Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Forward- from Jyotish Group Vinay Jha wrote -// A true history is indespensable for a true identity. We know a person onlythrough learning his / her history. //We know the true history of what we are into. for those who do not know this, we are not responsible and liable to spend our Life times to make them understand.// Those who are spreading false propaganda against Vedic Jyotisha have some designs for future which we must counter.//We are not God to counter all the evil in the world. Only those who are getting salaries for doing nothing can spend time on all this rubbish. Everybody is countering the untruths in his own way individually. does not mean that he will join with you.// Predictive abilities are enhanced not by a mere recitation of predictive formulae, but by strict adherence to truth in all walks of life.//Do not try to gauge or detrmine who is adhering how much into truth. Recitation is being done by you, and your advisors. First become a student, pass the exams, and then become a Teacher.// A vedic astrologer must never think of his/her Daal-roti. If he/she cannot know his/her own future, how can he/she know others' ? //How do you know whether one knows his or her future or not ? Who are you to etermine this ? If a Vedic astrologer must never think of his /Her Daal Roti, then who will give this to him every afternoon and night ? Your goodself ? Or should he go begging ?//To be more strict and precise,one who earns a penny out of Jyotisha / chikitsaa / yajna / poojaa is a chaandaala according to Manusmriti, because these things are for amelioration of conditions of the afflicted people. //You mean all astrologers are chandala ?.You mean all Doctors are Chandala ?You mean all Pundits are Vhandala ?Have you told your family Doctor this when you paid him money for treatment of your ownself or your childen or your family members , that he is a Chandala ?Did you tell the Pandit who got you married and took money from your father in law for doing the marriage rituals, that he is a Chandala ?// There are numerous other professions for Daal-roti. In Kaliyuga, majority of astrologers will not accept such a view, but this majority will be wiped out at the end of Kaliyuga. //Please show me some professions for Daal roti and also for the thousands unemployed in India. How do you knwo that Kali Yuga has not already ended ? Or do you think that kaliyuga charan will last for 432000 years?// I hoped Mr AK Kaul will show his intellectual prowess by discussing the date of Vedanga Jyotisha. But Bhaskar Jee thinks such an exercize is futile.. Mr Kaul must feel relieved. //Do not try to pit me against Mr.Kaul. I have already given him a set of queries which he could not answer, long back. yes discussing the date of vedanga Jyotisha is actually futile. That is our job, the jyotishis job and not your job. You have neither proved yourself as having knowledge in astrology, and neither proved to know anything on astronomy. Do not show us your degrees inastronomy or astrology from small unknown and unrecognised places. Anybody can get these by paying little money. If you knew at least something you would have spoken about predictive astrology and not all this nonsensical talks.Now leave me alone. I am not getting free salaries or free grants for doing nothing, by making a fool of people.Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 According to Shri Vinay Jha, all astrologers who earn a penny from astrology, all Pundits who earn a penny by doing poojas, Yagnas, all Doctors who are doing chikitsa, are " Chandalas " . What a waste of the education which he proffesses to have. I always thought that he has some knowledge, but whenever I think so, everytime he proves me wrong by his utterances. And he says that all such astrologers who take a penny will be wiped out by the end of kaliyuga. It seems that he has the divine sight to look into the future and tell us what he can see. He has still not been able to tell us from where must vedic astrologers be earning their daily bread and butter if not from what knowledge we have. I do not understand why he has got so much spare time to indulge in all this nonsensical discussions, which is neither sharing, learning, relating some experience, or teaching. he must go to those groups which deal with the subjects in which he is good at. It must be either astrology or astronomy, which apparently I find none of those fit the bill, so what is he good at, if someone can tell us then we can guide him to the proper groups where he can teach, advise and feed his Ego which is bloating without any proper ingredient like Oxygen but just Co2. He is to be awarded a prize for helping the likes of Kaul and Sanat with the hand of a Big CEO of a Jyotish group on his back.. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Namaste Bhaskar ji, Let us for a while ignore members posting such messages - i.e. proponents of - " All astro services should be free " . I think they are paid to keep you and me busy with their deliberate remarks and commentaries i.e. they derive sadistic pleasure ....... In earlier days, Rishis and Sages were served by Kings of respective regions, so they repaid through their advices. Morever all such proponents of Socialist Astrology should first understand the Karma Theory - which clearly states any favor done to anyone seeking is in the cycle of debt and he should one day repay it. We all know the value of free advices....!! Rarely gets its valued attention !! You know how the free reading requesters get free astro advices from many people and then again lost which remedy to follow.... i.e. caught in web of advices...then later ensure or create a Tournament of Astro_WWF - to fight among themselves..... while they enjoy it from gallery eating pop-corn !! Mr. Vinay may not given any free services yet, ....so he is free to talk & speak his mind... till he gets the reality BITES....!! I think it is time for you & Mr. Sunil Nair to get back to your lifelong friend i.e. Lunatic Owner of a and get into friendly mode once again and direct him on Mr. Vinay & his like minded group.... = to tire them with his astro_consultancy requests on his prospective " garal phrends " ........other queries which you know better.... Then Mr. Vinay & his like minded group ... will immediately change their mind...on socialist astrology subject..... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Namaste Sreeram ji, That was great Humour. Enjoyed every bit of it. I want to get 3 of them together, the Lunatic Owner , The Ceo , and this gentleman who is acting like Nostradamus (All astrologers would be finished by Kaliyuga end ? Huh .) They can make a good mix. If the CEO manages to influence them , then they will dance to his tune in the Group he moderates, like the other astros there are doing and he would have more of Bhaskars opposition members as his friends and would add to this Group which he keeps on collecting and increasing by keeping a close watch on my activities, though he denies so. Thus his inflated Ego would bloat more. If the Lunatic manages to influence them , then they too will be benefiited by great visions of The Mother, Sai baba and god knows what more. They will also become a part of history who can cure the Tibetans, cancer and also other countries of their ills, except india of course, where their powers do not work. If not this then they will give each other company in Ranchi. If this Clone of Nostradamus manages to influence these two, then they too would become completely confused and would loose their objectives if any in Life, out of sight. They would neither remain an astrologer, or a astronomer or a Con Holy man , but hover in mid space. I am not sure whether he sees Mother in them in the day time or what at night, but his prospective garal phrends would if sensible, keep away from this screw loose, psychopath who is perverted to the core from every cell of his being stained with corrupted knowledge used only to impress, hoodwink, dupe, trick and decieve poor innocent vulnerable suffering persons and soft targets, who may fall in his trap. Love and regards , bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Dear Srinivas ji, Ha Ha.... I enjoyed your mail.... :=) Especially the lines below -//We all know the value of free advices....!! Rarely gets its valued attention !! You know how the free reading requesters get free astro advices from many people and then again lost which remedy to follow.... i.e. caught in web of advices...then later ensure or create a Tournament of Astro_WWF - to fight among themselves..... while they enjoy it from gallery eating pop-corn !!// Ha Ha ... Well Said! The current state of 'other' astrology groups. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Namaste Bhaskar ji,> > Let us for a while ignore members posting such messages - i.e.> proponents of - "All astro services should be free".> > I think they are paid to keep you and me busy with their deliberate> remarks and commentaries i.e. they derive sadistic pleasure .......> > In earlier days, Rishis and Sages were served by Kings of respective> regions, so they repaid through their advices.> > Morever all such proponents of Socialist Astrology should first> understand the Karma Theory - which clearly states any favor done to> anyone seeking is in the cycle of debt and he should one day repay it.> > We all know the value of free advices....!! Rarely gets its valued> attention !! You know how the free reading requesters get free astro> advices from many people and then again lost which remedy to follow....> i.e. caught in web of advices...then later ensure or create a Tournament> of Astro_WWF - to fight among themselves..... while they enjoy it from> gallery eating pop-corn !!> > Mr. Vinay may not given any free services yet, ....so he is free to talk> & speak his mind... till he gets the reality BITES....!!> > I think it is time for you & Mr. Sunil Nair to get back to your lifelong> friend i.e. Lunatic Owner of a and get into friendly mode> once again and direct him on Mr. Vinay & his like minded group.... = to> tire them with his astro_consultancy requests on his prospective "garal> phrends"........other queries which you know better....> > Then Mr. Vinay & his like minded group ... will immediately change their> mind...on socialist astrology subject.....> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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