Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Pranams,Dear Jyotishis,Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long living.Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good social environment.This status is being helped to achive by ones 7th house.If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would get early his doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja.I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament predominantly when become ones 6th house .Thank you all in advance. New Email addresses available on Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Pranams, Dear Jyothishis, I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy – ‘where there is a will there is a wayâ€. Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasi tends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends / relatives - relatively expressing greater degree of unpolished behaviors, non benevolent temperamental uncivil attitudes towards others. The answer lies in the sixth house read with lagna. We know each Rasi metaphorically described as animals, arthropods, reptiles, and sub- human beings etc. No wonder some of these morbid metaphorical qualities are also found in human beings born under these zodiacal rasi .Saravali too confirms various behaviors found in different rasi born individuals, in its ch.6 Bava phalam sloka 10*,it says :that individuals born with Makara rasi as 6th house,they always earn long term wrath through their sources of Dhana laabhaa,family,friends,saadhu janaa and also from others . My study reasoning for the above reveals that Leo rasi ascendent is portrayed as a beast lion,further it is our prudence that these rasi ascendant people temperamentally short tempered because it is also a Osa / kuroora rasi and in addition to the above, these individuals are gifted with Makara / Capricorn as their rona ,rOka and kaama sthana , though Capricorn is an ukuma rasi, this rasi is partly depicted as cold blooded crocodile. You know crocodile is a don’t care master, it will never let loose its pray even if it is ‘Iraavadham’ , only maximum sicshaa by ‘Chakraayutha’ could make it endure , so also these natives' Dhushta attitude is mended by sicsha parikaara meted out by their dasa bukti and sade-setti in Kaliyukaa- " He who sows so he reaps " . Now let us examine few Leo natives with Capricorn as their sixth house: 1)Late.Mr.Saloth Sar /Pol Pot, Combodian Director born on May 19, 1925 at 12:00 PM in Prek Sbauv, Kampong (Cambodge) .He was born in Leo lagna with Makara as his 6th house.History tells , his thoughtless cruel governance resulted in deaths of millions -finally he was hated by the people, his Government collapsed and driven into jungles . (If interested to make further case studies on Leo lagna -Makara 6th house natives, with little effort one may sure to get similar celebrity horoscopes matching with varied degree of cruelness,bad temper in them due to disposition planets' influences prevailing on them from their birth ). 2) I had a Pawn-broker & Oil seeds merchant friend (relative)from Tirunelveli,Tamilnadu. Who had his eldest son born on 14.2.1961 in Tirunelveli. This wooden headed fellow during his adolescence school days and even now some times behaves as a shameless liar, used to pick quarrels / tussles with his fellow mates and tease hoodwink neighbors / family members ; often he was a head ache to his parents then. You could see from the above horoscope, he being a Leo lagna native, having Makara as his sixth house, his 6th lord in sixth house,8th lord and 12th lord has co-joined it. This had made him shameless too in addition to his cranky behavior with members of his family as well as with outsiders even for petty matters he would resorts to exhibit roudhraakaara- kadakali.The quality of this individual matches both with the above said Saravali sloka* and also goes along with Jaadhaka tathvam Ch.2 sloka 132 which reads as if 8th lord associates with paapi in papa rasi,such natives would lead a shameful living . He has married a rich business man’s daughter at a distant city, living a contemptuous life,scheming and dreaming of becoming a big political figure with bats in his belfry . From the above, one may reason that Astrologers are better qualified in selecting their friends / colleagues rather than a non astrologer-because Astrologers said to possess real eyes others said possess wounds instead of eyes,therefore they always show keen interests in selecting their friends and never forgets the adage “Tell me your friend ,I shall tell who you areâ€. I welcome any other alternative convincing views on the above. Thank you all in advance for giving a patient reading sparing your valuable time. Sincerely, Dhananjayan, (An Astrology Student) --- On Tue, 24/2/09, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote: > Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya > Love,Lust,Lost ! > > Tuesday, 24 February, 2009, 12:51 AM > Pranams, > > Dear Jyotishis, > > Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living > beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from > 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not > restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep > cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals > rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long > living. > > Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public > bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good > social environment.This status is being helped to achive by > ones 7th house. > > If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the > lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical > to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with > most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would > get early his > doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja. > > > I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above > with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin > with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament > predominantly when become ones 6th house . > > > > Thank you all in advance. > > > > > Get your new Email address! > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before > someone else does! > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ Get your new Email address! 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 This is a most rubbish mail I have ever seen, with no sense of reality and a prejudiced understanding of the principles of astrology, which apparently have not been understood well, by the writer. The title or the Message Header itself reveals whats the movie going to be inside the picture hall. // You could see from the above horoscope, he being a Leo lagna native, having Makara as his sixth house, his 6th lord in sixth house,8th lord and 12th lord has co-joined it. This had made him shameless too in addition to his cranky behavior with members of his family as well as with outsiders even for petty matters he would resorts to exhibit roudhraakaara- kadakali // I have the same combination. Prove that I am shameless. Bhaskar. P.S. This is a deliberate attempt by the Poster to create rough weathers in this group I Hope that the moderators can sense this. , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> > > Pranams,> > Dear Jyothishis,> > > > I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy â€" ‘where there is a will there is a wayâ€.> > Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasi tends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends / relatives - relatively expressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Dhananjayan Balan ji,Your first mail was perhaps not understood by anyone, so we didn't hear any comments on that.In response to your second mail, I am giving an example of a Leo native here: 20.8.1944/8.11.00/MumbaiWould you be kind enough to describe this person's traits in the light of 'your study' so that his real character is revealed to all. RegardsNeelam 2009/2/25 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish This is a most rubbish mail I have ever seen, with no sense of reality and a prejudiced understanding of the principles of astrology, which apparently have not been understood well, by the writer. The title or the Message Header itself reveals whats the movie going to be inside the picture hall. // You could see from the above horoscope, he being a Leo lagna native, having Makara as his sixth house, his 6th lord in sixth house,8th lord and 12th lord has co-joined it. This had made him shameless too in addition to his cranky behavior with members of his family as well as with outsiders even for petty matters he would resorts to exhibit roudhraakaara- kadakali // I have the same combination. Prove that I am shameless. Bhaskar. P.S. This is a deliberate attempt by the Poster to create rough weathers in this group I Hope that the moderators can sense this. � � � , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> > > Pranams,> > Dear Jyothishis,> > > > I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy � " ‘where there is a will there is a way� . > > Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasi tends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends / relatives - relatively expressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Brahma, //I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy †" ‘where there is a will there is a wayâ€.// As long as you write material, we will take time to read such long messages, else its useless. //Saravali too confirms various behaviors found in different rasi born individuals, in its ch.6 Bava phalam sloka 10*,it says :that individuals born with Makara rasi as 6th house,they always earn long term wrath through their sources of Dhana laabhaa,family,friends,saadhu janaa and also from others . // Since I have never read Saravali, so I would appreciate if you kindly post the original slokas for our convenience. //My study reasoning for the above reveals that Leo rasi ascendent is portrayed as a beast lion,further it is our prudence that these rasi ascendant people temperamentally short tempered because it is also a Osa / kuroora rasi// Yes, Lion is a beast, short-tempered, but is he angry throughout??? I think it should " Oja/Kroora Rashi " . //these individuals are gifted with Makara / Capricorn as their rona ,rOka and kaama sthana , though Capricorn is an ukuma rasi, this rasi is partly depicted as cold blooded crocodile. You know crocodile is a don’t care master, it will never let loose its pray even if it is ‘Iraavadham’ , only maximum sicshaa by ‘Chakraayutha’ could make it endure , so also these natives' Dhushta attitude is mended by sicsha parikaara meted out by their dasa bukti and sade-setti in Kaliyukaa- " He who sows so he reaps " .// Why only Makara as Kamasthana???What about Libra?What about Gemini??Did they commit any mistake for being disqualified as " Kama Sthana " . I am sorry to say, but your spellings are heavily corrupted. I dont vouch that crocodile is a dont care master!!! //The quality of this individual matches both with the above said Saravali sloka* and also goes along with Jaadhaka tathvam Ch.2 sloka 132 which reads as if 8th lord associates with paapi in papa rasi,such natives would lead a shameful living .// I checked with Jatak Tatwam,as you mentioned Ch.2, Sloka 132. Nothing is mentioned beyond " Illegitimate births " . Can you pls recheck & clarify with us? What is meant my shameful living? " Your vice is my virtue " --what do you think of this??? I hope that you will be kind enough to write messages in short, or break them in parts, so that people like me, who are having issues with eyes, dont take much time in reading your messages. I hope that you will definitely revert back!! Thank you, . , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote: > > > > Pranams, > > Dear Jyothishis, > > > > I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy †" ‘where there is a will there is a wayâ€. > > Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasi tends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends / relatives - relatively expressing greater degree of unpolished behaviors, non benevolent temperamental uncivil attitudes towards others. > > The answer lies in the sixth house read with lagna. We know each Rasi metaphorically described as animals, arthropods, reptiles, and sub- human beings etc. No wonder some of these morbid metaphorical qualities are also found in human beings born under these zodiacal rasi .Saravali too confirms various behaviors found in different rasi born individuals, in its ch.6 Bava phalam sloka 10*,it says :that individuals born with Makara rasi as 6th house,they always earn long term wrath through their sources of Dhana laabhaa,family,friends,saadhu janaa and also from others . > > My study reasoning for the above reveals that Leo rasi ascendent is portrayed as a beast lion,further it is our prudence that these rasi ascendant people temperamentally short tempered because it is also a Osa / kuroora rasi and in addition to the above, these individuals are gifted with Makara / Capricorn as their rona ,rOka and kaama sthana , though Capricorn is an ukuma rasi, this rasi is partly depicted as cold blooded crocodile. You know crocodile is a don’t care master, it will never let loose its pray even if it is ‘Iraavadham’ , only maximum sicshaa by ‘Chakraayutha’ could make it endure , so also these natives' Dhushta attitude is mended by sicsha parikaara meted out by their dasa bukti and sade-setti in Kaliyukaa- " He who sows so he reaps " . > > Now let us examine few Leo natives with Capricorn as their sixth house: > > 1)Late.Mr.Saloth Sar /Pol Pot, Combodian Director born on May 19, 1925 at 12:00 PM in Prek Sbauv, Kampong (Cambodge) .He was born in Leo lagna with Makara as his 6th house.History tells , his thoughtless cruel governance resulted in deaths of millions -finally he was hated by the people, his Government collapsed and driven into jungles . > > (If interested to make further case studies on Leo lagna -Makara 6th house natives, with little effort one may sure to get similar celebrity horoscopes matching with varied degree of cruelness,bad temper in them due to disposition planets' influences prevailing on them from their birth ). > > > 2) I had a Pawn-broker & Oil seeds merchant friend (relative)from Tirunelveli,Tamilnadu. Who had his eldest son born on 14.2.1961 in Tirunelveli. > This wooden headed fellow during his adolescence school days and even now some times behaves as a shameless liar, used to pick quarrels / tussles with his fellow mates and tease hoodwink neighbors / family members ; often he was a head ache to his parents then. You could see from the above horoscope, he being a Leo lagna native, having Makara as his sixth house, his 6th lord in sixth house,8th lord and 12th lord has co-joined it. This had made him shameless too in addition to his cranky behavior with members of his family as well as with outsiders even for petty matters he would resorts to exhibit roudhraakaara- kadakali.The quality of this individual matches both with the above said Saravali sloka* and also goes along with Jaadhaka tathvam Ch.2 sloka 132 which reads as if 8th lord associates with paapi in papa rasi,such natives would lead a shameful living . He has married a rich business man’s daughter at a distant city, living a contemptuous > life,scheming and dreaming of becoming a big political figure with bats in his belfry . > > From the above, one may reason that Astrologers are better qualified in selecting their friends / colleagues rather than a non astrologer-because Astrologers said to possess real eyes others said possess wounds instead of eyes,therefore they always show keen interests in selecting their friends and never forgets the adage “Tell me your friend ,I shall tell who you areâ€. > > I welcome any other alternative convincing views on the above. > > Thank you all in advance for giving a patient reading sparing your valuable time. > > > Sincerely, > Dhananjayan, > (An Astrology Student) > > > --- On Tue, 24/2/09, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote: > > > Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya > > Love,Lust,Lost ! > > > > Tuesday, 24 February, 2009, 12:51 AM > > Pranams, > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living > > beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from > > 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not > > restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep > > cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals > > rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long > > living. > > > > Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public > > bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good > > social environment.This status is being helped to achive by > > ones 7th house. > > > > If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the > > lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical > > to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with > > most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would > > get early his > > doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja. > > > > > > I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above > > with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin > > with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament > > predominantly when become ones 6th house . > > > > > > > > Thank you all in advance. > > > > > > > > > > Get your new Email address! > > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before > > someone else does! > > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > > > Get your new Email address! > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before someone else does! > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Mr. Student Dhananjayan, // Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasitends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends /relatives - relatively expressing greater degree of unpolished behaviors, nonbenevolent temperamental uncivil attitudes towards others.// Which seer has mentioned that " relatively expressing greater degree of unpolished behaviors, nonbenevolent temperamental uncivil attitudes towards others ' Please give the names of the seers, and quote the relevant shlokas in the named texts. // Saravali too confirms variousbehaviors found in different rasi born individuals, in its ch.6 Bava phalamsloka 10*,it says :that individuals born with Makara rasi as 6th house,theyalways earn long term wrath through their sources of Dhanalaabhaa,family,friends,saadhu janaa and also from others .// Please give us the exact translation of the shloka cited above. // My study reasoning for the above reveals that Leo rasi ascendent is portrayed asa beast lion,further it is our prudence that these rasi ascendant peopletemperamentally short tempered // You have mentioned at the end of the mail that You are a student. So why are you trying to don the role of a "Teacher " ? Any small boy who has enetered astrology also knows that leos are short-tempered. What great studies are you talking about ? Even a non astrological person can say this about a " Simha " personality. // because it is also a Osa / kuroora rasi and inaddition to the above, these individuals are gifted with Makara / Capricorn astheir rona ,rOka and kaama sthana , though Capricorn is an ukuma rasi, thisrasi is partly depicted as cold blooded crocodile. You know crocodile is adon’t care master, it will never let loose its pray even if it is‘Iraavadham’ , only maximum sicshaa by ‘Chakraayutha’ could make itendure , so also these natives' Dhushta attitude is mended by sicsha parikaarameted out by their dasa bukti and sade-setti in Kaliyukaa-"He who sows so hereaps".// Which text talks about being " Cold blooded " and which text says " Dhustha attitude " // Now let us examine few Leo natives with Capricorn as their sixth house: // What about Guru Nanak, Shivaji maharaj, Kanchi Kamakoti Sri Sankacharya, Alan leo, Paramhansa Yogananda, etc who had Capricorn in the 6th House ? Should we attribute your stupid comments on the 6th house , tho these Horoscopes ? // 1)Late.Mr.Saloth Sar /Pol Pot, Combodian Director born on May 19, 1925 at 12:00PM in Prek Sbauv, Kampong (Cambodge) .He was born in Leo lagna with Makara ashis 6th house.History tells , his thoughtless cruel governance resulted indeaths of millions -finally he was hated by the people, his Government collapsedand driven into jungles .// (If interested to make further case studies on Leo lagna -Makara 6th housenatives, with little effort one may sure to get similar celebrity horoscopesmatching with varied degree of cruelness,bad temper in them due to dispositionplanets' influences prevailing on them from their birth ). // //You could see from the above horoscope, he being a Leolagna native, having Makara as his sixth house, his 6th lord in sixth house,8thlord and 12th lord has co-joined it. This had made him shameless too in additionto his cranky behavior with members of his family as well as with outsiderseven for petty matters he would resorts to exhibit roudhraakaara- kadakali.Thequality of this individual matches both with the above said Saravali sloka* // // and also goes along with Jaadhaka tathvam Ch.2 sloka 132 which reads as if 8th lordassociates with paapi in papa rasi,such natives would lead a shameful living .// You are using your own statements and limited capapbilities of the negative prejudiced mind to twist the meanings given by any seers just to prove what you wish to, regardless of its bearing to the truth. I will just quote one author , though i can quote 20 more, but I do not think that you are having the calibre with whom I can discuss on astrology. You have proved your calibre by your posting, and for me to discuss with you, would mean coming down to your levels of understanding, which I never had at any time in my journey through astrology. Mr. BV Raman. How to Judge a Horoscope Part 2 page 73 The 8th lord in the 6th house. If the Lord of the 8th house joins the 6th Lord in the 6th house, a Rajyoga results. Material affluence , fame and acquisition of objects desired are the good results. If the 6th lord is fortified, he is able to overcome all his troubles and emerge victor. No attempts made by his ill-wishers and enemies to harm, will succed. You are advised to remain a student for the rest of your Life, and not yet began teaching. Bhaskar. , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> > > Pranams,> > Dear Jyothishis,> > > > I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy â€" ‘where there is a will there is a wayâ€.> > Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasi tends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends / relatives - relatively expressing greater degree of unpolished behaviors, non benevolent temperamental uncivil attitudes towards others.> > The answer lies in the sixth house read with lagna. We know each Rasi metaphorically described as animals, arthropods, reptiles, and sub- human beings etc. No wonder some of these morbid metaphorical qualities are also found in human beings born under these zodiacal rasi .Saravali too confirms various behaviors found in different rasi born individuals, in its ch.6 Bava phalam sloka 10*,it says :that individuals born with Makara rasi as 6th house,they always earn long term wrath through their sources of Dhana laabhaa,family,friends,saadhu janaa and also from others . > > My study reasoning for the above reveals that Leo rasi ascendent is portrayed as a beast lion,further it is our prudence that these rasi ascendant people temperamentally short tempered because it is also a Osa / kuroora rasi and in addition to the above, these individuals are gifted with Makara / Capricorn as their rona ,rOka and kaama sthana , though Capricorn is an ukuma rasi, this rasi is partly depicted as cold blooded crocodile. You know crocodile is a don’t care master, it will never let loose its pray even if it is ‘Iraavadham’ , only maximum sicshaa by ‘Chakraayutha’ could make it endure , so also these natives' Dhushta attitude is mended by sicsha parikaara meted out by their dasa bukti and sade-setti in Kaliyukaa-"He who sows so he reaps".> > Now let us examine few Leo natives with Capricorn as their sixth house:> > 1)Late.Mr.Saloth Sar /Pol Pot, Combodian Director born on May 19, 1925 at 12:00 PM in Prek Sbauv, Kampong (Cambodge) .He was born in Leo lagna with Makara as his 6th house.History tells , his thoughtless cruel governance resulted in deaths of millions -finally he was hated by the people, his Government collapsed and driven into jungles .> > (If interested to make further case studies on Leo lagna -Makara 6th house natives, with little effort one may sure to get similar celebrity horoscopes matching with varied degree of cruelness,bad temper in them due to disposition planets' influences prevailing on them from their birth ).> > > 2) I had a Pawn-broker & Oil seeds merchant friend (relative)from Tirunelveli,Tamilnadu. Who had his eldest son born on 14.2.1961 in Tirunelveli.> This wooden headed fellow during his adolescence school days and even now some times behaves as a shameless liar, used to pick quarrels / tussles with his fellow mates and tease hoodwink neighbors / family members ; often he was a head ache to his parents then. You could see from the above horoscope, he being a Leo lagna native, having Makara as his sixth house, his 6th lord in sixth house,8th lord and 12th lord has co-joined it. This had made him shameless too in addition to his cranky behavior with members of his family as well as with outsiders even for petty matters he would resorts to exhibit roudhraakaara- kadakali.The quality of this individual matches both with the above said Saravali sloka* and also goes along with Jaadhaka tathvam Ch.2 sloka 132 which reads as if 8th lord associates with paapi in papa rasi,such natives would lead a shameful living . He has married a rich business man’s daughter at a distant city, living a contemptuous> life,scheming and dreaming of becoming a big political figure with bats in his belfry . > > From the above, one may reason that Astrologers are better qualified in selecting their friends / colleagues rather than a non astrologer-because Astrologers said to possess real eyes others said possess wounds instead of eyes,therefore they always show keen interests in selecting their friends and never forgets the adage “Tell me your friend ,I shall tell who you areâ€.> > I welcome any other alternative convincing views on the above.> > Thank you all in advance for giving a patient reading sparing your valuable time. > > > Sincerely,> Dhananjayan,> (An Astrology Student)> > > --- On Tue, 24/2/09, Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya wrote:> > > Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya > Love,Lust,Lost !> > > > Tuesday, 24 February, 2009, 12:51 AM> > Pranams,> > > > Dear Jyotishis,> > > > Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living> > beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from> > 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not> > restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep> > cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals> > rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long> > living.> > > > Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public> > bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good> > social environment.This status is being helped to achive by> > ones 7th house.> > > > If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the> > lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical> > to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with> > most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would> > get early his> > doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja.> > > > > > I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above> > with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin> > with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament> > predominantly when become ones 6th house .> > > > > > > > Thank you all in advance.> > > > > > > > > > Get your new Email address!> > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before> > someone else does!> > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/> > > Get your new Email address!> Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before someone else does!> http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Brahma ji,While you study the chart given by me and revert to us, I tried to go through your mail literally painstakingly. Noted some points which I am giving in black with your points in blue.I am of the opinion that the captioned subject relating to SIXTH HOUSE could give some direction to lives and insight for corrections to the needy – ‘where there is a will there is a way”. I thought whole horoscope was a game to take corrective measures. Why not start with lagna?Let us examine the above in line with Seers'opinion, which zodiacal sixth Rasi tends to develop maximum amount of animosity with ones neighbors / friends / relatives - relatively expressing greater degree of unpolished behaviors, non benevolent temperamental uncivil attitudes towards others. Which seers’ please quote.The answer lies in the sixth house read with lagna. We know each Rasi metaphorically described as animals, arthropods, reptiles, and sub- human beings etc. No wonder some of these morbid metaphorical qualities are also found in human beings born under these zodiacal rasi .Saravali too confirms various behaviors found in different rasi born individuals, in its ch.6 Bava phalam sloka 10*,it says :that individuals born with Makara rasi as 6th house, they always earn long term wrath through their sources of Dhana laabhaa,family,friends,saadhu janaa and also from others . Which answer? Kindly give the quote from saravaliMy study reasoning for the above reveals that Leo rasi ascendent is portrayed as a beast lion,further it is our prudence that these rasi ascendant people temperamentally short tempered because it is also a Osa / kuroora rasi and in addition to the above, these individuals are gifted with Makara / Capricorn as their rona ,rOka and kaama sthana , though Capricorn is an ukuma rasi, this rasi is partly depicted as cold blooded crocodile. You know crocodile is a don’t care master, it will never let loose its pray even if it is ‘Iraavadham’ , only maximum sicshaa by ‘Chakraayutha’ could make it endure , so also these natives' Dhushta attitude is mended by sicsha parikaara meted out by their dasa bukti and sade-setti in Kaliyukaa- " He who sows so he reaps " . This para is not understandable at all. Kindly make it short and simple. And how does 6H become the kaama sthana? What is rona, roka, ukuma? If makar is cold blooded crocodile, what about the bloodless crab, scorpio and pisces? What about the makar lagna and wildbeast in 6H. For the rest, please write in simple language and quote from texts you’ve mentioned.From the above, one may reason that Astrologers are better qualified in selecting their friends / colleagues rather than a non astrologer-because Astrologers said to possess real eyes others said possess wounds instead of eyes,therefore they always show keen interests in selecting their friends and never forgets the adage “Tell me your friend ,I shall tell who you are”. Do you mean to say that no one should have LEO natives as friends?? Is it the crux of your discovery through this study? You are a student you say. From which institute?RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Dhananjayan, Going strictly by the classics.. The 6th lord in a trika house is called Harsha Yoga The 8th lord in a trika house is called Sarala Yoga The 12th lord in a trika house is called Vimala Yoga. Trik ofcourse is 6,8 & 12 houses.. According to Raman: Harsha makes one fortunate, happy, invincible, physically strong, wealthy, famous and afraid of sinful deeds. According to Charak: This is supposed to confer happiness, health and fame. Going by Phaladeepika (Source:http://www.astrojyoti.com/phaladeepika3.htm) Sloka 57 : If the lords of the several Bhavas from the Lagna onwards occupy the 6th, 8th or 12th or if the Bhavas be associated with or aspected by malefics, 12 kinds of Yogas are declared to arise for the 12 Bhavas from the Lagna. They are in their order :(1) Avayoga, (2) Nisswayoga, (3) Mritiyoga, (4) Kuhuyoga, (5) Pamarayoga, (6) Harshayoga, (7) Dushkritiyoga, (8) Saralayoga, (9) Nirbhagyayoga, (10) Duryoga, (11) Daridrayoga, and (12) Vimalayoga. Interested members may read the details.. Nowhere is any mention of shamelessness!! so how the conclusion? Why would you pick on any individual's chart and use it in a forum without his/her prior permission...this is surely not a moral act, according to me.. There is nothing wrong being a student, I am a student too and infact all of us are, whether we agree or not but why are you picking on a particular chart? Please reply with evidence from classics... Regards, Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 // Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long living. // They dont even speak about this in TV satsanga channels for this is understood even by a school going boy. What is the emaning of this pravachan in a jyotish forum ? What is the 5th house for ? Does it not show Love ? The 2nd house does not show tongue ? What about the 3rd ? does it not show expressions ? So how does all above be seen from the 6th house ? The 6th house must be weak to get all above ? Or should it be strong to have all above negative effects ? What about the 6th lord ? What happens when the 6th lord is strong ? What happens when the 6th lord is weak ? what happens when the 6th lord is in its own house ? what happens when it is debilitated ? what happens when it is debilitated as well as retrograde ? In what condition does the above effects manifest ? // Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good social environment.This status is being helped to achive by ones 7th house. // How can one fasten family bandhan with a Love without Lust ? Without Lust at time of sexual union how will one copulate ? If one does not copulate hen how will one fasten family bandhan ? Love without lust is for the temple Sanyaasis and the brahmacharis basically. In family ( Between husband and wife , Lust is necessary at times while at other times not required )How can this status be achieved only by the 7th house without help of other houses, please explain ?// If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would get early his doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja.// What is the meaning of the 6th and 7th house getting Lost ?How does the 8th take alead ? Is it a Motor car race ? Every child also knows in india that Kama and krodha are not good. What new are you trying to teach here ? How to know that one is leading a lustful Life, through the 7th house in a Horoscope ? How to know through the 7th house that one has got the most unplesant uncompromising Life partner ? // I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament predominantly when become ones 6th house . //How is the 6th house going to give bad temparement and is responsible for same ? What must be there in the 6th house to give so ? Only the zodiac sign will give this ? Nothing else ? Are you sure now what you are trying to talk about ? is the 6th House bad , or the Zodiac sign which appears, makes it bad ? Please explain. You are confused completely, it seems. And when you know everything and have already given lecture about this as a Teacher, then what remains to be discussed by us small fry . , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Dear Jyotishis,> > Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long living.> > Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good social environment.This status is being helped to achive by ones 7th house.> > If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would get early his> doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja.> > > I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament predominantly when become ones 6th house .> > > > Thank you all in advance.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 // love or no love towards others could be seen from 6th house. // If Love towards others is seen from the 6th House, then Dear Sirs, please let us know how to differntiate - Between Love for a Mother between Love for ones wife, between Love for ones paramour love for ones children Between Love for ones parents etc. etc.etc. from the 6th House ??? Do You mean to say that if the 6th house is afflicted the the man will not Love all of above ? Or do you mean to say that if the 6th house is strong then the man will not Love all of above ? In case he loves only few of above, then how to differentiate ? For instance how to differentiate Love between the wife and a paramour from the 6th house ? Now while explaining to us please do not talk about other houses, since you have specifically mentioned the 6th House . Yes, i have not read much texts. Can you tell me in which text is it written, that Love towards others could be seen from 6th house ? , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Dear Jyotishis,> > Buddha yajnaa - extending benevolence to all living beings,love or no love towards others could be seen from 6th house.Public wrath may torch an individual who had not restrained his tongue.A man should always be balanced,keep cool and calm cheerful temperament,only such individuals rests in others hearts-they could make an worthy long living.> > Love, with out lust fastens family bandhan and public bussiness without possessineness helps promote build a good social environment.This status is being helped to achive by ones 7th house.> > If the 6th and 7th houses are lost then 8th house takes the lead ,in other words a man with increased kroodha (inimical to all by nature) or leading a lustful life / living with most unpleasant uncompromising life partner or both would get early his> doors knocked by Dharma-Raaja.> > > I request the Jyothishis present here to discus the above with suitable quotes (if they are in agreement) to begin with that which zodiacal sign bestows bad temperament predominantly when become ones 6th house .> > > > Thank you all in advance.> > > > > Get your new Email address!> Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before someone else does!> http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Dhananjay, My mother is Leo lagna native. She has mars in her lagna, Jupiter in 6th, her 6L in 8th (8 and 6 parivartana). She is considered as an epitome of a noble woman. When she talks, there is only love in her speech. She is calm, never loses her temper, how much ever one will irritate her. The best part of her personality is she would never say " no " to anyone. She would give the food she eats to the beggars, not the leftovers. Naturally, she has many friends, people are always there to help her. My co-worker is an English man. He is leo lagna too. He has moon and Rahu in the 6th. He is the most friendly and helpful person in the department. I do not like to criticize anybody's efforts in learning astro but it would help if you ananlyze a minimum of 1000 charts before you arrive at any such conclusion. Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dear Dhananjayji, If you are talking about leo lagna native with capricorn as the 6th sign, in general, to be shameless or whatever you call, the best example for you to examine, would be that of Sri Chandrashekara Sarawathi (Kanchi periyawal). I need not write anything further on him. The thought of his name itself makes us greatly blessed. Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhagavatiji & Learned Members, There are endless Leo Lagna natives, who will be earning from " shameless " living, according to Mr.Dhananjayan Brahma. Few more example:- 1)Shree Chaitanyadev Mahaprabhu---If we call him shameless, yes, partially true--he was shameless to preach the " Hari-Bhakti " through Kirtan, his dance, his love--never cared for the public, neither he cared what will the public think, nor the monarch. As Mr.Brahma said " Makara is a dont care master!!! " , i find, yes it is justified. We all know, how did Lord Chaitanyadev preached the mantra " Hare Krishna Hare Ram " in his days, he was being hit by two drunkards, but that didn't deter him to make them utter " Hare Krishna Hare Ram " . 2)Late Prime Minister of India Shree Rajiv Gandhi--Leo Lagna Native. Was he shameless when he became the Prime Minister?I thought he was very timid/shy in his early days.I believe all will agree with me, that whatever he may be, he was not shameless. 3)President of USA, Late Mr.Richard Nixon--Leo Lagna.He served 8 yrs as a President of the nation, though he got into controversies, he was out of it, through his own policies. Added to it, I have several Leo Lagna friends & relatives---by God's grace, they are not earning through shameless living. We would expect some smart reply from Mr.Dhananjayan Brahma shortly & we may proceed further for a " healthy discussion " . Thank you, . , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Dhananjayji, > > If you are talking about leo lagna native with capricorn as the 6th > sign, in general, to be shameless or whatever you call, the best > example for you to examine, would be that of Sri Chandrashekara > Sarawathi (Kanchi periyawal). I need not write anything further on him. > The thought of his name itself makes us greatly blessed. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dear members of the forum, There can be thousands of Leo lagna natives in the Universe. In my view, Leo lagna has nothing to do with the native be " shamless " or honest. It depends on the configuration of the chart, particularly Lagna i.e. malefic planet posited in or aspects lagna, strength of lagna lord, navamsha lagna and trine to lagna and 10th house, 10th lord and trine to 10th etc. If Leo native has strong lagna and lagna lord, they are duty bound natives following righteous path. With love and regards --- On Thu, 2/26/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > <gaurav.ghosh > Re: Love,Lust,Lost ! > > Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:11 AM > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Bhagavatiji & Learned Members, > There are endless Leo Lagna natives, who will be earning > from > " shameless " living, according to Mr.Dhananjayan > Brahma. > Few more example:- > 1)Shree Chaitanyadev Mahaprabhu---If we call him shameless, > yes, > partially true--he was shameless to preach the > " Hari-Bhakti " through > Kirtan, his dance, his love--never cared for the public, > neither he > cared what will the public think, nor the monarch. As > Mr.Brahma said > " Makara is a dont care master!!! " , i find, yes it > is justified. We all > know, how did Lord Chaitanyadev preached the mantra > " Hare Krishna Hare > Ram " in his days, he was being hit by two drunkards, > but that didn't > deter him to make them utter " Hare Krishna Hare > Ram " . > 2)Late Prime Minister of India Shree Rajiv Gandhi--Leo > Lagna Native. > Was he shameless when he became the Prime Minister?I > thought he was > very timid/shy in his early days.I believe all will agree > with me, > that whatever he may be, he was not shameless. > 3)President of USA, Late Mr.Richard Nixon--Leo Lagna.He > served 8 yrs > as a President of the nation, though he got into > controversies, he was > out of it, through his own policies. > > Added to it, I have several Leo Lagna friends & > relatives---by God's > grace, they are not earning through shameless living. > > We would expect some smart reply from Mr.Dhananjayan Brahma > shortly & > we may proceed further for a " healthy > discussion " . > Thank you, > . > > > , > " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjayji, > > > > If you are talking about leo lagna native with > capricorn as the 6th > > sign, in general, to be shameless or whatever you > call, the best > > example for you to examine, would be that of Sri > Chandrashekara > > Sarawathi (Kanchi periyawal). I need not write > anything further on him. > > The thought of his name itself makes us greatly > blessed. > > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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