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I am Ram

I have a doubt for a very long time in the "Munn Janmam"

whether "Munn Janmam" was a topic

belongs to true or not

how to believe the Munn Janmam

and how to understand

i have seen the astrology which is written in the Palm leaves (OLAI SUVADI)

but i cant able to believe it

please give a clear cut solution about the topic

MUNN JANMAM

 

i am awaiting the reply with an example

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sreenadh <sreesog Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:03:48 PM Re: how about a writeup?

 

Dear Neelam ji, The statement that - " (Nirayana) Astrology is a vedanga" it self must be of later origin, since we don't find much Nirayana astrology in Vedas but only Sayana astrology. Of course it would be true to say that Sayana (Tropical) astrology is a Vedanga; but that statement may not be true about Nirayana astrology. I believe that Nirayana astrology is of Non-Vedic/Tantric/ Agama origin. ==>> But where is the origin of Indian Astrological Philosophy? <== It could be stated that - it is in Tantra. But even that statement would only be partially true, since astrology in itself was a religion and a philosophical system. The statement I would prefer better is - "The origin of astrological philosophy is in astrology itself!". Astrology was more than a predictive system, it was in itself a complete

philosophy, it was in itself almost a religion - even though the whole system is in tune with Agama (Tantric/Non- vedic) tradition, and astrology in itself was called "Agama Sastra" (A tantric branch of knowledge).==>> How can we delink astrology from ancient thoughts and philosophy?<== It is not about any delinking, it is just aboout understanding where we stand (as the followers of Nirayana astrology) and it all originated.Love and Regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> > If you disagree with the statement as such, it is a different matter. But> where is the origin of Indian Astrological Philosophy? I thought astrology> was one of the Vedangas and one studied it after being well versed in Vedas> and such subjects as

Theory of Karma. How can we delink astrology from> ancient thoughts and philosophy?> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/2/26 Sreenadh sreesog > > Dear Neealm ji,> > ==>> >> > *> astrology demonstrates the Theory of Karma*> > <==> > I disagree with this statement and think that Karma theory was not> > originally part of indian astrological philosophy. Any way, that is another> > issue. > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shankar ji,> > >> > > You are most welcome to compile the write up and I am sure members will> > be> > > happy provide their input.> > > Gaurav ji has

already sent his 'penny'.> > >> > > Here's my 'paisa', if I may,> > >> > > Astrology is the only study which can make us understand the past and> > reveal> > > the future, thereby enabling us to make the best use of our present. This> > > judgement can help us in various ways as given by Gaurav ji and we can> > find> > > innumerable uses of it in our day-to-day life.> > >> > > But more importantly, * astrology demonstrates the Theory of Karma and> > allows> > > us to understand the cycle of life with ACCEPTANCE, and urges us to> > improve> > > our karmas and become better human beings. To whatever is inevitable, it> > > lends a cooperative hand. Whatever is to be, it does not madly struggle> > > against. Whatever is not to be, it does not

absolutely demand.> > > *> > > Please feel free to take it or leave it.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/2/26 ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli shankarabharadwaj@> > >> > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > >> > > > My intention in changing the title of the thread was to deal with it> > > > separately, not really as a fallout of that thread. Let me for now> > think of> > > > the sincere cases only > > > >> > > > Shankar> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > ** neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > *Sent:* Thursday,

February 26, 2009 2:47:58 PM> > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] how about a writeup?> > > >> > > > Dear Shankar Bharadwaj ji,> > > >> > > > While it a good idea to compile such a write up as you suggest and it> > may> > > > help some people who are sincere in their approach. They might> > sincerely try> > > > and to understand the space they are venturing in. But if a person only> > > > enters with the purpose of creating nuisance and disturbance will not> > bother> > > > to read anything. This member has just written a very nasty mail to me> > now> > > > after my message to Gaurav ji. We may not waste our valuable time on> > such> > > > people who do not appear to be sincere in their queries. For all we> >

know,> > > > their purpose might only be to make fun of astrologers and abuse them.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>