KP

[Guest guest]

Debra, big questions!! I'm going to be away until Thursday, but I'll try

one or two answers now.

 

Re: Moon in Taurus, if you're thinking Jyotish/Vedic, the lunar mansion

(nakshatra) is going to be more important than the sign. Most important of

all are the planetary aspects to the Moon. Also the Moon sign and hard

aspects (square and opposition) in the navamsa chart. And the dispositor of

the Moon... (Why does astrology have to be so complicated?)

 

I use the Rashi chart for yogas (as the lord of 5th is in the 9th (sign). I

use the equal house-cusp at the center bhava system for a planet's position

in a house.

 

KP is a specialized study. In my opinion it's best to get a good grounding

in Jyotish first, although one principle of KP that seems to be important

is using the nakshatra lords in delineating Dasas. As an example, suppose

you are running the Moon's bhukti, and the Moon is in a mansion of Jupiter.

Then you look at Jupiter to see how the bhukti period will be going. But

it's also important whether the Moon is in a good or bad house (according

to Jyotish).

 

Well, I suppose this is a small start...Thanks for your introduction!

 

Yes, mythology is fascinating, and it really fits in the sidereal

zodiac--in my opinion anyway. Since the mythology is Greek, it isn't really

part of Jyotish, although the 12 sign zodiac in India came from the

Greek/Arabic world. India lined up its own gods and goddesses with the

nakshatras and planets. Saturn is Shiva, for example. But for us in the

west--even if we use India's astrology, I think the western myths are

better. They explain a lot more about the zodiac.

 

Blessings,

Therese

 

At 09:27 PM 5/11/04 -0000, you wrote:

>I have a question:

>

>Therese and all others:

>

>What is the significance in using KP vs. vedic principal soley in

>delineation and interpetation?

>

>How does one breakdown the navamsa or other varga charts and blend

>it with the Rashi?

>

>How many use the Bhava house system vs. the Rashi?

>

>Vimshottari Dasa vs. progressions for prediction of events?

>

>How does one go about finding children and grandchildren in a chart?

>

>Dates for various events like Marriage etc?

>

>

>Debra

[Guest guest]

Hello Dear Therese and Debra,

 

Yes, I too love mythology. I really can't speak in terms of a comparison of the myths of western and India's mythology, Therese. Just want to say though that the myths in Jyotish and in learning and teaching Jyotish are actually very important and in explaining the zodiac- in my opinion. Another extremely important aspect of Jyotish is the Jyotir Vidya, which is explained well in Hart Defouw and Robert Svoboda's wonderful book, "Light on Life." Really a must read, a lot more depth than many of the beginner or basic books on Jyotish in terms of understanding the values and traditions and deeper meanings of practicing Jyotish.

 

Over this past year, I hunger for, and cannot get my hands on enough materials sharing all the myths and information of the gods of the nakshatras, etc.. I did a chart not too long ago, blind chart, just using the gods and the translations of the nakshatras, and the myths, and was able to see that this was a case of conjoined girls. These myths come alive and have very important and deep meanings in really understanding Jyotish. Had I been sharper on doing this chart, I would even have been able to see they were conjoined at the heart via this same route.

 

There is so much to learn and gain in understanding and practicing Jyotish, but I would have to say that my learning of these myths and the gods and the meanings and stories with the gods has been one of the most valuable assets I have gained in doing Jyotish. I still have to look up so much each time but continue to get more and more this way and would recommend for anyone beginning Jyotish not to pass this up. Had we all been learning Jyotish at the side of a Master, as was intended, we would be getting these deeper meanings in our beginning studies.

 

Jyotish is one of the six disciplines called Vedangas (Limbs of the Veda), given by the rishis or Seers who divinely cognized the Vedas. When the Veda is personified as a living being, Jyotish is the eyes. Each Vedanga is a living being. These beings are termed 'vidyas'. As quoted in Defouw and Svaboda's book: "Every 'vidya' is a goddess who must be worshipped in order that you and she may develop a personal relationship so profound that she can possess you. Jyotish is the Jyotir Vidya (the Lore of Light), a vidya which can be had only from jyotishis, because Jyotish is the study of all facets of the 'lords of light': the Sun, Moon, planets and stars."

 

I believe from a completely eastern and Jyotish standpoint, the seers or rishis cognized the vedas and Jyotish itself.

 

All kindest thoughts and regards,

Patrice

 

 

 

____________

Yes, mythology is fascinating, and it really fits in the siderealzodiac--in my opinion anyway. Since the mythology is Greek, it isn't reallypart of Jyotish, although the 12 sign zodiac in India came from theGreek/Arabic world. India lined up its own gods and goddesses with thenakshatras and planets. Saturn is Shiva, for example. But for us in thewest--even if we use India's astrology, I think the western myths arebetter. They explain a lot more about the zodiac. Blessings,Therese

[Guest guest]

Dear Rao

I am not the moderator of the group. He will take a decision soon, and

intimate to you.

He is a very careful man.

 

Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote:

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste Anant Ji,

 

Thanks for the suggesting the K_P_System . I did joined in the

group few days ago and did not got approval to become a member of this group

yet.

 

Can you please look at my request and approve my request. If you are not the

moderator/owner of this group, you may please pass my request to that person.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

 

anant raichur <raichurar wrote:

Dear Mr Rao

 

If you want to study KP methods, you should join K_P_Systems @.

You will get all information you want, Books to read, free sw to cast charts,

etc.

 

good luck

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Your membership has been approved. Welcome to the forum.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

On 5/2/06, anant raichur <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Rao

> I am not the moderator of the group. He will take a decision soon, and

> intimate to you.

> He is a very careful man.

>

> Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Namaste Anant Ji,

>

> Thanks for the suggesting the K_P_System . I did joined in the

> group few days ago and did not got approval to become a member of this group

> yet.

>

> Can you please look at my request and approve my request. If you are not

> the moderator/owner of this group, you may please pass my request to that

> person.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

>

>

> anant raichur <raichurar wrote:

> Dear Mr Rao

>

> If you want to study KP methods, you should join K_P_Systems @

> . You will get all information you want, Books to read,

> free sw to cast charts, etc.

>

> good luck

>

>

>

>

> Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

>

>

>

 

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates

> starting at 1¢/min.

>

>

>

> Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Souvik ji,

This link is not opening, but I have read his write-up few months ago.

We can discuss this anywhere you wish to, and here too .

You may visit this link which is educative.

http://logy.astrosage.com/Home

regards/Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

I have uploaded the pdf as BTRUsingKPbyRRN.pdf in the Files>Articles

and EBook section.

 

Thanks for sharing the link.

 

Whenever you are able to, please do let me know your views on the

method of Rectification described in the document.

 

I had a few questions on the Time charts R.P. Will share with you once

you had a look at the pdf.

 

Thanks

 

Souvik

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Souvik ji,

>

> This link is not opening, but I have read his write-up few months ago.

>

> We can discuss this anywhere you wish to, and here too .

>

> You may visit this link which is educative.

>

> http://logy.astrosage.com/Home

> <http://logy.astrosage.com/Home>

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

, " Souvik Dutta "

> <explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar-ji,

> >

> > I am a KP student. I would like to discuss with you Birth Time

> > rectification. Please do let me know if you think we could use this

> > forum or some other for the same.

> >

> > I am not sure if Raghunath Rao-ji is a member of this forum but I

> > found a very interesting write-up of his on BT.

> >

> > If you do get, please do have a look.

> >

> > http://www.prashna-

> > astrology.com/resources/Rectification+of+Birth+Time+Using+KP+by+Raghun

> > atha+Rao+Nemani.PDF

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Souvik

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Mr. Vishal,

> > >

> > > Have you rectified the Birth time primarily, which is the basic

> > > requirement of KP ?

> > >

> > > If so, then please produce the rectification report here.

> > >

> > > If not, then no use talking about subLords in this example.

> > >

> > > Next please give us the complete statistics on Board with the

> > Planetary

> > > degrees and their StarLords and SubLords and their significators.

> > >

> > > I would like to discuss Cuspal Interlinks with you in a detailed

> > manner.

> > >

> > > In the meanwhile you have not been able to explain any single

> > method,

> > > all of wjich have been made a " khichdi " here, but ineefectively.

> > You

> > > think you have used Nadi, Ashtakvarga, KP,Parshari, all , but

> > actually

> > > not shown a single rule being applied.

> > >

> > > Your KP renderation here is all " bakwaas " which I shall prove you

> > once

> > > you began discussing with me.

> > >

> > > You have in your first mail itself in the group, shown disrespect

> > to a

> > > senior. So I must now prove to you what a senior is, by actually

> > > discussing astrologically with you.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vishalastrologer "

> > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Members,

> > > >

> > > > myself kunwar vishal.going to

> > > > analyse the chart with logic under CUSPAL INTERLINK THEORY which i

> > > > learnt from madurai in 2006.parashri method from my loving guru in

> > > 1996

> > > > to 1998.lal kitab from 2000 to till today try to uderstand & try

> > to

> > > > learn every method of .well ,.come to the

> > > > chart.first of all keep in yur mind all we r

> > > >

> > > > students and till the end of life we will remain students.always

> > > > learner.all the students of astrology know that person can sick

> > only

> > > in

> > > > that condition if his dasa or bhukti or antra should link with 6th

> > > house

> > > > if person;s lagan has link with 6th house then potenial of kundli

> > is

> > > > weak regarding health.example chart asc sublord is venus,which is

> > in

> > > > jupitar star(6th house sub lord)

> > > >

> > > > means asc is going to sick or we can say body's resistance power

> > is

> > > weak

> > > > further jupiter is 8th house's & 12th house's star lord.so lagan

> > has

> > > > linked with 6th(house of diseases) 8th (house of major diseases)

> > 12th

> > > > (house of hospital )so lagan has proved he is going to trouble to

> > the

> > > > native but this is hint only not sure that will only after

> > lagan's sub

> > > > lord in which sub.it is in saturn sub which is 6th house lord so

> > all

> > > > this matter which show by star lord now confirm by sub lord.now

> > see

> > > the

> > > > dasa lord which is the 6th house's sub lord and in the star of

> > again

> > > 6th

> > > > house sub lord means in his own star in the sub of saturn(long

> > > > diseases).so dasa has proved that jupiter has the authority of

> > 6,8,12

> > > > houses.now come to the bhukti at this time moon bhukti is running

> > > .moon

> > > > is in mars's star which is 3,7,11 house which show no disease but

> > moon

> > > > is in the sub of jupiter so again moon has link with 6,8,12.becaz

> > star

> > > > is the indicator final decession by sub only.in other words we

> > can say

> > > > star purposes sub disposes.so treatment will b going on(11th

> > house )

> > > but

> > > > will not give proper relief(6,8,12)next bhukti of mars is in ketu

> > > > star.ketu is 5th & 8th house sub lord & 1st house's star

> > lord .link

> > > > showed by star 1,5,8.in this link 1,5 is good but 1,8 is bad but

> > final

> > > > decession is by sub in which bhukti lord's places .mars in saturn

> > sub

> > > > again 6th house but placed in 11th house.so again little recovery

> > may

> > > b

> > > > seen.but not recovery.next rahu bhukti which is in mercury star

> > 2,7,11

> > > > means markesh and in the sub of rahu 3,9,12 house's sub lord 9

> > means

> > > > badhak,12 means exit .according to nadi principles JUP is retro

> > first

> > > 12

> > > > years in taurus next 12 to 24 in aries ,next 12 to 36 years in

> > pisces,

> > > > next 36 to 48 in aquarius . in 37 th year jup will b in RAHU(KAAL

> > KA

> > > > MUKH) at that period dasa will b also chhidra dasa.if we talk of

> > > > ashtakvarga that will b same rather it is cancer lagan.only

> > singular

> > > > method cannot help the astrologer to define the event.becaz not a

> > > > singular method has its all components.a person's lagan sub lord

> > has

> > > > link with 6,8 ,12 house he has to suffer a lot like this.

> > > >

> > > > with regards

> > > >

> > > > Kunwar Vishal(a student of astrology)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

In Horary KP, when we get the KP number and cast the Horary Chart

there is a way to determine even before we start the analysis to see

if it is the right time to proceed/if the query was a geniuine one.

 

However, what I wanted to discuss with you was that in BT

Recitification is it possible to determine if we can proceed or not

by casting teh Time chart?

 

Regards,

 

Souvik

 

, " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar-ji,

>

> I have uploaded the pdf as BTRUsingKPbyRRN.pdf in the Files>Articles

> and EBook section.

>

> Thanks for sharing the link.

>

> Whenever you are able to, please do let me know your views on the

> method of Rectification described in the document.

>

> I had a few questions on the Time charts R.P. Will share with you

once

> you had a look at the pdf.

>

> Thanks

>

> Souvik

> , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Souvik ji,

> >

> > This link is not opening, but I have read his write-up few months

ago.

> >

> > We can discuss this anywhere you wish to, and here too .

> >

> > You may visit this link which is educative.

> >

> > http://logy.astrosage.com/Home

> > <http://logy.astrosage.com/Home>

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Souvik Dutta "

> > <explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar-ji,

> > >

> > > I am a KP student. I would like to discuss with you Birth Time

> > > rectification. Please do let me know if you think we could use

this

> > > forum or some other for the same.

> > >

> > > I am not sure if Raghunath Rao-ji is a member of this forum but

I

> > > found a very interesting write-up of his on BT.

> > >

> > > If you do get, please do have a look.

> > >

> > > http://www.prashna-

> > >

astrology.com/resources/Rectification+of+Birth+Time+Using+KP+by+Raghun

> > > atha+Rao+Nemani.PDF

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Souvik

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Vishal,

> > > >

> > > > Have you rectified the Birth time primarily, which is the

basic

> > > > requirement of KP ?

> > > >

> > > > If so, then please produce the rectification report here.

> > > >

> > > > If not, then no use talking about subLords in this example.

> > > >

> > > > Next please give us the complete statistics on Board with the

> > > Planetary

> > > > degrees and their StarLords and SubLords and their

significators.

> > > >

> > > > I would like to discuss Cuspal Interlinks with you in a

detailed

> > > manner.

> > > >

> > > > In the meanwhile you have not been able to explain any single

> > > method,

> > > > all of wjich have been made a " khichdi " here, but

ineefectively.

> > > You

> > > > think you have used Nadi, Ashtakvarga, KP,Parshari, all , but

> > > actually

> > > > not shown a single rule being applied.

> > > >

> > > > Your KP renderation here is all " bakwaas " which I shall prove

you

> > > once

> > > > you began discussing with me.

> > > >

> > > > You have in your first mail itself in the group, shown

disrespect

> > > to a

> > > > senior. So I must now prove to you what a senior is, by

actually

> > > > discussing astrologically with you.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " vishalastrologer "

> > > > <vishalastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > myself kunwar vishal.going to

> > > > > analyse the chart with logic under CUSPAL INTERLINK THEORY

which i

> > > > > learnt from madurai in 2006.parashri method from my loving

guru in

> > > > 1996

> > > > > to 1998.lal kitab from 2000 to till today try to uderstand

& try

> > > to

> > > > > learn every method of .well ,.come

to the

> > > > > chart.first of all keep in yur mind all we r

> > > > >

> > > > > students and till the end of life we will remain

students.always

> > > > > learner.all the students of astrology know that person can

sick

> > > only

> > > > in

> > > > > that condition if his dasa or bhukti or antra should link

with 6th

> > > > house

> > > > > if person;s lagan has link with 6th house then potenial of

kundli

> > > is

> > > > > weak regarding health.example chart asc sublord is

venus,which is

> > > in

> > > > > jupitar star(6th house sub lord)

> > > > >

> > > > > means asc is going to sick or we can say body's resistance

power

> > > is

> > > > weak

> > > > > further jupiter is 8th house's & 12th house's star lord.so

lagan

> > > has

> > > > > linked with 6th(house of diseases) 8th (house of major

diseases)

> > > 12th

> > > > > (house of hospital )so lagan has proved he is going to

trouble to

> > > the

> > > > > native but this is hint only not sure that will only after

> > > lagan's sub

> > > > > lord in which sub.it is in saturn sub which is 6th house

lord so

> > > all

> > > > > this matter which show by star lord now confirm by sub

lord.now

> > > see

> > > > the

> > > > > dasa lord which is the 6th house's sub lord and in the star

of

> > > again

> > > > 6th

> > > > > house sub lord means in his own star in the sub of saturn

(long

> > > > > diseases).so dasa has proved that jupiter has the authority

of

> > > 6,8,12

> > > > > houses.now come to the bhukti at this time moon bhukti is

running

> > > > .moon

> > > > > is in mars's star which is 3,7,11 house which show no

disease but

> > > moon

> > > > > is in the sub of jupiter so again moon has link with

6,8,12.becaz

> > > star

> > > > > is the indicator final decession by sub only.in other words

we

> > > can say

> > > > > star purposes sub disposes.so treatment will b going on(11th

> > > house )

> > > > but

> > > > > will not give proper relief(6,8,12)next bhukti of mars is

in ketu

> > > > > star.ketu is 5th & 8th house sub lord & 1st house's star

> > > lord .link

> > > > > showed by star 1,5,8.in this link 1,5 is good but 1,8 is

bad but

> > > final

> > > > > decession is by sub in which bhukti lord's places .mars in

saturn

> > > sub

> > > > > again 6th house but placed in 11th house.so again little

recovery

> > > may

> > > > b

> > > > > seen.but not recovery.next rahu bhukti which is in mercury

star

> > > 2,7,11

> > > > > means markesh and in the sub of rahu 3,9,12 house's sub

lord 9

> > > means

> > > > > badhak,12 means exit .according to nadi principles JUP is

retro

> > > first

> > > > 12

> > > > > years in taurus next 12 to 24 in aries ,next 12 to 36 years

in

> > > pisces,

> > > > > next 36 to 48 in aquarius . in 37 th year jup will b in RAHU

(KAAL

> > > KA

> > > > > MUKH) at that period dasa will b also chhidra dasa.if we

talk of

> > > > > ashtakvarga that will b same rather it is cancer lagan.only

> > > singular

> > > > > method cannot help the astrologer to define the event.becaz

not a

> > > > > singular method has its all components.a person's lagan sub

lord

> > > has

> > > > > link with 6,8 ,12 house he has to suffer a lot like this.

> > > > >

> > > > > with regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Kunwar Vishal(a student of astrology)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Souvik ji,

 

I have answered your query in the KP Group, where you have put this

query too. I did not keep a copy with me, or else I would have pasted it

here too.

 

regards/Bhaskar.