Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Dear Bhagavati ji, Thanks for revealing the reality. It is clear that the results for Aswini 1st pada quoted by me in message number #19363 is not correct, or even near to correct for this horoscope. From this two things gets reveled - 1) The results for Aswini 1st pada given in texts (and Nakshatras in general) are weak and non-dependable. 2) My interpretation capabilities based on Nakshatra alone is weak and non-dependable. Both of them seems to be good bit of info. //His speech made him popular, particularly with the opposite sex and also paved the way for his career, WHICH HE CHOSE AT THE AGE OF FIVE// Is that dance? With Venus in 7th from Lagna this could be a possibility. Now coming to other results you provided I will make it an occasion to verify the usefullness (and dependability of) one of the Nakshatra based prediction techniques used - i.e. Nakshatra pada based dasa system. I am listing the Nakshatras with planets below - Sl Janma Karma Adhana Lord Dasa Period 1 Aswi (Mo – Ra) Magh Mool Ke 4 2 Bhar (Su-Me) PPha PSha Ve 4 3 Krit UPha USha Su 4 4 Rohi Hast (Ma) Srav Mo 4 5 Mrig (Ve) Chit Dhan Ma 4 6 Thir Swat (Ke) Sata Ra 4 7 Puna Visa PBha (Asc) Ju 4 8 Push (Ju) Anur UBha (Sa) Sa 4 9 Asle Jyes Reva Me 4 Sl Janma Karma Adhana Lord Dasa Period Every Nakshatra giving 4 years of Dasa period, Nakshatras up to Aslesha indicates the dasas that ran till 36 years. Magha to Jyeshta indicate the dasas till 72 years, Mool to Rev indicate the dasa till 108 years. ==> > The native was born hale and healthy. The second son in the family, third child of a family of five. They say, gandanta born child affects father. Here, father made a huge success in career after he was born, so he was treated as a prince. He had absolutely no health problems all through his venus dasha. <== As per this system, till 4 years it was Ketu dasa of Aswini Nakshatra. Moon and Rahu placed in Aswini Nakshatra and the dasa lord Ke placed in the Nakshatra of Rahu. It can be assumed that, Moon being the Kshemakrit Nakshatra lord and Rahu being the Sadhaka nakshatra lord, those two planets placed in Janma tara should give benefic results. Is this logical or not? Or will be expect bad results caused by Ra and Ke during this period? ==> > His Sun mahadasha age 26-32 gave him many hospital visits, it was not for any major illness but he had a severe attack of jaundice that time. But gave him populariy in his profession <== As per the above system from 24 to 28 it was Punarvasu Jupiter dasa and from 28 to 32 it was the Pushya Saturn's dasa. Jupiter is the Vadha (Destruction/Death) Nakshatra lord and is placed Saturn's nakshatra. Being the dasa of Vadha tara this period is not supposed to give good results, even though that of Jupiter, during 24 to 28 years. From 28 to 32 years it is the dasa of the Mitra Nakshatra lord Saturn (lord of Pushya Nakshatra). Saturn is placed in its own Nakshatra and is benefited with the presence of natural benefic Jupiter present in the same nakshatra triad. This indicate that the the period from 28 to 32 years should be beneficial. Is this approach logical or is it that we will expect bad results during this Saturn's dasa since 7th lord is presnt in that Nakshatra triad? ==> > Bhaskarji mentioned about speech- well, he has oratorial skills.(so obviously his speech is perfect) Right from the age of 5 he was on stage, all through his school and college life for acting, elocution, debates etc. He could make his own story and was always circled by children older than him. His speech made him popular, particularly with the opposite sex and also paved the way for his career, WHICH HE CHOSE AT THE AGE OF FIVE <== At the age of FIVE, for him as per the above system, the dasa of Bharani Nakshtra lord Venus was running. Venus is placed in the Nakshatra of Mars. Bharani nakshata is blessed with the presence of the Nipuna yoga of Sun and Mercury. Venus can indicate dance and all the fine arts and Su-Me combination can indicate excellence. Is it logical and ok to understand it in this way? ==> > Interstingly, Gandanta mind works in a different way, there are many who are very close to his profession, I am waiting to hear about a particular word attached to his profession. He is well distinguished in his profession, also rich and lover of gold chains and rings, has a lavish lifestyle, like what Dhananjayanji quoted from Brihat jataka > > His moon dasha made him highly charitable. He has educated atleast 2 poor children all through their college. They treat him like a father. He himself got married and has a son late in life, in moon dasha only (arranged marriage) <== During the Vimsottari Dasa period from 32 to 42 years, as per the above system, the 4 year each dasa periods of Prama maitra lord Me, Janma Nakshatra lord Ke, and Sampat Nakshatra lord Ve (together 4 x 3 = 12 years) was running for him. All beneficial periods as already explained above. If the above system is applicable in the marriage time determination as well then the native must have got married during his 4 year Purva Phalguni Nakshatra Venus dasa period that ran from 38 years to 42 years. Dear Bhagavati ji, can you confirm - is that right or wrong? Exactly at what age did the marriage took place? Any way, the point is - here is a tool for judging the Nakshatra chakra based on Planetary placement in Nakshatras. How much useful it is, how much dependable or non-dependable it is, you all decide. Note: Any way, I am of the opinion that the 'traditional janma nakshatra phala' given in astro classics are weak and non-dependable as a whole. Innovative techniques as the one given above may help to improve the result derivation approach a bit, but its excellence remains questionable. Much experimenting is required before accepting or rejecting such a system - that could turned out to be useful and dependable or just another trash; You decide. Love and regards, Sreenadh , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji and all, > > The discussion is "Janma nakshatra phala". The moment someone sees Ashwini-1 gandanata born, normally people think from gandanta aspect only > > //since for someone born in Aswini 1st pada (Gandanta pada) the malefic result will materialize (death/accedent etc) at the age of 16 for him. So I would like to verify from Bhagavati ji, whether any such thing (i.e. accident etc to the native) was reported for the said native at that age.// > > The native was born hale and healthy. The second son in the family, third child of a family of five. They say, gandanta born child affects father. Here, father made a huge success in career after he was born, so he was treated as a prince. He had absolutely no health problems all through his venus dasha. > > His Sun mahadasha age 26-32 gave him many hospital visits, it was not for any major illness but he had a severe attack of jaundice that time. But gave him populariy in his profession > > His moon dasha started with a fatal surgery following a slip-disc, he met with couple of accidents in his moon dasha, nothing happened to him but the car was damaged. He stopped driving altogether and hired a driver > > Bhaskarji mentioned about speech- well, he has oratorial skills.(so obviously his speech is perfect) Right from the age of 5 he was on stage, all through his school and college life for acting, elocution, debates etc. He could make his own story and was always circled by children older than him. His speech made him popular, particularly with the opposite sex and also paved the way for his career, WHICH HE CHOSE AT THE AGE OF FIVE > > Interstingly, Gandanta mind works in a different way, there are many who are very close to his profession, I am waiting to hear about a particular word attached to his profession. He is well distinguished in his profession, also rich and lover of gold chains and rings, has a lavish lifestyle, like what Dhananjayanji quoted from Brihat jataka > > His moon dasha made him highly charitable. He has educated atleast 2 poor children all through their college. They treat him like a father. He himself got married and has a son late in life, in moon dasha only (arranged marriage) > > > This is an intersting chart indeed with lot of things, linked to Ashwini nakshatra and yet hidden. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, This is a very educative analysis indeed. I need to go through what you have written, in couples of days time, when I will be free from routine work. Just for your information, he got married on Nov 11, 2001, at the age of 34 Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Der Bhagavati ji, //he got married on Nov 11, 2001, at the age of 34 // From the age 32 to 44 years (during the Vimsottari Dasa period from 32 to 42 years), as per the above system, the 4 year each dasa periods of Prama maitra lord Me, Janma Nakshatra lord Ke, and Sampat Nakshatra lord Ve (together 4 x 3 = 12 years) was running for him. All beneficial periods as already explained above. From 32 to 36 years it was the dasa of the Parama maitra (Good friend) Aslesha Nakshatra lord Mercury. Mercury is placed in Sampat (Wealth) nakshatra, in the Nakshtra of Venus (in Bharani Nakshatra). Yes, possible. The Prama maitra, Sampat, Venus connections all indicate good results during this period, as per the above system as well.Note 1: If anyone is interested to know the Exaltation-Debilitation of Planets in Nakshatras, the a such a table is given below. Let us try using the same as well, in efforts to predict with Nakshatra alone. 1 Aswi (Su – Ex) Magh Mool Janma (Birth) Ke 2 Bhar (Sa – Deb) PPha PSha Sampat (Wealth) Ve 3 Krit UPha USha (Ju – Deb) Vipat (Danger) Su 4 Rohi (Mo – Ex) Hast (Me – Ex) Srav (Ma – Ex) Kshemakrit (Wellbeing) Mo 5 Mrig Chit (Ve – Deb) Dhan Pratyara (Obstacles) Ma 6 Thir Swat (Su – Deb; Sa – Ex) Sata Sadhaka (Achievements) Ra 7 Puna (Ju – Ex) Visa (Mo – Deb) PBha Vadha (Destruction) Ju 8 Push (Ma – Deb) Anur UBha (Me – Deb) Maitra (Friend) Sa 9 Asle Jyes Reva (Ve – Ex) Param Maitra (Good Friend) Me Note 2: I am also just trying to learn, systematize and apply the Nakshatra Chakra based system. So I may commit numerous mistakes as well. But the whole exercise as a whole would be much beneficial in improving our understanding about Nakshatra chkra and its application. Let us learn together and improve ourselves.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> > This is a very educative analysis indeed. I need to go through what you have written, in couples of days time, when I will be free from routine work. Just for your information, he got married on Nov 11, 2001, at the age of 34 > > Regards,> bhagavathi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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