Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Namaste, >Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is manifestation of what which is already there in man??? ...... 'education is a manifestation which is already present in man'. As opined by you,I could not visualize what the above sentence is short off.But my understanding is that : The Swamiji hastened to tell, that human beings by birth are manifested(demonstrate / reveal) with education (the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life) regardless of their schooling / veracity educations. Please,you being a person hails from the native state of Swamiji, I feel proud to hear from you the exact quote. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Gupta, Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is manifestation of what which is already there in man??? Thank you, . , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Namaste, > I append my Astrological views about the caption. > His Holiness' Vivekanandha said that 'education is a manifestation which is already present in man'. > Astrologically one could agree the above golden words, for the reason that: > Lagna explains nature of ones thought process, Mana lacshana, and sensualism. > 2nd house explains developmental aims of mana as regards to his educational prospectus. > 3rd house steers vairaakya, success, victory, courageousness, parakrama. > 4th house explains ones act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing for intellectually mature life with permissible developmental improvements. > 5th house explains ones reasoning powers / bukdhi applaudable by Pundits, Mahavidhvad-janams. > 6th house explains ones qualities of bossing over others. > 7th house explains ones deep analytical knowledge, mesmerism powers. > 8th house justify failures in ones life. > 9th house explains ones pnNya-karma and poorna-bhagya. > 10th house explains that whether a particular jenma is intended for sat-karma or otherwise. > 11th house explains ones acquired nyaana. > 12th explains debating capabilities. > If the lords of the above referred houses adorn Kendra / Kona / ucha / mooltrikona / chotchaetra / mithru or dhana laabha-sthaanaa denotes the above referred Phala- virdhi; further subha grha placement and dhirushti would bestow uthama phalam. > Since all the houses are correlated in the rational behavioral development in a child, the relatively maleficent or beneficent effects of the lords of 1,2,4,5,7,9,10,11 and their houses as opposed to the lords of 3,6,8,12 and their houses, may determine hyper-active child. > If the findings are disproportionate and adverse, the recourse would be to fall back on medical counciling, aushad priyoga and jenma nakshtra Ohma-japam. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 " We want that education by which character is formed; strength of mind is increased; the intellect is expanded and by which one can stand on one's feet. Education is the manifestation of the perfection already in man. " Hope this helps. Jaya , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Namaste, > > >Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > > ..... 'education is a manifestation > which is already present in man'. > > As opined by you,I could not visualize what the above sentence is short off.But my understanding is that : > The Swamiji hastened to tell, that human beings by birth are manifested(demonstrate / reveal) with education (the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life) regardless of their schooling / veracity educations. > Please,you being a person hails from the native state of Swamiji, I feel proud to hear from you the exact quote. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Gupta, > Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is > manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > Thank you, > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Gupta, Yes, I wanted the complete phrase from you, as " Education is manifestation already there in man " is incomplete. It is the manfestation of what???It is the Perfection. Each & every human is equally & potentially perfect. Next comes the question of what is perfection in Swamiji's lingo? It is the inner self, the Atman, the eternal part of the body. It is that is perfect & we need to manifest this Atman. What is knowledge??Is it what we study??No. Upanishads say 2 types of education--paravidya & aparavidya. Aparavidya is the material knowledge, which is required for earning the bread, while Paravidya is that knowledge which we need to be " dissolved " with the Paramatman. Swamiji also said--Each & Every human being is potentially divine. Each & every person is a part of the Immortal Bliss, that divine nectar, which makes him immortal.Swamiji also said that you are the source of infinite energy,if you can manifest that energy, You will be god. Even the Upanishads say, one who understands the Paramatman becomes a Monarch(or Samrat). So it is that education which helps in developing our both mind & body---this is the education that Swamiji. If one has a developed mind & with a stable, he is the right person to practise religion right??As we read in Upanishads & Swamiji also stressed upon " Naayamatma balahinena labhya " ..right??? These are *humble*few cents on Swamiji. Thank you, Gaurav. , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Namaste, > > >Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > > ..... 'education is a manifestation > which is already present in man'. > > As opined by you,I could not visualize what the above sentence is short off.But my understanding is that : > The Swamiji hastened to tell, that human beings by birth are manifested(demonstrate / reveal) with education (the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life) regardless of their schooling / veracity educations. > Please,you being a person hails from the native state of Swamiji, I feel proud to hear from you the exact quote. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Gupta, > Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is > manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > Thank you, > . > > , Sathiyanarayana Gupta > <gupta816@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > I append my Astrological views about the caption. > > His Holiness' Vivekanandha said that 'education is a manifestation > which is already present in man'. > > Astrologically one could agree the above golden words, for the > reason that: > > Lagna explains nature of ones thought process, Mana lacshana, and > sensualism. > > 2nd house explains developmental aims of mana as regards to his > educational prospectus. > > 3rd house steers vairaakya, success, victory, courageousness, parakrama. > > 4th house explains ones act or process of imparting or acquiring > general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, > and generally of preparing for intellectually mature life with > permissible developmental improvements. > > 5th house explains ones reasoning powers / bukdhi applaudable by > Pundits, Mahavidhvad-janams. > > 6th house explains ones qualities of bossing over others. > > 7th house explains ones deep analytical knowledge, mesmerism powers. > > 8th house justify failures in ones life. > > 9th house explains ones pnNya-karma and poorna-bhagya. > > 10th house explains that whether a particular jenma is intended for > sat-karma or otherwise. > > 11th house explains ones acquired nyaana. > > 12th explains debating capabilities. > > If the lords of the above referred houses adorn Kendra / Kona / ucha > / mooltrikona / chotchaetra / mithru or dhana laabha-sthaanaa denotes > the above referred Phala- virdhi; further subha grha placement and > dhirushti would bestow uthama phalam. > > Since all the houses are correlated in the rational behavioral > development in a child, the relatively maleficent or beneficent > effects of the lords of 1,2,4,5,7,9,10,11 and their houses as opposed > to the lords of 3,6,8,12 and their houses, may determine hyper-active > child. > > If the findings are disproportionate and adverse, the recourse would > be to fall back on medical counciling, aushad priyoga and jenma > nakshtra Ohma-japam. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Ms.Jaya, Perfect!!I was beating around the bush . Thank you, . , " revati_n27 " <revati_n27 wrote: > > " We want that education by which character is formed; strength of > mind is increased; the intellect is expanded and by which one can > stand on one's feet. Education is the manifestation of the perfection > already in man. " > > Hope this helps. > Jaya > , Sathiyanarayana > Gupta <gupta816@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > >Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is > manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > > > > ..... 'education is a manifestation > > which is already present in man'. > > > > As opined by you,I could not visualize what the above sentence is > short off.But my understanding is that : > > The Swamiji hastened to tell, that human beings by birth are > manifested(demonstrate / reveal) with education (the act or process > of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of > reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others > intellectually for mature life) regardless of their schooling / > veracity educations. > > Please,you being a person hails from the native state of Swamiji, > I feel proud to hear from you the exact quote. > > With regards, > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Mr.Gupta, > > Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is > > manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > > Thank you, > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Namaste,Sarvatshri.Ghosh and Revati,Namaste,Thank you very much for your kind deliberations to the extant of its worthiness to the original context (Hyper-active Child) of study. The purpose of my quoting Holly words is limited to study the causes for hyper-active child in Astrological perspective,which has been explained in my previous mail.I am not for furthering any debate on Vedanta- identification of soul and its relation to Paramatman. etc.,Regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Gupta, Yes, I wanted the complete phrase from you, as "Education is manifestation already there in man" is incomplete. It is the manfestation of what???It is the Perfection. Each & every human is equally & potentially perfect. Next comes the question of what is perfection in Swamiji's lingo? It is the inner self, the Atman, the eternal part of the body. It is that is perfect & we need to manifest this Atman. What is knowledge??Is it what we study??No. Upanishads say 2 types of education--paravidya & aparavidya. Aparavidya is the material knowledge, which is required for earning the bread, while Paravidya is that knowledge which we need to be "dissolved" with the Paramatman. Swamiji also said--Each & Every human being is potentially divine. Each & every person is a part of the Immortal Bliss, that divine nectar, which makes him immortal.Swamiji also said that you are the source of infinite energy,if you can manifest that energy, You will be god. Even the Upanishads say, one who understands the Paramatman becomes a Monarch(or Samrat). So it is that education which helps in developing our both mind & body---this is the education that Swamiji. If one has a developed mind & with a stable, he is the right person to practise religion right??As we read in Upanishads & Swamiji also stressed upon "Naayamatma balahinena labhya"..right??? These are *humble*few cents on Swamiji. Thank you, Gaurav. , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Namaste, > > >Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > > ..... 'education is a manifestation > which is already present in man'. > > As opined by you,I could not visualize what the above sentence is short off.But my understanding is that : > The Swamiji hastened to tell, that human beings by birth are manifested(demonstrate / reveal) with education (the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life) regardless of their schooling / veracity educations. > Please,you being a person hails from the native state of Swamiji, I feel proud to hear from you the exact quote. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Gupta, > Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is > manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > Thank you, > . > > , Sathiyanarayana Gupta > <gupta816@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > I append my Astrological views about the caption. > > His Holiness' Vivekanandha said that 'education is a manifestation > which is already present in man'. > > Astrologically one could agree the above golden words, for the > reason that: > > Lagna explains nature of ones thought process, Mana lacshana, and > sensualism. > > 2nd house explains developmental aims of mana as regards to his > educational prospectus. > > 3rd house steers vairaakya, success, victory, courageousness, parakrama. > > 4th house explains ones act or process of imparting or acquiring > general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, > and generally of preparing for intellectually mature life with > permissible developmental improvements. > > 5th house explains ones reasoning powers / bukdhi applaudable by > Pundits, Mahavidhvad-janams. > > 6th house explains ones qualities of bossing over others. > > 7th house explains ones deep analytical knowledge, mesmerism powers. > > 8th house justify failures in ones life. > > 9th house explains ones pnNya-karma and poorna-bhagya. > > 10th house explains that whether a particular jenma is intended for > sat-karma or otherwise. > > 11th house explains ones acquired nyaana. > > 12th explains debating capabilities. > > If the lords of the above referred houses adorn Kendra / Kona / ucha > / mooltrikona / chotchaetra / mithru or dhana laabha-sthaanaa denotes > the above referred Phala- virdhi; further subha grha placement and > dhirushti would bestow uthama phalam. > > Since all the houses are correlated in the rational behavioral > development in a child, the relatively maleficent or beneficent > effects of the lords of 1,2,4,5,7,9,10,11 and their houses as opposed > to the lords of 3,6,8,12 and their houses, may determine hyper-active > child. > > If the findings are disproportionate and adverse, the recourse would > be to fall back on medical counciling, aushad priyoga and jenma > nakshtra Ohma-japam. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Namaste,Thanks,I appreciate your knowledge, maturity and recalling power. With regards,D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.revati_n27 <revati_n27 wrote: "We want that education by which character is formed; strength of mind is increased; the intellect is expanded and by which one can stand on one's feet. Education is the manifestation of the perfection already in man." Hope this helps. Jaya , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Namaste, > > >Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > > ..... 'education is a manifestation > which is already present in man'. > > As opined by you,I could not visualize what the above sentence is short off.But my understanding is that : > The Swamiji hastened to tell, that human beings by birth are manifested(demonstrate / reveal) with education (the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life) regardless of their schooling / veracity educations. > Please,you being a person hails from the native state of Swamiji, I feel proud to hear from you the exact quote. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Gupta, > Your sentence is incomplete, as you quote Swami Vivekananda. It is > manifestation of what which is already there in man??? > Thank you, > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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