Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hi Marg from his BIRTH CERTIFICATE in his campaign pages a copy of it is available in jyotish vidya gro also prashant On 1/21/09, Marg <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 > 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at > some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > <%40> > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which > you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 <margie9%40talktalk.net>> wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good > undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered > generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think > he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > <%40> > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, > 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the > following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon > or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available > from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the > blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained > about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's > presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a > better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is > battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, > etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies > to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen > who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place > for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger > on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET > STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published > Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make > a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to > verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown > folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member > ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Mahalxmi ji, No that is not True. It is around Noon time 12:05- or 12:06 PM in DC. It may have been 10:36PM in India Satish ________________________________ mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:20:58 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear satish no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant. so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th. this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes. there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart. must rush now on some errands! mahalakshmi SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: Hi, Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10 th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc. I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we have to conclude the same for every president. Satish ____________ _________ _________ __ mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi@ .co. in> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear prashant, read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. so all may not be so gloomy after all. all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. mahalakshmi astro desk <astro.prashantkuma r @gmail.com> wrote: Dear Members President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. but Guru may add some shield of sorts. the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th Jan 09 Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech in a place marked by it to make his stand clear sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies there do a better job than in India. Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do that also in due course. Best wishes Prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Uttara, Yes, I tried to workout with the time that you mentioned i.e. 19:06 hrs, but things dont seem to match. I find 13:06 hrs to be more convenient, than birth in the evening. If we work out with Capricorn Lagna(or Makar Lagna), I see a remarriage in his life, after a marital discord, domestic violence & some scandal, which is unlikely to happen in case of Libra Lagna. Let's see what happens ahead!! Anyways, here is a new for all of us, " Several constitutional lawyers later said that Obama should retake the oath as soon as possible, as Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur did under similar circumstances.[23] Although initially the Obama administration indicated that they did not plan to retake the oath of office,[24] Obama did retake the oath of office the next day, at 7:35 p.m. on January 21, 2009.[25] The retaking of the oath took place in the Map Room of the White House in a private ceremony administered by Chief Justice Roberts. " Thank you, Gaurav. jyotish-vidya , " muttaraphalguni " <muttaraphalguni wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > In the files section on Jyotish Vidya home page, Under Politicians birth > times, you can find the birth chart and a copy of Barack Obama's birth > certificate. This is a copy of live birth and not the original birth > certificate. However, this is the one that was used to prove Mr. Obama > was born in USA. > > It is true that the 19:24 time does not necessarily show one who would > be president but it is the one that is officially used. This chart > might show furture actions of the President if things don't go well for > him. > > I hope this helps. there are a lot of astrologers that use their own > favorite time to build charts to support their hopes and wishes. > The chart time you think is correct does support as you say someone who > wnts change and will rise to high office. However, if you delineate the > offical chart of 19:24 you might be able to find as you peel the layers > away how this chart can show President Obama's ambition and rise to > power. And, how it will show his possible fall. > > As Always, > > Uttara > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " " <gaurav.ghosh@> > wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Friends, > > The time 19:24hrs, which is being claimed to be in Birth certificate, > > doesn't match with the events in his life, however, the time given by > > Col. Gour in JOA website also doesn't fit. the time 13:06 seems to be > > fairly accurate as I think. Certain combinations fulfils the dream of > > a leader, who wants to bring " CHANGE " . > > I will start working on this time, If God permits, will come up pretty > > soon. The present dasa is of Ju-Su as per birthtime 13:06 hrs, & one > > looking at Dashamsa & Rashi, can easily understand his " raise " in the > > presidency of US.If I had followed 13:26:37 hrs(as given in JoA) or > > 19:24 hrs, I would have foreseen a possible marital discord with his > > wife, which has not occurred as far. > > Anyways, I have done an analysis of the prasna chart casted when he > > took the oath. > > http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/obama.html > > Thank you, > > . > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Ramesh Chitor rameshchitor@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks astro for the clarification. Confusion on my part was that I > > assumed Libra and everything I was checking based on that seemed to be > > coming true - including Saturn being a Yogakaraka. > > > > > > appreciate your thoughts! > > > Jai para shakthi > > > LL > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk astro.prashantkumar@ wrote: > > > astro desk astro.prashantkumar@ > > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 9:38 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Larry Lancaster, > > > > > > > > > > > > the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24 > > Hrs not > > > > > > 13.06 as some say [tula] > > > > > > > > > > > > HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT > AFRICA > > > > > > WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE > > ELSE > > > > > > > > > > > > AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also > > given if u > > > > > > dont choose one they will give u one of their choice > > > > > > > > > > > > U CAN REVISE IT LATER > > > > > > > > > > > > HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD > > > > > > > > > > > > and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a > > lean, > > > > > > oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her > > group > > > > > > for more > > > > > > later the BC came in handy > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar > > @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar > > @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > > > > <% 40. > com>, > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40. > com>, > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ > > astrology% 40. com> > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at > > 12 NOON ET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is > Tula > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. > > in D9 in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ > ravi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF > > SORTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a > > BALARISHTA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to > > the date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs > > of 20th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan 09 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates > > into a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical > > danger > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make > > a speech > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL > GET > > > > > > > STUCK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his > > Published > > > > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places > > to make > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security > > agencies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there do a better job than in India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA > > will do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that also in due course. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ > > from non > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting > to > > > > > > > verify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > unknown > > > > > > > folder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > chargeable. see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life > > Member > > > > > > > ICAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hi All, I tried to rectify Obama's birth time and I get 19:16:49 as the rectified time. Using this time, if one checks out the vimshottari dasha for the swearing-in time, one gets the following period: Jup-Moon-Ven-Rah-Rah-Mar Please notice the inter-play of the two royal planets here: Jup - Aspected by Sun Ven - In Srinkhala with Moon and disposits Moon Rah, Mars - Disposted by Sun Though Jupiter is debilitated, most of the negativity is mitigated due the bhanga obtained on the following counts: - Jupiter is in a Kendra - Jupiter's dispositor is also in a Kendra - The lord of the house where Jupiter gets exalted is exalted in the Chart Regards, Krishna On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM, astro desk <astro.prashantkumarwrote: > Dear Larry Lancaster, > > the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24 Hrs > not > 13.06 as some say [tula] > > HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT AFRICA > WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE ELSE > > AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also given if u > dont choose one they will give u one of their choice > > U CAN REVISE IT LATER > > HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD > > and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a lean, > oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her group > for more > later the BC came in handy > > prashant > > > On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536<llancas94536%40>> > wrote: > > > > Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate. > > > > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com> > <astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com> > <astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com> > > > > > Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > <%40><% > 40>, > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya% > 40>, > > <%40.\ com> > <%40> > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM > > > > Dear Members > > > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON > ET > > > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > > > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > > > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > > > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > > > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > > > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of > 20th > > > > Jan 09 > > > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > > > > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger > > on > > > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a > speech > > > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET > > STUCK > > > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published > > Birth > > > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to > make > > a > > > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > > > > there do a better job than in India. > > > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > > > > that also in due course. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from > non > > > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to > > verify > > > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown > > folder. > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member > > ICAS > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Let me second that. I live in the area (Washington DC Area). People get confused with time zones all the time and this has done a lot of harm to all astrologers. Here are some other observations 1. VP - Biden finished oath at 11.56 I think and then there some other event in between. So Chief justice Roberts gave the oath to Mr. Obama at 12:07pm. Aries lagna and Libra navamsa. 2. Tonight -(Jan 21, 2009) chief Justice Roberts has again given the oath to Obama in the white house for the second time just to clear some controversy, surroundng the exact words that Roberts seemed to have fumbled on Jan 20. 3. I don't what lagna this new oath on Jan 21 falls into. Most likely Karkataka or Simha. We may know the time sooner. But nobody is going to sweat on it, other than a few jyotishis who will come back after a few years(after a significant event) and claim that theoath chart on Jan 21 better explains this events and not the Jan 20 oath chart. I am 100% sure Jyotishis will do this before his first ends after a major bad/good newsworthy event. 4. According to US constitution President elect becomes President on Jan 20 at noon. Whether oath is taken or not that is the rule. 5. Satish makes a verygood point about DC, Jan 20 every year and Sun in 10th house. So muhurtha chart has Sun in 10th (digbali) always. 6. How about looking at his chart (Obama) and making some predictions. 7. Still some astrolgers are sticking to Libra lagna chart and not Capricorn lagna chart even after his birth certificate is out. And some claim it as a great prediction. Garbage in garbage out prediction with lot of astro jargon. M.Sharma , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Mahalxmi ji, > > No that is not True. It is around Noon time 12:05- or 12:06 PM in DC. It may have been 10:36PM in India > > Satish > > > > > ________________________________ > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:20:58 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > dear satish > > no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant. > so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th. > this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes. > > there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart. > > must rush now on some errands! > > mahalakshmi > > > > SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: > Hi, > > Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10 th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc. > > I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we have to conclude the same for every president. > > Satish > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi@ .co. in> > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkuma r @gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 please check your clock / time zone settings. , mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote: > > dear satish > > no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant. > so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th. > this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes. > > there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart. > > must rush now on some errands! > > mahalakshmi > > > > SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > Hi, > > Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10 th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc. > > I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we have to conclude the same for every president. > > Satish > > ________________________________ > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks maybe this info was out earlier but didn't save changes made to it in my prog - astro desk Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:41 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 Hi Marg from his BIRTH CERTIFICATE in his campaign pages a copy of it is available in jyotish vidya gro also prashant On 1/21/09, Marg <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 > 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at > some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > <%40> > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which > you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 <margie9%40talktalk.net>> wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good > undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered > generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think > he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > <%40> > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, > 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the > following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon > or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available > from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the > blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained > about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's > presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a > better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is > battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, > etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies > to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen > who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place > for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger > on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET > STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published > Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make > a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to > verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown > folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member > ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 dear Margaret i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. regards mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? Thanks M - mahaluxmi iyer Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 hi margaret, are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? 4th August, 1961 19.24Hrs Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) 10Hrs West of GMT Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 lagna at 25 Cp 00 if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? best wishes mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi Mahaluxmi and all I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? regards M - mahaluxmi iyer Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear prashant, read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. so all may not be so gloomy after all. all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. mahalakshmi astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: Dear Members President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. but Guru may add some shield of sorts. the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th Jan 09 Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech in a place marked by it to make his stand clear sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies there do a better job than in India. Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do that also in due course. Best wishes Prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi M I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting first house? I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon actually so very promising for child birth potential. Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? Just a thought kind regards M - mahaluxmi iyer Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear Margaret i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. regards mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? Thanks M - mahaluxmi iyer Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 hi margaret, are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? 4th August, 1961 19.24Hrs Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) 10Hrs West of GMT Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 lagna at 25 Cp 00 if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? best wishes mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi Mahaluxmi and all I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? regards M - mahaluxmi iyer Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear prashant, read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. so all may not be so gloomy after all. all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. mahalakshmi astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: Dear Members President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. but Guru may add some shield of sorts. the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th Jan 09 Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech in a place marked by it to make his stand clear sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies there do a better job than in India. Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do that also in due course. Best wishes Prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. RR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting first house? > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon actually so very promising for child birth potential. > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > Just a thought > kind regards > M > > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > dear Margaret > i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > regards > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hi M I think there were a few times given on the list but I seem to have stuck with 7:11 cos I think Manjunath confirmed this was the right one. - Rohiniranjan Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30 AM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. RR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting first house? > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon actually so very promising for child birth potential. > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > Just a thought > kind regards > M > > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > dear Margaret > i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > regards > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 The time of second oath was 07:35 PM (Washington DC) on the 21-01- 2009. In India it translates to 5:15 AM of 22-01-2009. K C Dwivedi , " M. Sharma " <nakshatras wrote: > > Let me second that. I live in the area (Washington DC Area). People > get confused with time zones all the time and this has done a lot of > harm to all astrologers. Here are some other observations > > 1. VP - Biden finished oath at 11.56 I think and then there some > other event in between. So Chief justice Roberts gave the oath to Mr. > Obama at 12:07pm. Aries lagna and Libra navamsa. > 2. Tonight -(Jan 21, 2009) chief Justice Roberts has again given the > oath to Obama in the white house for the second time just to clear > some controversy, surroundng the exact words that Roberts seemed to > have fumbled on Jan 20. > 3. I don't what lagna this new oath on Jan 21 falls into. Most likely > Karkataka or Simha. We may know the time sooner. But nobody is going > to sweat on it, other than a few jyotishis who will come back after a > few years(after a significant event) and claim that theoath chart on > Jan 21 better explains this events and not the Jan 20 oath chart. I > am 100% sure Jyotishis will do this before his first ends after a > major bad/good newsworthy event. > 4. According to US constitution President elect becomes President on > Jan 20 at noon. Whether oath is taken or not that is the rule. > 5. Satish makes a verygood point about DC, Jan 20 every year and Sun > in 10th house. So muhurtha chart has Sun in 10th (digbali) always. > 6. How about looking at his chart (Obama) and making some predictions. > 7. Still some astrolgers are sticking to Libra lagna chart and not > Capricorn lagna chart even after his birth certificate is out. And > some claim it as a great prediction. Garbage in garbage out > prediction with lot of astro jargon. > > M.Sharma > > > > , SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Mahalxmi ji, > > > > No that is not True. It is around Noon time 12:05- or 12:06 PM in > DC. It may have been 10:36PM in India > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi@> > > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:20:58 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > > > dear satish > > > > no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 > local time washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by > prashant. > > so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th. > > this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario > changes. > > > > there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart. > > > > must rush now on some errands! > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In > Dc there will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will > always be in the 10 th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, > etc. > > > > I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or > otherwise we have to conclude the same for every president. > > > > Satish > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi@ .co. in> > > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > dear prashant, > > > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama > today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath > for the following reasons. > > > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus > 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of > time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under > consideration. > > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove > the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have > explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the > 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not > be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to > america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, > unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of > policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of > his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet > to be put in place for the great revival. > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > astro desk <astro.prashantkuma r @gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Members > > > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 > NOON ET > > > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is > Tula > > > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in > D9 in > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja > from the > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF > SORTS. > > > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a > BALARISHTA > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to > the date > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs > of 20th > > Jan 09 > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates > into a > > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical > danger on > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make > a speech > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL > GET STUCK > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his > Published Birth > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places > to make a > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security > agencies > > there do a better job than in India. > > > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA > will do > > that also in due course. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ > from non > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting > to verify > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in > the > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > unknown folder. > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > chargeable. see > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life > Member ICAS > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 dear margaret such a beautiful analysis about the possibility of having his 3rd child in the white house. i feel his wife will be successful in putting through some projects for the welfare of and matters concerning children like education, healthcare, successfully mopping up huge funds mostly through the performing arts. i am using the 19.11 Hrs for his chart. almost the first thing i noticed was the double trasit of both jup and sat on his 5H where the 7L is poised. the first lady will be playing a more prominant role than emerges right now. this will last at least an year and a half into the presidentship. it shows he went through a lot of trauma the past one year but has been able to plod on with his aggressive campaigning nevertheless. the death of his grandmother just a day before he could be declared winner must also have been the biggest tragedy for him on a personal level. but what will unfold for him for these initial 12 to 15 months will be for him like shedding tears of blood! so much pain is seen. so much disturbances at home as well as with matters abroad. he promised to set right the financial mess, credit crunch, mortgages, etc but those are going to take much longer than he would like. there might also be instances of security lapses in 'the' house. security has to be beefed up so that no untoward incidents take place. regards mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M I think there were a few times given on the list but I seem to have stuck with 7:11 cos I think Manjunath confirmed this was the right one. - Rohiniranjan Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30 AM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. RR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting first house? > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon actually so very promising for child birth potential. > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > Just a thought > kind regards > M > > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > dear Margaret > i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > regards > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 See this link (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certif\ icate-part-ii/) click on BC image/link to see the time It is 7:24pm (Aug 4, 1961)Honolulu The consensus time before this release from Obama campaign was around 1:10 pm or something like that giving him a Libra lagna. This consensus time was used by most Western astrologers. Some vedic astrolgers picked up this time and made the fabulous chart giving him the libra lagna chart with multiple yogas etc. Fifth from Libra is Aq (which is an odd sign, male children) Fifth from Capricorn is Taurus (which is an even sign, female children). It is clear that it is Capricorn lagna based on birth certificate. I think people who made correct predictions with Libra lagna, Scorpio lagna (google to see all this) just got lucky. Anyway this is a 50/50 prediction as Satish says. M.Sharma , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > I think there were a few times given on the list but I seem to have stuck with 7:11 cos I think Manjunath confirmed this was the right one. > - > Rohiniranjan > > Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30 AM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth > certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site > related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please > since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. > > RR > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Hi M > > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal > moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting > first house? > > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but > still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon > actually so very promising for child birth potential. > > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. > Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring > fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his > wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > > Just a thought > > kind regards > > M > > > > - > > mahaluxmi iyer > > > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > > > dear Margaret > > i think i got it from this list when there were several > discussions about his birth time. > > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis > could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs > birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > > regards > > mahalakshmi > > > > Marg <margie9@> wrote: Hi M > > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 > and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed > to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > > Thanks M > > - > > mahaluxmi iyer > > > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > hi margaret, > > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > > > 4th August, 1961 > > 19.24Hrs > > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > > 10Hrs West of GMT > > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the > details which you have worked on? > > > > best wishes > > mahalakshmi > > > > Marg <margie9@> wrote: > > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time > for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is > not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at > Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a > third child? > > regards M > > - > > mahaluxmi iyer > > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > dear prashant, > > > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of > obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath > for the following reasons. > > > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or > minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length > of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under > consideration. > > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to > remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as > you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction > of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could > not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to > america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, > unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > > all of us should wish this young president administers the best > of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake > of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are > yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > Dear Members > > > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at > 12 NOON ET > > > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is > Tula > > > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. > in D9 in > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja > from the > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ > ravi > > > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA > OF SORTS. > > > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a > BALARISHTA > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to > the date > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 > Hrs of 20th > > Jan 09 > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates > into a > > successful reign and I have already published he may face > physical danger on > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will > make a speech > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO > WILL GET STUCK > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his > Published Birth > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential > places to make a > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security > agencies > > there do a better job than in India. > > > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA > will do > > that also in due course. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > differ from non > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > posting to verify > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in > the > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > unknown folder. > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > chargeable. see > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life > Member ICAS > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Hi M Thanks for kind comment re my interp, and thanks for the reminder of the double transit of Sat Ju on Taurus this year. Yes, I think you are right about his wife playing a lead role in some areas. best wishes M - mahaluxmi iyer Friday, January 23, 2009 3:57 PM Re: Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear margaret such a beautiful analysis about the possibility of having his 3rd child in the white house. i feel his wife will be successful in putting through some projects for the welfare of and matters concerning children like education, healthcare, successfully mopping up huge funds mostly through the performing arts. i am using the 19.11 Hrs for his chart. almost the first thing i noticed was the double trasit of both jup and sat on his 5H where the 7L is poised. the first lady will be playing a more prominant role than emerges right now. this will last at least an year and a half into the presidentship. it shows he went through a lot of trauma the past one year but has been able to plod on with his aggressive campaigning nevertheless. the death of his grandmother just a day before he could be declared winner must also have been the biggest tragedy for him on a personal level. but what will unfold for him for these initial 12 to 15 months will be for him like shedding tears of blood! so much pain is seen. so much disturbances at home as well as with matters abroad. he promised to set right the financial mess, credit crunch, mortgages, etc but those are going to take much longer than he would like. there might also be instances of security lapses in 'the' house. security has to be beefed up so that no untoward incidents take place. regards mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M I think there were a few times given on the list but I seem to have stuck with 7:11 cos I think Manjunath confirmed this was the right one. - Rohiniranjan Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30 AM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. RR , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting first house? > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon actually so very promising for child birth potential. > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > Just a thought > kind regards > M > > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > dear Margaret > i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > regards > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Hi Manjunath Thanks. I think I'll stick to 7:24 then What do you think about a third child potential? Cheers M - M. Sharma Friday, January 23, 2009 8:36 PM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 See this link (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certif\ icate-part-ii/) click on BC image/link to see the time It is 7:24pm (Aug 4, 1961)Honolulu The consensus time before this release from Obama campaign was around 1:10 pm or something like that giving him a Libra lagna. This consensus time was used by most Western astrologers. Some vedic astrolgers picked up this time and made the fabulous chart giving him the libra lagna chart with multiple yogas etc. Fifth from Libra is Aq (which is an odd sign, male children) Fifth from Capricorn is Taurus (which is an even sign, female children). It is clear that it is Capricorn lagna based on birth certificate. I think people who made correct predictions with Libra lagna, Scorpio lagna (google to see all this) just got lucky. Anyway this is a 50/50 prediction as Satish says. M.Sharma , " Marg " <margie9 wrote: > > Hi M > I think there were a few times given on the list but I seem to have stuck with 7:11 cos I think Manjunath confirmed this was the right one. > - > Rohiniranjan > > Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30 AM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth > certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site > related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please > since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. > > RR > > , " Marg " <margie9@> wrote: > > > > Hi M > > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal > moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting > first house? > > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but > still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon > actually so very promising for child birth potential. > > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. > Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring > fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his > wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > > Just a thought > > kind regards > > M > > > > - > > mahaluxmi iyer > > > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > > > dear Margaret > > i think i got it from this list when there were several > discussions about his birth time. > > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis > could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs > birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > > regards > > mahalakshmi > > > > Marg <margie9@> wrote: Hi M > > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 > and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed > to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > > Thanks M > > - > > mahaluxmi iyer > > > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > hi margaret, > > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > > > 4th August, 1961 > > 19.24Hrs > > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > > 10Hrs West of GMT > > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the > details which you have worked on? > > > > best wishes > > mahalakshmi > > > > Marg <margie9@> wrote: > > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time > for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is > not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at > Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a > third child? > > regards M > > - > > mahaluxmi iyer > > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > > dear prashant, > > > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of > obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath > for the following reasons. > > > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or > minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length > of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under > consideration. > > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to > remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as > you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction > of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could > not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to > america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, > unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > > all of us should wish this young president administers the best > of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake > of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are > yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > > > mahalakshmi > > > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar@> wrote: > > Dear Members > > > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at > 12 NOON ET > > > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is > Tula > > > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. > in D9 in > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja > from the > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ > ravi > > > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA > OF SORTS. > > > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a > BALARISHTA > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to > the date > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 > Hrs of 20th > > Jan 09 > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates > into a > > successful reign and I have already published he may face > physical danger on > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will > make a speech > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO > WILL GET STUCK > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his > Published Birth > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential > places to make a > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security > agencies > > there do a better job than in India. > > > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA > will do > > that also in due course. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > differ from non > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > posting to verify > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in > the > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > unknown folder. > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > chargeable. see > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life > Member ICAS > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Gaurav, I'm interested to know why you think the earlier time (13:06) seems more applicable to Obama than the recorded time of 19:24. If you have time I would like to have your take on the earlier time...hope to hear from you soon. PS: Back at the desk again after some much-needed R & R :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ jyotish-vidya , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Uttara, Yes, I tried to workout with the time that you mentioned i.e. 19:06 hrs, but things dont seem to match. I find 13:06 hrs to be more convenient, than birth in the evening. If we work out with Capricorn Lagna(or Makar Lagna), I see a remarriage in his life, after a marital discord, domestic violence & some scandal, which is unlikely to happen in case of Libra Lagna. Let's see what happens ahead!! Anyways, here is a new for all of us, " Several constitutional lawyers later said that Obama should retake the oath as soon as possible, as Calvin Coolidge and Chester A. Arthur did under similar circumstances.[23] Although initially the Obama administration indicated that they did not plan to retake the oath of office,[24] Obama did retake the oath of office the next day, at 7:35 p.m. on January 21, 2009.[25] The retaking of the oath took place in the Map Room of the White House in a private ceremony administered by Chief Justice Roberts. " Thank you, Gaurav. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11670 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Dear Marg, Mahalakshmi, all, I'm catching up with the posts, just returned from Europe. Great analysis- third child seems definitely as a possibility, but same Ju transit may give him some benefits in these trying times. But that upcoming JU/Sa opposition!- he was born in crucial phase of these giants, conjunction, 'closing opposition' will be end of the cycle. At best, some resolution can be expected, that hopefully we all can benefit from. Suffering, difficult lessons, depression are unavoidable, though. However, one born on J/Sa cross point is used to that and has enough 'moral fiber' to withstand any oppression, particularly when nicely supported by trine Moon! We've seen that during Obama's campaign- that devotion to truth and honesty, obsessive? one may say- but that is soooo typical signature of JU/Sa supported by Moon! I have seen that, you too I believe. Sure it affects all people born at these turning points, crucial cycles, but when Moons 'gives a hand', we can expect that no matter what the price, the person will not resort to less than dignified means- and that moral advantage certainly EVENTUALLY brings good luck, always. This is the signature of religious leaders, people of high personal integrity, wise unselfish souls who enlighten others, bring the best in people...well, martyrs, as well! /Jesus, Narasimha..to mention those you know, LOL/ How well does it fare for politics? Certainly not well for what we know by now- but it seems to me that world has reached crucial point as well, getting sick and tired of hypocrisy, /Ju/Sa is in fact even more important for mundane astrology, those with the same are just more likely to be catalysts for change in mundane affairs/, achieving critical amount of growth in consciousness to be able to replace old outworn style: Encouragement in that direction is the fact that Obama is a President, despite all odds measured by 'old standards- how many people resonated with his, never seen before, style. That has given me the faith that the world is changing for better, slowly, maybe painfully, but steadily. Regards, Anna --- On Sat, 1/24/09, Marg <margie9 wrote: Marg <margie9 Re: Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 Saturday, January 24, 2009, 2:38 AM Hi M Thanks for kind comment re my interp, and thanks for the reminder of the double transit of Sat Ju on Taurus this year. Yes, I think you are right about his wife playing a lead role in some areas. best wishes M - mahaluxmi iyer Friday, January 23, 2009 3:57 PM Re: Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 dear margaret such a beautiful analysis about the possibility of having his 3rd child in the white house. i feel his wife will be successful in putting through some projects for the welfare of and matters concerning children like education, healthcare, successfully mopping up huge funds mostly through the performing arts. i am using the 19.11 Hrs for his chart. almost the first thing i noticed was the double trasit of both jup and sat on his 5H where the 7L is poised. the first lady will be playing a more prominant role than emerges right now. this will last at least an year and a half into the presidentship. it shows he went through a lot of trauma the past one year but has been able to plod on with his aggressive campaigning nevertheless. the death of his grandmother just a day before he could be declared winner must also have been the biggest tragedy for him on a personal level. but what will unfold for him for these initial 12 to 15 months will be for him like shedding tears of blood! so much pain is seen. so much disturbances at home as well as with matters abroad. he promised to set right the financial mess, credit crunch, mortgages, etc but those are going to take much longer than he would like. there might also be instances of security lapses in 'the' house. security has to be beefed up so that no untoward incidents take place. regards mahalakshmi Marg <margie9 (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> wrote: Hi M I think there were a few times given on the list but I seem to have stuck with 7:11 cos I think Manjunath confirmed this was the right one. - Rohiniranjan Friday, January 23, 2009 12:30 AM Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 Someone had mentioned that the 19:24 came from Barack's birth certificate a scan of which appeared on the internet and on some site related to him or his party and not ebay! But don't quote me please since I cannot provide URL or evidence for what I heard. RR , " Marg " <margie9 > wrote: > > Hi M > I just saw that transit Ju is aspecting fifth from lagna, natal moon and fifth from moon/ninth from lagna, due to Jupiter transitting first house? > I'm not sure of seeing three children being promised however, but still a possibility? He is also in Jupiter Mahadasa currently Ju Moon actually so very promising for child birth potential. > Ju rules fifth navamsa holding three planets also with 11 24 time. Mars antardasa begins soon and Mars is in fifth navamsa also. > He has parivartana Ve Mo and Mer in rasi also which would bring fame on account of children and a birth in White House would put his wife and child in the Hall of Fame do you think? > Just a thought > kind regards > M > > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:47 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > > dear Margaret > i think i got it from this list when there were several discussions about his birth time. > until we look at the chart with the same co-ords, our analysis could turn out to be a wasted effort. i shall use the 19 11Hrs birthtime and check the child possibility asap. > regards > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 > wrote: Hi M > This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30 but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some stage, where did you get 17 24 from? > Thanks M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > hi margaret, > are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart? > > 4th August, 1961 > 19.24Hrs > Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18) > 10Hrs West of GMT > Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02 > lagna at 25 Cp 00 > > if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you have worked on? > > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > Marg <margie9 > wrote: > Hi Mahaluxmi and all > I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third child? > regards M > - > mahaluxmi iyer > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09 > > dear prashant, > > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon. > > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the following reasons. > > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day. > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration. > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc. > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc. > > so all may not be so gloomy after all. > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the great revival. > > mahalakshmi > > astro desk <astro.prashantkuma r wrote: > Dear Members > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd. > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS. > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts. > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th > Jan 09 > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9. > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER. > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii]. > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies > there do a better job than in India. > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do > that also in due course. > > Best wishes > > Prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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