Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear all, I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts from each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue Neelamji Leo lagna hemmed between malefics Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver, spleen, RBCs, Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas and disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a killer combination which can even strike a healthy native.. True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!! Vijay Goel Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or Kidney failure could be there. True- the brain was involved Sreeram Srinivas The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, Capricon sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with other planets, possible for some physical handicap. True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self Sathyanarayana Gupta it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa - 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - Aayu (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa sequence. This is a very good explanation to determine longevity Sanjeevji Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thusdisease could be related with blood. True- Blood could have been involved Gopuji the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu. My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a reduction in RBC's , True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved Gaurav Gosh The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden, True- It was a sort of sudden death This is what had happened that day: The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to almost instant death. Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Respected Seniors,Why this event not occurred at rahu\saturn\mercury, instead of rahu\mercury\saturn ?Here saturn (6,7L) is in Mrityubhag and with jupiter as 8th lord. Both retro.What are the combination to get kill in a combat ? (war, attack or murdered)In this case, it was the major role of Mars (accident, fights) than saturn (disease).Mercury with mars (mars is bhadhakesh and Mahabhadhakesh as highlighted by Srennadhji as per Prashna Marg) in Kumbh (natural bhadhakesh)???Does lagna with less than 10 degree explain it in a more better way ?Please explain ?Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> > > Dear all,> > I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts from> each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead> to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue> > Neelamji> > Leo lagna hemmed between malefics> > Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the> possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver,> spleen, RBCs,> > > > Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates> hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas and> disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a killer> combination which can even strike a healthy native..> > True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of> RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!!> > Vijay Goel> > Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or> Kidney failure could be there.> > True- the brain was involved> > > > > Sreeram Srinivas> > The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, Capricon> sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with> other planets, possible for some physical handicap.> > > > True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self> > > > Sathyanarayana Gupta> > it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa -> 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - Aayu> (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for> consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by> 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death> embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa sequence.> > > > This is a very good explanation to determine longevity> > > > > > Sanjeevji> > Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thus> disease could be related with blood.> > > > True- Blood could have been involved> > Gopuji> > > > the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu.> > My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a> > reduction in RBC's ,> > > > True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved> > > > Gaurav Gosh> > The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden,> > True- It was a sort of sudden death> > > > This is what had happened that day:> > The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him> several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far> causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to almost> instant death.> > Regards,> > bhagavathi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Vijay ji, Bhagavati ji and other learned members, // Why this event not occurred at rahu\saturn\mercury, instead of rahu\mercury\saturn ?// Do not the transit planets at the time of death explain this? The learned seniors may have a better explanation. How can one differentiate a normal death, an accidental death and a death due to a long standing disease... from the natal chart? Also a sudden death may be due to heart failure [more commonly referred to as a heart attack], at a most unexpected moment or a violent death as occurred in this particular case or even death due to a vehicle accident or drowning etc. Can these be seen in the natal chart...and if so how? Please explain...thanks. blessings Renu , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Seniors, > > Why this event not occurred at rahu\saturn\mercury, instead of > rahu\mercury\saturn ? > Here saturn (6,7L) is in Mrityubhag and with jupiter as 8th lord. Both > retro. > > What are the combination to get kill in a combat ? (war, attack or > murdered) > > In this case, it was the major role of Mars (accident, fights) than > saturn (disease). > > Mercury with mars (mars is bhadhakesh and Mahabhadhakesh as highlighted > by Srennadhji as per Prashna Marg) in Kumbh (natural bhadhakesh)??? > > Does lagna with less than 10 degree explain it in a more better way ? > > Please explain ? > > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > > > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts > from > > each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead > > to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue > > > > Neelamji > > > > Leo lagna hemmed between malefics > > > > Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the > > possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver, > > spleen, RBCs, > > > > > > > > Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates > > hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas > and > > disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a > killer > > combination which can even strike a healthy native.. > > > > True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of > > RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!! > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or > > Kidney failure could be there. > > > > True- the brain was involved > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram Srinivas > > > > The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, > Capricon > > sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with > > other planets, possible for some physical handicap. > > > > > > > > True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self > > > > > > > > Sathyanarayana Gupta > > > > it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa - > > 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - > Aayu > > (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for > > consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by > > 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death > > embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa > sequence. > > > > > > > > This is a very good explanation to determine longevity > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjeevji > > > > Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thus > > disease could be related with blood. > > > > > > > > True- Blood could have been involved > > > > Gopuji > > > > > > > > the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu. > > > > My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a > > > > reduction in RBC's , > > > > > > > > True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved > > > > > > > > Gaurav Gosh > > > > The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden, > > > > True- It was a sort of sudden death > > > > > > > > This is what had happened that day: > > > > The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him > > several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far > > causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to > almost > > instant death. > > > > Regards, > > > > bhagavathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Bhagavati ji,Thank you for the interesting exercise. Such exercises are real eye-openers and tell us in no uncertain terms that we have a long way to go.It was quite cerain that ra-me-sa would be killer dasha to strike the native suddenly. Besides other transits, mars in 8H in pisces did make me think for a while about the violent and bloody death, but the confusion was created by the 6H, which indicated that native could be suffering from some disease and the focus was on diagnosing the disease. Mars-mer is always seen to be a dreadful combination. RegardsNeelam2009/2/22 renunw <renunw Dear Vijay ji, Bhagavati ji and other learned members, // Why this event not occurred at rahu\saturn\mercury, instead of rahu\mercury\saturn ?// Do not the transit planets at the time of death explain this? The learned seniors may have a better explanation. How can one differentiate a normal death, an accidental death and a death due to a long standing disease... from the natal chart? Also a sudden death may be due to heart failure [more commonly referred to as a heart attack], at a most unexpected moment or a violent death as occurred in this particular case or even death due to a vehicle accident or drowning etc. Can these be seen in the natal chart...and if so how? Please explain...thanks. blessings Renu , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Seniors, > > Why this event not occurred at rahu\saturn\mercury, instead of > rahu\mercury\saturn ? > Here saturn (6,7L) is in Mrityubhag and with jupiter as 8th lord. Both > retro. > > What are the combination to get kill in a combat ? (war, attack or > murdered) > > In this case, it was the major role of Mars (accident, fights) than > saturn (disease). > > Mercury with mars (mars is bhadhakesh and Mahabhadhakesh as highlighted > by Srennadhji as per Prashna Marg) in Kumbh (natural bhadhakesh)??? > > Does lagna with less than 10 degree explain it in a more better way ? > > Please explain ? > > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > > > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts > from > > each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead > > to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue > > > > Neelamji > > > > Leo lagna hemmed between malefics > > > > Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the > > possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver, > > spleen, RBCs, > > > > > > > > Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates > > hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas > and > > disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a > killer > > combination which can even strike a healthy native.. > > > > True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of > > RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!! > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or > > Kidney failure could be there. > > > > True- the brain was involved > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram Srinivas > > > > The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, > Capricon > > sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with > > other planets, possible for some physical handicap. > > > > > > > > True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self > > > > > > > > Sathyanarayana Gupta > > > > it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa - > > 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - > Aayu > > (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for > > consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by > > 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death > > embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa > sequence. > > > > > > > > This is a very good explanation to determine longevity > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjeevji > > > > Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thus > > disease could be related with blood. > > > > > > > > True- Blood could have been involved > > > > Gopuji > > > > > > > > the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu. > > > > My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a > > > > reduction in RBC's , > > > > > > > > True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved > > > > > > > > Gaurav Gosh > > > > The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden, > > > > True- It was a sort of sudden death > > > > > > > > This is what had happened that day: > > > > The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him > > several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far > > causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to > almost > > instant death. > > > > Regards, > > > > bhagavathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Vijay ji, Ra-Sa is 3/11 houses apart while Ra-Me are 8/6 apart whicn is worse than 3/11 (Ra-Sa). Here if Sa is Maraka becuse of ownership of 7H, the Me is also maraka becuase of 2HL. Beside Me is in nakshatra of Ra while sa is in nakshatra of Mo. This too might have played role. Thus AD of Me is more appropriate. As regards with PD, it could have been Ra, as Ra is at 6/8 with AD lord Me and it is lord of 7H and posited in 12H. second best option was Sa being 8/6 from AD lord Me, posited in 2H and has lordship of 7H. However, Sa is more qualified, because 7H has 2 lordships, that of Sa and Ra, but Sa is more powerful as it is in conjuct with Ju, while Ra is alone. Perhaps due to that account, and Sa being additionall poisted in 2H, PD of Sa happened. Regards, sanjeev , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Seniors, > > Why this event not occurred at rahu\saturn\mercury, instead of > rahu\mercury\saturn ? > Here saturn (6,7L) is in Mrityubhag and with jupiter as 8th lord. Both > retro. > > What are the combination to get kill in a combat ? (war, attack or > murdered) > > In this case, it was the major role of Mars (accident, fights) than > saturn (disease). > > Mercury with mars (mars is bhadhakesh and Mahabhadhakesh as highlighted > by Srennadhji as per Prashna Marg) in Kumbh (natural bhadhakesh)??? > > Does lagna with less than 10 degree explain it in a more better way ? > > Please explain ? > > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > > > --- In , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts > from > > each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead > > to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue > > > > Neelamji > > > > Leo lagna hemmed between malefics > > > > Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the > > possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver, > > spleen, RBCs, > > > > > > > > Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates > > hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas > and > > disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a > killer > > combination which can even strike a healthy native.. > > > > True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of > > RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!! > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or > > Kidney failure could be there. > > > > True- the brain was involved > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram Srinivas > > > > The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, > Capricon > > sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with > > other planets, possible for some physical handicap. > > > > > > > > True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self > > > > > > > > Sathyanarayana Gupta > > > > it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa - > > 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - > Aayu > > (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for > > consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by > > 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death > > embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa > sequence. > > > > > > > > This is a very good explanation to determine longevity > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjeevji > > > > Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thus > > disease could be related with blood. > > > > > > > > True- Blood could have been involved > > > > Gopuji > > > > > > > > the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu. > > > > My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a > > > > reduction in RBC's , > > > > > > > > True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved > > > > > > > > Gaurav Gosh > > > > The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden, > > > > True- It was a sort of sudden death > > > > > > > > This is what had happened that day: > > > > The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him > > several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far > > causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to > almost > > instant death. > > > > Regards, > > > > bhagavathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear All,Principles of Laghu Parashari may be seen for correct judgment about dashaphal of planets. They are seen to be most accurate.According to LP, Lord of 2 is the most powerful killer, next to him planets associated with it. Lesser to him the lord of 7 and next the malefics associated with him. Death takes place during the dasha of the strongest amongst these or during the MD of 12L and sub periods of markesh. Here mercury antar is more qualified as it is 2L and also stronger as it is in a fixed sign and aspects lagna. Though marak has been mercury, it is possible that sat antar and mer pratyantar might have given some problem. Would request Bhagavati ji to confirm if possible. Any sambandh beween the two markas, is sure to produce the marak effect. In this case, it is a parivartana between 2-7 lords and their malificence amplified by their other lordships of trishadaya houses.Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Mrs. bhagavathi hariharan, thanks for the answer and also it was a good educative analysis. My query is as per B.V.raman's predictive astro if 8th house is occupied by malefics then the death will be due to grave disease or violent happenings such as accident, murder or suicide. In this native's case only jupiter is aspecting its own house and rahu is in 12th and aspecting 8th house. even 22nd drekkana doesnt indicate death due to violence. in addition mars is also not involved. I wud request learned members to enlighten as to why this has happened. regards, k.gopu--- On Sun, 2/22/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan Quiz- Cause of death/ Answer Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 1:57 AM Dear all, I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts from each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue Neelamji Leo lagna hemmed between malefics Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver, spleen, RBCs, Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas and disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a killer combination which can even strike a healthy native.. True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!! Vijay Goel Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or Kidney failure could be there. True- the brain was involved Sreeram Srinivas The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, Capricon sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with other planets, possible for some physical handicap. True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self Sathyanarayana Gupta it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa - 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - Aayu (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa sequence. This is a very good explanation to determine longevity Sanjeevji Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thusdisease could be related with blood. True- Blood could have been involved Gopuji the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu. My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a reduction in RBC's , True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved Gaurav Gosh The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden, True- It was a sort of sudden death This is what had happened that day: The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to almost instant death. Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Gopuji, If we see from moon lagna, then the native's 8H is directly asoected by malefic mars and the 8H is also under PKY. The lagna PKY is significant in thius chart. In the chart of Mahatma Gandhi also there is a PKY. If we get a chance, we could analyze several such cases of unexpected violent death and then come t a conclusion Regards, bhagavathi , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > Dear Mrs. bhagavathi hariharan, > thanks for the answer and also it was a good educative analysis. > My query is as per B.V.raman's predictive astro if 8th house is > occupied by malefics then the death will be due to grave disease or > violent happenings such as accident, murder or suicide. > In this native's case only jupiter is aspecting its own house and rahu is > in 12th and aspecting 8th house. even 22nd drekkana doesnt indicate > death due to violence. in addition mars is also not involved. > I wud request learned members to enlighten as to why this has happened. > > regards, > k.gopu > > > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan > Quiz- Cause of death/ Answer > > Sunday, February 22, 2009, 1:57 AM > > Dear all, > I thank all those for participating in the quiz. Below are excerpts from each person's analysis, I found interesting to the event that lead to the death of the native. Please find my comments in blue > Neelamji > Leo lagna hemmed between malefics > > Affliction to virgo and Capricorn with jup and ven also indicates the possible malfunctioning of abdominal organs on the side, may be liver, spleen, RBCs, > > > Death happened in the dasha of Ra-Me-Sa. Rahu in 12H indicates hopitalisation, Mer (2,11 lord) and Saturn (6,7 lord), both marakas and disease karaks in exchange in maraksthans in Rahu's dasha form a killer combination which can even strike a healthy native.. > True- Papkartari of Lagna is an important aspect. The involvement of RBCs could have been there. The native was healthy!!! > Vijay Goel > Since 2nd house and 6th house is seriously effected.Brain tumor or Kidney failure could be there. > True- the brain was involved > > > Sreeram Srinivas > The native's birth in 12HL Moon dasha , which is placed in 6H, Capricon sign, in Rahu Ketu axis, indicates a sick mind its conjunction with other planets, possible for some physical handicap. > > True- you thought of the mind and some harm to the physical self > > Sathyanarayana Gupta > it could be observed that the above culprits are in maaraka sthaanaa - 2nd,7th and 12th houses.The native falls in the bracket of ALPHA - Aayu (khau~maara arishtaa) longivity upto 32 yrs[thumb rules used for consideration 1st and 8th lords disposition and strengths exerted by 1st,8th and 10th lords]- 3rd dasa is considered as Maarak - death embraced the native in Rahu dasa which ranked 3rd in his dasa sequence. > > > This is a very good explanation to determine longevity > > > Sanjeevji > Ju is spoied by presence of sa and Ra in D-6 and D-30, thus > disease could be related with blood. > > > True- Blood could have been involved > Gopuji > > the native's lagna is hemmed between saturn and rahu. > My guess is spleen must have been affected thereby causing a > reduction in RBC's , > > True- papakartari is important. RBCs could have been involved > > Gaurav Gosh > The death seems to have occurred all of a sudden, > True- It was a sort of sudden death > > This is what had happened that day: > The boy was murdered when attacked by three strangers who hit him several times. The blows caused his head to extend backwards too far causing an artery at the base of his brain to rupture leading to almost instant death. > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Neelamji, I will contact the family of the native and find out whether anyhting happened during sat AD. Regards, bhagavathi , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Principles of Laghu Parashari may be seen for correct judgment about > dashaphal of planets. They are seen to be most accurate. > > According to LP, Lord of 2 is the most powerful killer, next to him planets > associated with it. Lesser to him the lord of 7 and next the malefics > associated with him. Death takes place during the dasha of the strongest > amongst these or during the MD of 12L and sub periods of markesh. Here > mercury antar is more qualified as it is 2L and also stronger as it is in a > fixed sign and aspects lagna. Though marak has been mercury, it is possible > that sat antar and mer pratyantar might have given some problem. Would > request Bhagavati ji to confirm if possible. > > Any sambandh beween the two markas, is sure to produce the marak effect. In > this case, it is a parivartana between 2-7 lords and their malificence > amplified by their other lordships of trishadaya houses. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Neelamji, True. We indeed have a long way to go. When I first got this chart, I was not able to tell either. Like Goelji and Renuji have put, we need to study further to identify the cause as whether it is due to a disease, murder, accident etc. Just last year, two indian students in the US were murdered for no apparent reason. some unidentified men asked them for money, they did not have, so the strangers were annoyed and shot them to death instantaneously. My ancestors could warm ahead of some disaster during a particular time. One of my uncles (he is no more) locked himself up inside the house for one month because he felt that a violent incident was possible with him. The last day of his calculated time, he skid in the bathroom and fractured his left side of the body. He was bedridden for one month. Did astrology help him in minimize the evil effects. I often wonder. Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Neelam ji, According to LP (as quoted in urs post), then Ra is not most powerful maraka, but Me is. Reasons: 1. Me is more powerful as it is in conjuct with Ma. Ra ia alone. 2. Me is in friends house, while Ra is in enemy's house. 3. Me is 2 HL, while Ra 7HL (also mentioned in urs mail) The question is then, According to LP, Me is most powerful maraka. Hence why Ra MD, and not Me MD? According to various dictum, many planets qualify to become Marakas, but only one of them produce maraka effects. Regrds, sanjeev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Principles of Laghu Parashari may be seen for correct judgment about > dashaphal of planets. They are seen to be most accurate. > > According to LP, Lord of 2 is the most powerful killer, next to him planets > associated with it. Lesser to him the lord of 7 and next the malefics > associated with him. Death takes place during the dasha of the strongest > amongst these or during the MD of 12L and sub periods of markesh. Here > mercury antar is more qualified as it is 2L and also stronger as it is in a > fixed sign and aspects lagna. Though marak has been mercury, it is possible > that sat antar and mer pratyantar might have given some problem. Would > request Bhagavati ji to confirm if possible. > > Any sambandh beween the two markas, is sure to produce the marak effect. In > this case, it is a parivartana between 2-7 lords and their malificence > amplified by their other lordships of trishadaya houses. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Sanjeev ji,It is true that many planets may qualify to become marakas and it is also true that none of them may kill the native prematurely and he dies a natural death after enjoying a deerghayu.Thus, after one ascertains the basic longevity composition of the chart, we may apply these principles. E.g if a chart is balarishta, one looks for marak dasha sequence in childhood, for alpaayu, we look for such a dasha around 25-40 years, so on and so forth. 6/8/12 dashas set the adverse trend in any chart. Of these 12 indicates end, so is worse. It is also true that the planets produce their results in their own antars or the antars of planets having sambandh with them. So antar is most potent opportunity for a planet to show its prowess. Here in this case, if it is a chart of alpayu, Rahu between 26-42 years sets a dasha which can be bad. Rahu in 12H is in inimical sign will give bad results of 12H and 12L moon. If you read the full ayurdadhyaya 3, of LP you will find that an antar of 2L is a maraka in the MD of 12L. And we know that rahu amplifies the role of house/planet it is associated with. Saturns pratyantar provides the final link. Whenever all three MD-AD-PD show bad houses, results are bound to be inauspicious. Other members may give their opinion.RegardsNeelam2009/2/22 sanjeev_its1989 <sanjeev_its1989 Neelam ji, According to LP (as quoted in urs post), then Ra is not most powerful maraka, but Me is. Reasons: 1. Me is more powerful as it is in conjuct with Ma. Ra ia alone. 2. Me is in friends house, while Ra is in enemy's house. 3. Me is 2 HL, while Ra 7HL (also mentioned in urs mail) The question is then, According to LP, Me is most powerful maraka. Hence why Ra MD, and not Me MD? According to various dictum, many planets qualify to become Marakas, but only one of them produce maraka effects. Regrds, sanjeev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Principles of Laghu Parashari may be seen for correct judgment about > dashaphal of planets. They are seen to be most accurate. > > According to LP, Lord of 2 is the most powerful killer, next to him planets > associated with it. Lesser to him the lord of 7 and next the malefics > associated with him. Death takes place during the dasha of the strongest > amongst these or during the MD of 12L and sub periods of markesh. Here > mercury antar is more qualified as it is 2L and also stronger as it is in a > fixed sign and aspects lagna. Though marak has been mercury, it is possible > that sat antar and mer pratyantar might have given some problem. Would > request Bhagavati ji to confirm if possible. > > Any sambandh beween the two markas, is sure to produce the marak effect. In > this case, it is a parivartana between 2-7 lords and their malificence > amplified by their other lordships of trishadaya houses. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear all, Following is the birth details of another native July 23, 1972; 1.50PM, Maler Kotla, India This man faced an attempt on his life on Aug 14, 2007 between 10.30PM and 11.00PM, in US. He was nabbed by three strangers, they atacked him on his head. The right side of his head and eye was injured. He was hospitalized but survived. I have put this chart. It might be helpful to understand when a violent incident as this happens to an individual. Maybe Neelamji can initiate a discussion on this with her vast knowledge. Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Namaste Bhagavathi ji, Was the native attacked and murdered.... akin to numerous New York late evening / midnight street robberies ?? or was there any cause involved....?? With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear Sreeramji, The boy was spending his time late night on the beach with friends, which is common in that age group. The gang that attacked him were complete strangers. So this is indeed akin to the late night robberies. Regards, bhagavathi , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Bhagavathi ji, > > Was the native attacked and murdered.... akin to numerous New York late > evening / midnight street robberies ?? or was there any cause > involved....?? > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear Bhagavati ji,//Maybe Neelamji can initiate a discussion on this with her vast knowledge.//There appears to be a mistake here. Let me put it correctly, 'with limited knowledge of the vast subject'. Sharing some very basic observations which always ring a bell and demand close scrutiny. When most of these points are seen to coexist in a chart, there might be some adverse event in store.Lagna lord connected with 6/8/12, of these, placement of LL in trik houses/trik lords in lagna, is the worst. If a primary marak/badhakesh is associated, it can do more harm. Aspect of mars on lagna, and if mars is weak functional malefic/marak, it is worse. In association with sun, mer and nodes, it spells terror. If Saturn joins hands, it makes the situation worse.3/8 houses, if occupied by malefics/functional malefics bring sudden problems. If a planet is double marak, like mars in libra and venus in aries, it is most dangerous.Affliction to watery signs is generally a sign of trouble, specially if lagna/LL is involved. Besides being vulnerable to diseases, scorpio and pisces are natural 8/12 houses. If most of the planets are posited in 6/8 positions from one another, it creates problems.Dashas play an important role in timing of the event. Dashas of functional malefics bring problems, and if they are posited in trik/dustanas, the problems become serious. When all three, MD-AD-PD are adverse, one has to be cautious. If these dasha lords are also afflict the 22DK/64NV or are in MB degress etc, the swing is towards inauspiciousness.The observations should be substantiated and moderated with navamsha reading. Bad transits aggravate the adversity shown by the dasha.Death is very difficult to predict, but general indication can be seen from PAM method and other arishta combinations.We can apply these general principles to the chart given by Bhagavati ji and trace the event. Learned members may feel free to add further to this. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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