Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Sorry forgot to mention this bit.......AAAAAaaaastchooooo.........I do wish peoppem wouldn't bring flowers with pollen.............AAAAAaaaastchooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Hello. Fruits and flowers have got certain reasons to be taken alongwith them by a native in India to a Jyotish. 1) Eatable and flowers are a form of offering to anybody revered. This is also taken to a temple visit by those who know, in India. No one should go emptyhanded to a Temple, Guru or ailing relative admitted in a Hospital (Though the last part-Relative is soon becoming obselete now) 2) The colours of the fruit and the fruits name itself suggests something to the astrologer before the native opens his mouth to talk about his problems. In same way the flowers too suggest something. Colour of the fruits and flowers represents the planet which is the Ruling Planet (Elevated )in natives chart. Their names first letter also represents their Moon Constellation. The taste of the fruit suggests the primary Guna prevailing in the person, Tamo, Rajas or Satwa. Etc.Etc. I do not wish to talk of these secrets in details. 3) When the Native does not have a recorded birth time, then the astrologer asks any person sitting there to count the petals and the remainder (After a certain divisible count) represents the Zodiac sign of the native. We have at least a dozen rules related to the science of fruits and flowers, sitting position in front of astrologer, standing position, position while speaking, being seated on which side, facing on which side, touching hands to certain parts of the body etc. all this makes some sense in Indian Jyotish. India is a great country and posseses great knowledge still untapped. There are people in remote unaccessible villages who at times can predict marvellously better at times, than those of us who have studied under modern educated professors in High Ranking Universities of Astrology. Hayfever shouldnt be a problem much here because we have been brought up to know flowers at close quarters and rarely does a man here would be, who goes to a temple without a flower garland. Even in the pooja Rooms at home flowers are offered daily to the Diety. Hay Fever is a much bigger problem to those who live in cold countries, who stay whole day in AC Rooms, who use the Carpets and Beds too often. Here its warm and people though stay in the AC at work and at sleep, yet like the Sunlight too. Flowers and the pollen therein, therefore affects only a few here. I think we should worry about other matters, rather than Indian astrologers getting hayfever when someone comes to them with flowers. And even if they have fever from flowers which mis-conception you may have apparently, still getting fever from flowers is better than getting fever from perfumes which give artificial smell of vegetable and flowers which come in india mostly from abroad and gives a headache.. Bhaskar. , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > So either:- > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > please guide > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Marg, Sneezing, either by the client or jyotishi, is considered to be a bad omen when it occurs during the reading. JR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Sorry forgot to mention this bit.......AAAAAaaaastchooooo.........I do wish peoppem wouldn't bring flowers with pollen.............AAAAAaaaastchooooo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Reminds me of a Reiki experience I came upon. This new initiate in Reiki asked the Master, " Do you cancel an appointment with a reiki client when you have hay fever? " . The master replied without batting an eyelid, " Since practising Reiki, I have never caught a cold or hay fever! " RR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > So either:- > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > please guide > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I logged into this group after many months as I had absolutely nothing to do otherwise. This post caught my attention. Firstly, " Hay fever " results largely from grass pollen. When someone goes to a Jyotishi, he does not go with flowers picked from the park, street corners, wild flowers, caranation flowers etc. Some flowers in India are classified as specific for worship, the best I can think of is jasmine (various types). Same goes with fruits, nobody goes with strawberries, blue berries, black berries. The best fruit I can think of is banana. These flowers and fruits have been grown in Indian soil for centuries together. They are scatterd all over places labelled flower market or fruit market. If at all anyone is allergic, he would sneeze in the market itself and his commonsense would avoid buying those fruits/vegetables. The cases of hay fever arising from these will be negligible, if any. Hay fever itself, is at higher levels in the nothern hemisphere because of the climatic conditions If the jyotish is allergic, he would inform beforehand. I know this because normally anyone does not go to a jyotish directly. They ask him for a " to take to the jyotish list " And other thing, I noted in what you wrote is about the " white hanky " or linen. I think hanky is a piece of square. Linen is much bigger than that. The word for it is " vastra " or cloth. Traditional astrologers wear a white cloth, it is called dhoti around the waist and covers his body with another piece. Hence it is a twin set. The client offers him a dhoti set, that takes care of his basic needs. This process is called " dakshina " or an offering. The dakshina is something useful to the person who receives. No point in gifting him with a pair of bermudas or jeans which he is never going to wear. It is a token of respect and appreciation for the astrologer. (Maybe astrologers in the west would take a shirt and pant!!!) Regards, bhagavathi , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > So either:- > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > please guide > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hi John Thanks for this. I was reduced to fits of sneezing after spending hours in a room full of pollen after being given beautiful flowers. The pollen count is high here anyway. I did wonder why giving flowers etc should be a tradition as I'm sure many would have this same problem of allergy. I only recently developed this allergy, and love flowers, so am quite amused now that I'll have to say to people please don't bring flowers:-) best wishes M - John Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:27 PM Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish Marg, Sneezing, either by the client or jyotishi, is considered to be a bad omen when it occurs during the reading. JR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Sorry forgot to mention this bit.......AAAAAaaaastchooooo.........I do wish peoppem wouldn't bring flowers with pollen.............AAAAAaaaastchooooo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Dear R Oddly I've never had hay fever until the last two years, and I took up reiki Hummmm in the last three years! Still the pollen count is very high and starts earlier every year due to weather change. I think nasya remedy is one of choice in Ayurveda, so must get the oil out:-) Seriously though is hay fever not a common complaint in India? best wishes M - Rohiniranjan Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:02 PM Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish Reminds me of a Reiki experience I came upon. This new initiate in Reiki asked the Master, " Do you cancel an appointment with a reiki client when you have hay fever? " . The master replied without batting an eyelid, " Since practising Reiki, I have never caught a cold or hay fever! " RR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > So either:- > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > please guide > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Dear Marg, You may chose to ignore this mail, as you have ignored my other ones. I will just do my duty. You are right about allergies existing in India, which is there in mant forms in almost common groups of people. But I suupose this must be there everywhere else in the world. Like some people cannot stand dust, while others would not like to sit in a cab with clothed sofa covers, but would prefer the rexin ones, and still some people when they book a room in Hotels, ask for the carpets to be removed from the room etc. regards, Bhaskar. , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Dear R > Oddly I've never had hay fever until the last two years, and I took up reiki Hummmm in the last three years! > Still the pollen count is very high and starts earlier every year due to weather change. I think nasya remedy is one of choice in Ayurveda, so must get the oil out:-) > Seriously though is hay fever not a common complaint in India? > best wishes > M > > > > > - > Rohiniranjan > > Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:02 PM > Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > Reminds me of a Reiki experience I came upon. This new initiate in Reiki asked the Master, " Do you cancel an appointment with a reiki client when you have hay fever? " . The master replied without batting an eyelid, " Since practising Reiki, I have never caught a cold or hay fever! " > > RR > > , " Marg " margie9@ wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone > > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > > > So either:- > > > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > > > please guide > > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Hello. Fruits and flowers have got certain reasons to be taken alongwith them by a native in India to a Jyotish. 1) Eatable and flowers are a form of offering to anybody revered. This is also taken to a temple visit by those who know, in India. No one should go emptyhanded to a Temple, Guru or ailing relative admitted in a Hospital (Though the last part-Relative is soon becoming obselete now) 2) The colours of the fruit and the fruits name itself suggests something to the astrologer before the native opens his mouth to talk about his problems. In same way the flowers too suggest something. Colour of the fruits and flowers represents the planet which is the Ruling Planet (Elevated )in natives chart. Their names first letter also represents their Moon Constellation. The taste of the fruit suggests the primary Guna prevailing in the person, Tamo, Rajas or Satwa. Etc.Etc. I do not wish to talk of these secrets in details. 3) When the Native does not have a recorded birth time, then the astrologer asks any person sitting there to count the petals and the remainder (After a certain divisible count) represents the Zodiac sign of the native. We have at least a dozen rules related to the science of fruits and flowers, sitting position in front of astrologer, standing position, position while speaking, being seated on which side, facing on which side, touching hands to certain parts of the body etc. all this makes some sense in Indian Jyotish. India is a great country and posseses great knowledge still untapped. There are people in remote unaccessible villages who at times can predict marvellously better at times, than those of us who have studied under modern educated professors in High Ranking Universities of Astrology. Hayfever shouldnt be a problem much here because we have been brought up to know flowers at close quarters and rarely does a man here would be, who goes to a temple without a flower garland. Even in the pooja Rooms at home flowers are offered daily to the Diety. Hay Fever is a much bigger problem to those who live in cold countries, who stay whole day in AC Rooms, who use the Carpets and Beds too often. Here its warm and people though stay in the AC at work and at sleep, yet like the Sunlight too. Flowers and the pollen therein, therefore affects only a few here. I think we should worry about other matters, rather than Indian astrologers getting hayfever when someone comes to them with flowers. And even if they have fever from flowers which mis-conception you may have apparently, still getting fever from flowers is better than getting fever from perfumes which give artificial smell of vegetable and flowers which come in india mostly from abroad and gives a headache.. Bhaskar. , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > So either:- > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > please guide > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Respected Sh.Sreenadh ji, What Sh. Baskar has written is true. I have respect for him. But we forget the Desh, Kala and Patra. What Sh Bhaskar has written indicates the time when we were agriculturist. We have abundance of flowers and vegetable available at hand, not money. The people were simple and live in villages. were not educated as today. Still they have respect for the astrologers. They desired to pay to an astrologer in terms of flowers and vegetables. The astrologer having limited time and instruments to calculate, use these offering to create chart for the time for the individual i.e. horary chart, believing that the nature has guided the querist for all the offerrings as we take ruling planets for the time in K.P system. We have developed " Swara " and " Shakun " to answer the query. The reply given by the astrologer comes true. Why? Because the astrologers leads a simple life devoted to the service of humanity and love to God. Moreover the querist has full faith on the astrologer and his advice. But time has changed the astrologer and the quirist. Love and regards --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Sreenadh <sreesog > Fwd: Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 6:54 PM > , > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Hello. > > Fruits and flowers have got certain reasons to be taken > alongwith them > by a native in India to a Jyotish. > > 1) Eatable and flowers are a form of offering to anybody > revered. This > is also taken to a temple visit by those who know, in > India. No one > should go emptyhanded to a Temple, Guru or ailing relative > admitted in a > Hospital (Though the last part-Relative is soon > becoming obselete now) > > 2) The colours of the fruit and the fruits name itself > suggests > something to the astrologer before the native opens his > mouth to talk > about his problems. In same way the flowers too suggest > something. > Colour of the fruits and flowers represents the planet > which is the > Ruling Planet (Elevated )in natives chart. Their names > first letter also > represents their Moon Constellation. The taste of the fruit > suggests the > primary Guna prevailing in the person, Tamo, Rajas or > Satwa. Etc.Etc. I > do not wish to talk of these secrets in details. > > 3) When the Native does not have a recorded birth time, > then the > astrologer asks any person sitting there to count the > petals and the > remainder (After a certain divisible count) represents the > Zodiac sign > of the native. We have at least a dozen rules related to > the science of > fruits and flowers, sitting position in front of > astrologer, standing > position, position while speaking, being seated on which > side, facing on > which side, touching hands to certain parts of the body > etc. all this > makes some sense in Indian Jyotish. > > India is a great country and posseses great knowledge still > untapped. > There are people in remote unaccessible villages who at > times can > predict marvellously better at times, than those of us who > have studied > under modern educated professors in High Ranking > Universities of > Astrology. > > Hayfever shouldnt be a problem much here because we have > been brought up > to know flowers at close quarters and rarely does a > man here would be, > who goes to a temple without a flower garland. Even in the > pooja Rooms > at home flowers are offered daily to the Diety. Hay Fever > is a much > bigger problem to those who live in cold countries, who > stay whole day > in AC Rooms, who use the Carpets and Beds too often. Here > its warm and > people though stay in the AC at work and at sleep, yet like > the Sunlight > too. Flowers and the pollen therein, therefore affects only > a few here. > > I think we should worry about other matters, rather than > Indian > astrologers getting hayfever when someone comes to them > with flowers. > And even if they have fever from flowers which > mis-conception you may > have apparently, still getting fever from flowers is better > than getting > fever from perfumes which give artificial smell of > vegetable and flowers > which come in india mostly from abroad and gives a > headache.. > > Bhaskar. , > " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone > > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take > flowers, fruit and > white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish > reading is > sought? > > > > So either:- > > > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because > if they get hay > fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes > in the first > place:-) > > > > please guide > > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Respected Kursijaji, Traditions have not changed even now, the practise of giving flowers, fruits, coconut, a set of dhoti, blouse piece/sari to the female of the household of the astrologer, still continues even in urban India, in places like Matunga, Chembur, Dadar, Sion, and suburbs of Bombay. However, people also give cash along with these now-a-days . Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 At my Home, we always keep such items like Dhotis and a Shirt pieces , in stock, and also some new utsensils etc, which have been kept especially for the Brahmins who come at our place. I see this is being done by Mother since childhood (She being a South indian) which tradition luckily my Wife too does not mind following. The places which you mentioned, you are right they still bear the culture of india, and when we visit Sion Matunga we feel as we have landed in another city which is not Bombay but at some South indian temple with the fresshness and fragrance of flowers etc. all around, with people walking wearing Dhotis, and idli Dosa etc. being made in the lanes near these temples . I love Matunga also because I was in the school " Don Bosco High Scool at Matunga " . regards/Bhaskar. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Respected Kursijaji, > > Traditions have not changed even now, the practise of giving flowers, fruits, coconut, a set of dhoti, blouse piece/sari to the female of the household of the astrologer, still continues even in urban India, in places like Matunga, Chembur, Dadar, Sion, and suburbs of Bombay. However, people also give cash along with these now-a-days . > > Regards, > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Thanks for your response, it was very interesting to read and reminded me of something else that happened recently with regards to allergies. One of my 'clients' arrived to only declare she had an allergy to dogs. Oddly I normally tell people I have a dog so they know beforehand, but because this lady was a friend of so many other people who had been to me for a consultation I forgot to mention this. I should have consulted her chart for this allergy beforehand, or better still, asked her. I find it interesting that you say normally no one goes to a jyotish directly? An Indian friend of mine does go to see her jyotish in India where many queue for hours for a consultation, and I don't think they made an appointment. As you say yes the gift should be something of use to the jyotish, but in the west I expect it impossible to know what one would find useful! best wishes M - bhagavathi_hariharan Monday, April 06, 2009 2:37 AM Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish I logged into this group after many months as I had absolutely nothing to do otherwise. This post caught my attention. Firstly, " Hay fever " results largely from grass pollen. When someone goes to a Jyotishi, he does not go with flowers picked from the park, street corners, wild flowers, caranation flowers etc. Some flowers in India are classified as specific for worship, the best I can think of is jasmine (various types). Same goes with fruits, nobody goes with strawberries, blue berries, black berries. The best fruit I can think of is banana. These flowers and fruits have been grown in Indian soil for centuries together. They are scatterd all over places labelled flower market or fruit market. If at all anyone is allergic, he would sneeze in the market itself and his commonsense would avoid buying those fruits/vegetables. The cases of hay fever arising from these will be negligible, if any. Hay fever itself, is at higher levels in the nothern hemisphere because of the climatic conditions If the jyotish is allergic, he would inform beforehand. I know this because normally anyone does not go to a jyotish directly. They ask him for a " to take to the jyotish list " And other thing, I noted in what you wrote is about the " white hanky " or linen. I think hanky is a piece of square. Linen is much bigger than that. The word for it is " vastra " or cloth. Traditional astrologers wear a white cloth, it is called dhoti around the waist and covers his body with another piece. Hence it is a twin set. The client offers him a dhoti set, that takes care of his basic needs. This process is called " dakshina " or an offering. The dakshina is something useful to the person who receives. No point in gifting him with a pair of bermudas or jeans which he is never going to wear. It is a token of respect and appreciation for the astrologer. (Maybe astrologers in the west would take a shirt and pant!!!) Regards, bhagavathi , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi Everyone > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > So either:- > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > please guide > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > M > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hi Bhaskar I have not received others I think due to the mail address you post from being deleted from last year and not allowed to drop; into my in tray. I have recently spring cleaned my mail options. However, thanks for this response which was interesting to read. I think allergies do pose problems for the jyotish and people coming for a reading. Normally if this is a health problem for people I explain I am not a doctor and recommend that route as a priority but I also tell them about ayurvedic remedies. Allergies can be deathly for some and I don't have any charts where death has arisen due to this medical problem, though much research in the Uk is being done to help people overcome them. best wishes M - Bhaskar Monday, April 06, 2009 1:45 PM Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish Dear Marg, You may chose to ignore this mail, as you have ignored my other ones. I will just do my duty. You are right about allergies existing in India, which is there in mant forms in almost common groups of people. But I suupose this must be there everywhere else in the world. Like some people cannot stand dust, while others would not like to sit in a cab with clothed sofa covers, but would prefer the rexin ones, and still some people when they book a room in Hotels, ask for the carpets to be removed from the room etc. regards, Bhaskar. , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Dear R > Oddly I've never had hay fever until the last two years, and I took up reiki Hummmm in the last three years! > Still the pollen count is very high and starts earlier every year due to weather change. I think nasya remedy is one of choice in Ayurveda, so must get the oil out:-) > Seriously though is hay fever not a common complaint in India? > best wishes > M > > > > > - > Rohiniranjan > > Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:02 PM > Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > Reminds me of a Reiki experience I came upon. This new initiate in Reiki asked the Master, " Do you cancel an appointment with a reiki client when you have hay fever? " . The master replied without batting an eyelid, " Since practising Reiki, I have never caught a cold or hay fever! " > > RR > > , " Marg " margie9@ wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone > > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > > > So either:- > > > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > > > please guide > > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Marg, I too have allergies, particularly the cold weather , and pollen during spring. I recently tried an ayurvedic rasayana. It appears to cut down my sneezing and runny nose. JR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi John > Thanks for this. I was reduced to fits of sneezing after spending hours in a room full of pollen after being given beautiful flowers. The pollen count is high here anyway. > I did wonder why giving flowers etc should be a tradition as I'm sure many would have this same problem of allergy. > I only recently developed this allergy, and love flowers, so am quite amused now that I'll have to say to people please don't bring flowers:-) > best wishes > M > > - > John > > Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:27 PM > Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > Marg, > > Sneezing, either by the client or jyotishi, is considered to be a bad omen when it occurs during the reading. > > JR > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Sorry forgot to mention this bit.......AAAAAaaaastchooooo.........I do wish peoppem wouldn't bring flowers with pollen.............AAAAAaaaastchooooo > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hi John I think one of the remedies is naysa where you massage the upper parts of the nostril with warmed and purified oils. This is also soothin g to the emotions as well. Oddly told an astrologer friend of this only last week as she too was having sinus problems. Another remedy is inhaling salt water which can also clear out the sinuses, so maybe I ought to start and follow my own advice! Though I do have to say that there are also allergy pills on the market which do seem fast acting. I think it isn't just nose that gets sneezy it's also the eyes that it affects as well, and I ended up with styes starting to itch on the lids, though soon got rid of those thankfully.It also give slight headedness and headaches at its worst. Not a nice condition for young children sitting exams at this time of year either. best wishes M - John Monday, April 06, 2009 7:41 PM Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish Marg, I too have allergies, particularly the cold weather , and pollen during spring. I recently tried an ayurvedic rasayana. It appears to cut down my sneezing and runny nose. JR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi John > Thanks for this. I was reduced to fits of sneezing after spending hours in a room full of pollen after being given beautiful flowers. The pollen count is high here anyway. > I did wonder why giving flowers etc should be a tradition as I'm sure many would have this same problem of allergy. > I only recently developed this allergy, and love flowers, so am quite amused now that I'll have to say to people please don't bring flowers:-) > best wishes > M > > - > John > > Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:27 PM > Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > Marg, > > Sneezing, either by the client or jyotishi, is considered to be a bad omen when it occurs during the reading. > > JR > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Sorry forgot to mention this bit.......AAAAAaaaastchooooo.........I do wish peoppem wouldn't bring flowers with pollen.............AAAAAaaaastchooooo > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I have read somewhere (can't recall the specific paper on medscape) that in an epi study, they compared the allergies in different nations and India had something like 25-30% allergic (not specifically hay fever) whereas the prevalence was a lot higher in other more industrialized nations. The incidence in India is increasing though over the years, particularly more in modern cities. , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Dear R > Oddly I've never had hay fever until the last two years, and I took up reiki Hummmm in the last three years! > Still the pollen count is very high and starts earlier every year due to weather change. I think nasya remedy is one of choice in Ayurveda, so must get the oil out:-) > Seriously though is hay fever not a common complaint in India? > best wishes > M > > > > > - > Rohiniranjan > > Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:02 PM > Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > Reminds me of a Reiki experience I came upon. This new initiate in Reiki asked the Master, " Do you cancel an appointment with a reiki client when you have hay fever? " . The master replied without batting an eyelid, " Since practising Reiki, I have never caught a cold or hay fever! " > > RR > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone > > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > > > So either:- > > > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > > > please guide > > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Friends, As on Monday 6th april a client of mine came to for fixing muhurtham for conducting marriage for his daugter's marriage bringing flower, fruit, betel leaves & betelnuts.Such practice continues as these are considered for good omen. Westerners views everything materially while we view it spiritually. There is a proverb " XXXX does not Know the smell of campher. S.Sivaraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear R My theory is the cleaning materials we are expected to breathe in on a daily basis are the cause of many problems. - Rohiniranjan Monday, April 06, 2009 11:20 PM Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish I have read somewhere (can't recall the specific paper on medscape) that in an epi study, they compared the allergies in different nations and India had something like 25-30% allergic (not specifically hay fever) whereas the prevalence was a lot higher in other more industrialized nations. The incidence in India is increasing though over the years, particularly more in modern cities. , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Dear R > Oddly I've never had hay fever until the last two years, and I took up reiki Hummmm in the last three years! > Still the pollen count is very high and starts earlier every year due to weather change. I think nasya remedy is one of choice in Ayurveda, so must get the oil out:-) > Seriously though is hay fever not a common complaint in India? > best wishes > M > > > > > - > Rohiniranjan > > Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:02 PM > Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > Reminds me of a Reiki experience I came upon. This new initiate in Reiki asked the Master, " Do you cancel an appointment with a reiki client when you have hay fever? " . The master replied without batting an eyelid, " Since practising Reiki, I have never caught a cold or hay fever! " > > RR > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone > > I note that the tradition in jyotish is to take flowers, fruit and white hanky or linen to give to the jyotish if a jyotish reading is sought? > > > > So either:- > > > > a) jyotishes in India don 't ever get Hay Fever or > > > > b) this tradition is out of date? or > > > > c) this tradition singles out the true jyotish because if they get hay fever from flowers brought then they shouldn't be jyotishes in the first place:-) > > > > please guide > > love and light in the true tradition of jyotish > > M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Bhasker ji, That sounds interesting. I also studied from Don Bosco School in Delhi. Warm Regards Amit Nakai Bhaskar Monday, April 06, 2009 8:42 PM Fwd: Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish At my Home, we always keep such items like Dhotis and a Shirt pieces ,in stock, and also some new utsensils etc, which have been keptespecially for the Brahmins who come at our place. I see this is beingdone by Mother since childhood (She being a South indian) whichtradition luckily my Wife too does not mind following.The places which you mentioned, you are right they still bear theculture of india, and when we visit Sion Matunga we feel as we havelanded in another city which is not Bombay but at some South indiantemple with the fresshness and fragrance of flowers etc. all around,with people walking wearing Dhotis, and idli Dosa etc. being made in thelanes near these temples . I love Matunga also because I was in theschool "Don Bosco High Scool at Matunga".regards/Bhaskar. , "bhagavathi_hariharan"<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Respected Kursijaji,>> Traditions have not changed even now, the practise of giving flowers,fruits, coconut, a set of dhoti, blouse piece/sari to the female of thehousehold of the astrologer, still continues even in urban India, inplaces like Matunga, Chembur, Dadar, Sion, and suburbs of Bombay.However, people also give cash along with these now-a-days .>> Regards,> bhagavathi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Amit ji, Great, So You are my junior colleauge as past student of the school, though from another Branch. cheers, Bhaskar. , " Amit Nakai " <amit.nakai wrote: > > Dear Bhasker ji, > > That sounds interesting. I also studied from Don Bosco School in Delhi. > > Warm Regards > Amit Nakai > > > Bhaskar > Monday, April 06, 2009 8:42 PM > > Fwd: Re: Hay Fever and Jyotish > > > > At my Home, we always keep such items like Dhotis and a Shirt pieces , > in stock, and also some new utsensils etc, which have been kept > especially for the Brahmins who come at our place. I see this is being > done by Mother since childhood (She being a South indian) which > tradition luckily my Wife too does not mind following. > > The places which you mentioned, you are right they still bear the > culture of india, and when we visit Sion Matunga we feel as we have > landed in another city which is not Bombay but at some South indian > temple with the fresshness and fragrance of flowers etc. all around, > with people walking wearing Dhotis, and idli Dosa etc. being made in the > lanes near these temples . I love Matunga also because I was in the > school " Don Bosco High Scool at Matunga " . > > regards/Bhaskar. > > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote: > > > > Respected Kursijaji, > > > > Traditions have not changed even now, the practise of giving flowers, > fruits, coconut, a set of dhoti, blouse piece/sari to the female of the > household of the astrologer, still continues even in urban India, in > places like Matunga, Chembur, Dadar, Sion, and suburbs of Bombay. > However, people also give cash along with these now-a-days . > > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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