. If The Gas Lighter makes my Gas > > light fire, then its okay with me. I dont want to know what are the > > components of the Gas Lighter or what is the wick made of etc.etc. > > > > In Astrology, if BPHS has mentioned about Poojas for certain nakshatras, > > then its okay with me. I will not spend time for searching texts prior > > to BPHS and neither meditate to search for Parashar Rishi wherever he > > may be and try to find telephatically, why he has written so. In any > > case, doing a Pooja is not a very time consuming or a big monetary > > involvement, so there is no great curiosity for me to know why this has > > been mentioned so. > > > > But You may be probably able to answer this better than us, with your > > practical knowledge of the Planets moving in the skies amidst the > > constellations. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > > > > > May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty seven > > nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been > > singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the > > Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that native > > would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also > > would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon becomes > > aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any > > other reason? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this > > has > > > > > > been so advised. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done at > > > > > > that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit is > > > > > > reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage is > > > > > > going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new > > house > > > > > > and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a > > > > > > foolish person and brought a wrong house. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole > > space > > > > > > in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil > > Bhattacharjya > > > > > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon is > > in > > > > > > Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say - > > > > > > > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results > > > > > > will come in the natives Life in a particular period. // > > > > > > > Well said! > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or > > the > > > > > > > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No > > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > > > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in > > the > > > > > > > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which > > neither > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system know > > > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT > > > > > > AVAILABLE > > > > > > > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS IS > > > > > > > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would always > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is into > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a > > > > > > viewer > > > > > > > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject by > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as > > > > > > > > mentioned in the Text Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula > > in > > > > > > > > actual Nativity ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you > > > > > > check > > > > > > > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If > > Mars > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the > > Native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is > > > > > > dealing > > > > > > > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the > > Product, > > > > > > > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the > > power > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also have > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It would > > be > > > > > > > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather > > than > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > for partnership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time in > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the availibility > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native > > may > > > > > > > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it would > > be > > > > > > > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a > > proprietory > > > > > > > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and is > > > > > > placed > > > > > > > > in the Nakshatra of Mars . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the astrology > > > > > > field. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand this > > > > > > well, > > > > > > > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people > > who > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both > > sides > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words picked > > up > > > > > > > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and > > its > > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > > and talking rot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and must > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for > > > > > > hatred, > > > > > > > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great God > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > given us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Dear ones, almost everything was already posted by Neelamji and Bhaskar ji but since i share the same nakshatra a few tidbits.... Its Deity is Nirriti(calamity). proud,rich,happy,good,steady and enjoying. It is opposed to riches since its other name alakshmi. science and phylosophy are under its perview Its also significator of mortgage. profession---Old servents,skilled,medicine specially herbal. since its lord is ketu the moksha karaka,and it is situated in Guru's mool trikona sign it is considered to be highly spiritual.Moola dhara chakra is also represented by this since it is at the base of the spinal cord. Love and regards, gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > We've had some good discussions o this topic last year. You will find some> write-ups in the archives. I am re-posting one of my old messages which> appears to be relevant to what you've sought. Hope this helps.> Much of what is given in classics, as we know, is distorted beyond> recognition. It is better to study what is available, and follow our logics> to see the applicability in modern social milieus.> > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||> > For practical purposes, two nakshatras between 8/9 rashis, i.e jyeshtha and> Moola are considered as inauspicious and pacification rites are performed on> 27th day of birth. Birth in any of these is broadly referred to as> Moolabirth by pandits.> > Similarly also, the birth in nakshatras falling at the 12/1 and 4/8 points> of Zodiac are called gandanth nakshatras and also sometimes called gandmool> nakshatras broadly. These are Rewati, ashwini, ashlesha and Magha. But they> should not be confused with moola nakshatra.> > Coming to Moola nakshatra, which is 0-13.20 sagitarius, is lorded by Ketu,> the whole nakshatra is not at all inauspicious. And whatever be the> inauspiciousness, it is said to be for native's family, i.e father, mother,> grandfather, even cattle, and servants. Kerala savants have divided the> whole period of 13.20 into 15 kalas and vikalas. And give the effect of moon> in each of these periods. Only when the moon is between 9.46.00 to 10.40.00> will it cause his own death. (though I have never been able to check this> dictum).> > Otherwise, birth in Moola for the native himself is like a birth in any> other star, with of course the blend of Moola characters in him.> > Abhukt moola is a small part of moola.> According to Brahmarishi Vashishtha in Puran Rashi, only one ghati after the> end of Jyeshtha is Abhukt moola. That means only 24 minutes. The face of the> native should not be seen by his father for 8 years if he wants his> wellbeing.> Jyshthantyaghatiaika cha moolasyaghatidwayam> Abhuktmulamityuktam tatrotptrinshishormukham> Ashtvarshani nalokyam taten shubamichhta> Tadyoshparihararth shantkam prochyoteduna> > Some have even said that the natives born in abhukt mula should be given up.> > Bhujang paurandar paushan bhanam tadagra bhanam cha tadantralam> Abhukt mulam prahar pramanam tyajet sutam tatra bhavam sutam cha> > To ward of the ill effects, remedies have been given.> > There have been some variants of abhukt moola timings. Maharshi Brihaspathi> gives last ghati of Jyeshtha and half ghati of Moola as Abhukt moola. Narada> takes last 4 ghatis of Jye and first 4 of moola as abhukt, thus taking 8> ghatis. Some other astrologers consider last 8 ghatis of jye and first 5> ghatis of moola as abhukt moola. Whereas some take all nakshatra gandantas> as abhukt moola.> > In my opinion Abhukt mula is a very narrow time period which is> supposed tobe inauspicious. As with all other principles, we have> stretched its limits> of tolerance because of our own inefficiencies. We are adopting a no-harm> policy in applying precautions and remedies because people have loads of> money and there are hoards of pandits out on the prowl. So a layman will> like to play safe. If a child is in Moola, even if no harm to him, if a> small pooja saves father, no harm!!> > As serious astrolgers, we must at least think logically where the problem> lies and narrow it down to the minimum instead of stretching the tolerance> limits to cover the entire spectrum. A day will come when will be> propitiating the planets for any child born anywhere.> > In order to see whether moola is really harmful and to whom, we should go> step by step with a process of elimination and reach the inauspiciousness.> > After checking for gandantha and abhukt mula, one needs to go through the> following within the birth in Moola:> > - Which of the 4 quarters or padas of the nakshtras.> - Paksha and Tithis on which the native is born. A combination of> moolawith certain tithis is inauspicious.> - Time of the day, whether it is at sandhi again.> - The effects of different ghatis is also given by some sages after> arranging the ghatis in the shape of man or tree and then seeing in which> part the birth ghati falls. Many classics give details about these.> - Moola has its own 30 muhurta lords (of about 2 ghatis each) of which> rakshasa, yatudhan, pita, yama and kaal (1,2,6,8, 9) are supposed to be> bad and rest are said to be fine.> > When inauspiciousness is more from many accounts, we should really get> worried. Otherwise, just being born in moola does not make the native go> through any adversities.> > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/7/22 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > >> >> >> > Dear Shri Sunil ji, and all,> >> > But I am sure if a search is made then one will find many reasons> > astrological - on why Pooja must be done for Moola Nakshatra or Births> > in such Nakshatras. I never bothered for this never intrigued me . I may> > also have read it in many of the books written by the writers of this> > present century but what happens, those points which we do not wish to> > register, we dont, and move on. Where we wish to search for logic we use> > our minds, and where we do not, we do otherwise. Again this matter is> > not really interesting for me , or else I would search and surely find> > it in my own personal Library of hundreds of books on astrology.> >> > Certain dictums we consider as the thruth - which must be done without> > arguing, and this is one of those. Just like when our elder people used> > to say, do not speak when in Toilet, or do not drink lot of water while> > eating, or do not go out during Grahana and do not touch anything,> > etc.etc. we considered ot as right since the actions we were supposed to> > do were non obstrusive or non interfering and not pain staking, so its> > okay.> >> > best wishes,> >> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > <%40>,> > Sunil Bhattacharjya> > sunil_bhattacharjya@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > I understand that many things may not be written in the astrology> > books but we are fortunate to have in the AIA several stalwarts like> > Sreenadhji, Sunil Nairji, Neelamj and others who are very well informed> > in other allied areas too. I was curious to know if anybody in the group> > can throw some light the Nakshatra shanti also.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Moola Nakshatra> > > <%40>> > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:24 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste Sunil ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir, I am just an ordinary astrologer and do not know what happens in> > >> > > the skies above, like the astronomers do. I also do not bother much> > >> > > about the why of many things which we know. Because Life is too short> > to> > >> > > spend time in gaining such knowledge. If The Gas Lighter makes my Gas> > >> > > light fire, then its okay with me. I dont want to know what are the> > >> > > components of the Gas Lighter or what is the wick made of etc.etc.> > >> > >> > >> > > In Astrology, if BPHS has mentioned about Poojas for certain> > nakshatras,> > >> > > then its okay with me. I will not spend time for searching texts prior> > >> > > to BPHS and neither meditate to search for Parashar Rishi wherever he> > >> > > may be and try to find telephatically, why he has written so. In any> > >> > > case, doing a Pooja is not a very time consuming or a big monetary> > >> > > involvement, so there is no great curiosity for me to know why this> > has> > >> > > been mentioned so.> > >> > >> > >> > > But You may be probably able to answer this better than us, with your> > >> > > practical knowledge of the Planets moving in the skies amidst the> > >> > > constellations.> > >> > >> > >> > > regards,> > >> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil> > Bhattacharjya> > >> > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Namaste Bhaskarji,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > May I reframe my question? My question is why out of the twenty> > seven> > >> > > nakshatras the Moola nakshatra and a couple of others only have been> > >> > > singled out for the Nakshatra shanti. To my mind taking birth in the> > >> > > Moola nakshatra is ceratinly not bad for the native. In fact that> > native> > >> > > would be the most beautiful / handsome in the family and he / she also> > >> > > would have prosperity too. Is it because the Earth and the Moon> > becomes> > >> > > aligned with the centre of the Galaxy when the birth occurs or for any> > >> > > other reason?> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Regards,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > >> > > >> > >> > > > --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > >> > > > Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:15 AM> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Some basic books on astrology will have to be read, to know why this> > >> > > has> > >> > > >> > >> > > > been so advised.> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Even Pooja is advised at time of marriage and Graha Shanti is done> > at> > >> > > >> > >> > > > that time too, for those who can understand what Mantras the Pundit> > is> > >> > > >> > >> > > > reciting. This does not mean that the match is bad or the marriage> > is> > >> > > >> > >> > > > going to prove evil. Even Graha Shanti is done when one buys a new> > >> > > house> > >> > > >> > >> > > > and before he begins staying in it. This does not mean that he was a> > >> > > >> > >> > > > foolish person and brought a wrong house.> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > These are done just for arishta nivarana and not because the whole> > >> > > space> > >> > > >> > >> > > > in the sky holding the Stars which make the Moola Nakshatra, are> > evil.> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil> > >> > > Bhattacharjya> > >> > > >> > >> > > > <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Why then we advise that Moola shanti sould be done when the Moon> > is> > >> > > in> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Moola Nakshatra in a native's horoscope.?> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Regards,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Moola Nakshatra> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:56 AM> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > That was an informative mail. I absolutly agree when you say -> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > //No Nakshatra is bad or good. It just represents how the results> > >> > > >> > >> > > > will come in the natives Life in a particular period. //> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Well said!> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Love and regards,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Sreenadh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > >> > > >> > >> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Those who wish may discuss amongst themselves from the texts or> > >> > > the> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > websites and argue like never before. But the fact is that No> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Nakshatra> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > is bad or good. It just represents how the results will come in> > >> > > the> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > natives Life in a particular period. This is something which> > >> > > neither> > >> > > >> > >> > > > the> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Traditionalists nor the KP's or followers of any other system> > know> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > about.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > NOW READ THE BELOW PART OF THE MAIL PROPERLY FOR THIS IS NOT> > >> > > >> > >> > > > AVAILABLE> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > WRITTEN IN ANY BOOK OF ASTROLOGY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND THIS> > IS> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > ACTUAL INDIAN ASTROLOGY.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > When a person has his Moon in the Mula Nakshatra, he would> > always> > >> > > >> > >> > > > like> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > to go to the bottom of any subject or line of activity he is> > into> > >> > > >> > >> > > > and> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > learn everything about it, and would never like to remain just a> > >> > > >> > >> > > > viewer> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > or a student, but would want to attain Mastery over the subject> > by> > >> > > >> > >> > > > going> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > deep into study till the roots of the subject he is into, rather> > >> > > >> > >> > > > than> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > playing second fiddle and just applying rules Ad verbatim or as> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned in the Text Books.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > So is this benefic or Malefic ? How to apply the results of Mula> > >> > > in> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > actual Nativity ?> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Take the case of a person with Mars in Moola Nakshatra. Now you> > >> > > >> > >> > > > check> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > the Lord of which houses is Mars for that particular native. If> > >> > > Mars> > >> > > >> > >> > > > is> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Lord of the 11th and the 6th house in Mula Nakshatra, and the> > >> > > Native> > >> > > >> > >> > > > is> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > a Business man, then he would be a Master of the Product he is> > >> > > >> > >> > > > dealing> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > with. He would know the best sources of availibility of the> > >> > > Product,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > will know how it is manufactured, or produced, and he would also> > >> > > >> > >> > > > know> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > the Market trends, and the Demand Statistics, and wil have the> > >> > > power> > >> > > >> > >> > > > to> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > get the lowest price when purchasing the same, and would also> > have> > >> > > >> > >> > > > the> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > knowledge to get the highest selling price for the same. It> > would> > >> > > be> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > utmost important for him to be a Proprietor of his firm rather> > >> > > than> > >> > > >> > >> > > > go> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > for partnership.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Now take another case where the same Mars is the Lord of the 5th> > >> > > and> > >> > > >> > >> > > > the> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > 10th lord in Mula Nakshatra. This native would waste much time> > in> > >> > > >> > >> > > > going> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > deep in the sources of the product or in finding the> > availibility> > >> > > >> > >> > > > for> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > the same, and may not receive half the gains as the above native> > >> > > may> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > receive. In fact others may gain much from this man, and it> > would> > >> > > be> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > better if he partners with them rather than going for a> > >> > > proprietory> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > concern. Why ? I leave this to the readers to use their brains.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > When will these effects come in the Natives Life ?> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Whenever any planet in his Horoscope, runs an antardasha , and> > is> > >> > > >> > >> > > > placed> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > in the Nakshatra of Mars .> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > The last 2 Lines are the Golden rule for success in the> > astrology> > >> > > >> > >> > > > field.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Read the above mail, a number of times in order to understand> > this> > >> > > >> > >> > > > well,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > for I am not available to discuss on stupid matters, with people> > >> > > who> > >> > > >> > >> > > > do> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > not know real astrology and neither have the sense to see both> > >> > > sides> > >> > > >> > >> > > > of> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > the planets, good and bad , and are just biased with words> > picked> > >> > > up> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > from here and there, and applying recklessly to every house and> > >> > > its> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Lord> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > and talking rot.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > In Astrology those who wish success must remain unbiased, and> > must> > >> > > >> > >> > > > love> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > all the planets and all the Nakshatras equally with no place for> > >> > > >> > >> > > > hatred,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > inequality or injustice towards these pointers which the Great> > God> > >> > > >> > >> > > > has> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > given us.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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