Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

May 2, 2009

Dear Shri Venkatakrishnanji,

If what you are saying is correct then how do you explain that according to the Suryasiddhanta the number of revolution of the Moon is slightly greater than that of the Sun and that the number of revolution of the Jupiter is slightly lower than that of the Sun during the same Mahayuga period.

Yours sincerely,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan <bcvk71 wrote:

venkata krishnan <bcvk71Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya, "Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7Saturday, May 2, 2009, 12:21 AM

Dear Mr.Daniel Salas,

The Suryasiddhana mentioning of 43,32000 years is not the Solar years of Rotation of the Sun but the Number of human years which is the earth's revolution arround the Sun. The Sun revolves arround the centre of the Akashaganga (i.e.) Milkeyway galaxy in 250 million earth years approx which has been proved by modern Astronomy.

Yours sincerly,

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN.

website: www.vedascience.com

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaDaniel Salas <danielyogi7Cc: bcvk71Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 5:22:22 AMRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

Then you may send the correct interpretation of the Suryasiddhanta to the eight others. Suryasiddhanta said that Mahayuga is 4,320,000 revolutions and not 4,320,000 years. Vinay Jha is confused as he thinks that one revolution means one year.

Thank you,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Daniel Salas <danielyogi7 wrote:

Daniel Salas <danielyogi7Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjyaFriday, May 1, 2009, 11:47 AM

Sorry, do you want me to retract the Email , I only sent it to 8 others.

Daniel F. Salas--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7Cc: bcvk71Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 4:32 PM

Daniel Salasji,

You are confusing Vinay jha's mails with my mail. The mail you quoted was actually from Vinay Jha.

skb--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Daniel Salas <danielyogi7 wrote:

Daniel Salas <danielyogi7Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Scriptsunil_bhattacharjyaDate: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:25 PM

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, danielyogi7 <danielyogi7 wrote:

danielyogi7 <danielyogi7calender of the Indus Valley Scriptbcvk71Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:22 PM

Vinay Jha said:

"Indians (of all ancient siddhaantas, incluing Aryabhatiya, Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana, etc) used to give number of planetary revolutions in terms of revolutions per mahayuga". Suryasiddhanta clearly says that one mayayuga of 12000 divya years is equal to 4320000 solar years during which Sun makes 4320000 revolutions, Moon 57753336, Jupiter 364220, and so on. 4320000 revolutions of Sun is not possible in 12000 years.

If you take these numbers as is it makes no sense because 4320000 revolutions of the Sun is not possible in 12000 years. From Chitra 180 degrees with respect to Dhruva starts the calender at Asvin, then one lunar house equals 30 degrees. Due to the precession of the equinox the time period for the equinoctial shift through 1 degree of arc was 72 years. The time period for the shift to go through a whole astrological house was 2160 years. 72 x 30= 2160 then 2160 x 2 = 4320 a yuga. The callendar mutiplied this number by 100 or in modern times you can express the number as 4320.000 three decmil place precission .The Yajurveda and Samhita and other books list 27 Naksatras, the moon orbits the earth in 27 days (sidereal period see below) each night it spends in a Naksatra.

The Siddhaanta, Aryabhatiya, Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana have the lunar orbits of a yuga as 57753336 agian mutiplied x 100 or 57753.336 three decmil place precission. 57753.336 divided by 4320.000 = 13.36882 360 / 27 = 13.333... each naksatras is assigned 13.333... of the ecliptic.

For Jupiter the ancient text have 364220 years again 3 decimal places 4320.000 / 364.220 = 11.860 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon Jupiter completes an orbit every 11.86 years around the Sun The Moon makes a complete orbit around the Earth with respect to the fixed stars about once every 27.3 days (its sidereal period). However, since the Earth is moving in its orbit about the Sun at the same time, it takes slightly longer for the Moon to show its same phase to Earth, which is about 29.5 days (its synodic

period).[6Earth's rotation by about 0.002 seconds per day per century.[52] As a result of the conservation of angular momentum, the slowing of Earth's rotation is accompanied by an increase of the mean Earth-Moon distance of about 3.8 m per century, or 3.8 cm per year.[53]

432 century's x 3.8 =1641.6 meters this may account for the sidereal miss of 27.3 and 27 degrees.

Daniel F. Salas

May 3, 2009

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"venkata krishnan" <bcvk71Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:30 AM

Dear Mr. Venkataraman,

You are not replying to the point. Please reply to the points raised. You cannot evade explaining the number of revolutions of the Moon and the Jupiter to your convenience. In the geocentric model there is no place for your imaginations as they do not simply fit in the geocentric model where the Sun a star becomes a graha, the Moon, a satellite of the earth becomes a graha and Jupiter is also a graha. In the geocentric model all the grahas revolve round the earth. Nowhere it is mentioned that you are to multiply the 12,000 years of Mahayuga years by 360 to get human years. For your information 2700 Divyavarsha is equal to 3030 human years. Please do not furnish unsubstantiated information.

--- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan <bcvk71 wrote:

venkata krishnan <bcvk71Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjyaCc: "Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7, , Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 11:44 PM

Dear Mr.Sunil,

One correction, The Suryasidhdhanta mentions as 43,20,000 years and not 43,32,000 years which is typographic error.The moon takes approximately 29 andodd earth days to revolve arround the earth.The earth takes approx 365days approx to revolvearround theSun which is also one human year.The sun takes 250million earth years (i.e.) human years to revolve arround the centre of Aakaashaganga(i.e.) Milkeyway galaxy.And all these have nothing to do with One Mahaayuga the span of which is 12,000 Deva years.If you multiply 12,000 Deva years with 360 human years the result is 43,20,000 human years which is earth years and this is the span of one Mahaayuga.The Sidereal period of rotation of the Sun is 25 and odd earthdays and the its period of rotation with respect to the earth is 27 and odd days.(Latitude

16 degrees).The span of one Mahayuga is certainly not the period of revolution or rotation of the Sun.The the revolution of earth arround the Sun is called the Solar years.

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyavenkata krishnan <bcvk71Cc: Daniel Salas <danielyogi7; ; Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:01:51 AMRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

Dear Shri Venkatakrishnanji,

If what you are saying is correct then how do you explain that according to the Suryasiddhanta the number of revolution of the Moon is slightly greater than that of the Sun and that the number of revolution of the Jupiter is slightly lower than that of the Sun during the same Mahayuga period.

Yours sincerely,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan <bcvk71 wrote:

venkata krishnan <bcvk71Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya, "Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7Saturday, May 2, 2009, 12:21 AM

Dear Mr.Daniel Salas,

The Suryasiddhana mentioning of 43,32000 years is not the Solar years of Rotation of the Sun but the Number of human years which is the earth's revolution arround the Sun. The Sun revolves arround the centre of the Akashaganga (i.e.) Milkeyway galaxy in 250 million earth years approx which has been proved by modern Astronomy.

Yours sincerly,

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN.

website: www.vedascience.com

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaDaniel Salas <danielyogi7Cc: bcvk71Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 5:22:22 AMRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

Then you may send the correct interpretation of the Suryasiddhanta to the eight others. Suryasiddhanta said that Mahayuga is 4,320,000 revolutions and not 4,320,000 years. Vinay Jha is confused as he thinks that one revolution means one year.

Thank you,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Daniel Salas <danielyogi7 wrote:

Daniel Salas <danielyogi7Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjyaFriday, May 1, 2009, 11:47 AM

Sorry, do you want me to retract the Email , I only sent it to 8 others.

Daniel F. Salas--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7Cc: bcvk71Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 4:32 PM

Daniel Salasji,

You are confusing Vinay jha's mails with my mail. The mail you quoted was actually from Vinay Jha.

skb--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Daniel Salas <danielyogi7 wrote:

Daniel Salas <danielyogi7Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Scriptsunil_bhattacharjyaDate: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:25 PM

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, danielyogi7 <danielyogi7 wrote:

danielyogi7 <danielyogi7calender of the Indus Valley Scriptbcvk71Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:22 PM

Vinay Jha said:

"Indians (of all ancient siddhaantas, incluing Aryabhatiya, Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana, etc) used to give number of planetary revolutions in terms of revolutions per mahayuga". Suryasiddhanta clearly says that one mayayuga of 12000 divya years is equal to 4320000 solar years during which Sun makes 4320000 revolutions, Moon 57753336, Jupiter 364220, and so on. 4320000 revolutions of Sun is not possible in 12000 years.

If you take these numbers as is it makes no sense because 4320000 revolutions of the Sun is not possible in 12000 years. From Chitra 180 degrees with respect to Dhruva starts the calender at Asvin, then one lunar house equals 30 degrees. Due to the precession of the equinox the time period for the equinoctial shift through 1 degree of arc was 72 years. The time period for the shift to go through a whole astrological house was 2160 years. 72 x 30= 2160 then 2160 x 2 = 4320 a yuga. The callendar mutiplied this number by 100 or in modern times you can express the number as 4320.000 three decmil place precission .The Yajurveda and Samhita and other books list 27 Naksatras, the moon orbits the earth in 27 days (sidereal period see below) each night it spends in a Naksatra.

The Siddhaanta, Aryabhatiya, Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana have the lunar orbits of a yuga as 57753336 agian mutiplied x 100 or 57753.336 three decmil place precission. 57753.336 divided by 4320.000 = 13.36882 360 / 27 = 13.333... each naksatras is assigned 13.333... of the ecliptic.

For Jupiter the ancient text have 364220 years again 3 decimal places 4320.000 / 364.220 = 11.860 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon Jupiter completes an orbit every 11.86 years around the Sun The Moon makes a complete orbit around the Earth with respect to the fixed stars about once every 27.3 days (its sidereal period). However, since the Earth is moving in its orbit about the Sun at the same time, it takes slightly longer for the Moon to show its same phase to Earth, which is about 29.5 days (its synodic

period).[6Earth's rotation by about 0.002 seconds per day per century.[52] As a result of the conservation of angular momentum, the slowing of Earth's rotation is accompanied by an increase of the mean Earth-Moon distance of about 3.8 m per century, or 3.8 cm per year.[53]

432 century's x 3.8 =1641.6 meters this may account for the sidereal miss of 27.3 and 27 degrees.

Daniel F. Salas

May 3, 2009

dear malla ji

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Sunday, 3 May, 2009 2:37 PM

"Hari Malla" <harimalla

Dear Sunilji,Venkataramanji and Mr. Daniel Salas,

Every body seems to be corrrect, but one is not understandng the others.

1.Mr. sunil' quories seem to be why the jupiter's no. of rev. is less and the moon's rev. is more than that of the sun's, for one mahayuga.But this seems to be natural because jupiter's rev. is 12 times that of sun's and the moon's is one twelth that of sun.So naturally jupiter's rev. would be one twelth of the sun's and the moon's would be 12 times that of sun. Here the sun's revolution is taken in the geocentric sense ie , when actually the earth goes round the sun.The sun's rev. is the same as human years.

2.What Mr. Venkataraman says is also correct.One mahayuga has no relationship with the sun's revolutions or rotations.He is talking of the helio-centric concept of the universe.

3..Mr Daniel Salas seems to have misunderstood what Mr. Jhhaa means by one revolution of the sun.By the sun's revolution Mr. Jhaa actually means the earth's rev. around the sun.Because it is relatively true to say sun's rev., when one is refering with respect to geocentric conditons.REgards,

Hari Malla

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaDaniel Salas <danielyogi7; ; Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 1:19:07 PM Fw: Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"venkata krishnan" <bcvk71Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:30 AM

Dear Mr. Venkataraman,

You are not replying to the point. Please reply to the points raised. You cannot evade explaining the number of revolutions of the Moon and the Jupiter to your convenience. In the geocentric model there is no place for your imaginations as they do not simply fit in the geocentric model where the Sun a star becomes a graha, the Moon, a satellite of the earth becomes a graha and Jupiter is also a graha. In the geocentric model all the grahas revolve round the earth. Nowhere it is mentioned that you are to multiply the 12,000 years of Mahayuga years by 360 to get human years. For your information 2700 Divyavarsha is equal to 3030 human years. Please do not furnish unsubstantiated information.

--- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan <bcvk71 wrote:

venkata krishnan <bcvk71Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjyaCc: "Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7, , Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 11:44 PM

Dear Mr.Sunil,

One correction, The Suryasidhdhanta mentions as 43,20,000 years and not 43,32,000 years which is typographic error.The moon takes approximately 29 andodd earth days to revolve arround the earth.The earth takes approx 365days approx to revolvearround theSun which is also one human year.The sun takes 250million earth years (i.e.) human years to revolve arround the centre of Aakaashaganga(i.e.) Milkeyway galaxy.And all these have nothing to do with One Mahaayuga the span of which is 12,000 Deva years.If you multiply 12,000 Deva years with 360 human years the result is 43,20,000 human years which is earth years and this is the span of one Mahaayuga.The Sidereal period of rotation of the Sun is 25 and odd earthdays and the its period of rotation with respect to the earth is 27 and odd days.(Latitude 16 degrees).The span of one Mahayuga is certainly not the period of revolution or rotation of the Sun.The the revolution of earth arround the Sun is called the Solar years.

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyavenkata krishnan <bcvk71Cc: Daniel Salas <danielyogi7; ; Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:01:51 AMRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

Dear Shri Venkatakrishnanji,

If what you are saying is correct then how do you explain that according to the Suryasiddhanta the number of revolution of the Moon is slightly greater than that of the Sun and that the number of revolution of the Jupiter is slightly lower than that of the Sun during the same Mahayuga period.

Yours sincerely,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sat, 5/2/09, venkata krishnan <bcvk71 wrote:

venkata krishnan <bcvk71Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya, "Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7Saturday, May 2, 2009, 12:21 AM

Dear Mr.Daniel Salas,

The Suryasiddhana mentioning of 43,32000 years is not the Solar years of Rotation of the Sun but the Number of human years which is the earth's revolution arround the Sun. The Sun revolves arround the centre of the Akashaganga (i.e.) Milkeyway galaxy in 250 million earth years approx which has been proved by modern Astronomy.

Yours sincerly,

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN.

website: www.vedascience.com

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaDaniel Salas <danielyogi7Cc: bcvk71Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 5:22:22 AMRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script

Then you may send the correct interpretation of the Suryasiddhanta to the eight others. Suryasiddhanta said that Mahayuga is 4,320,000 revolutions and not 4,320,000 years. Vinay Jha is confused as he thinks that one revolution means one year.

Thank you,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Daniel Salas <danielyogi7 wrote:

Daniel Salas <danielyogi7Re: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjyaFriday, May 1, 2009, 11:47 AM

Sorry, do you want me to retract the Email , I only sent it to 8 others.

Daniel F. Salas--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Script"Daniel Salas" <danielyogi7Cc: bcvk71Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 4:32 PM

Daniel Salasji,

You are confusing Vinay jha's mails with my mail. The mail you quoted was actually from Vinay Jha.

skb--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Daniel Salas <danielyogi7 wrote:

Daniel Salas <danielyogi7Fw: calender of the Indus Valley Scriptsunil_bhattacharjyaDate: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:25 PM

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, danielyogi7 <danielyogi7 wrote:

danielyogi7 <danielyogi7calender of the Indus Valley Scriptbcvk71Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:22 PM

Vinay Jha said:

"Indians (of all ancient siddhaantas, incluing Aryabhatiya, Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana, etc) used to give number of planetary revolutions in terms of revolutions per mahayuga". Suryasiddhanta clearly says that one mayayuga of 12000 divya years is equal to 4320000 solar years during which Sun makes 4320000 revolutions, Moon 57753336, Jupiter 364220, and so on. 4320000 revolutions of Sun is not possible in 12000 years.

If you take these numbers as is it makes no sense because 4320000 revolutions of the Sun is not possible in 12000 years. From Chitra 180 degrees with respect to Dhruva starts the calender at Asvin, then one lunar house equals 30 degrees. Due to the precession of the equinox the time period for the equinoctial shift through 1 degree of arc was 72 years. The time period for the shift to go through a whole astrological house was 2160 years. 72 x 30= 2160 then 2160 x 2 = 4320 a yuga. The callendar mutiplied this number by 100 or in modern times you can express the number as 4320.000 three decmil place precission .The Yajurveda and Samhita and other books list 27 Naksatras, the moon orbits the earth in 27 days (sidereal period see below) each night it spends in a Naksatra. The Siddhaanta, Aryabhatiya, Suryasiddhanta, Narada Purana have the lunar orbits of a yuga as 57753336 agian mutiplied x 100 or 57753.336 three decmil place precission. 57753.336 divided by 4320.000 = 13.36882 360 / 27 = 13.333... each naksatras is assigned 13.333... of the ecliptic.

For Jupiter the ancient text have 364220 years again 3 decimal places 4320.000 / 364.220 = 11.860 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon Jupiter completes an orbit every 11.86 years around the Sun The Moon makes a complete orbit around the Earth with respect to the fixed stars about once every 27.3 days (its sidereal period). However, since the Earth is moving in its orbit about the Sun at the same time, it takes slightly longer for the Moon to show its same phase to Earth, which is about 29.5 days (its synodic period).[6Earth's rotation by about 0.002 seconds per day per century.[52] As a result of the conservation of angular momentum, the slowing of Earth's rotation is accompanied by an increase of the mean Earth-Moon distance of about 3.8 m per century, or 3.8 cm per year.[53]

432 century's x 3.8 =1641.6 meters this may account for the sidereal miss of 27.3 and 27 degrees.

Daniel F. Salas