Rahu_ 3H

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Dear members,

 

The karaka for brothers - Mars, Jupiter. 3H is for younger co-born.

Placement of Rahu here indicates - NO more co-born. Corollary of it is

the chart or native becomes the youngest in the family. This is a

finding by Sri K.N. Rao in his research studies, but he has not

explained the answer - Why ??.

 

Placement of any malefic in the 3H a upachaya house, should be

increasing the qualities of that house

 

1) malefics in 6H can do good then why not 3H ?? Why should it deny

co-born ??

 

Not necessary in all cases, it depends upon other conditions in the

hororscope including the navamsa placement. {I do not like to go into

Divisional charts or Vargas for to me such charts may not be in

practical use considering the ancient system did not have calculators

and ACCURATE birth time..etc. controversies...}

 

However, any malefic retrograde or deb. indicates there has been a death

before the birth of the native .... i.e. possible death of earlier

co-born !!!

 

Some riders... {seems little stupid...}

 

1) Brothers/Sisters...etc... are all children of a mother i.e. Mother

represented by 4H. 3H is 12H from 4H. Cause for some grief ?

 

2) 2H is for family. 3H is 2H from 2H. Benefics indicates growth.

Malefics indicates division.

 

Now link these two lines...to make a new 3rd statement.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Mr. Srinivas,

 

Shri K.N. Rao has very clearly explained the logic and he has no where mentioned

that Rahu's placement would make you the youngest. Kindly cross-check. What he

has explained it that it (Rahu's placement) in third house or eleventh house

makes one the youngest or the eldest or the only child in the same sex in the

family. Finer Techniques of Astrological Predictions Vol. II and Karma and

Rebirth by Shri K.N. Rao have the answers too.

 

regards,

 

Manoj

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Dear Mr. Manoj ji,

 

Agree....Sri K.N.Rao mentioned..

 

//it (Rahu's placement) in third house or eleventh house makes one the

youngest or the eldest or the only child in the same sex in the family//

 

I do not access to the book currently, my memory recall - he has not

mentioned the technical astro reasons.... in terms of sign-planet-house.

Would request you to kindly share the bullet points for discussion in

the group.....

 

Extending the logic ..... should I apply Rahu in 5H denial of children

or Rahu in 7H denial of wife ?? So there is much to it than what is

mentioned in that book is my preposition, which we need to investigate.

{i.e. interpretations part}

 

Note: I have immense respect for Sri K.N. Rao and learnt things from

him, yet my view point is of a astro_student than anything..... with

intent to probe further.....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Sreeram ji,

I think what Sh Rao has said is more of a study of observation applied on

thousands of charts. So much so that he feels confident to use it as one of

the parameters to check the correctness of lagna.

Somewhere he has also mentioned Rahu eclipsing in the house, though I don't

recollect where.

 

Regarding the malefics giving good results in upchaysthans, it is not

maintained for JEEV. Even mars himself the karak may cause deficiency

related to siblings being a malefic.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

 

 

2009/5/27 sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

 

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Manoj ji,

>

> Agree....Sri K.N.Rao mentioned..

>

> //it (Rahu's placement) in third house or eleventh house makes one the

> youngest or the eldest or the only child in the same sex in the family//

>

> I do not access to the book currently, my memory recall - he has not

> mentioned the technical astro reasons.... in terms of sign-planet-house.

> Would request you to kindly share the bullet points for discussion in

> the group.....

>

> Extending the logic ..... should I apply Rahu in 5H denial of children

> or Rahu in 7H denial of wife ?? So there is much to it than what is

> mentioned in that book is my preposition, which we need to investigate.

> {i.e. interpretations part}

>

> Note: I have immense respect for Sri K.N. Rao and learnt things from

> him, yet my view point is of a astro_student than anything..... with

> intent to probe further.....

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

>

>

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Dear Seniors,

 

I have Rahu in 11H (pisces) .... I am the youngest of my siblings.

(of total 6 brothers & sisters together at present).

 

Regarding my elder siblings, the third one died stillborn.

 

My wife has Ketu (+Mercury) in 11H. She is the youngest of

her siblings (one elder brother).

 

Regarding Rahu or any malefic in 5H and denial of offspring,

My wife has Rahu & I have Ketu in 5H. We have two sons.

 

May be Rahu (or Ketu also) behaves like malefic in many

cases ...but result should differ based on good/bad aspects

it gets and condition of depositor.

 

regards

 

P L Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

sreeram srinivas [sreeram64]Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Rahu_ 3H

 

Dear Mr. Manoj ji,Agree....Sri K.N.Rao mentioned..//it (Rahu's placement) in third house or eleventh house makes one theyoungest or the eldest or the only child in the same sex in the family//I do not access to the book currently, my memory recall - he has notmentioned the technical astro reasons.... in terms of sign-planet-house.Would request you to kindly share the bullet points for discussion inthe group.....Extending the logic ..... should I apply Rahu in 5H denial of childrenor Rahu in 7H denial of wife ?? So there is much to it than what ismentioned in that book is my preposition, which we need to investigate.{i.e. interpretations part}Note: I have immense respect for Sri K.N. Rao and learnt things fromhim, yet my view point is of a astro_student than anything..... withintent to probe further.....With regards,Sreeram_SrinivasThis Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Namaste Neelam ji,

 

Your point is correct and I agree to it. Sri K.N. Rao observations are

brilliant - No doubts on that. Extending the logic...as in my

previous mail...Rahu to take that eclipse effect...then its worst

placement is Lagna.....My focus is what is that Rahu gives and what it

actually denies when placed in chart.....

 

To my knowledge of .... and members ...many people common

placements often seen for Rahu in a hororscope is - Lagna, 7H, 9H, 10H.

Some where read earlier in a group few years back...Rahu in 10H is good

for astrology. But Rahu there does not seems to deny anything on

Career...infact gives filip to career...atleast in modern day times....

 

Good to know that Sreenadh does not have much to contribute from his

ancient slokas....such is the power of Rahu.... or Presence of Rahu.

 

Waiting for him & Mr. Manoj to share the thoughts ...on this subject....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Neelam ji, Manoj ji, and Srinivas ji, With full respect to KN Rao ji (I am yet to read any of his books) since you all learned from him, my question is - "What ever KN Rao says, What do the classics say?". I believe the astro classics should be given preferance, priority and authenticity than the words of KN Rao ji. Further many of KN Rao ji's methods (as I came to know from many discussions happened in this group), are NOT in tune with the ancient teachings and system - i.e. the teachings of Arsha school of astrology. So instead of treating KN Rao ji as a authority (of course his words can be a pointer), I would prefer to collect the guidance and info directly from astro classics, and derive our own conclusion here in this group itself based on charts available to us from within this group itself.Love and regards,Sreenadh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sreeram ji,> I think what Sh Rao has said is more of a study of observation applied on> thousands of charts. So much so that he feels confident to use it as one of> the parameters to check the correctness of lagna.> Somewhere he has also mentioned Rahu eclipsing in the house, though I don't> recollect where.> > Regarding the malefics giving good results in upchaysthans, it is not> maintained for JEEV. Even mars himself the karak may cause deficiency> related to siblings being a malefic.> > Regards> Neelam

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If rahu in the forth house then but.--- On Wed, 27/5/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Rahu_ 3H Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 7:44 AM

 

 

Dear Sreeram ji,I think what Sh Rao has said is more of a study of observation applied onthousands of charts. So much so that he feels confident to use it as one ofthe parameters to check the correctness of lagna.Somewhere he has also mentioned Rahu eclipsing in the house, though I don'trecollect where.Regarding the malefics giving good results in upchaysthans, it is notmaintained for JEEV. Even mars himself the karak may cause deficiencyrelated to siblings being a malefic.RegardsNeelam2009/5/27 sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com>>>>> Dear Mr. Manoj ji,>> Agree....Sri K.N.Rao mentioned..>> //it (Rahu's placement) in third house or eleventh house makes one the> youngest or the

eldest or the only child in the same sex in the family//>> I do not access to the book currently, my memory recall - he has not> mentioned the technical astro reasons.... in terms of sign-planet- house.> Would request you to kindly share the bullet points for discussion in> the group.....>> Extending the logic ..... should I apply Rahu in 5H denial of children> or Rahu in 7H denial of wife ?? So there is much to it than what is> mentioned in that book is my preposition, which we need to investigate.> {i.e. interpretations part}>> Note: I have immense respect for Sri K.N. Rao and learnt things from> him, yet my view point is of a astro_student than anything.... . with> intent to probe further.....>> With regards,>> Sreeram_Srinivas>> >

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Dear Srinivas ji,//Good to know that Sreenadh does not have much to contribute from his ancient slokas...// Wrong! I have good amount of info to contribute on this and that is why I caught this thread. But of course, as usual, I would love to fire late. [Means, preparing a lengthy mail, by referring the ancient texts is well done, sitting late night at the serenity of home only; and not in these office hours Of course my collection of ancient slokas is good, unique and strong. ]Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Namaste Neelam ji,> > Your point is correct and I agree to it. Sri K.N. Rao observations are> brilliant - No doubts on that. Extending the logic...as in my> previous mail...Rahu to take that eclipse effect...then its worst> placement is Lagna.....My focus is what is that Rahu gives and what it> actually denies when placed in chart.....> > To my knowledge of .... and members ...many people common> placements often seen for Rahu in a hororscope is - Lagna, 7H, 9H, 10H. > Some where read earlier in a group few years back...Rahu in 10H is good> for astrology. But Rahu there does not seems to deny anything on> Career...infact gives filip to career...atleast in modern day times....> > Good to know that Sreenadh does not have much to contribute from his> ancient slokas....such is the power of Rahu.... or Presence of Rahu.> > Waiting for him & Mr. Manoj to share the thoughts ...on this subject....> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas>

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Dear Friend,

 

Upto you. Its entirely an individual's belief.

 

best regards,

 

Manoj

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Dear Mr. Manoj & Sreenadh,

In this case, we are only discussing Rahu's effect in 3H & 11H specifically, why it is denying co-born. When the same Rahu in 7H does not seem to deny wife !! Similarly Rahu in 10H is good for career. { NO "jobless" state effect}

The point of youngest or eldest is not a point of debate.... the question is Rahu behavior in respective houses.

As per mythology Rahu is born after penance by the parents { read only mother}.... i.e. case of delayed or assisted birth... also happens to be the only child i.e. Eldest or Youngest of the same gender.

So can we read that Rahu in 5H is not denial but case of delayed or assisted child births ??

Agree to Mr. Manoj's point as retold from Sri K.N. Rao's observation from his research studies. An observation may not have any ancient astro basis.... we are trying to probe- why it is so predominant in 3H while simiar effect is not felt in other house .....

Methods can vary from Arsha's school... so long logics are good, we can always consider....

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Sri Sreeram ji and group members,

Namaskar.

As regards to placement of Rahu in 5th I have few points. My father had Rahu in

Aries. Earlier two of my elder brothers died in infancy. I was born at his late

age. We both didn't have good harmony. In a way I can say he didn't get full

happiness from me. In my case I also have Rahu in 5th in Aries. There was no

problem during birth of my first son but we too have many difference of opinions

and outlooks towards Life. My son too has Rahu in 5th in Cancer. He is not yet

married hence cann't say more about him.

After my son's birth there were three abortions and in mid forties I got 2nd

son. From my experience I can say definitely that Rahu has not denied children

and sons but it denies satisfaction/ happiness from the children.

Regards,

Rajendra

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mr. Manoj & Sreenadh,

>

> In this case, we are only discussing Rahu's effect in 3H & 11H

> specifically, why it is denying co-born. When the same Rahu in 7H does

> not seem to deny wife !! Similarly Rahu in 10H is good for career. { NO

> " jobless " state effect}

>

> The point of youngest or eldest is not a point of debate.... the

> question is Rahu behavior in respective houses.

>

> As per mythology Rahu is born after penance by the parents { read only

> mother}.... i.e. case of delayed or assisted birth... also happens to be

> the only child i.e. Eldest or Youngest of the same gender.

>

> So can we read that Rahu in 5H is not denial but case of delayed or

> assisted child births ??

>

> Agree to Mr. Manoj's point as retold from Sri K.N. Rao's observation

> from his research studies. An observation may not have any ancient

> astro basis.... we are trying to probe- why it is so predominant in 3H

> while simiar effect is not felt in other house .....

>

> Methods can vary from Arsha's school... so long logics are good, we can

> always consider....

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

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Dear Mr. Rajendra ji,

 

Thanks for the sincere feedback...... it helps astrology. Can you

post the birth data..... yours + your father's + your son ??

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear SSji,

You wrote -

In this case,  we are only discussing Rahu's effect in 3H & 11H specifically,

why it is denying co-born.  When the same Rahu in 7H does not seem to deny wife

!!  Similarly Rahu in 10H is good for career. { NO " jobless " state effect}

Rahu in 10th house may have its good effects but is not without upheavels. I

speak from my own chart's experience.

I guess that it would have similar effects - in varying degress - for other

houses as well - save for some where it gets special powers, sthan bala etc.

 

 

Chiranjiv Mehta

 

 

--- On Wed, 27/5/09, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

 

 

sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

Re: Rahu_ 3H

 

Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 2:51 PM

 

 

Dear Mr. Manoj & Sreenadh,

In this case,  we are only discussing Rahu's effect in 3H & 11H specifically,

why it is denying co-born.  When the same Rahu in 7H does not seem to deny wife

!!  Similarly Rahu in 10H is good for career. { NO " jobless " state effect}

The point of youngest or eldest is not a point of debate.... the question is

Rahu behavior in respective houses.  

As per mythology  Rahu is born after penance by the parents { read only

mother}.... i.e. case of delayed or assisted birth... also happens to be the

only child i.e. Eldest or Youngest of the same gender.

So can we read that Rahu in 5H is not denial but case of delayed or assisted

child births ?? 

Agree to Mr. Manoj's point as retold from Sri K.N. Rao's observation from his

research studies.  An observation may not have any ancient astro basis.....  we

are trying to probe- why it is so predominant in 3H while simiar effect is not

felt in other house .....

Methods can vary from Arsha's school... so long logics are good, we can always

consider....

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mr. Chiranjiv ji,

 

There is no Sthanbal {directional strength} mentioned for Rahu / Ketu.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Sreeram ji,

Birth data is as under:

 

Father (Shashibhai):

For my father I don't have precise birth details. Similarly I could not find

correct co-ordinates for his birth place. Hence I have taken details of nearest

town.

Our birth details are as under:

April 12/13, 1913,

Time: 0:30:00 AM, Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT),

Place: 71 E 14' 00 " , 21 N 37' 00 "

 

Rajendra:

February 17/18, 1949,

Time: 3:20:00 AM, Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT),

Place: 72 E 48' 00 " , 22 N 40' 01 "

 

Son (Salil):

April 29, 1981

Time: 4:06:00 AM, Time Zone:5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place:72 E 11' 00 " , 21 N 46' 00 "

 

Regards,

Rajendra

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mr. Rajendra ji,

>

> Thanks for the sincere feedback...... it helps astrology. Can you

> post the birth data..... yours + your father's + your son ??

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

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Dear Sreeram ji,

I am sorry for the second mail. I would like to add more data.

My second son has Rahu in 11th in Scorpio. In his case elder co-borns are not

denied. He has a elder brother and a sister.

My wife also has Rahu in 11th in Capricorn. She is eldest among her siblings.

Regards,

Rajendra

 

 

, " rajendra_bhatt "

<rajendra_bhatt wrote:

>

> Dear Sreeram ji,

> Birth data is as under:

>

> Father (Shashibhai):

> For my father I don't have precise birth details. Similarly I could not find

correct co-ordinates for his birth place. Hence I have taken details of nearest

town.

> Our birth details are as under:

> April 12/13, 1913,

> Time: 0:30:00 AM, Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT),

> Place: 71 E 14' 00 " , 21 N 37' 00 "

>

> Rajendra:

> February 17/18, 1949,

> Time: 3:20:00 AM, Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT),

> Place: 72 E 48' 00 " , 22 N 40' 01 "

>

> Son (Salil):

> April 29, 1981

> Time: 4:06:00 AM, Time Zone:5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place:72 E 11' 00 " , 21 N 46' 00 "

>

> Regards,

> Rajendra

>

> , " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Rajendra ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the sincere feedback...... it helps astrology. Can you

> > post the birth data..... yours + your father's + your son ??

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Sreeram_Srinivas

> >

>

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Dear all,

 

when I woke up today, I saw the discussion has reached very far. I thank

everyone for sharing interesting information. But what exactly is the thread, is

it about Rahu in 3/5/1/11? We need to be focussed in whatever we are discussing.

Can we do this systematically?

 

Regards,

bhagavathi

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Namaste Ms bhagavathi ji,

 

The subject thread is clear on this..... Rahu_3H.... how as usual the

members are too enthusiastic and hence all types of data is pouring

in......

 

The query stands - Why Rahu in 3H denies.......when it fails to do when

placed elsewhere in the hororscope. Can also include other effects of

Rahu in 3H or 11H.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas