Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Dear Mr. Pradeep ad other Friends, Vargottama can be divided in following categories: 1 Most common is when a planet is in same sign in two vargas.. If planet is in sign vargottama  in D-1 and either D-9 ,or D-3 or D-12 becomes very auspicious.One can refer Ch-3 of of 'Navansa in Astrology by C.S.Patel. 2. ASCENDING SIGN OF TWO VAGAS IS SAME . THEN THIS IS CALLED VAGA-VARGOTTAMA.    This varga gives yoga results , when Lagna is aspected by more than one planet . 3Similarly ,THIS ALSO GIVES YOGA RESULTS IF MORE THAN ONE PLANET ASPECTS VAGOTTAMA  MOON LAGNA. THE DICTUM  EXPLAINED IN SL.. 2 AND 3 ABOVE MAY BE REFEREED TO CH -14 SLOKA -6 0F LAGHU JATAK BY VARHA MIHIRA 4.Bhava Vargottama : Kindly refer ch-2 -Navamsa literature Terminology-in the above referred book by Mr. Patel  Page 20-sl14 ; " 'BHAVOTTAMA MEANS A PLANET IN SAME HOUSE IN RASI AND NAVAMSA CHART: It enhances the good results of the house occupied. " Mr. Patel further says;research on this point is necessary' I discussed this subject two times with Mr. Patel during my visit to Mumbai during his life time. The result of my discussions  was ultimately transformed the article 'CONCEPT OF VARGOTTAMA' PRASAN MARGA SAYS THAT YOGA IS FORMED IN 7 WAYS. Out of these two ways are a) Sign is same in LAGNA IN ONE OR MORE VARGAS ,B)SIMILARLY A  PLANET IS IN ONE OR MORE VARGA IN SAME HOUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF SIGN. THIS OPENS UP TWO POSSIBILITIES A) Moon in the Lagna in one or more vargas irrespective of sign ,It will give yoga results if aspected by more than one planet. B) Any planet is in same bhava in more than one Varga. It will give yoga results ,if aspected by planet more the better. Kindly go through my article at-least once sincerely, and then give constructive suggestions. It will go a long way to open new horizon in predictive astrology. Some of the members start reacting with out giving due consideration.and react instinctively for the sake of only writing and imposing themselves. This does not help the cause of astrology. Some persons are well read and intelligent.Unfortunately they do not have either humility or most importantly wisdom. Let God grant them some wisdom. Regards,  G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep Saturday, 26 April, 2008 3:50:50 PM Re: Vargootama - Goel Ji Namaste Goel ji Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) being in Vargottama. If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics are twisted. Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as mentioned by sages. You are free to hold your personal opionion. Regards Pradeep Check out the all-new face of India. Go to http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Dear Goel ji Thank you for the detailed explanation. Vargottama is an important concept mentioned in classics and hence any study or research on the topic will be useful.I have observed the powerful effect of vargottama planets in charts. Any vargottama planet will appaear to be in ''bhavottama(two charts)'' whenever the lagna is as well vargottama.Lagna attaining varga in the same rashi as its placement, is the deciding factor. Bhava suchaka navamsha principle can help us here.It comes into picture when we are mapping a derived amsha back to its origin - ie.rashi chakra.In the reverse case bhava will not be used.(Ashtamsha yuktha etc without any bhava is used -Meaning joining the 8th amsha from lagnamsha). In principle one can take lagna navamsha or other vargas of lagna as a reference point, in rashi chakra,(similar to karakamsha) and can also consider aspects. In my view incomplete understanding often leads to treatment of vargamsha arrangements as seperate entities, violating all fundamental definitions. Please give the reference from Prashna Marga.English translations can always be misleading. Thanks again Pradeep sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Pradeep ad other Friends, > Vargottama can be divided in following categories: > 1 Most common is when a planet is in same sign in two vargas.. If planet is in sign vargottama >  in D-1 and either D-9 ,or D-3 or D-12 becomes very auspicious.One can refer Ch-3 of of 'Navansa in Astrology > by C.S.Patel. > 2. ASCENDING SIGN OF TWO VAGAS IS SAME . THEN THIS IS CALLED VAGA- VARGOTTAMA. >    This varga gives yoga results , when Lagna is aspected by more than one planet . > 3Similarly ,THIS ALSO GIVES YOGA RESULTS IF MORE THAN ONE PLANET ASPECTS VAGOTTAMA  MOON LAGNA. > THE DICTUM  EXPLAINED IN SL.. 2 AND 3 ABOVE MAY BE REFEREED TO CH -14 SLOKA -6 0F LAGHU > JATAK BY VARHA MIHIRA > 4.Bhava Vargottama : Kindly refer ch-2 -Navamsa literature Terminology-in the above referred book by Mr. Patel >  Page 20-sl14 ; > " 'BHAVOTTAMA MEANS A PLANET IN SAME HOUSE IN RASI AND NAVAMSA CHART: > It enhances the good results of the house occupied. " > Mr. Patel further says;research on this point is necessary' > I discussed this subject two times with Mr. Patel during my visit to Mumbai during his life time. > The result of my discussions  was ultimately transformed the article 'CONCEPT OF VARGOTTAMA' > PRASAN MARGA SAYS THAT YOGA IS FORMED IN 7 WAYS. Out of these two ways are a) Sign is same in LAGNA > IN ONE OR MORE VARGAS ,B)SIMILARLY A  PLANET IS IN ONE OR MORE VARGA IN SAME HOUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF SIGN. > THIS OPENS UP TWO POSSIBILITIES > A) Moon in the Lagna in one or more vargas irrespective of sign ,It will give yoga results if aspected by more than one planet. > B) Any planet is in same bhava in more than one Varga. It will give yoga results ,if aspected by planet more the better. > Kindly go through my article at-least once sincerely, and then give constructive suggestions. It will go a long way to open new horizon in predictive > astrology. Some of the members start reacting with out giving due consideration.and react instinctively for the sake of only writing and imposing themselves. > This does not help the cause of astrology. > Some persons are well read and intelligent.Unfortunately they do not have either humility or most importantly wisdom. > Let God grant them some wisdom. > Regards, >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > > Saturday, 26 April, 2008 3:50:50 PM > Re: Vargootama - Goel Ji > > > Namaste Goel ji > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) > being in Vargottama. > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics > are twisted. > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as > mentioned by sages. > > You are free to hold your personal opionion. > > Regards > Pradeep > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. Go to http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008  Respected Goyalji, Namaste. How are you? I was following your virgottama discussions with interest. Here you are telling that virgottama planets will give auspicious results. Mars is virgottama in my chart, in same sign in D1, D2(Jn), D2(Kn),D3(Jn), D9. But it never gives me any auspicious result. Is it because mars is my badhakesha, involved in 3-curses. I am attaching my chart. I am yet to understand a suitable remedy for the same. Mainly it affects my finance durings it's subdasas. Best regards Dasgupta sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Gopal GoelTuesday, April 29, 2008 11:41 PM Cc: vedic astrology ; Ramadas Rao; Sanjay Rath; sohamsa Re: Bhava Vargottama Dear Mr. Pradeep ad other Friends, Vargottama can be divided in following categories: 1 Most common is when a planet is in same sign in two vargas. If planet is in sign vargottama in D-1 and either D-9 ,or D-3 or D-12 becomes very auspicious.One can refer Ch-3 of of 'Navansa in Astrology by C.S.Patel. 2. ASCENDING SIGN OF TWO VAGAS IS SAME . THEN THIS IS CALLED VAGA-VARGOTTAMA. This varga gives yoga results , when Lagna is aspected by more than one planet . 3Similarly ,THIS ALSO GIVES YOGA RESULTS IF MORE THAN ONE PLANET ASPECTS VAGOTTAMA MOON LAGNA. THE DICTUM EXPLAINED IN SL. 2 AND 3 ABOVE MAY BE REFEREED TO CH -14 SLOKA -6 0F LAGHU JATAK BY VARHA MIHIRA 4.Bhava Vargottama : Kindly refer ch-2 -Navamsa literature Terminology-in the above referred book by Mr. Patel Page 20-sl14 ; "'BHAVOTTAMA MEANS A PLANET IN SAME HOUSE IN RASI AND NAVAMSA CHART: It enhances the good results of the house occupied." Mr. Patel further says;research on this point is necessary' I discussed this subject two times with Mr. Patel during my visit to Mumbai during his life time. The result of my discussions was ultimately transformed the article 'CONCEPT OF VARGOTTAMA' PRASAN MARGA SAYS THAT YOGA IS FORMED IN 7 WAYS. Out of these two ways are a) Sign is same in LAGNA IN ONE OR MORE VARGAS ,B)SIMILARLY A PLANET IS IN ONE OR MORE VARGA IN SAME HOUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF SIGN. THIS OPENS UP TWO POSSIBILITIES A) Moon in the Lagna in one or more vargas irrespective of sign ,It will give yoga results if aspected by more than one planet.. B) Any planet is in same bhava in more than one Varga. It will give yoga results ,if aspected by planet more the better. Kindly go through my article at-least once sincerely, and then give constructive suggestions. It will go a long way to open new horizon in predictive astrology. Some of the members start reacting with out giving due consideration.and react instinctively for the sake of only writing and imposing themselves. This does not help the cause of astrology. Some persons are well read and intelligent.Unfortunately they do not have either humility or most importantly wisdom. Let God grant them some wisdom. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > Sent: Saturday, 26 April, 2008 3:50:50 PM Re: Vargootama - Goel Ji Namaste Goel jiClassics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) being in Vargottama.If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama.The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics are twisted.Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as mentioned by sages.You are free to hold your personal opionion.RegardsPradeep Check out the all-new face of India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Dasgupta , Namaskar You mean in Mangal-dasas? Its due to parivartana with Budha in D9. It can give career and financial losses connected to women/travelling. Mangal is also near debilitation (Gemini sign - close to cancer) as 2 and L's from AL - so it causes Pravraja (jaimini). You have pretty spiritual chart. You have prominent Guru in D1, D9, D10; Were you working as a teacher/lawyer/consultant? Vargottam is only positive for strong/auspicious planets otherwise it causes afflictions to name and health. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal jk.dasgupta napisał(a):  Respected Goyalji,  Namaste. How are you? I was following your virgottama discussions with interest. Here you are telling that virgottama planets will give auspicious results.  Mars is virgottama in my chart, in same sign in D1, D2(Jn), D2(Kn),D3(Jn) , D9. But it never gives me any auspicious result. Is it because mars is my badhakesha, involved in 3-curses.  I am attaching my chart. I am yet to understand a suitable remedy for the same. Mainly it affects my finance durings it's subdasas.  Best regards  Dasgupta  sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ . com]On Behalf Of Gopal Goel Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:41 PM ancient_indian_ astrology Cc: vedic astrology; Ramadas Rao; Sanjay Rath; sohamsa Re: Bhava Vargottama Dear Mr. Pradeep ad other Friends, Vargottama can be divided in following categories: 1 Most common is when a planet is in same sign in two vargas. If planet is in sign vargottama  in D-1 and either D-9 ,or D-3 or D-12 becomes very auspicious.One can refer Ch-3 of of 'Navansa in Astrology by C.S.Patel. 2. ASCENDING SIGN OF TWO VAGAS IS SAME . THEN THIS IS CALLED VAGA-VARGOTTAMA.    This varga gives yoga results , when Lagna is aspected by more than one planet . 3Similarly ,THIS ALSO GIVES YOGA RESULTS IF MORE THAN ONE PLANET ASPECTS VAGOTTAMA  MOON LAGNA. THE DICTUM  EXPLAINED IN SL. 2 AND 3 ABOVE MAY BE REFEREED TO CH -14 SLOKA -6 0F LAGHU JATAK BY VARHA MIHIRA 4.Bhava Vargottama : Kindly refer ch-2 -Navamsa literature Terminology- in the above referred book by Mr. Patel  Page 20-sl14 ; "'BHAVOTTAMA MEANS A PLANET IN SAME HOUSE IN RASI AND NAVAMSA CHART: It enhances the good results of the house occupied." Mr. Patel further says;research on this point is necessary' I discussed this subject two times with Mr. Patel during my visit to Mumbai during his life time. The result of my discussions  was ultimately transformed the article 'CONCEPT OF VARGOTTAMA' PRASAN MARGA SAYS THAT YOGA IS FORMED IN 7 WAYS. Out of these two ways are a) Sign is same in LAGNA IN ONE OR MORE VARGAS ,B)SIMILARLY A  PLANET IS IN ONE OR MORE VARGA IN SAME HOUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF SIGN. THIS OPENS UP TWO POSSIBILITIES A) Moon in the Lagna in one or more vargas irrespective of sign ,It will give yoga results if aspected by more than one planet.. B) Any planet is in same bhava in more than one Varga. It will give yoga results ,if aspected by planet more the better. Kindly go through my article at-least once sincerely, and then give constructive suggestions. It will go a long way to open new horizon in predictive astrology. Some of the members start reacting with out giving due consideration. and react instinctively for the sake of only writing and imposing themselves. This does not help the cause of astrology. Some persons are well read and intelligent. Unfortunately they do not have either humility or most importantly wisdom. Let God grant them some wisdom. Regards,  G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 26 April, 2008 3:50:50 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Vargootama - Goel Ji Namaste Goel ji Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) being in Vargottama. If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics are twisted. Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as mentioned by sages. You are free to hold your personal opionion. Regards Pradeep Check out the all-new face of India. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008  Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Jup-Mars was quite bad for me - followed by jup-rahu which was worst. No, I had never any financial losses connected to women or travelling. In fact in my opinion parivartana between mars & mer is good. In D1 mer is exaulted & mer subs are always excellent for me till now. I am an engineering consultant Best regards Dasgupta sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal GendarzWednesday, April 30, 2008 1:58 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Bhava Vargottama kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Dasgupta , NamaskarYou mean in Mangal-dasas?Its due to parivartana with Budha in D9. It can give career and financial losses connected to women/travelling.Mangal is also near debilitation (Gemini sign - close to cancer) as 2 and L's from AL - so it causes Pravraja (jaimini).You have pretty spiritual chart. You have prominent Guru in D1, D9, D10; Were you working as a teacher/lawyer/consultant?Vargottam is only positive for strong/auspicious planets otherwise it causes afflictions to name and health.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comjk.dasgupta napisał(a):  Respected Goyalji, Namaste. How are you? I was following your virgottama discussions with interest. Here you are telling that virgottama planets will give auspicious results. Mars is virgottama in my chart, in same sign in D1, D2(Jn), D2(Kn),D3(Jn) , D9. But it never gives me any auspicious result. Is it because mars is my badhakesha, involved in 3-curses. I am attaching my chart. I am yet to understand a suitable remedy for the same. Mainly it affects my finance durings it's subdasas. Best regards Dasgupta sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Gopal GoelTuesday, April 29, 2008 11:41 PMancient_indian_ astrologyCc: vedic astrology; Ramadas Rao; Sanjay Rath; sohamsa Re: Bhava Vargottama Dear Mr. Pradeep ad other Friends, Vargottama can be divided in following categories: 1 Most common is when a planet is in same sign in two vargas. If planet is in sign vargottama in D-1 and either D-9 ,or D-3 or D-12 becomes very auspicious.One can refer Ch-3 of of 'Navansa in Astrology by C.S.Patel. 2. ASCENDING SIGN OF TWO VAGAS IS SAME . THEN THIS IS CALLED VAGA-VARGOTTAMA. This varga gives yoga results , when Lagna is aspected by more than one planet . 3Similarly ,THIS ALSO GIVES YOGA RESULTS IF MORE THAN ONE PLANET ASPECTS VAGOTTAMA MOON LAGNA. THE DICTUM EXPLAINED IN SL. 2 AND 3 ABOVE MAY BE REFEREED TO CH -14 SLOKA -6 0F LAGHU JATAK BY VARHA MIHIRA 4.Bhava Vargottama : Kindly refer ch-2 -Navamsa literature Terminology- in the above referred book by Mr. Patel Page 20-sl14 ; "'BHAVOTTAMA MEANS A PLANET IN SAME HOUSE IN RASI AND NAVAMSA CHART: It enhances the good results of the house occupied." Mr. Patel further says;research on this point is necessary' I discussed this subject two times with Mr. Patel during my visit to Mumbai during his life time. The result of my discussions was ultimately transformed the article 'CONCEPT OF VARGOTTAMA' PRASAN MARGA SAYS THAT YOGA IS FORMED IN 7 WAYS. Out of these two ways are a) Sign is same in LAGNA IN ONE OR MORE VARGAS ,B)SIMILARLY A PLANET IS IN ONE OR MORE VARGA IN SAME HOUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF SIGN. THIS OPENS UP TWO POSSIBILITIES A) Moon in the Lagna in one or more vargas irrespective of sign ,It will give yoga results if aspected by more than one planet.. B) Any planet is in same bhava in more than one Varga. It will give yoga results ,if aspected by planet more the better. Kindly go through my article at-least once sincerely, and then give constructive suggestions. It will go a long way to open new horizon in predictive astrology. Some of the members start reacting with out giving due consideration. and react instinctively for the sake of only writing and imposing themselves. This does not help the cause of astrology. Some persons are well read and intelligent. Unfortunately they do not have either humility or most importantly wisdom. Let God grant them some wisdom. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 26 April, 2008 3:50:50 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Vargootama - Goel Ji Namaste Goel jiClassics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) being in Vargottama.If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama.The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics are twisted.Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as mentioned by sages.You are free to hold your personal opionion.RegardsPradeep Check out the all-new face of India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Om Gurave Namaha Dear Goelji, I will grateful if you could post an electronic copy of your Vargottama article. Many thanks Best Sharat sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Pradeep ad other Friends, > Vargottama can be divided in following categories: > 1 Most common is when a planet is in same sign in two vargas.. If planet is in sign vargottama >  in D-1 and either D-9 ,or D-3 or D-12 becomes very auspicious.One can refer Ch-3 of of 'Navansa in Astrology > by C.S.Patel. > 2. ASCENDING SIGN OF TWO VAGAS IS SAME . THEN THIS IS CALLED VAGA- VARGOTTAMA. >    This varga gives yoga results , when Lagna is aspected by more than one planet . > 3Similarly ,THIS ALSO GIVES YOGA RESULTS IF MORE THAN ONE PLANET ASPECTS VAGOTTAMA  MOON LAGNA. > THE DICTUM  EXPLAINED IN SL.. 2 AND 3 ABOVE MAY BE REFEREED TO CH -14 SLOKA -6 0F LAGHU > JATAK BY VARHA MIHIRA > 4.Bhava Vargottama : Kindly refer ch-2 -Navamsa literature Terminology-in the above referred book by Mr. Patel >  Page 20-sl14 ; > " 'BHAVOTTAMA MEANS A PLANET IN SAME HOUSE IN RASI AND NAVAMSA CHART: > It enhances the good results of the house occupied. " > Mr. Patel further says;research on this point is necessary' > I discussed this subject two times with Mr. Patel during my visit to Mumbai during his life time. > The result of my discussions  was ultimately transformed the article 'CONCEPT OF VARGOTTAMA' > PRASAN MARGA SAYS THAT YOGA IS FORMED IN 7 WAYS. Out of these two ways are a) Sign is same in LAGNA > IN ONE OR MORE VARGAS ,B)SIMILARLY A  PLANET IS IN ONE OR MORE VARGA IN SAME HOUSE IRRESPECTIVE OF SIGN. > THIS OPENS UP TWO POSSIBILITIES > A) Moon in the Lagna in one or more vargas irrespective of sign ,It will give yoga results if aspected by more than one planet. > B) Any planet is in same bhava in more than one Varga. It will give yoga results ,if aspected by planet more the better. > Kindly go through my article at-least once sincerely, and then give constructive suggestions. It will go a long way to open new horizon in predictive > astrology. Some of the members start reacting with out giving due consideration.and react instinctively for the sake of only writing and imposing themselves. > This does not help the cause of astrology. > Some persons are well read and intelligent.Unfortunately they do not have either humility or most importantly wisdom. > Let God grant them some wisdom. > Regards, >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > > Saturday, 26 April, 2008 3:50:50 PM > Re: Vargootama - Goel Ji > > > Namaste Goel ji > > Classics have only spoken about a planet or Lagna(rising degree) > being in Vargottama. > > If we study the ganita part of astrology and divisions, or the > paramanas one can never speak of Bhava Vargottama. > > The reason is simple.Check the following instance - Take any chart > with Lagna in Vargottama.You will find that all the ''bhavas'' are in > Vargottama in those charts.Thus one can say Lagna is Vargottama.Rest > is redundant.Amshas are not for bhavas.It is sad to note how basics > are twisted. > > Thus there are no such Vargottamas as per my understanding and as > mentioned by sages. > > You are free to hold your personal opionion. > > Regards > Pradeep > > > > > Check out the all-new face of India. Go to http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Mr. Goel, The gems of knowledge that you continue to provide for so many of us are well and truly appreciated, please, don’t stop. It is unfortunate, but necessary for there to be people who are either unable or unwilling to open their minds to new information. Such is life. Just know in your heart, there are many people enjoying and learning from what you offer, and may the other people do as they will. Sincerely, Phyllis Chubb sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel April 30, 2008 10:57 AM vijayadas_pradeep Cc: vedic astrology ; ancient indian astrology; sohamsa Bhava Vargottama Dear Mr. Pradeep, Some active members are thinking that , I may trying to impose my views. This is far from truth. Some studies are being done with the help of my associates , and results of such efforts are for the scrutiny of all our group members. I there fore earnestly request you to go through both the articles on Vargas , only then there can be a base for further and fruitful discussions. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 om gurave namah Dear Goel ji I second that from the perspective of fresh thinking and commend you on the fine work done. We are carrying the detailed article in the jyotish digest and will do so for all the vargas as and when we receive them from you. I believe that a new era is starting for Jyotish with all the efforts we have all put into it and new thinking and research is most welcome. I am also grteful at the scholarly approach you have taken to this subject. With Warm Regards, Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India www.srath.com,www.sohamsa.com, www..org, www.sagittariuspublications.com Jaimini Scholar: www.sohamsa.com/js/ PS. Good to hear you Phyllis. Phyllis Chubb [phyllischubb] 02 May 2008 01:36 sohamsa RE: Bhava Vargottama Dear Mr. Goel, The gems of knowledge that you continue to provide for so many of us are well and truly appreciated, please, don’t stop. It is unfortunate, but necessary for there to be people who are either unable or unwilling to open their minds to new information. Such is life. Just know in your heart, there are many people enjoying and learning from what you offer, and may the other people do as they will. Sincerely, Phyllis Chubb sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel April 30, 2008 10:57 AM vijayadas_pradeep Cc: vedic astrology ; ancient indian astrology; sohamsa Bhava Vargottama Dear Mr. Pradeep, Some active members are thinking that , I may trying to impose my views. This is far from truth. Some studies are being done with the help of my associates , and results of such efforts are for the scrutiny of all our group members. I there fore earnestly request you to go through both the articles on Vargas , only then there can be a base for further and fruitful discussions. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Dear Mr.G.K.Goel , Hope all is well.... I would appreciate a copy of your document on ' Bhava Vargottama ' Mercury my Lagna lord remains in first house in Rashi and all the divisional charts.....I am trying to figure out what it indicates .... Regards Atul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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