Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Hello All, I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier. Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology? As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two. 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies. 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, sisters. But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you trust let you down? Thanks , Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Anita, In my view 1st lord in 12th,native will give all efforts for others. 2nd lord in 12th all family members will be get benefits from the native. My personal reading,which planet occupied in 12th the Karka of the planets get the benefits from the native directly or indirectly. See these in urs friends chart. Thanks, M.S.bohra , " ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Hello All, > I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier. Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology? As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two. > 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies. > 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, sisters. > But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you trust let you down? > Thanks , > Anita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Anita ji, There could be many combinations from which astrologers could derive such a result. One one usual combination they depend upon is - * The Lagna lord going to enemy house and the dasa or antara of the same planet running. This result would be told based on the words given in phaladeepika "Snigthopi tasyati riputwamapnuyal" (even the friends and well wishers will let him down and will become his enemies) Such a result predicted may depend on many factors and (the above being one among the same), and can get modified depending on the planetary positions. Since almost all the results are derived ones, it is difficult to say based on exactly what the said astrologer derived such a result. I may say such a result if I see that the 4th lord or significators of 4th house causing trouble to lagna or lagna lord and has some connection with the 6th lord as well, and for many other similar combinations.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "ash.rsh55" <ash.rsh55 wrote:>> Hello All,> I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier. Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology? As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two.> 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies.> 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, sisters.> But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you trust let you down?> Thanks ,> Anita> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Sreenadh ji, Can 4L in 6H (Scorpio / Mars which is badhak for Leo lagna) also means same thing? But Mars here is exalted and in parivartan with Saturn in 9H (Aries - badhak sthan). This person had fall from grace and left lonely - both at home with family and outside with friends and colleagues. He is known to be a very nice and helpful person - but his own family is split fighting over him and he is thrown out of job twice for no fault of his own. I am intrigued here because there seems to be no link to Ma / Sa at all - all this happened in Ra-Ke antar dasa, Ra is in 7H and Ke is in Lagna along with Moon (12L). - Satya , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Anita ji, > There could be many combinations from which astrologers could derive > such a result. One one usual combination they depend upon is - > * The Lagna lord going to enemy house and the dasa or antara of the > same planet running. This result would be told based on the words given > in phaladeepika " Snigthopi tasyati riputwamapnuyal " (even the friends > and well wishers will let him down and will become his enemies) > Such a result predicted may depend on many factors and (the above > being one among the same), and can get modified depending on the > planetary positions. Since almost all the results are derived ones, it > is difficult to say based on exactly what the said astrologer derived > such a result. > I may say such a result if I see that the 4th lord or significators > of 4th house causing trouble to lagna or lagna lord and has some > connection with the 6th lord as well, and for many other similar > combinations. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " ash.rsh55 " > <ash.rsh55@> wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna > regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / > work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks > will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal > and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let > him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about > this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier. > Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology? > As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two. > > 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies. > > 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that > the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, > sisters. > > But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you > trust let you down? > > Thanks , > > Anita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Satya ji, Leo Lagna; Lagna lord Sun in 6th in Cp along with Mars; Saturn in 9th in Aries; Ke in Leo Lagna and Ra in 7th in Aq - This is what I gather from your words. Here Lagna lord Sun is in 6th and is supposed to give bad results during Sun Dasa. These bad results can also materialize during Ketu dasa or antara since Ke is placed in Leo the sign of Sun. (and Ke is supposed to give the result of its hose lord and the planets it is placed along with). In short Ke (or even Ra - the other part of Ketu) will give the results of Sun placed in 6th house - i.e. 6th house results. Now what are these 6th house results and which are the planets associated with? They are 4th lord Mars in 6th (losing peace of mind, losing friends-land-relatives etc), Lagna lord Sun in 6th (health problems, sadness, police warrants, loss of position etc), 6th lord Saturn in 9th in debilitation (loss of luck, relationship problems with father and elders), 9th lord in 6th (loss of luck) - all indicating bad results! [Ofcourse positive results indicated by malefic in 6th, 9th lord aspecting 9th, 6th lord aspecting 6th, 7th lord in 9th - also will be there. But since as of now we are interested in the qn "why the bad results?" - I am concentrating on the same] So it is just natural that all those results materialized in Ra/Ke; Ra giving the results of Saturn and Ke giving the results of Sun - both connected with Mars in 6th. Note: Considering the indicated combinations alone, the situations will change and positive results should materialize during Ra/Ma. Love and regards, Sreenadh , "vsatya1076" <vsatya1076 wrote:>> Sreenadh ji,> > Can 4L in 6H (Scorpio / Mars which is badhak for Leo lagna) also means same thing? But Mars here is exalted and in parivartan with Saturn in 9H (Aries - badhak sthan). > > This person had fall from grace and left lonely - both at home with family and outside with friends and colleagues. He is known to be a very nice and helpful person - but his own family is split fighting over him and he is thrown out of job twice for no fault of his own. > > I am intrigued here because there seems to be no link to Ma / Sa at all - all this happened in Ra-Ke antar dasa, Ra is in 7H and Ke is in Lagna along with Moon (12L).> > - Satya> > , "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Anita ji,> > There could be many combinations from which astrologers could derive> > such a result. One one usual combination they depend upon is -> > * The Lagna lord going to enemy house and the dasa or antara of the> > same planet running. This result would be told based on the words given> > in phaladeepika "Snigthopi tasyati riputwamapnuyal" (even the friends> > and well wishers will let him down and will become his enemies)> > Such a result predicted may depend on many factors and (the above> > being one among the same), and can get modified depending on the> > planetary positions. Since almost all the results are derived ones, it> > is difficult to say based on exactly what the said astrologer derived> > such a result.> > I may say such a result if I see that the 4th lord or significators> > of 4th house causing trouble to lagna or lagna lord and has some> > connection with the 6th lord as well, and for many other similar> > combinations.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "ash.rsh55"> > <ash.rsh55@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello All,> > > I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna> > regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job /> > work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks> > will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal> > and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let> > him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about> > this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier.> > Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology?> > As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two.> > > 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies.> > > 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that> > the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers,> > sisters.> > > But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you> > trust let you down?> > > Thanks ,> > > Anita> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji,Thank you very much for the explanation. I appreciate your response.Regs,Anita--- On Sun, 22/3/09, vsatya1076 <vsatya1076 wrote:vsatya1076 <vsatya1076 Re: Combinations for let-downs Date: Sunday, 22 March, 2009, 3:22 PM Sreenadh ji, Can 4L in 6H (Scorpio / Mars which is badhak for Leo lagna) also means same thing? But Mars here is exalted and in parivartan with Saturn in 9H (Aries - badhak sthan).. This person had fall from grace and left lonely - both at home with family and outside with friends and colleagues. He is known to be a very nice and helpful person - but his own family is split fighting over him and he is thrown out of job twice for no fault of his own. I am intrigued here because there seems to be no link to Ma / Sa at all - all this happened in Ra-Ke antar dasa, Ra is in 7H and Ke is in Lagna along with Moon (12L). - Satya ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreesog > wrote: > > Dear Anita ji, > There could be many combinations from which astrologers could derive > such a result. One one usual combination they depend upon is - > * The Lagna lord going to enemy house and the dasa or antara of the > same planet running. This result would be told based on the words given > in phaladeepika "Snigthopi tasyati riputwamapnuyal" (even the friends > and well wishers will let him down and will become his enemies) > Such a result predicted may depend on many factors and (the above > being one among the same), and can get modified depending on the > planetary positions. Since almost all the results are derived ones, it > is difficult to say based on exactly what the said astrologer derived > such a result. > I may say such a result if I see that the 4th lord or significators > of 4th house causing trouble to lagna or lagna lord and has some > connection with the 6th lord as well, and for many other similar > combinations. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "ash.rsh55" > <ash.rsh55@> wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna > regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / > work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks > will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal > and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let > him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about > this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier. > Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology? > As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two. > > 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies.. > > 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that > the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, > sisters. > > But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you > trust let you down? > > Thanks , > > Anita > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Respected Bohraji,Thank you very much for your response. I will certainly check it up.Regards,Anita--- On Sun, 22/3/09, msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote:msbohra62 <msbohra62 Re: Combinations for let-downs Date: Sunday, 22 March, 2009, 12:29 PM Dear Anita, In my view 1st lord in 12th,native will give all efforts for others. 2nd lord in 12th all family members will be get benefits from the native. My personal reading,which planet occupied in 12th the Karka of the planets get the benefits from the native directly or indirectly. See these in urs friends chart. Thanks, M.S.bohra ancient_indian_ astrology, "ash.rsh55" <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Hello All, > I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a prasna regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and thinks will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on personal and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will let him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing earlier. Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in astrology? As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two. > 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies. > 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means that the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, sisters. > But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom you trust let you down? > Thanks , > Anita > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Sreenadh ji Thanks so much for the wonderful explanation. You mentioned Sun in 6H along with Mars, but here in this chart Sun is in 3H along with Merc and Venus (own sign Libra). I guess that would change that native will not be affected in Sun dasa and from not being placed in the 6H. Here are the placements again: 1H (Leo) Moon and Ketu, 2H Jupiter, 3H Merc, Sun and Venus, 6H Mars, 7H Rahu and 9H Saturn (retro). Your explanation is good for my learning. Regards, Satya , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Satya ji, > Leo Lagna; Lagna lord Sun in 6th in Cp along with Mars; Saturn in > 9th in Aries; Ke in Leo Lagna and Ra in 7th in Aq - This is what I > gather from your words. > Here Lagna lord Sun is in 6th and is supposed to give bad results > during Sun Dasa. These bad results can also materialize during Ketu dasa > or antara since Ke is placed in Leo the sign of Sun. (and Ke is supposed > to give the result of its hose lord and the planets it is placed along > with). In short Ke (or even Ra - the other part of Ketu) will give the > results of Sun placed in 6th house - i.e. 6th house results. Now what > are these 6th house results and which are the planets associated with? > They are 4th lord Mars in 6th (losing peace of mind, losing > friends-land-relatives etc), Lagna lord Sun in 6th (health problems, > sadness, police warrants, loss of position etc), 6th lord Saturn in 9th > in debilitation (loss of luck, relationship problems with father and > elders), 9th lord in 6th (loss of luck) - all indicating bad results! > [Ofcourse positive results indicated by malefic in 6th, 9th lord > aspecting 9th, 6th lord aspecting 6th, 7th lord in 9th - also will be > there. But since as of now we are interested in the qn " why the bad > results? " - I am concentrating on the same] > So it is just natural that all those results materialized in Ra/Ke; > Ra giving the results of Saturn and Ke giving the results of Sun - both > connected with Mars in 6th. > Note: Considering the indicated combinations alone, the situations > will change and positive results should materialize during Ra/Ma. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vsatya1076 " > <vsatya1076@> wrote: > > > > Sreenadh ji, > > > > Can 4L in 6H (Scorpio / Mars which is badhak for Leo lagna) also means > same thing? But Mars here is exalted and in parivartan with Saturn in 9H > (Aries - badhak sthan). > > > > This person had fall from grace and left lonely - both at home with > family and outside with friends and colleagues. He is known to be a very > nice and helpful person - but his own family is split fighting over him > and he is thrown out of job twice for no fault of his own. > > > > I am intrigued here because there seems to be no link to Ma / Sa at > all - all this happened in Ra-Ke antar dasa, Ra is in 7H and Ke is in > Lagna along with Moon (12L). > > > > - Satya > > > > , " Sreenadh " sreesog@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > There could be many combinations from which astrologers could > derive > > > such a result. One one usual combination they depend upon is - > > > * The Lagna lord going to enemy house and the dasa or antara of > the > > > same planet running. This result would be told based on the words > given > > > in phaladeepika " Snigthopi tasyati riputwamapnuyal " (even the > friends > > > and well wishers will let him down and will become his enemies) > > > Such a result predicted may depend on many factors and (the > above > > > being one among the same), and can get modified depending on the > > > planetary positions. Since almost all the results are derived ones, > it > > > is difficult to say based on exactly what the said astrologer > derived > > > such a result. > > > I may say such a result if I see that the 4th lord or > significators > > > of 4th house causing trouble to lagna or lagna lord and has some > > > connection with the 6th lord as well, and for many other similar > > > combinations. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " ash.rsh55 " > > > <ash.rsh55@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I had an occasion to meet an astrologer with whom I raised a > prasna > > > regarding a friend of mine who was having a tough time at his job / > > > work. The astrologer told me that the people whom he trusts and > thinks > > > will stand by him will take full advantage of his goodness on > personal > > > and professional levels but will not help him in any way. They will > let > > > him down after taking advantage of him. When I told my friend about > > > this, he said that an astrologer had told him the same thing > earlier. > > > Can anyone tell me what are the combos for this situation in > astrology? > > > As far as I am aware, it has to be one of the following two. > > > > 1) lagna lord in 6th where relatives become enemies. > > > > 2) fourth lord with malefics. I was told this combination means > that > > > the person will not get any help from his /her family, brothers, > > > sisters. > > > > But can anyone tell me what is the combination where people whom > you > > > trust let you down? > > > > Thanks , > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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