chaitra shukla pratipada

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Dear All,

 

Some of you might’ve studied the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada 2009 chart for India.

26 Mar 2009/21.35/Delhi. Libra rising 

 

Some of the important points that come to mind are:

 

6H (of

India) rising with lagna lord Venus, though exalted, is in 6H of CSP

chart with a debilitated mercury. Not only is venus the LL, it is also

the dashanath placed with Sun, who is all set to take over the charge

from August. How do we foresee the handing over ceremony with this

chart? Ketu, the antranath in 3H in cancer, is nothing new as we have

been witnessing an increment in the never-friendly affairs with our

neighbours ever since ketu took this position.

 

Saturn is

retrograding in Leo, in the 4H of masses which again is not a happy

scene. Mars defines action and aggression in the 10H, and as 7/12 lord,

and with ketu in 3H can push us on the defensive to fight an invasive

force. Jupiter is debilitated in 9H with Rahu, thus afflicting the

judiciary, learned people, teachers and advisors, etc. There is

confusion and aggression. Venus implies the role (rather negative, but

strong) role of women at the helm. Point to be noted is that in

Navamsha both venus and ketu are in scorpio which is the 7H of India

chart. With a debilitated mercury with venus, a misguided youth and

media can be seen.

 

If elections are about deciding what the

people want, and all segments afflicted thus, how will the public take

a decision needs to be seen.

 

However,

I can see a very important transit in the midst of this confusion.

Jupiter comes to aquarius for a while, from the first week of May till

about the end of July and it is a well known fact that Jup and sat

conjunctions and oppositions mark important periods in mundane. This is

the time of formation of the government. Do we see a change, which may

not appear to be too good, but will become an important historic event?

Does upcoming Sun’s dasha also confirms this?

 

Yet

another point which needs attention is the mars-ketu conjunction in

from the 5 October for about a month. By that time Jupiter would’ve

retrograded back into its debilitation sign with rahu and mars would

aspect both 9H and 10H, Jupiter and rahu. Does that meeting trigger a

territorial aggression with mars connecting 3/6/10 houses.

 

I would be glad to have views of learned members on these observations.

 

Regards

Neelam

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Dear All,There will be a total solar eclipse with a magnitude of 1.080, visible in most of South East Asia on Wednesday, July 22, 2009. It is the longest total solar eclipse that will occur in the twenty-first century, and will not be surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. Totality will last for up to 6 minutes and 39 seconds, with the maximum eclipse occurring in the ocean at 02:35:21 UTC about 100 km south of the Bonin Islands, southeast of Japan.

On 22nd July 2009 the planetary position is not very good:Jup-sat opposition with both retrogradingMars-sat mutual aspect and venus is also afflicted by both mars and satmo-su-ke-me conjunction in cancer in saturn’s star

Sun, of course, in degree conjunction at r/k axixMost of the planets are in extremely malefic shastiamshas.All planets under heavy afflictionJal tatwa seems to be afflicted on the day. There may be surges in the sea, possibility of an earthquake, like tsunami. Any comments?

RegardsNeelam

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hare ramakrishna

 

dear neelam ji

 

can u post the hindu new lunar yr (chaitra shukla prathipada ) chart

 

may b it has to read with all this eclipse ,my softwares are yet to download

 

rgrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > There will be a total solar eclipse with a magnitude of 1.080, visible in> most of South East Asia on Wednesday, July 22, 2009. It is the longest total> solar eclipse that will occur in the twenty-first century, and will not be> surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. Totality will last for up to 6> minutes and 39 seconds, with the maximum eclipse occurring in the ocean at> 02:35:21 UTC about 100 km south of the Bonin Islands, southeast of Japan.> > On 22nd July 2009 the planetary position is not very good:> > - Jup-sat opposition with both retrograding> - Mars-sat mutual aspect and venus is also afflicted by both mars and sat> - mo-su-ke-me conjunction in cancer in saturn's star> - Sun, of course, in degree conjunction at r/k axix> - Most of the planets are in extremely malefic shastiamshas.> - All planets under heavy affliction> > Jal tatwa seems to be afflicted on the day. There may be surges in the> sea, possibility> of an earthquake, like tsunami. Any comments?> > Regards> Neelam>

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Sure Sunil ji, that is what I started with and am trying to trace the events from in this chart.26 Mar 2009, 21.35, New DelhiAsc Lib 21.48Sun Pis 12.08Mon Pis 12.08Mar Aqu 15.02Mer Pis 07.38Jup cap 24.05Ven Pic 13.59 RSat Leo 23.00 RRa Cap 13.40Ke Cap 13.40

RegardsNeelam

2009/4/17 sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

 

 

 

 

 

hare ramakrishna

 

dear neelam ji

 

can u post the hindu new lunar yr (chaitra shukla prathipada ) chart

 

may b it has to read with all this eclipse ,my softwares are yet to download

 

rgrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > There will be a total solar eclipse with a magnitude of 1.080, visible in

> most of South East Asia on Wednesday, July 22, 2009. It is the longest total> solar eclipse that will occur in the twenty-first century, and will not be> surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. Totality will last for up to 6

> minutes and 39 seconds, with the maximum eclipse occurring in the ocean at> 02:35:21 UTC about 100 km south of the Bonin Islands, southeast of Japan.> > On 22nd July 2009 the planetary position is not very good:

> > - Jup-sat opposition with both retrograding> - Mars-sat mutual aspect and venus is also afflicted by both mars and sat> - mo-su-ke-me conjunction in cancer in saturn's star> - Sun, of course, in degree conjunction at r/k axix

> - Most of the planets are in extremely malefic shastiamshas.> - All planets under heavy affliction> > Jal tatwa seems to be afflicted on the day. There may be surges in the> sea, possibility

> of an earthquake, like tsunami. Any comments?> > Regards> Neelam>

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Hare rama krishna

dear neelam ji

 

thanks for the chart ,i am yet to go tru it fully as i hav some constraints right now

but one thing catched my attention dasa strt with sani -mars and ther is agni maruta yoga in 5/11 axis by sani mars drishti each other . also lagna lord and moon is in 6th House .the rasi is 6th frm indian indepednce chart ,also the affliction is on 4th house in indian independence chart .

5th is children ( citizens ) and purva punya ( merits frm past ) and 11th is gains and the Lorships also has to b considered .

this has to see with eclipses and there is a clue which one is strting first .here the solar one .i need to work on it .

may b mesha sankrathi also can guide us

Mesha sankranthi chart

April 14, 2009Time: 0:38:37Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, IndiaTithi: Krishna Panchami (Ju) (92.93% left)Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)Nakshatra: Jyeshtha (Me) (83.64% left)Yoga: Variyan (Ju) (83.64% left)Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (85.86% left)Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Aq)

i am also interested to know ur views .do u think the ruler may change in between this yr itself ?? means after forming Govtmnt

jup representing Hindu parties ( i dont know they hav any quality of guru ) is in debilation and afflicted and going to b in bheeta avasta .

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Sure Sunil ji, that is what I started with and am trying to trace the events> from in this chart.> > 26 Mar 2009, 21.35, New Delhi> > Asc Lib 21.48> Sun Pis 12.08> Mon Pis 12.08> Mar Aqu 15.02> Mer Pis 07.38> Jup cap 24.05> Ven Pic 13.59 R> Sat Leo 23.00 R> Ra Cap 13.40> Ke Cap 13.40> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2009/4/17 sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > >> >> > *hare ramakrishna *> >> > **> >> > *dear neelam ji *> >> > **> >> > *can u post the hindu new lunar yr (chaitra shukla prathipada ) chart *> >> > **> >> > *may b it has to read with all this eclipse ,my softwares are yet to> > download *> >> > **> >> > *rgrds sunil nair *> >> > *om shreem mahalaxmai namah *> >> >> > , neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > There will be a total solar eclipse with a magnitude of 1.080, visible in> > > most of South East Asia on Wednesday, July 22, 2009. It is the longest> > total> > > solar eclipse that will occur in the twenty-first century, and will not> > be> > > surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. Totality will last for up to 6> > > minutes and 39 seconds, with the maximum eclipse occurring in the ocean> > at> > > 02:35:21 UTC about 100 km south of the Bonin Islands, southeast of Japan.> > >> > > On 22nd July 2009 the planetary position is not very good:> > >> > > - Jup-sat opposition with both retrograding> > > - Mars-sat mutual aspect and venus is also afflicted by both mars and sat> > > - mo-su-ke-me conjunction in cancer in saturn's star> > > - Sun, of course, in degree conjunction at r/k axix> > > - Most of the planets are in extremely malefic shastiamshas.> > > - All planets under heavy affliction> > >> > > Jal tatwa seems to be afflicted on the day. There may be surges in the> > > sea, possibility> > > of an earthquake, like tsunami. Any comments?> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > > >>

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Dear Sunil ji,In the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart, tenth house (of government) has Ketu and the tenth lord moon is in close conjunction with Venus. Venus is also the LL of India and the dashanath, and ketu the antarnath, at the time of polls. Venus represents women and we have been watching a crucial role of women in the Indian politics. Venus is an exalted retrograde in the CSP chart with a neecha mercury representing women can mean a stubborn and not-so-logical an approach by the women at the helm. It can mean, besides Sonia, Mayawati, Jayalalitha, even Mamta etc, may throw their weight around.

Ketu is bound to create sneaky and devious underhand dealings in whatever is cooked by these women. A fierce look and a venomous tongue, an outcaste, inhaling smoke (may be not in cancer!) comes to mind. MAYA! I have some data on her, if that is correct, she is running a very appropriate dasha and shrewd she is!

There is a very strong possibility of a change in the equation within 2-3 months of the decision, or may be when the sun settles down. Jupiter’s movement in that period is emerging as a very significant factor at that time. Some horses might backtrack since they were bought in Ketu’s period. The decision can be reviewed by the President in Sun’s period.

Regarding the natural calamities, the CSP chart starts with a mars-sat mutual aspect which covers tau-leo at the time of eclipse. Taurus is India’s lagna and venus is also afflicted in lagna. Jup and sat both retrograde. This is a cause of concern. Affliction to cancer and eclipse happening in cancer appears to indicate jal tatwa. However, we have cancer in 10H, but I was also wondering, if the nations who are getting cancer rising in CSP chart, from 8-10 hrs east from us, could be more affected.

I shall appreciate your comments.RegardsNeelam

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dear neelam ji

thanks for ur view s

according to nature and karakatwa of dasas in independence chart ,cpc chart and even the mesha samkranthi chart there is showing Lot of changes and dasa is switching over to sun in Independence chart who is not so benefic but in 3rd house of upachaya is showing india can reverse lot of trend followed by us ( all venusian trends )

women will rule ( i mean deciding factor in coalitions ) the scenario till venus switch over and sun dasa may bring a diffrnt ruler and all the possiblity is there i feel ( if it happens it may b good too )

and all together it need not b a good period for bharath vasies in general and world at large due to jupitarian atichara and agni maruta yogas .

also eclipses and its begining and moksha rasies has to b scrutised for better results

but now i hav some constraints own my own

jalatatwa affected is one concern too .

in CPC chart -lagna is a vayu sign -10th house showing sky and 4th house ( patala ) is jala rasies and afflicted

 

in mesha samkranthi chart rising with agni tatwa rasi( with Lord in neecha and afflicted in 2nd house of money/granaries in raja jyothish (and he is also karaka for finnce /kids/punya/hindu /even gains )and 4th has a jala grha ( patal ) venus in a jala rasi who is retro and 10th is also a bhoomi sign .Is it showing dip in underground water or some problems in underground water ( as 4th Lord is also afflicted in a jala rasi makara whose later part is jala ) or even water scarcity ????

so too much rain and then scarcity and even uprising of water or watery areas disturbd may b possible.

actualy this kind of delinations shud b done by request of rulers or concerned persons and also with a grp of astrologers ( as it come under national horoscopy and raja jyothisha ) as it is wat tradition ( ashta mangala prashna ) says tho we r just following some intellectual discussions .

 

thanks and rgrds sunil nair

 

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > In the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart, tenth house (of government) has Ketu> and the tenth lord moon is in close conjunction with Venus. Venus is also> the LL of India and the dashanath, and ketu the antarnath, at the time of> polls. Venus represents women and we have been watching a crucial role of> women in the Indian politics. Venus is an exalted retrograde in the CSP> chart with a neecha mercury representing women can mean a stubborn and> not-so-logical an approach by the women at the helm. It can mean, besides> Sonia, Mayawati, Jayalalitha, even Mamta etc, may throw their weight around.> > > Ketu is bound to create sneaky and devious underhand dealings in whatever is> cooked by these women. A fierce look and a venomous tongue, an outcaste,> inhaling smoke (may be not in cancer!) comes to mind. MAYA! I have some data> on her, if that is correct, she is running a very appropriate dasha and> shrewd she is!> > There is a very strong possibility of a change in the equation within 2-3> months of the decision, or may be when the sun settles down. Jupiter's> movement in that period is emerging as a very significant factor at that> time. Some horses might backtrack since they were bought in Ketu's period.> The decision can be reviewed by the President in Sun's period.> > Regarding the natural calamities, the CSP chart starts with a mars-sat> mutual aspect which covers tau-leo at the time of eclipse. Taurus is India's> lagna and venus is also afflicted in lagna. Jup and sat both retrograde.> This is a cause of concern. Affliction to cancer and eclipse happening in> cancer appears to indicate jal tatwa. However, we have cancer in 10H, but I> was also wondering, if the nations who are getting cancer rising in CSP> chart, from 8-10 hrs east from us, could be more affected.> > I shall appreciate your comments.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear Group,

Nice of Neelamji to discuss mundane and very informative of Seniors to comment.

Sunil Nairji's post on Badhaka House & Grahas was what we expect from a "Guru" - one who dispels darkness.

Chiranjiv Mehta

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Yes. Totally agree. If you inspect the date of Mumbai deluge - It was similar position. There was to be "fire" in the water due to Mars, Sun in Karka and Rahu aspecting from Meena - also in Jal-Tatva.

This time Rahu is in Capricon - some say half water/half land.

Problems with India's neighbours as per the independence chart ?Leo will also be heavily affected.

Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Fri, 17/4/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: chaitra shukla pratipada"" Friday, 17 April, 2009, 11:20 PM

 

 

Dear All,There will be a total solar eclipse with a magnitude of 1.080, visible in most of South East Asia on Wednesday, July 22, 2009. It is the longest total solar eclipse that will occur in the twenty-first century, and will not be surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. Totality will last for up to 6 minutes and 39 seconds, with the maximum eclipse occurring in the ocean at 02:35:21 UTC about 100 km south of the Bonin Islands, southeast of Japan.On 22nd July 2009 the planetary position is not very good:

 

Jup-sat opposition with both retrograding

Mars-sat mutual aspect and venus is also afflicted by both mars and sat

mo-su-ke-me conjunction in cancer in saturn’s star

Sun, of course, in degree conjunction at r/k axix

Most of the planets are in extremely malefic shastiamshas.

All planets under heavy afflictionJal tatwa seems to be afflicted on the day. There may be surges in the sea, possibility of an earthquake, like tsunami. Any comments?RegardsNeelam

 

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