Re:Barack Obama, the 44th President of US & His Oath Gaurav

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaurav,

 

Oath taking time is equivalent of Rajyabhishek Muhurtha.

Here the chief justice performs the oath taking ceremony.

Until a king has been confirmed by Rajyabhishek, he is not considered

a king.

Similarly until an oath is taken/administered, a minister is not a

minister.

Technically Obama became president at 12 noon.

But as a President, he cannot sign any decree unless he is sworn in.

Swearing in ceremony gives him powers to function as president.

My 2 cents.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

, " "

<gaurav.ghosh wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Shree Tatvamasiji,

> Today morning I was just going through this matter i.e. one becomes

a

> president by default at 12 noon??or one becomes a president after

the

> oath of office??

> Article 2 says, that one becomes a president after taking an oath,

> while 20th amendment says, one is president, by default, so here the

> question of oath doesn't come into place. It somewhat supercedes the

> importance of oath.

> Generally an oath, whether in the Name of God or in the name of

> public, means that from now onwards you are going to execute your

> power, so once someone takes an oath, then he becomes an authority

for

> the position he has been given.

> I noted another member saying that we should consider that time when

> he was selected, which I consider to be incorrect.

> Thank you,

> .

>

> , " nameisego "

> <nameisego@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear grp,

> >

> > Let us assume that a father is giving away his daughter in

kanyadanam.

> > He repeats the sloka saying

> > " I so and so, here by give my daughter Sow. So and so in marriage

to,

> > Sri So and so on this day etc "

> > Instead, he repeats that I so and so give my daughter in marriage

to

> > so and so whose name is so and so......

> >

> > In such a case, will this kanya danam muhurtham is valid or not?

> > Or will he have to conduct another marriage ceremony?

> >

> > Tatvam- Asi

> >

> > As per constitution of USA, at 12 noon, Barack Obama becaqme 44th

> > president irrespective of his oath taking time. Now can we in

> > validate this event as per constitution?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > hare ramakrishna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > dear grp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > astrology is kala tantra means the prediction s based on time of

> > > happening ( those who want pls remebr story of bhaskaracharya's

> > > daughters marriage time blocked by some small pearl as those

days

> > water

> > > clocks were using for measurin time )

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > so any change is change in timing and it shud b taken as it is

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > this is the view of orthodox vedic astro prinicple 's

> > >

> > > so in short new time is applicable for OBama and those who

> > interested

> > > can post it for view and discussion in grp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > i will tell my opinions on change of time later

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > >

> > > , " nameisego "

> > > <nameisego@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Friends,

> > > >

> > > > The oath which was administered first time cannot be held as

void

> > > > because change in wording does not take away sentiment or

meaning

> > > > expressed there in.

> > > >

> > > > So IMHO, first oath should be taken into account.

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

Obama first stepped in the white house, attended a meeting in the Oval

office, offically on Nov10, 2008. He started presidential duty from

that day itself. Why not consider that muhurtha for the chart?

 

Regards,

 

bhagavathi

[Guest guest]

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Bhagavathiji,

When a PM/President is selected, he remains a " President/PM Elect " only.

If you tell us to consider that we should analyse that Muhurth, when

Obama stepped in the White House on Nov.10, 2008 to attend a meeting &

started his presidential duty, thn what was the need for oath or

declare him to be the Official President on Jan, 2009?Why not make him

the President on Nov. 10 or Jan.04 & throw out Bush from the White House?

Thank you,

.

 

 

,

" bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> Obama first stepped in the white house, attended a meeting in the Oval

> office, offically on Nov10, 2008. He started presidential duty from

> that day itself. Why not consider that muhurtha for the chart?

>

> Regards,

>

> bhagavathi

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste all:

 

It clearly states in the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 that

 

" Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the

following oath or affirmation:

" I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the

office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my

ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States. "

 

 

Therefore, the oath is required before the president elect can do any

presidential duties. So, isn't better to take the first oath time as

the " real muhurta " and the mistake occured as a bad (or good)omen? It

was upto him to retake it later and none would have questioned his

authority in executing his duties as the president of the United

States.

 

Jaya