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I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna and

is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

you is this: which lagna is correct?

 

The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual (unmarried

and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest and

sincere person.

 

The book is excellent.

 

Data for this writer:

July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

 

--Radha

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DST is applicable for the given date. Hence, Dhanu lagna is correct.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

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aphoton47 <aphoton

 

Friday, 1 May, 2009 8:40:57 AM

A puzzle

 

 

 

 

 

I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna and

is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

you is this: which lagna is correct?

 

The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual (unmarried

and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest and

sincere person.

 

The book is excellent.

 

Data for this writer:

July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

 

--Radha

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Radha,

 

I would need to ask more questions but Capricorn seems suitable.

 

Ron

 

aphoton47 wrote:

> I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

> author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> you is this: which lagna is correct?

>

> The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> sincere person.

>

> The book is excellent.

>

> Data for this writer:

> July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

>

> --Radha

>

>

>

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Thank you. Would Dhanu lagna indicate the sexual preference?

 

--Radha

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

wrote:

>

> DST is applicable for the given date. Hence, Dhanu lagna is correct.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> aphoton47 <aphoton

>

> Friday, 1 May, 2009 8:40:57 AM

> A puzzle

>

>

>

>

>

> I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

> author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> you is this: which lagna is correct?

>

> The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> sincere person.

>

> The book is excellent.

>

> Data for this writer:

> July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

>

> --Radha

>

>

>

>

>

> Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to

http://in.business./

>

>

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Thank you. How would you interpret retrograde Mars and Rahu in lagna aspected

by Mercury?

 

--Radha

 

, RonDay <ronkar wrote:

>

> Hello Radha,

>

> I would need to ask more questions but Capricorn seems suitable.

>

> Ron

>

> aphoton47 wrote:

> > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which

the

> > author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> >

> > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> > sincere person.

> >

> > The book is excellent.

> >

> > Data for this writer:

> > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> >

> > --Radha

> >

> >

> >

>

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Yes, there is some indication. Please notice that 8th lord of sexuality Moon is

in Srinkhala (a variation of parivartana) with Saturn, Venus and Mercury. Venus

is the 11th lord and Saturn is the second lord. 2L Saturn occupies Taurus. The

indication is not very strong as 4 planets are involved in this combination. It

is interesting note that a similar Srinkhala is seen in Navamsha as well between

Ven-Sat-Jup-Sun where Jupiter is the 8th lord. Hence, the tendency is visible.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

________________________________

aphoton47 <aphoton

 

Friday, 1 May, 2009 7:03:02 PM

Re: A puzzle

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you. Would Dhanu lagna indicate the sexual preference?

 

--Radha

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@

....> wrote:

>

> DST is applicable for the given date. Hence, Dhanu lagna is correct.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> aphoton47 <aphoton >

>

> Friday, 1 May, 2009 8:40:57 AM

> A puzzle

>

>

>

>

>

> I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

> author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> you is this: which lagna is correct?

>

> The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> sincere person.

>

> The book is excellent.

>

> Data for this writer:

> July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

>

> --Radha

>

>

>

>

>

> Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to

http://in.business. /

>

>

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Dear Radhaji

 

Thanks for the details. I did take look at her snap on the net.I will give my

comments later. You can also look at her teeth and smile.

 

Can you please give the following feedback.

 

Why did she give her birth time ? Does she know Jyotish. Exalted Mars makes her

a logician in the 5th from karakamsha lagna. Rahu there will make her under

Jyotish principles as per classics. However these two planets will also give her

some health worries related to stomach and pulmonary.

 

If it is Dhanu Lagna , ealted Mars+ Rahu in 2nd, will give her excellent

sarcastic or similar strong humour sense.Is this reflected in her writings?

 

Will give detailed analysis including lesbian tendencies using classical

principles as another mail.

 

Regards

Pradeep

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton wrote:

>

> I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

> author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> you is this: which lagna is correct?

>

> The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> sincere person.

>

> The book is excellent.

>

> Data for this writer:

> July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

>

> --Radha

>

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Pradeepji,

She gives the time of her birth in her book. She also writes dismissively about

a visit to an astrologer in Navsari, who told her she was stubborn, " great

difficulty in education and had failed several times " , this of a person who did

very well in school, graduated from Stanford Univ. and did graduate work at

Columbia Univ.!

 

--Radha

, " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:

>

> Dear Radhaji

>

> Thanks for the details. I did take look at her snap on the net.I will give my

comments later. You can also look at her teeth and smile.

>

> Can you please give the following feedback.

>

> Why did she give her birth time ? Does she know Jyotish. Exalted Mars makes

her a logician in the 5th from karakamsha lagna. Rahu there will make her under

Jyotish principles as per classics. However these two planets will also give her

some health worries related to stomach and pulmonary.

>

> If it is Dhanu Lagna , ealted Mars+ Rahu in 2nd, will give her excellent

sarcastic or similar strong humour sense.Is this reflected in her writings?

>

> Will give detailed analysis including lesbian tendencies using classical

principles as another mail.

>

> Regards

> Pradeep

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote:

> >

> > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which

the

> > author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> >

> > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> > sincere person.

> >

> > The book is excellent.

> >

> > Data for this writer:

> > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

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The only writing I have read is this recent book which is a story of her family

migration over the last 200 years from Gujarat to Fiji, South Africa, Australia

and the U.S. It is very well-written but not humorous. She is also supposed to

be a performer. So that shows some kind of acting ability.

 

--Radha

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:

>

> Dear Radhaji

>

> Thanks for the details. I did take look at her snap on the net.I will give my

comments later. You can also look at her teeth and smile.

>

> Can you please give the following feedback.

>

> Why did she give her birth time ? Does she know Jyotish. Exalted Mars makes

her a logician in the 5th from karakamsha lagna. Rahu there will make her under

Jyotish principles as per classics. However these two planets will also give her

some health worries related to stomach and pulmonary.

>

> If it is Dhanu Lagna , ealted Mars+ Rahu in 2nd, will give her excellent

sarcastic or similar strong humour sense.Is this reflected in her writings?

>

> Will give detailed analysis including lesbian tendencies using classical

principles as another mail.

>

> Regards

> Pradeep

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote:

> >

> > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which

the

> > author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> >

> > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> > sincere person.

> >

> > The book is excellent.

> >

> > Data for this writer:

> > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

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Radha Ji,

 

Since most people would just know and report whatever clock time was prevalent,

it would be a safe assumption that the '19:42' was PDT which was in effect

during the birth epoch.

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton wrote:

>

> I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which the

> author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> you is this: which lagna is correct?

>

> The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> sincere person.

>

> The book is excellent.

>

> Data for this writer:

> July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

>

> --Radha

>

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RRji,

I agree with what you say. But her parents were educated and sent the

information to a grandmother who had the horoscope prepared by an astrologer in

India. So they may have factored in the deduction for DST. Someone should ask

the author herself. But shouldn't the horoscope (Dhanu or Makar) reflect it?

 

 

--Radha

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Radha Ji,

>

> Since most people would just know and report whatever clock time was

prevalent, it would be a safe assumption that the '19:42' was PDT which was in

effect during the birth epoch.

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote:

> >

> > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which

the

> > author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar lagna

and

> > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question to

> > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> >

> > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living. She

> > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely honest

and

> > sincere person.

> >

> > The book is excellent.

> >

> > Data for this writer:

> > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

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Radha ji,

 

The doubts you raise and voice are valid and perhaps your surmise is correct and

the *uncertainty* rightly described in your most recent message. I have not read

the book so don't know if the birthtime shared by the authoress in her public

sharing was based on what her parents sent to her grandmother or if it was

simply reproduced from birth certificate or similar records. Some countries

indicate the time of birth, others do not. Obama's birthcertificate had the time

which then put to rest many 'probabilities and possibilities', for example.

 

You are right though: if one is really interested, they can ask the nativity

herself but she may be busy or non-responsive and that often is the problem with

celebrities. Jyotish-afficianados need not lament though! There are many other

records that may be available readily now that Rodden's huge database is freely

available by the categories from astrodienst website. :-)

 

Why guess, speculate and waste time when alternative data are readily available!

Particularly when the guesses and speculations cannot be verified and validated

through feed-back?

 

So many variables and confounders already bless jyotish -- why add to the

confusion and Khichdi with a questionable birthtime -- is what a simpleton like

me would wonder about...!

 

Sorry for any interruption caused by me...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton wrote:

>

> RRji,

> I agree with what you say. But her parents were educated and sent the

information to a grandmother who had the horoscope prepared by an astrologer in

India. So they may have factored in the deduction for DST. Someone should ask

the author herself. But shouldn't the horoscope (Dhanu or Makar) reflect it?

>

>

> --Radha

>

>

> , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Radha Ji,

> >

> > Since most people would just know and report whatever clock time was

prevalent, it would be a safe assumption that the '19:42' was PDT which was in

effect during the birth epoch.

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which

the

> > > author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> > > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar

lagna and

> > > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question

to

> > > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> > >

> > > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> > > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living.

She

> > > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely

honest and

> > > sincere person.

> > >

> > > The book is excellent.

> > >

> > > Data for this writer:

> > > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> > >

> > > --Radha

> > >

> >

>

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Hello Radha,

 

For Capricorn Ascendant

 

1.Exalted Mars lord of 4H(education) in Ascendant shows that she is highly

educated. She could also own good property.

 

2.Rahu is not afflicting Mars or the ascendant due to wide orb but could give—

Many changes, lack of peace

Struggle with self image

Eccentric

Wealthy

Strong will

Beauty

 

3. 9L Me is afflicted by Ra/Ke axis and Su is in 6H. This would give a difficult

relationship with father. This is one reason for lesbian tendencies.

 

4. Concerns relating to sexuality can also be seen with Ve in a dual sign in 6H.

 

5. If using equal cusps or MEPs for an early Capricorn ascendant, Ju afflicts

3,5,7,11 houses. House of children and partner are afflicted.

 

 

When you have finished reading the book could you give a brief summary with

dates of some important events in her life. This would be good for research.

 

 

Ron

 

 

 

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton wrote:

>

> Thank you. How would you interpret retrograde Mars and Rahu in lagna aspected

by Mercury?

>

> --Radha

>

> , RonDay <ronkar@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Radha,

> >

> > I would need to ask more questions but Capricorn seems suitable.

> >

> > Ron

> >

> > aphoton47 wrote:

> > > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in which

the

> > > author has provided her birth data as well as important information about

> > > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar

lagna and

> > > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My question

to

> > > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> > >

> > > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with an

> > > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living.

She

> > > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely

honest and

> > > sincere person.

> > >

> > > The book is excellent.

> > >

> > > Data for this writer:

> > > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> > >

> > > --Radha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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, " ronday_au " <ronkar wrote:

>

> When you have finished reading the book could you give a brief summary with

dates of some important events in her life. This would be good for research.

>

>

> Ron

>

 

Hello Ron,

The time is mentioned in a telegram sent by the father to the child's

grandmother. It is referred to at many places in the book.

 

Birth of only sibling--a brother--2 years and four days after her birth.

Within six months of her birth in San Francisco the family emigrated to New

Zealand.

Family moved back to the U.S. when author was seven.

Traveled 3,000 miles to Stanford Univ. at 17. Graduated in three years.

Within a month her father had a triple bypass operation.

To write the book she traveled all over the world.

 

--Radha

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Rohini Ranjanji,

 

The time is what was sent in the telegram by the father to his mother.

 

I do not think that I will ask the author about the DST question. She is very

transparent in the amount of information she has given in the book.

 

If the Lagna makes no difference--or, if both lagnas say the same thing--what is

the whole point of astrology?

 

I am glad that I have at least done some publicity for the book. No author

would object to that!

 

--Radha

 

, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Radha ji,

>

> The doubts you raise and voice are valid and perhaps your surmise is correct

and the *uncertainty* rightly described in your most recent message. I have not

read the book so don't know if the birthtime shared by the authoress in her

public sharing was based on what her parents sent to her grandmother or if it

was simply reproduced from birth certificate or similar records. Some countries

indicate the time of birth, others do not. Obama's birthcertificate had the time

which then put to rest many 'probabilities and possibilities', for example.

>

> You are right though: if one is really interested, they can ask the nativity

herself but she may be busy or non-responsive and that often is the problem with

celebrities. Jyotish-afficianados need not lament though! There are many other

records that may be available readily now that Rodden's huge database is freely

available by the categories from astrodienst website. :-)

>

> Why guess, speculate and waste time when alternative data are readily

available! Particularly when the guesses and speculations cannot be verified and

validated through feed-back?

>

> So many variables and confounders already bless jyotish -- why add to the

confusion and Khichdi with a questionable birthtime -- is what a simpleton like

me would wonder about...!

>

> Sorry for any interruption caused by me...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote:

> >

> > RRji,

> > I agree with what you say. But her parents were educated and sent the

information to a grandmother who had the horoscope prepared by an astrologer in

India. So they may have factored in the deduction for DST. Someone should ask

the author herself. But shouldn't the horoscope (Dhanu or Makar) reflect it?

> >

> >

> > --Radha

> >

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Radha Ji,

> > >

> > > Since most people would just know and report whatever clock time was

prevalent, it would be a safe assumption that the '19:42' was PDT which was in

effect during the birth epoch.

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " aphoton47 " <aphoton@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am currently reading a book, Leaving India by Minal Hazratwala in

which the

> > > > author has provided her birth data as well as important information

about

> > > > herself. However, she does not mention if the time of birth provided is

> > > > standard time or daylight savings time. The standard time gives Makar

lagna and

> > > > is this whereas daylight savings time (-1) gives Dhanu lagna. My

question to

> > > > you is this: which lagna is correct?

> > > >

> > > > The woman is highly educated, a journalist, and has just come out with

an

> > > > important book. She is also well-traveled. She is a lesbian/bisexual

(unmarried

> > > > and no children.) She has a younger brother and her parents are living.

She

> > > > lost her virginity at 17. She is not only brilliant but an extremely

honest and

> > > > sincere person.

> > > >

> > > > The book is excellent.

> > > >

> > > > Data for this writer:

> > > > July 12, 1971 19:42 PDT or PST, San Francisco, CA

> > > >

> > > > --Radha

> > > >

> > >

> >

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