Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Learned people, It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart. What might be the reasons for the above statement. Warm Regards, Amit Nakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Amit, Let me put the question other way... " It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart. " Where is it said??Who said it?? Thank you, Gaurav. , " Amit Nakai " <amit.nakai wrote: > > Dear Learned people, > > It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart. > What might be the reasons for the above statement. > > > Warm Regards, > Amit Nakai > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Namaste, Sloka 4 Jataka Chandrika reiterate 11th lord as malefic/ paapi. My Jyotish Balapada(could not remember where it is exactly stated) envisage waning as malefic paapi and waning Moon from Chadurthasi to Ammavasya considered as cshina Chandr more malefic. Regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. --- Amit Nakai <amit.nakai wrote: > Dear Learned people, > > It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is > inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon > might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart. > What might be the reasons for the above statement. > > > Warm Regards, > Amit Nakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Yes, Moon as 11th Lord is considered inauspicious perhaps for a very simple reason - the lagna is a " cold " lagna with moon being the 'giver' makes it very unlikely for accomplishment of an enterprise. However, it is not true to say that moon is inauspcious irrespective of its place or characteristic. For eg, a purna chandra will certainly be beneficial. So does moon aspected by Mars or Jupiter. On the other hand, a declining moon in nodes(ie in deb or exalt) can prove to be quite unmanageable. My two pence. regards, Kishore patnaik On 2/1/09, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: Namaste, Sloka 4 Jataka Chandrika reiterate 11th lord as malefic/ paapi. My Jyotish Balapada(could not remember where it is exactly stated) envisage waning as malefic paapi and waning Moon from Chadurthasi to Ammavasya considered as cshina Chandr more malefic. Regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. --- Amit Nakai <amit.nakai wrote: > Dear Learned people, > > It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is > inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon > might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart. > What might be the reasons for the above statement. > > > Warm Regards, > Amit Nakai -- Should you find yourself the victim of other people's bitterness, ignorance, smallness or insecurities, remember things could have been worse – you could be one of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Amit ji,BPHS states that lords of trishadaya i.e 3,6,11 give evil effects or are inauspicious. Of the three, lord of 11H is called the most evil. This is irrespective of the placement of the 11L. Moon is not isolated in being inauspicious as lord of 11H. All planets are. This gives us an idea about the functional nature of a planet for a particular ascendant. e.g moon is 11L only for virgo lagna for which it is considered to be a functional malefic despite its good placement. Can you please specify or quote your reference? RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Gupta ji, The fourth Sloka in Jathaka chandrika reads as follows: PASYANTHI SAPTHAMAM SARVE SANIJEEVAKUJAA: PUNA : | VISESHASTHASCHA THRIDHASA THRIKONACHADURASRAGAA (KA) EN || 'JATHAKA CHANDRIKA' || There is no reference in this sloka on 11th Lord. perhaps there must be some other Sloka you are referring too. Regards, A.V.Pathi, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 9:59:55 AMRe: Mo as 11th House Lord Namaste,Sloka 4 Jataka Chandrika reiterate 11th lord asmalefic/ paapi.My Jyotish Balapada(could not remember where it isexactly stated) envisage waning as malefic paapi and waning Moon from Chadurthasi to Ammavasya consideredas cshina Chandr more malefic.Regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.--- Amit Nakai <amit.nakai (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Learned people,> > It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is> inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon> might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart.> What might be the reasons for the above statement.> > > Warm Regards,> Amit Nakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Dear all, Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna natives. In the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as true, her moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon dasha was from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame, probably a golden period in her life. Regards, Bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Namaste,Shri.Venkatachalapathiji,I quote the relavant portions of Jaataka Chandrika available with me in portable document format.Chapter 1 – Subha-paapatvam (Benefic Malefic nature)Stanza 4sarve trikona netaaro grahah subhaphalapradaahpatayah trishadaayaanaam yati papaphalapradaahAll Trinal Lords(5,9) are benefic and give favourable results. Lords of 3, 6 and 11 give malefic results.I hope the above reference clarify you.With regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: Dear Gupta ji, The fourth Sloka in Jathaka chandrika reads as follows: PASYANTHI SAPTHAMAM SARVE SANIJEEVAKUJAA: PUNA : | VISESHASTHASCHA THRIDHASA THRIKONACHADURASRAGAA (KA) EN || 'JATHAKA CHANDRIKA' || There is no reference in this sloka on 11th Lord. perhaps there must be some other Sloka you are referring too. Regards, A.V.Pathi, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 > Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 9:59:55 AMRe: Mo as 11th House Lord Namaste,Sloka 4 Jataka Chandrika reiterate 11th lord asmalefic/ paapi.My Jyotish Balapada(could not remember where it isexactly stated) envisage waning as malefic paapi and waning Moon from Chadurthasi to Ammavasya consideredas cshina Chandr more malefic.Regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.--- Amit Nakai <amit.nakai (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Learned people,> > It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is> inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon> might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart.> What might be the reasons for the above statement.> > > Warm Regards,> Amit Nakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Ms.Harihan, Also Thomas Jefferson Hanks(Tom Hanks in short) the " The Da Vinci Code " famed of late, is also Kanya Lagna. He has moon in 11th house from Lagna. We know the his rise in fame from 2005 after release of that movie. Thank you, Gaurav. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear all, > > Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna natives. In > the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as true, her > moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon dasha was > from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame, probably a golden > period in her life. > > > > Regards, > Bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Dear Gupta ji, Thank you, and I got it. Please call me Pathi, in which name I am known. (after all I am just 79 years young !!) A.V.Pathi, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:29:01 PMRe: Mo as 11th House Lord Namaste,Shri.Venkatachalapa thiji,I quote the relavant portions of Jaataka Chandrika available with me in portable document format.Chapter 1 – Subha-paapatvam (Benefic Malefic nature)Stanza 4sarve trikona netaaro grahah subhaphalapradaahpatayah trishadaayaanaam yati papaphalapradaahAll Trinal Lords(5,9) are benefic and give favourable results. Lords of 3, 6 and 11 give malefic results.I hope the above reference clarify you.With regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: Dear Gupta ji, The fourth Sloka in Jathaka chandrika reads as follows: PASYANTHI SAPTHAMAM SARVE SANIJEEVAKUJAA: PUNA : | VISESHASTHASCHA THRIDHASA THRIKONACHADURASRAG AA (KA) EN || 'JATHAKA CHANDRIKA' || There is no reference in this sloka on 11th Lord. perhaps there must be some other Sloka you are referring too. Regards, A.V.Pathi, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 >ancient_indian_ astrologySunday, February 1, 2009 9:59:55 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Mo as 11th House Lord Namaste,Sloka 4 Jataka Chandrika reiterate 11th lord asmalefic/ paapi.My Jyotish Balapada(could not remember where it isexactly stated) envisage waning as malefic paapi and waning Moon from Chadurthasi to Ammavasya consideredas cshina Chandr more malefic.Regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.--- Amit Nakai <amit.nakai (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> Dear Learned people,> > It is said that Moon as 11th house Lord is> inauspicious, irrespective of the fact that Moon> might be placed anywhere in the Natal Rasi Chart.> What might be the reasons for the above statement.> > > Warm Regards,> Amit Nakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Namaste,Pathi's proud rests with Sathi's pride!May God bless you both with many more happy returns of the day (a day that sprinkled the feelings of ever green tree) !Sir,I am younger to you by a decade plus three yrs.With regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Learned Members,Trishadaya Lordship is said to be evil by Rishi Parashara. 3L and 11L can never have the other ownership of a trine for any lagna. But we also give due regards to labhesh all powerful and all planets are said to give good results in 11H. (remember Ravana wanted all planets in 11H for his son). They are also the upchay sthans. What kind of inauspiciousness is associated with 11L and when and how and do we see its manifestation? Please share your views.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Neelam Ji, I am will surely share the article where I read the same, however I am not able to find it. Bear with me, I will send the same. It also mentioned Ju's inauspiciousness as 11th Lord. Warm Regards Amit Nakai neelam gupta Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:37 PM Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Dear Amit ji,BPHS states that lords of trishadaya i.e 3,6,11 give evil effects or are inauspicious. Of the three, lord of 11H is called the most evil. This is irrespective of the placement of the 11L. Moon is not isolated in being inauspicious as lord of 11H. All planets are. This gives us an idea about the functional nature of a planet for a particular ascendant. e.g moon is 11L only for virgo lagna for which it is considered to be a functional malefic despite its good placement.Can you please specify or quote your reference? RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear All, For Mesha Lagna, (kalapurusha horoscope) the lord of 11th Saturn is also lord of Bahaka Sthan and thus (?) is debilitated in the Lagna. 11th is the 7th from the 5th It is also 8th from the 4th. Thanks & Regards Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 2/2/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re:Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Learned Members,Trishadaya Lordship is said to be evil by Rishi Parashara. 3L and 11L can never have the other ownership of a trine for any lagna. But we also give due regards to labhesh all powerful and all planets are said to give good results in 11H. (remember Ravana wanted all planets in 11H for his son). They are also the upchay sthans. What kind of inauspiciousness is associated with 11L and when and how and do we see its manifestation? Please share your views.RegardsNeelam Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Sathiyanarayana Gupta ji, The given quote (which states that all 3-6-11 lords are inauspicious) is applicable "only to Vimsottari Dasa result derivation", since the same is provided in the book Ududaya Pradeepam (alias Jataka Chandrika, Laghu Parasari etc) by venkatesha Pundit, which elaborates and clarifies the appilcation of Vimsottari Dasa provided by Sage Parasara in BPHS. The above quote applies to all the 11th lords whether it be Moon or any other planet. There is nothing specific in this sloka that connects Moon to this quote or as malefic when placed in 11th.Love and regards,Sreenadh , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote:>> Namaste,> > Shri.Venkatachalapathiji,> > I quote the relavant portions of Jaataka Chandrika available with me in portable document format.> > Chapter 1 – Subha-paapatvam (Benefic Malefic nature)> Stanza 4> sarve trikona netaaro grahah subhaphalapradaah> patayah trishadaayaanaam yati papaphalapradaah> All Trinal Lords(5,9) are benefic and give favourable results. Lords of 3, 6 and 11 give malefic results.> > I hope the above reference clarify you.> With regards,> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Members, With due regards I submit that " 3rd, 6Th,and 11Th lords give malefic results " is stated in Lag Parashari. All these house are included in Upachya houses also which means to give rise to the native. It appear as contradiction. Moreover 11th house is house of gain. How it can be malefic? So far as I understand that Sage Parashar has given two sides of each house.One is material and other is Jeeva. If you see each house in this prospective, there will not be any difficulty to understand the vimshottary dasha system. The 11th house is house of gain of material. As one gains in material, the native,the jeeva, suffers from mental and physical problems. 11th is 6th from 6th, diseases, debt, enemy litigation etc. 11th is 7th from 5th. He may have problems due to his children. So 11th house and its lord gives material but loss of mental and physical comfort also during its dasha and antar dasha. Now examine the status of Aishwarya Rai during that period, though shem may be having name and fame during the period of 11th lord as stated, but she must be have mental and physical problems also. It is my observation. Love and regards. --- On Sun, 2/1/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan > Re: Mo as 11th House Lord > > Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:53 PM > Dear all, > > Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna > natives. In > the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as > true, her > moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon > dasha was > from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame, > probably a golden > period in her life. > > > > Regards, > Bhagavathi > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Well said Kursija ji. Thank you for the informative note. If I may add to this:The horoscope stands on the tripod (1,5,9) of dharma. Through lordship, 11H has no connection with trines or dharma houses though it has the connections with kendras. So it reflects the gains through kendras and not through dharma. Gains through kendras are of temporary nature and do not contribute anything to the final journey of the soul. 11H is the house of desires and temptations which bind the individual and become the main cause of ego. This is the house which thus, negates the final emancipation or liberation by throwing the tempting challenges to drag the individual into the vicious circle of materialistic world. Hence, for natives wanting to reap the harvest of kendras, 11H is the right place for them, whatever be the side effects and by products, but those looking for spiritual gains, this house becomes a challenge and roadblock. Hence it is called inauspicious. This is the house which will show the baggage of challenges which we bring form the previous lives (7H from 5th) and also the efforts we need in our spiritual and religious pursuits (3H from 9H) to overcome these challenges. Hope other learned members will share their views and experiences on this.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Kursija ji and all, Let us remember that, the sloka reads - "Pataya tri-shad-ayanam yadi papa phalaprada" [The LORDS of 3-6-11 are malefic]. This means that - "the vimsottari dasa of 11th lord may not give good results", as per Venkata Pandita (Jataka Chandrika). This is a controversial opinion not supported by any other text. But still still it seems to be applicable to a certain extent. For example, if Moon is 11th lord the native may become enemy to his/her elder sister during the dasa or antara of Moon. [This points to the fact that the result depends on the significance of the planet which is the 11th lord and the significance of the 11th house etc as well] The above quote SHOULD NOT be applied to planets in 11th. For example if Moon is in 11th, it will mainly give benefice results only and not malefic results. Moon in 11th is a benefic and NOT malefic even as per the above rule. Moon in 11th is excellent for health, wealth, money and prosperity. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Dear Members,> With due regards I submit that "3rd, 6Th,and 11Th lords give malefic results" is stated in Lag Parashari. All these house are included in Upachya houses also which means to give rise to the native. It appear as contradiction. Moreover 11th house is house of gain. How it can be malefic?> So far as I understand that Sage Parashar has given two sides of each house.One is material and other is Jeeva. If you see each house in this prospective, there will not be any difficulty to understand the vimshottary dasha system. The 11th house is house of gain of material. As one gains in material, the native,the jeeva, suffers from mental and physical problems. 11th is 6th from 6th, diseases, debt, enemy litigation etc. 11th is 7th from 5th. He may have problems due to his children. So 11th house and its lord gives material but loss of mental and physical comfort also during its dasha and antar dasha.> Now examine the status of Aishwarya Rai during that period, though shem may be having name and fame during the period of 11th lord as stated, but she must be have mental and physical problems also. It is my observation.> Love and regards.> > > --- On Sun, 2/1/09, bhagavathi_hariharan bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:> > > bhagavathi_hariharan bhagavathi_hariharan > Re: Mo as 11th House Lord> > > > Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:53 PM> > Dear all,> > > > Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna> > natives. In > > the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as> > true, her > > moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon> > dasha was > > from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame,> > probably a golden > > period in her life. > > > > > > > > Regards,> > Bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Kursijaji, Yes every house has both the desirable and undesirable sides.For example the we can find both the income and loss of income from that. If the eleventh lord is well placed and well aspected then one can get happiness otherwise the reverse may happen. Coming to the Moon it is the most sensitive graha due to its constantly changing phases and it is yet probably the the most important graha as it affects the mind. I think that is why one has to be very wary if the Moon is the 11th lord. Regards, Sunil K. bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 2/2/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija wrote: S.C. Kursija <sckursijaRe: Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:46 AM Dear Members,With due regards I submit that "3rd, 6Th,and 11Th lords give malefic results" is stated in Lag Parashari. All these house are included in Upachya houses also which means to give rise to the native. It appear as contradiction. Moreover 11th house is house of gain. How it can be malefic?So far as I understand that Sage Parashar has given two sides of each house.One is material and other is Jeeva. If you see each house in this prospective, there will not be any difficulty to understand the vimshottary dasha system. The 11th house is house of gain of material. As one gains in material, the native,the jeeva, suffers from mental and physical problems. 11th is 6th from 6th, diseases, debt, enemy litigation etc. 11th is 7th from 5th. He may have problems due to his children. So 11th house and its lord gives material but loss of mental and physical comfort also during its dasha and antar dasha.Now examine the status of Aishwarya Rai during that period, though shem may be having name and fame during the period of 11th lord as stated, but she must be have mental and physical problems also. It is my observation.Love and regards.--- On Sun, 2/1/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n wrote:> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Mo as 11th House Lord> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:53 PM> Dear all,> > Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna> natives. In > the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as> true, her > moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon> dasha was > from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame,> probably a golden > period in her life. > > > > Regards,> Bhagavathi> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 you are right my 11 th house is having sat rahu abd mars in scorpio sign i get money whenever need arise but tension and debt is the problem j k mohla--- On Mon, 2/2/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija wrote: S.C. Kursija <sckursijaRe: Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 7:16 PM Dear Members,With due regards I submit that "3rd, 6Th,and 11Th lords give malefic results" is stated in Lag Parashari. All these house are included in Upachya houses also which means to give rise to the native. It appear as contradiction. Moreover 11th house is house of gain. How it can be malefic?So far as I understand that Sage Parashar has given two sides of each house.One is material and other is Jeeva. If you see each house in this prospective, there will not be any difficulty to understand the vimshottary dasha system. The 11th house is house of gain of material. As one gains in material, the native,the jeeva, suffers from mental and physical problems. 11th is 6th from 6th, diseases, debt, enemy litigation etc. 11th is 7th from 5th. He may have problems due to his children. So 11th house and its lord gives material but loss of mental and physical comfort also during its dasha and antar dasha.Now examine the status of Aishwarya Rai during that period, though shem may be having name and fame during the period of 11th lord as stated, but she must be have mental and physical problems also. It is my observation.Love and regards.--- On Sun, 2/1/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n wrote:> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Mo as 11th House Lord> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:53 PM> Dear all,> > Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna> natives. In > the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as> true, her > moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon> dasha was > from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame,> probably a golden > period in her life. > > > > Regards,> Bhagavathi> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Respected Sunil Bhattacharjya Thanks for going through the mail. But I am sorry to writethat you are mixing the two a. Moon as the lord of 11th, b. Moon posited in 11th. Both are two different things. I have commented on Moon as the 11th lord, not Moon in 11th. Love and regards --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 4:00 AM Dear Kursijaji, Yes every house has both the desirable and undesirable sides.For example the we can find both the income and loss of income from that. If the eleventh lord is well placed and well aspected then one can get happiness otherwise the reverse may happen. Coming to the Moon it is the most sensitive graha due to its constantly changing phases and it is yet probably the the most important graha as it affects the mind. I think that is why one has to be very wary if the Moon is the 11th lord. Regards, Sunil K. bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 2/2/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija wrote: S.C. Kursija <sckursijaRe: Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:46 AM Dear Members,With due regards I submit that "3rd, 6Th,and 11Th lords give malefic results" is stated in Lag Parashari. All these house are included in Upachya houses also which means to give rise to the native. It appear as contradiction. Moreover 11th house is house of gain. How it can be malefic?So far as I understand that Sage Parashar has given two sides of each house.One is material and other is Jeeva. If you see each house in this prospective, there will not be any difficulty to understand the vimshottary dasha system. The 11th house is house of gain of material. As one gains in material, the native,the jeeva, suffers from mental and physical problems. 11th is 6th from 6th, diseases, debt, enemy litigation etc. 11th is 7th from 5th. He may have problems due to his children. So 11th house and its lord gives material but loss of mental and physical comfort also during its dasha and antar dasha.Now examine the status of Aishwarya Rai during that period, though shem may be having name and fame during the period of 11th lord as stated, but she must be have mental and physical problems also. It is my observation.Love and regards.--- On Sun, 2/1/09, bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n wrote:> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_harihara n> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Mo as 11th House Lord> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:53 PM> Dear all,> > Moon as the lord of 11th is only possible for Kanya lagna> natives. In > the chart of Aishwarya Rai, considering the available BT as> true, her > moon is with nodes, she was born on shukla paksha. Her moon> dasha was > from 1990- 2000, when she attained world-wide fame,> probably a golden > period in her life. > > > > Regards,> Bhagavathi> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, Neelamji, Kursijaji and all, Moon is 11HL for Virgo Lagna. We had various authorities quoted on 11 L being inauspicious and planets placed in 11 House as auspicious. We also had aview that 11L is likely to give bad results in Vimshothari dasa only. I am giving the birth details of a girl child below: DOB- 04 May 2006. Time- 17-13 hrs.[05-13 PM] Princeton, New Jersey [ 40 N 21, 74 W 40] DST is applicable. The following factors need to be analysed: Moon is 11L Moon is 11 House.[own House] Moon is in Pushyami [ 4 charan]owned by Saturn Moon is conjunct Saturn[5L & 6L] in Pushya Moon is in Scorpio Navamsha. Thithi is Shukla Paksha ashtami. Moon is in Kendra from Jupiter[ GKY is applicable] I would request your views on the "Moon" in this chart and the effects one should anticipate. Regards, Col.Chandran --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 8:32 AM Dear Sathiyanarayana Gupta ji, The given quote (which states that all 3-6-11 lords are inauspicious) is applicable "only to Vimsottari Dasa result derivation", since the same is provided in the book Ududaya Pradeepam (alias Jataka Chandrika, Laghu Parasari etc) by venkatesha Pundit, which elaborates and clarifies the appilcation of Vimsottari Dasa provided by Sage Parasara in BPHS. The above quote applies to all the 11th lords whether it be Moon or any other planet. There is nothing specific in this sloka that connects Moon to this quote or as malefic when placed in 11th.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote:>> Namaste,> > Shri.Venkatachalapa thiji,> > I quote the relavant portions of Jaataka Chandrika available with me in portable document format.> > Chapter 1 – Subha-paapatvam (Benefic Malefic nature)> Stanza 4> sarve trikona netaaro grahah subhaphalapradaah> patayah trishadaayaanaam yati papaphalapradaah> All Trinal Lords(5,9) are benefic and give favourable results. Lords of 3, 6 and 11 give malefic results.> > I hope the above reference clarify you.> With regards,> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Dear SKM Chandran, The child is too small to give any prediction. It appears that you know asrology . See the chart only for the Balarishtha.--- On Tue, 2/3/09, skm chandran <colchandran wrote: skm chandran <colchandranRe: Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 5:03 PM Dear Sreenadhji, Neelamji, Kursijaji and all, Moon is 11HL for Virgo Lagna. We had various authorities quoted on 11 L being inauspicious and planets placed in 11 House as auspicious. We also had aview that 11L is likely to give bad results in Vimshothari dasa only. I am giving the birth details of a girl child below: DOB- 04 May 2006. Time- 17-13 hrs.[05-13 PM] Princeton, New Jersey [ 40 N 21, 74 W 40] DST is applicable. The following factors need to be analysed: Moon is 11L Moon is 11 House.[own House] Moon is in Pushyami [ 4 charan]owned by Saturn Moon is conjunct Saturn[5L & 6L] in Pushya Moon is in Scorpio Navamsha. Thithi is Shukla Paksha ashtami. Moon is in Kendra from Jupiter[ GKY is applicable] I would request your views on the "Moon" in this chart and the effects one should anticipate. Regards, Col.Chandran --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Mo as 11th House Lord Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 8:32 AM Dear Sathiyanarayana Gupta ji, The given quote (which states that all 3-6-11 lords are inauspicious) is applicable "only to Vimsottari Dasa result derivation", since the same is provided in the book Ududaya Pradeepam (alias Jataka Chandrika, Laghu Parasari etc) by venkatesha Pundit, which elaborates and clarifies the appilcation of Vimsottari Dasa provided by Sage Parasara in BPHS. The above quote applies to all the 11th lords whether it be Moon or any other planet. There is nothing specific in this sloka that connects Moon to this quote or as malefic when placed in 11th.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote:>> Namaste,> > Shri.Venkatachalapa thiji,> > I quote the relavant portions of Jaataka Chandrika available with me in portable document format.> > Chapter 1 – Subha-paapatvam (Benefic Malefic nature)> Stanza 4> sarve trikona netaaro grahah subhaphalapradaah> patayah trishadaayaanaam yati papaphalapradaah> All Trinal Lords(5,9) are benefic and give favourable results. Lords of 3, 6 and 11 give malefic results.> > I hope the above reference clarify you.> With regards,> D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 whre is lagnadhipati budhan placed and other planets details give all planetary details as the native is born out of india.as far as moon placement is considered it is good.11th lord in llth house indicates gains throughout.gajakesari yoga is also good adding strength to the horoscope.but i need other planetary placements for checking balarishta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 11 th lord is malefic because according to bhavat bhavam prnciple it is 6th from 6th house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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