Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Dear Dhananjayan ji, If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed" - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages] This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions. Hope this helps. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > Stanza 9: > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > sincerely,> Dhananjayan,> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Respected Sreenadh, Thanks for the information. If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM Dear Dhananjayan ji, If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed" - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages] This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions. Hope this helps.Love and regards,Sreenadh , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > Stanza 9: > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > sincerely,> Dhananjayan,> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Pranams, Thanks for your advices,as you say I shall not give paramount importance to nakshtra factor except in elective Astrology as Visaka is an adhO-mukha nakshtra.Besides being an Astrologer for many years seen humpteen number of horoscopes besides I have experiences with my brother-in-law who was born on 18th November 1971 @ 2.18 AM in [T.Z.5.30] 75 E50 - 11N 08. Regards, Dhananjayan. --- On Wed, 25/3/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 6:40 PM Dear Dhananjayan ji, If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to " Nakshatras " (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to " Nakshatra " (Nakshatra Phala) * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on " Own experience " and " Recent results observed " - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use " Nakshatra Phala " attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/ predictions. [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages] This does not mean that we should totally discard the " Nakshatra Phala " given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions. Hope this helps. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote: > > Pranams, > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > Stanza 9: > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money. > > sincerely, > Dhananjayan, > Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 dear kursija ji sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas due to various reasons and one reason he explained atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras ( where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are indicating our karma phala ) hope i am clear rgrds sunil nair there is other kinds of dasas too which is independent of nakshtras , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh,> Thanks for the information.> If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed"> > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions.> Hope this helps.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > Stanza 9: > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > > sincerely,> > Dhananjayan,> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Respected Sunil Nair ji, Thanks for the prompt reply. But I am sorry to say that I am not able to understand the difference between Nakshtra and Nakshtra phalas. When we say nakshtra, immediately significations of the nakshtra comes to our mind. It is nakshtra phalas. No doubt the strength of the Moon, paksha bala, sthan balas etc are to be seen for the results. But nakshtra is to play its role. According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting glass. Please help. Warm regards--- On Wed, 3/25/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:00 PM dear kursija ji sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas due to various reasons and one reason he explained atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras ( where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are indicating our karma phala ) hope i am clear rgrds sunil nair there is other kinds of dasas too which is independent of nakshtras , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh,> Thanks for the information.> If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed"> > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions.> Hope this helps.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > Stanza 9: > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > > sincerely,> > Dhananjayan,> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 //According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting glass. Please help. // I agree here with Shri Kursija ji. Maybe they mean that we must not give much credence to the phala of the nakshatra results given in the texts, when a child is born under a particular nakshatra. regards/Bhaskar. , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Respected Sunil Nair ji, > Thanks for the prompt reply. But I am sorry to say that I am not able to understand the difference between Nakshtra and Nakshtra phalas. When we say nakshtra, immediately significations of the nakshtra comes to our mind. It is nakshtra phalas. No doubt the strength of the Moon, paksha bala, sthan balas etc are to be seen for the results. But nakshtra is to play its role. According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting glass. Please help. > Warm regards > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:00 PM > > > > > > > dear kursija ji > > sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas due to various reasons and one reason he explained > > atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras ( where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are indicating our karma phala ) > > hope i am clear > > rgrds sunil nair > > there is other kinds of dasas too which is independent of nakshtras > > , " S.C. Kursija " sckursija@ wrote: > > > > Respected Sreenadh, > > Thanks for the information. > > If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify. > > > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) > > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to " Nakshatras " (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to " Nakshatra " (Nakshatra Phala) > > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on " Own experience " and " Recent results observed " > > > > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use " Nakshatra Phala " attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. > > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages] > > This does not mean that we should totally discard the " Nakshatra Phala " given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions. > > Hope this helps. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > , Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote: > > > > > > Pranams, > > > > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira > > > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > > Stanza 9: > > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Dhananjayan, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 hare ramakrishna dear kursija ji and bhaskar ji sure i was thinking abt janma Nakshatra phala ( the degree of moon at birth ) while answering it than nakshtra divions or more finer divisions where a planet is in or transitting in a birth chart ( it is all mathematical representation of time than a viscible reality and we r trying to get the pulse of time or kala the person is born with tho time is immeasurable and has no begining or end )many times i use cell phone to answer mails and so i dont read full thread and sorry for inconvenience nakshtra and its finer divions ( upto 249 ) is what is devlped as KP astrology and it is explained in some Nadi texts also ,so it can b succesfully used ( it is my opinion ) hope i am clear rgrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > //According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which> they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting> glass. Please help. //> > I agree here with Shri Kursija ji.> > Maybe they mean that we must not give much credence to the phala of the> nakshatra results given in the texts, when a child is born under a> particular nakshatra.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , "S.C. Kursija"> sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sunil Nair ji,> > Thanks for the prompt reply. But I am sorry to say that I am not able> to understand the difference between Nakshtra and Nakshtra phalas. When> we say nakshtra, immediately significations of the nakshtra comes to our> mind. It is nakshtra phalas. No doubt the strength of the Moon, paksha> bala, sthan balas etc are to be seen for the results. But nakshtra is to> play its role. According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of> nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets> are only reflecting glass. Please help.> > Warm regards> >> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not> Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:00 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > dear kursija ji> >> > sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas> due to various reasons and one reason he explained> >> > atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some> conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana> bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as> dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras (> where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are> indicating our karma phala )> >> > hope i am clear> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > there is other kinds of dasas too which is independent of nakshtras> >> > , "S.C. Kursija"> sckursija@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Sreenadh,> > > Thanks for the information.> > > If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position> of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra> and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis?> are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > >> > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not> Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > > > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Dhananjayan ji,> > > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't> depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in> ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon,> these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this -> > > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results> attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala)> > > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own> experience" and "Recent results observed"> > >> > > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This> is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever> tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in> astrological result derivations/predictions.> > > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar> Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> > > This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra> Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among> the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical> astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for> result derivation and predictions.> > > Hope this helps.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , Dhananjayan Brahma> abhanaya@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Pranams,> > > >> > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > > > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya> > > > Stanza 9:> > > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and> quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > >> > > > sincerely,> > > > Dhananjayan,> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Respected Sunir Nair, Thanks for the clarification.--- On Thu, 3/26/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:14 PM hare ramakrishna dear kursija ji and bhaskar ji sure i was thinking abt janma Nakshatra phala ( the degree of moon at birth ) while answering it than nakshtra divions or more finer divisions where a planet is in or transitting in a birth chart ( it is all mathematical representation of time than a viscible reality and we r trying to get the pulse of time or kala the person is born with tho time is immeasurable and has no begining or end )many times i use cell phone to answer mails and so i dont read full thread and sorry for inconvenience nakshtra and its finer divions ( upto 249 ) is what is devlped as KP astrology and it is explained in some Nadi texts also ,so it can b succesfully used ( it is my opinion ) hope i am clear rgrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > //According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which> they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting> glass. Please help. //> > I agree here with Shri Kursija ji.> > Maybe they mean that we must not give much credence to the phala of the> nakshatra results given in the texts, when a child is born under a> particular nakshatra.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , "S.C. Kursija"> sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sunil Nair ji,> > Thanks for the prompt reply. But I am sorry to say that I am not able> to understand the difference between Nakshtra and Nakshtra phalas. When> we say nakshtra, immediately significations of the nakshtra comes to our> mind. It is nakshtra phalas. No doubt the strength of the Moon, paksha> bala, sthan balas etc are to be seen for the results. But nakshtra is to> play its role. According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of> nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets> are only reflecting glass. Please help.> > Warm regards> >> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not> Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:00 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > dear kursija ji> >> > sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas> due to various reasons and one reason he explained> >> > atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some> conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana> bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as> dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras (> where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are> indicating our karma phala )> >> > hope i am clear> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > there is other kinds of dasas too which is independent of nakshtras> >> > , "S.C. Kursija"> sckursija@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Sreenadh,> > > Thanks for the information.> > > If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position> of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra> and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis?> are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > >> > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not> Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > > > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Dhananjayan ji,> > > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't> depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in> ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon,> these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this -> > > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results> attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala)> > > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own> experience" and "Recent results observed"> > >> > > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This> is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever> tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in> astrological result derivations/predictions.> > > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar> Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> > > This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra> Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among> the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical> astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for> result derivation and predictions.> > > Hope this helps.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , Dhananjayan Brahma> abhanaya@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Pranams,> > > >> > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > > > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya> > > > Stanza 9:> > > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and> quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > >> > > > sincerely,> > > > Dhananjayan,> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Kursija ji, I was speaking about birth results (Janma Nakshatra Phala) attributed to Nakshatras and NOT about Moon based Vimsottari Dasa. Certainly Vimsottari Dasa system is dependable, may because of the fact that it depends on the ecliptic based 13.20 equal division of Nakshatras. The Janma Nakshatra phala originated much much earlier and underwent much changes during the thousands of years in the history of astrology, but still to reach a dependable stage - due to the very reason that the result is changing. * Go through the classics providing Contradicting Janma Nakshatra results * Try applying the Janma Nakshatra results given in classics to charts you know Then you will see what I mean. Further If I ask what is the base logic behind deriving those Janma Nakshatra phala results or how to derive further results (for both of which we have clarity in case of Signs) - will it be possible to sincerely answer this question? I know that it is not possible. It is the very reason of the scholars like 'Kaikulangara' advising us that Pannjanga Phala in general and Janma Nakshatra phala in particular is ADRIDHA (weak; non-dependable) for prediction. While comparing the system of deriving Nakshatra phala like this (i.e. quoting some slokas from the classics that give Janmsa Nakshatra phala without providing clue to the base logic used) and by using the system pointed to in "Jataadesa marga" - he prefers to follow the method and guidance given in Jatakadeesa Marga rather than following the near to blind and changing 'Janma Nakshatra Phala'. As far as Moon based Transit is concerned (your 2nd point), I am yet to find any sage quote on transits, and does not find the transit results given in modern text properly getting applied in horoscopes. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh,> Thanks for the information.> If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed"> > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions.> Hope this helps.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > Stanza 9: > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > > sincerely,> > Dhananjayan,> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Respected Sreenadh, Thanks for the clarifications. Regards--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them) Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 9:27 AM Dear Kursija ji, I was speaking about birth results (Janma Nakshatra Phala) attributed to Nakshatras and NOT about Moon based Vimsottari Dasa. Certainly Vimsottari Dasa system is dependable, may because of the fact that it depends on the ecliptic based 13.20 equal division of Nakshatras. The Janma Nakshatra phala originated much much earlier and underwent much changes during the thousands of years in the history of astrology, but still to reach a dependable stage - due to the very reason that the result is changing. * Go through the classics providing Contradicting Janma Nakshatra results * Try applying the Janma Nakshatra results given in classics to charts you know Then you will see what I mean. Further If I ask what is the base logic behind deriving those Janma Nakshatra phala results or how to derive further results (for both of which we have clarity in case of Signs) - will it be possible to sincerely answer this question? I know that it is not possible. It is the very reason of the scholars like 'Kaikulangara' advising us that Pannjanga Phala in general and Janma Nakshatra phala in particular is ADRIDHA (weak; non-dependable) for prediction. While comparing the system of deriving Nakshatra phala like this (i.e. quoting some slokas from the classics that give Janmsa Nakshatra phala without providing clue to the base logic used) and by using the system pointed to in "Jataadesa marga" - he prefers to follow the method and guidance given in Jatakadeesa Marga rather than following the near to blind and changing 'Janma Nakshatra Phala'. As far as Moon based Transit is concerned (your 2nd point), I am yet to find any sage quote on transits, and does not find the transit results given in modern text properly getting applied in horoscopes. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh,> Thanks for the information.> If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed"> > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions.> Hope this helps.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > Stanza 9: > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > > sincerely,> > Dhananjayan,> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, It is very interesting topic,our ancestor were used only Nakshatra for predication not sign and they were perfect on predication.Nakshatra are the base of Astrology and you have said " Not Dependable " on Nakshatra Phala ! Here I am providing you a data of child who born in Gandat,Magha Nakshatra charn-1st.This Magha charan-1st result says that native will be harmful for mother and Maternal relative(Nanihal).We did Nakshatra Pooja after 27 days when same Nakshatr came again.At the time of Pooja heavy rain fall happened where in the month of May at Jodhpur their is no any season of rain fall.After that Pooja native mother suffer medical problem a lot along with stress on maternal side for 10 months.They mother and child have spend that time at Maternal place.After coming back at father's place within few days native's grand mother expired.After that every thing moving smoothly.It is not a true example about Janam-Nakshatra-Phala? Data :- DOB : 24.04.1999 TOB : 09:20 PM POB : Jodhpur (Rajasthan) I hope it will helpful for further conclusion. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kursija ji, > I was speaking about birth results (Janma Nakshatra Phala) attributed > to Nakshatras and NOT about Moon based Vimsottari Dasa. Certainly > Vimsottari Dasa system is dependable, may because of the fact that it > depends on the ecliptic based 13.20 equal division of Nakshatras. The > Janma Nakshatra phala originated much much earlier and underwent much > changes during the thousands of years in the history of astrology, but > still to reach a dependable stage - due to the very reason that the > result is changing. > * Go through the classics providing Contradicting Janma Nakshatra > results > * Try applying the Janma Nakshatra results given in classics to > charts you know > Then you will see what I mean. Further If I ask what is the base > logic behind deriving those Janma Nakshatra phala results or how to > derive further results (for both of which we have clarity in case of > Signs) - will it be possible to sincerely answer this question? I know > that it is not possible. It is the very reason of the scholars like > 'Kaikulangara' advising us that Pannjanga Phala in general and Janma > Nakshatra phala in particular is ADRIDHA (weak; non-dependable) for > prediction. While comparing the system of deriving Nakshatra phala like > this (i.e. quoting some slokas from the classics that give Janmsa > Nakshatra phala without providing clue to the base logic used) and by > using the system pointed to in " Jataadesa marga " - he prefers to follow > the method and guidance given in Jatakadeesa Marga rather than following > the near to blind and changing 'Janma Nakshatra Phala'. > As far as Moon based Transit is concerned (your 2nd point), I am yet > to find any sage quote on transits, and does not find the transit > results given in modern text properly getting applied in horoscopes. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " S.C. Kursija " > <sckursija@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sreenadh, > > Thanks for the information. > > If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of > dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra > and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? > are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify. > > > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not > Dependable - Be careful while using them) > > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend > upon the results attributed to " Nakshatras " (birth stars) in ancient > classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these > results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results > attributed to " Nakshatra " (Nakshatra Phala) > > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on " Own > experience " and " Recent results observed " > > > > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This > is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever > tried to use " Nakshatra Phala " attributed to Birth stars in classics in > astrological result derivations/predictions. > > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar > Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages] > > This does not mean that we should totally discard the " Nakshatra > Phala " given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among > the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical > astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for > result derivation and predictions. > > Hope this helps. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > , Dhananjayan Brahma > abhanaya@ wrote: > > > > > > Pranams, > > > > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira > > > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > > Stanza 9: > > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and > quarrelsome, or maker of money. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Dhananjayan, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Dhananjayan ji, I said the "Janma Nakshatra Phala" is not dependable. Classifications such as "adhO-mukha nakshtra" does not comes under that categories - such classifications are certainly applicable for the specific applications for which they are adviced for. I know you will have clear info on where (for what purpose and contexts) such classifciations are used in classics. I am yet to see any mention that such muhurta classifications being applied to derive "Janma Nakshatra Phala" given in classics.Regards,Sreenadh , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Thanks for your advices,as you say I shall not give paramount importance to nakshtra factor except in elective Astrology as Visaka is an adhO-mukha nakshtra.Besides being an Astrologer for many years seen humpteen number of horoscopes besides I have experiences with my brother-in-law who was born on 18th November 1971 @ 2.18 AM in [T.Z.5.30] 75 E50 - 11N 08.> > Regards,> Dhananjayan.> > --- On Wed, 25/3/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 6:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji,> > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend> upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient> classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results> don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this -> > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results> attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala)> > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own> experience" and "Recent results observed"> > > > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. > This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried> to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in> astrological result derivations/ predictions.> > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century> scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> > This does not mean that we should totally discard the> "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they> are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any> practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for> result derivation and predictions.> > Hope this helps.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> >> > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya> > Stanza 9:> > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> >> > sincerely,> > Dhananjayan,> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your preferred Email name!> Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com.> http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Sunil ji, //sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas due to various reasons and one reason he explained atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras ( where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are indicating our karma phala )// Well Said - Yes, that was one of the points I wanted to point to. Regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sunil Nair ji,> Thanks for the prompt reply. But I am sorry to say that I am not able to understand the difference between Nakshtra and Nakshtra phalas. When we say nakshtra, immediately significations of the nakshtra comes to our mind. It is nakshtra phalas. No doubt the strength of the Moon, paksha bala, sthan balas etc are to be seen for the results. But nakshtra is to play its role. According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting glass. Please help.> Warm regards> > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear kursija ji > > sreemadh ji dont said dont use nakhsatras but dont use nakshtraphalas due to various reasons and one reason he explained > > atleast u know to show full strnght of nakshtras there is some conditions and main condition is paksha bala of moon and other is stana bala and other strnght of moon as moons degree is nakshtras ,where as dasa is diffrnt and moon as mind karaka interacting tru body chakras ( where our previous samskaras are hidden ) is dasas ( and planets are indicating our karma phala ) > > hope i am clear > > rgrds sunil nair > > there is other kinds of dasas too which is independent of nakshtras > > , "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sreenadh,> > Thanks for the information.> > If the results on nakshtra are not dependable, what is the position of dashas depending on nakshtra? How to take guidance of Moon,s nakshtra and position of Moon from the birth Moon and nakdhtra on a daily basis? are the some questions in my mind. Please clarify.> > > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > Re: Nakshatra Phala (Not Dependable - Be careful while using them)> > > > Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji, > > If you are a practical astrologer - I have an advice. Don't depend upon the results attributed to "Nakshatras" (birth stars) in ancient classics. The change of path (lunar path) that happens to Moon, these results don't stay constant and change very much. Due to this - > > * the ancient sages had advised us NOT TO depend on birth results attributed to "Nakshatra" (Nakshatra Phala) > > * to derive own results for birth Nakshatras based on "Own experience" and "Recent results observed"> > > > - so that the results derived would be in tune with reality. This is a fact very well known to all practical astrologers who has ever tried to use "Nakshatra Phala" attributed to Birth stars in classics in astrological result derivations/predictions. > > [The 'Hridyapadha' author and the revered 18th century scholar Kaikulangara has clarified all this clearly quoting the ancient sages]> > This does not mean that we should totally discard the "Nakshatra Phala" given in ancient classics; but to advice that they are one among the LEAST dependable results from the perspective of any practical astrologer who really want to USE astrology on a regular basic for result derivation and predictions.> > Hope this helps.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> > >> > > Pranams,> > > > > > Brihat Jataka by Varahamihira> > > Chapter 16 Rikshasiladhyaya > > > Stanza 9: > > > Visakha-Jealous, avaricious, handsome, clever speaker and quarrelsome, or maker of money.> > > > > > sincerely,> > > Dhananjayan,> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Bhasakr ji and Kursija ji, > //According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which> they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting> glass. Please help. // Yes, Well said! But the point I want to emphasis was that - * Like Kursija ji said Planets reflect the 'nature' of nakshatras in which they are transiting as per its strength. But the question is what 'nature'? The nature of a nakshatra is reflected by - the the lord of the nakshatra, the category in which it is included in (adhomukha-urdhvamukha, deva-asura etc etc), the things the nakshatra signify, the Janmadi division of nakshatra (Janma-sampat-vipat-pratyara etc) and similar things. But if you go through the Janma Nakshatra results given in texts you can easly identify that the "Janma nakshatra phala" given in texts are NOT properly based on the above and similar factors. This is the very reason because of which I say that what Kursija ji states (i.e. the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting glass.) is true 100%, but the "Janma Nakshatra Phala" given in classics are NOT dependable. Hope I am clear on this. //> Maybe they mean that we must not give much credence to the phala of the> nakshatra results given in the texts, when a child is born under a> particular nakshatra.// Yes, that is what me and Sunil ji was pointing to, and that is why used the specific word "Janma Nakshatra Phala" (phala or the nakshatra results given in the texts, when a child is born under a particular nakshatra).Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > //According to me, the planets reflect the phalas of nakshtra in which> they are transiting as per its strength. The planets are only reflecting> glass. Please help. //> > I agree here with Shri Kursija ji.> > Maybe they mean that we must not give much credence to the phala of the> nakshatra results given in the texts, when a child is born under a> particular nakshatra.> > regards/Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Bohra ji, You are getting me wrong. :)//It is very interesting topic,our ancestor were used only Nakshatra for predication not sign and they were perfect on predication.Nakshatra are the base of Astrology and you have said "Not Dependable" on Nakshatra Phala !// I said "Janma Nakshatra Phala" given in classics is treated by many ancient scholars as ADRIDHA (weak; non-dependable), not that "Nakshatra Phala" is non-dependable. Please note the difference. "Nakshatra Phala" can be derived in many ways even if we chose not to use the "Janma Nakshatra Phala" (Birth Nakshatra results) given in classics. The Gandantha Dosha etc you mentioned is one among those other tools used for deriving "Nakshatra Phala" for any native. Hope you see the point I am trying to make. Offcourse there are several dependable classications, Vimsottari Dasa system, Star lord, Janmadi division, Some unique nakshatra chakras etc etc as well. Hope I am clear. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> > It is very interesting topic,our ancestor were used only Nakshatra for predication not sign and they were perfect on predication.Nakshatra are the base of Astrology and you have said "Not Dependable" on Nakshatra Phala !> > Here I am providing you a data of child who born in Gandat,Magha Nakshatra charn-1st.This Magha charan-1st result says that native will be harmful for mother and Maternal relative(Nanihal).We did Nakshatra Pooja after 27 days when same Nakshatr came again.At the time of Pooja heavy rain fall happened where in the month of May at Jodhpur their is no any season of rain fall.After that Pooja native mother suffer medical problem a lot along with stress on maternal side for 10 months.They mother and child have spend that time at Maternal place.After coming back at father's place within few days native's grand mother expired.After that every thing moving smoothly.It is not a true example about Janam-Nakshatra-Phala?> > Data :-> > DOB : 24.04.1999> TOB : 09:20 PM> POB : Jodhpur (Rajasthan)> I hope it will helpful for further conclusion.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, I am very sorry to say that I am not agree with your view of point,others are may be have some similar experiences as you have they may agree. We are not getting the result " as it is " for most of the astrological positions in a chart as text says, that's not mean we not depend on them.We are taking all indication of the text what they says and do analysis a chart then comes to conclusion what are applicable and what extend.Similarly we have to take the result of Birth-Nakshatra Phala and it works. I have Birth-Nakshatra " Purvabhadra " Charan-2nd my Moon is 25:26:10 degree and what ever result says about this, I am getting the same.I am in Pharma business,Educate in maths & Astrology.I have some extend research attitude.I have permanent swelling in ankle of lag due to many time getting bend(Moch).And others specialities which describe for this Janam Nakshatra most of them i have in my character. Then who i can not use the Janam Nakshatra Phala.In my view as we are taking Ascendant sign to describe the basic character and personality characteristics if we include the Janam Nakshatra Phala than we are very near to analyse the chart up to the mark. Other member will share their practical experiences than we can get some other dimension of this topic. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Bohra ji, > You are getting me wrong. > //It is very interesting topic,our ancestor were used only Nakshatra for > predication not sign and they were perfect on predication.Nakshatra are > the base > of Astrology and you have said " Not Dependable " on Nakshatra Phala !// > I said " Janma Nakshatra Phala " given in classics is treated by many > ancient scholars as ADRIDHA (weak; non-dependable), not that " Nakshatra > Phala " is non-dependable. Please note the difference. " Nakshatra > Phala " can be derived in many ways even if we chose not to use the > " Janma Nakshatra Phala " (Birth Nakshatra results) given in classics. > The Gandantha Dosha etc you mentioned is one among those other tools > used for deriving " Nakshatra Phala " for any native. Hope you see the > point I am trying to make. > Offcourse there are several dependable classications, Vimsottari Dasa > system, Star lord, Janmadi division, Some unique nakshatra chakras etc > etc as well. Hope I am clear. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " msbohra62 " > <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > It is very interesting topic,our ancestor were used only Nakshatra > for predication not sign and they were perfect on predication.Nakshatra > are the base of Astrology and you have said " Not Dependable " on > Nakshatra Phala ! > > > > Here I am providing you a data of child who born in Gandat,Magha > Nakshatra charn-1st.This Magha charan-1st result says that native will > be harmful for mother and Maternal relative(Nanihal).We did Nakshatra > Pooja after 27 days when same Nakshatr came again.At the time of Pooja > heavy rain fall happened where in the month of May at Jodhpur their is > no any season of rain fall.After that Pooja native mother suffer medical > problem a lot along with stress on maternal side for 10 months.They > mother and child have spend that time at Maternal place.After coming > back at father's place within few days native's grand mother > expired.After that every thing moving smoothly.It is not a true example > about Janam-Nakshatra-Phala? > > > > Data :- > > > > DOB : 24.04.1999 > > TOB : 09:20 PM > > POB : Jodhpur (Rajasthan) > > I hope it will helpful for further conclusion. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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