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Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

 

--- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

, jyotish-vidya ,

 

Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members

 

 

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

 

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

 

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

 

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

 

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

 

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

 

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

 

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

 

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

 

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

 

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

 

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

 

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

 

Jan 09

 

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

 

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

 

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

 

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

 

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

 

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

 

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

 

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

 

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

 

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

 

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

 

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

 

there do a better job than in India.

 

 

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

 

that also in due course.

 

 

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

Prashant

 

 

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

 

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

 

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

 

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

 

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

 

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

 

 

 

 

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Dear Larry Lancaster,

 

the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24 Hrs not

13.06 as some say [tula]

 

HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT AFRICA

WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE ELSE

 

AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also given if u

dont choose one they will give u one of their choice

 

U CAN REVISE IT LATER

 

HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD

 

and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a lean,

oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her group

for more

later the BC came in handy

 

prashant

 

 

On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536 wrote:

>

> Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

>

> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk

<astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> astro desk

<astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>

> >

> Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> <%40>,

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

>

<%40.\

com>

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

>

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

>

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

>

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

>

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

>

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

>

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

>

> Jan 09

>

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

>

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

>

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

>

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

>

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

>

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

>

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

>

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

>

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

>

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

>

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

>

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

>

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

>

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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To All,

 

The official time of swearing in office for President by Barack H.

Obama is/was 12:05pm, Janurary 20, 2009, Washington, D.C. USA

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Larry Lancaster

<llancas94536 wrote:

>

> Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

>

> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

> Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> , jyotish-vidya ,

 

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Members

>

>

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12

NOON ET

>

>

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

>

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in

D9 in

>

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

>

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja

from the

>

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

>

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF

SORTS.

>

>

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

>

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

>

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

>

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the

date

>

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

>

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs

of 20th

>

> Jan 09

>

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

>

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

>

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

>

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical

danger on

>

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a

speech

>

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

>

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL

GET STUCK

>

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

>

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his

Published Birth

>

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

>

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places

to make a

>

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

>

> there do a better job than in India.

>

>

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

>

> that also in due course.

>

>

>

> Best wishes

>

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non

>

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting

to verify

>

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

>

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

>

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

>

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

Member ICAS

>

>

>

>

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Dear MembersPresident Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ETLagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravithe depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2ndthe 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahuFeb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do that also in due course.

Best wishesPrashantI use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

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dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

20th jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better

time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered

with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

 

 

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Dear Mahalakshmi

 

I was just reading a article in news

 

http://in./s/104569

"

Obama is the biggest ever assassination target in American history "

 

 

We hope these don't turn real, for the hope of millions rest on this day,

this man,

 

prashant

 

 

On 1/20/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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Dear Mahalakshmi,

 

I forgot to add that this is a normal practice in US to select that time

which happens to be Abhijit Muhurta close to Noon and one that can over come

one crore aflictions

 

even the same with Guru in a kendra more so in 10th covers over a crore

aflictions said Garga Maharishi.

 

it an overcome all of thesaid afllictions

 

but we must get back to Ramayana when Dasaratha took a chance and fixed a

Good Muuhurtha for Sri Rama's cornation but it ended up being a one for

Bharatha though the Kula Guru Vasishta saw it he knew the significance of

rama's birth and also the Muhurtha that it is a watershed time in its own

way.

 

so this Obamas time is also a revolutionary moment in History, irrespective

of his tenure, its outcome he will change the lives of African americans

 

just like Sports saw the increase in Gold medals of US, CANADA, EUROPE with

more blacks winning in most events, Basket Ball legend Michel Jordan, Singer

Michel Jackson etc making their own ippact as time went by after the Martin

Luthers effort s 45 yrs ago

 

it is a similar watershed time for Politics in many parts of the world

 

Prashant

 

On 1/20/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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Hi Mahaluxmi and all

I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good

undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered

generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he

is already on the way to expecting a third child?

regards M

-

mahaluxmi iyer

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

 

dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th

jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

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Obama uttered the word " God " at 12:07:43 pm eastern.

 

DB

 

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Hi Mahaluxmi and all

> I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for

any good undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not

considered generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's

chart do you think he is already on the way to expecting a third

child?

> regards M

> -

> mahaluxmi iyer

>

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM

> Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

>

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of

obama today, 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath

for the following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or

minus 12 noon or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length

of time available from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under

consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to

remove the blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as

you have explained about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction

of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could

not be a better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to

america which is battered with multiple problems of bad economy,

unemployment, credit crunch, etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best

of policies to see through difficult times such as these for the sake

of his countrymen who reposed great faith in his abilities which are

yet to be put in place for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at

12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is

Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur.

in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja

from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+

ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA

OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a

BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to

the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30

Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates

into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face

physical danger on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will

make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO

WILL GET STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his

Published Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential

places to make a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security

agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA

will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or

unknown folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are

chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

Member ICAS

>

>

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Thanks astro for the clarification. Confusion on my part was that I assumed

Libra and everything I was checking based on that seemed to be coming true -

including Saturn being a Yogakaraka.

 

appreciate your thoughts!

Jai para shakthi

LL

 

--- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

jyotish-vidya

Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 9:38 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Larry Lancaster,

 

 

 

the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24 Hrs not

 

13.06 as some say [tula]

 

 

 

HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT AFRICA

 

WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE ELSE

 

 

 

AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also given if u

 

dont choose one they will give u one of their choice

 

 

 

U CAN REVISE IT LATER

 

 

 

HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD

 

 

 

and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a lean,

 

oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her group

 

for more

 

later the BC came in handy

 

 

 

prashant

 

 

 

On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

 

>

 

> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

@gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>>

 

> wrote:

 

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail.

com>

 

> >

 

> Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

> <% 40. com>,

 

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40. com>,

 

> ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%

40. com>

 

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

 

>

 

> Dear Members

 

>

 

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

>

 

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

>

 

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

 

>

 

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

>

 

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

 

>

 

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

>

 

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

>

 

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

>

 

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

 

>

 

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

 

>

 

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

 

>

 

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

>

 

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

 

>

 

> Jan 09

 

>

 

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

>

 

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

>

 

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

 

>

 

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

 

> on

 

>

 

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

 

>

 

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

>

 

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

 

> STUCK

 

>

 

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

>

 

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

 

> Birth

 

>

 

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

>

 

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

 

> a

 

>

 

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

 

>

 

> there do a better job than in India.

 

>

 

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

 

>

 

> that also in due course.

 

>

 

> Best wishes

 

>

 

> Prashant

 

>

 

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

 

>

 

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

 

> verify

 

>

 

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

 

>

 

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

 

> folder.

 

>

 

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

 

>

 

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

 

> ICAS

 

>

 

>

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Hi,

 

Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there will

always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10 th

house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

 

I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we have

to conclude the same for every president.

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

________________________________

mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi

 

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

 

dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th

jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes

which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon

being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a

krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better

time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered

with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

 

 

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Satish,

the commonality ends with what u said

 

the Lagna, the position of Ravi, what matters the whole picture which will

have varying degrees of other planets, now u have to consider a Necha

Guru+Rahu with it

the saving grace is absence of Kuja for company, the role of Sani in the 5th

can lead to procrastriating delays esp w.r.t FOREIGN POLICIES, WAR etc can

cause a lot of troubles to his image as a President,

 

we have to look at a detailed picture and justipose with the National Chart

of US

 

prashant

 

 

On 1/21/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there

> will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10

> th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

>

> I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we

> have to conclude the same for every president.

>

> Satish

>

> ________________________________

> mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi<astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>

> >

> <%40>

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

> Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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dear satish

 

no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time

washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant.

so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th.

this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes.

 

there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart.

 

must rush now on some errands!

 

mahalakshmi

 

 

 

SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

Hi,

 

Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there will

always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10 th

house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

 

I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we have

to conclude the same for every president.

 

Satish

 

________________________________

mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi

 

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th

jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes

which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon

being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a

krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better

time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered

with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

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dear prashant

very well said.

this is the trigger many coloured people need at such a crucial time

especially in the biggest democratic country in the world which professes equal

opportunity for everyone.

all said and done even the so-called whites of america and australia are not

the original citizens of those countries. people from many countries had

migrated from elsewhere to make these countries their homes. the contribution

of the blacks have not been any less than others for the country.

the intolerance and the urge to make a section of the people remain as

inferiors so that the low level type of labor oriented work gets done due to

such fear or suppression has been the cause of all these differences.

but there are as many jonathan livingston seagulls out there, no matter who or

what cuts their wings, when or where, but soar they will at any cost due to an

inner call or treading the path someone has already walked in the past!

 

this is an event in the right and positive direction for a large section of

people.

you are so right about the motivation levels going up in sports, music,

modelling, etc taking inspiration from achievers who showed them a way to

overcome the color difference of the skin. which is really skin deep and the

blood that runs beneath is red for everyone irrespective of race, caste, creed,

etc, etc.

 

all said and done the oath chart does show promises in some areas.

i must really rush now due to time constraints.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

Dear Mahalakshmi,

 

I forgot to add that this is a normal practice in US to select that time

which happens to be Abhijit Muhurta close to Noon and one that can over come

one crore aflictions

 

even the same with Guru in a kendra more so in 10th covers over a crore

aflictions said Garga Maharishi.

 

it an overcome all of thesaid afllictions

 

but we must get back to Ramayana when Dasaratha took a chance and fixed a

Good Muuhurtha for Sri Rama's cornation but it ended up being a one for

Bharatha though the Kula Guru Vasishta saw it he knew the significance of

rama's birth and also the Muhurtha that it is a watershed time in its own

way.

 

so this Obamas time is also a revolutionary moment in History, irrespective

of his tenure, its outcome he will change the lives of African americans

 

just like Sports saw the increase in Gold medals of US, CANADA, EUROPE with

more blacks winning in most events, Basket Ball legend Michel Jordan, Singer

Michel Jackson etc making their own ippact as time went by after the Martin

Luthers effort s 45 yrs ago

 

it is a similar watershed time for Politics in many parts of the world

 

Prashant

 

On 1/20/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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Dear Mahalakshmi

 

I am sure u were following Indian TV networks then

 

I watced BBC, CNN and also the link to it is here

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Schedule_of_events_for_Obamas_inauguration/ar\

ticleshow/4005621.cms

 

th e BBC coverage clearly says the PRESIDENTS MAKE IT A POINT to do it at

noon [fuss[ here it was a few min past it]

 

FYI most activities in US are launced at 10.30IST or 12.00 ET in US even the

gulf wars 1, 2 the attack on Afghanistan, Iraq etc u can search the archives

of this preferably a sound byte

 

VP as sorn at 11.31 ET and P at 12.05 Hrs ET.

 

 

Prashant

 

On 1/21/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> dear satish

>

> no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time

> washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant.

> so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th.

> this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes.

>

> there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart.

>

> must rush now on some errands!

>

> mahalakshmi

>

>

>

> SPK <aquaris_rising <aquaris_rising%40>> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there

> will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10

> th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

>

> I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we

> have to conclude the same for every president.

>

> Satish

>

> ________________________________

> mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi<astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>

> >

> <%40>

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

> Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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Well spotted Satish

I think this time for inauguration may have been deliberately selected due to

some of the founding fathers using astrology to promote or aid their march to

independence. Lets face it, any astrologer would single this time out as the

best of all for a permanent special effect to be operative at swearing in times.

M

-

SPK

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:14 PM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

 

Hi,

 

Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there

will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10 th

house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

 

I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we

have to conclude the same for every president.

 

Satish

 

________________________________

mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th

jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

 

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This is true about the noontime. Apparently the new president takes up the post,

whether he wants to or not, says the oath or not at 12 noon precisely no matter

what happens.

-

astro desk

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:15 AM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

 

Dear Mahalakshmi

 

I am sure u were following Indian TV networks then

 

I watced BBC, CNN and also the link to it is here

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Schedule_of_events_for_Obamas_inauguration/ar\

ticleshow/4005621.cms

 

th e BBC coverage clearly says the PRESIDENTS MAKE IT A POINT to do it at

noon [fuss[ here it was a few min past it]

 

FYI most activities in US are launced at 10.30IST or 12.00 ET in US even the

gulf wars 1, 2 the attack on Afghanistan, Iraq etc u can search the archives

of this preferably a sound byte

 

VP as sorn at 11.31 ET and P at 12.05 Hrs ET.

 

Prashant

 

On 1/21/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> dear satish

>

> no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time

> washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant.

> so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th.

> this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes.

>

> there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart.

>

> must rush now on some errands!

>

> mahalakshmi

>

>

>

> SPK <aquaris_rising <aquaris_rising%40>> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there

> will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10

> th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

>

> I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we

> have to conclude the same for every president.

>

> Satish

>

> ________________________________

> mahaluxmi iyer

<astromahaluxmi<astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>

> >

> <%40>

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

> Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Friends,

The time 19:24hrs, which is being claimed to be in Birth certificate,

doesn't match with the events in his life, however, the time given by

Col. Gour in JOA website also doesn't fit. the time 13:06 seems to be

fairly accurate as I think. Certain combinations fulfils the dream of

a leader, who wants to bring " CHANGE " .

I will start working on this time, If God permits, will come up pretty

soon. The present dasa is of Ju-Su as per birthtime 13:06 hrs, & one

looking at Dashamsa & Rashi, can easily understand his " raise " in the

presidency of US.If I had followed 13:26:37 hrs(as given in JoA) or

19:24 hrs, I would have foreseen a possible marital discord with his

wife, which has not occurred as far.

Anyways, I have done an analysis of the prasna chart casted when he

took the oath.

http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/obama.html

Thank you,

.

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Ramesh Chitor <rameshchitor

wrote:

>

> Thanks astro for the clarification. Confusion on my part was that I

assumed Libra and everything I was checking based on that seemed to be

coming true - including Saturn being a Yogakaraka.

>

> appreciate your thoughts!

> Jai para shakthi

> LL

>

> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

> Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> jyotish-vidya

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 9:38 AM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Larry Lancaster,

>

>

>

> the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24

Hrs not

>

> 13.06 as some say [tula]

>

>

>

> HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT AFRICA

>

> WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE

ELSE

>

>

>

> AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also

given if u

>

> dont choose one they will give u one of their choice

>

>

>

> U CAN REVISE IT LATER

>

>

>

> HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD

>

>

>

> and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a

lean,

>

> oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her

group

>

> for more

>

> later the BC came in handy

>

>

>

> prashant

>

>

>

> On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536@ > wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

>

> >

>

> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

@gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>>

>

> > wrote:

>

> > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

@gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>

>

> > >

>

> > Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

>

> > <% 40. com>,

>

> > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40. com>,

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com>

>

> > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

>

> >

>

> > Dear Members

>

> >

>

> > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at

12 NOON ET

>

> >

>

> > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> >

>

> > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur.

in D9 in

>

> >

>

> > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> >

>

> > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja

from the

>

> >

>

> > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> >

>

> > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF

SORTS.

>

> >

>

> > but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> >

>

> > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a

BALARISHTA

>

> >

>

> > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

>

> >

>

> > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to

the date

>

> >

>

> > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> >

>

> > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs

of 20th

>

> >

>

> > Jan 09

>

> >

>

> > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> >

>

> > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> >

>

> > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates

into a

>

> >

>

> > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical

danger

>

> > on

>

> >

>

> > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make

a speech

>

> >

>

> > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> >

>

> > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

>

> > STUCK

>

> >

>

> > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> >

>

> > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his

Published

>

> > Birth

>

> >

>

> > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> >

>

> > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places

to make

>

> > a

>

> >

>

> > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security

agencies

>

> >

>

> > there do a better job than in India.

>

> >

>

> > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA

will do

>

> >

>

> > that also in due course.

>

> >

>

> > Best wishes

>

> >

>

> > Prashant

>

> >

>

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non

>

> >

>

> > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

>

> > verify

>

> >

>

> > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

>

> >

>

> > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

>

> > folder.

>

> >

>

> > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are

chargeable. see

>

> >

>

> > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

Member

>

> > ICAS

>

> >

>

> >

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you are right prashant.

i stand corrected.

then its almost as if all nations follow this abhijit mahurat and dont want to

take any chances.

some protection is better than none at all.

also getting the perfect combinations in a chart is almost impossible most

times. so many play it safe by choosing the noon or midnight to protect them

for any blemishes which a chart may have for starting imp things.

thank you.

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

Dear Mahalakshmi

 

I am sure u were following Indian TV networks then

 

I watced BBC, CNN and also the link to it is here

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Schedule_of_events_for_Obamas_inauguration/ar\

ticleshow/4005621.cms

 

th e BBC coverage clearly says the PRESIDENTS MAKE IT A POINT to do it at

noon [fuss[ here it was a few min past it]

 

FYI most activities in US are launced at 10.30IST or 12.00 ET in US even the

gulf wars 1, 2 the attack on Afghanistan, Iraq etc u can search the archives

of this preferably a sound byte

 

VP as sorn at 11.31 ET and P at 12.05 Hrs ET.

 

Prashant

 

On 1/21/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> dear satish

>

> no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local time

> washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant.

> so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th.

> this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes.

>

> there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart.

>

> must rush now on some errands!

>

> mahalakshmi

>

>

>

> SPK <aquaris_rising <aquaris_rising%40>> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc there

> will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the 10

> th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

>

> I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise we

> have to conclude the same for every president.

>

> Satish

>

> ________________________________

> mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi<astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>

> >

> <%40>

> Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

> Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

>

> dear prashant,

>

> read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> 20th jan. at 12 noon.

>

> imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> following reasons.

>

> 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon

> or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

> about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

> battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

> etc.

>

> so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies

> to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen

> who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> for the great revival.

>

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Members

>

> President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

>

> Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

>

> Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

>

> Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

>

> the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

>

> but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

>

> the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

>

> Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

> Jan 09

> Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

>

> Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

>

> It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> on

> his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

> in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

>

> sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> STUCK

> IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

>

> Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> Birth

> certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

>

> it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make

> a

> impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> there do a better job than in India.

>

> Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> that also in due course.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> verify

> ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS

>

>

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hi margaret,

are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart?

 

4th August, 1961

19.24Hrs

Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18)

10Hrs West of GMT

Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02

lagna at 25 Cp 00

 

if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you

have worked on?

 

best wishes

mahalakshmi

 

 

Marg <margie9 wrote:

Hi Mahaluxmi and all

I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good

undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered

generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he

is already on the way to expecting a third child?

regards M

-

mahaluxmi iyer

 

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th

jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the blemishes

which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained about the moon

being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's presence alongwith a

krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a better

time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is battered

with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch, etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

 

 

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To All,

 

It seems there is a controversy from many different websites and forums

as to when President Obama was sworn into office.

I too was scratching my head and felt it important to get the official

time from a legal perspective. I was hoping I could find the right

answer on one of the government sites, but to no avail.

 

However, I did find on Wikipedia the following information:

 

" Because the ceremony ran longer than normal, Obama legally became

President at 12:00PM EST, before being sworn in, per the Twentieth

Amendment to the United States Constitution

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_C\

onstitution> . "

 

 

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_2009_presidential_inauguratio\

n#cite_note-14> I hope this information is helpful for those who want to

erect a chart for investigation and future prognosis. However, as we

know

a minute or more can change a chart's accuracy. I don't know if the

debate will continue or if 12 noon will be taken.

 

I am confident from my cable regulated clocks to NASA time that the time

of 12:05:00 is accurate, as the beginning of his oath. Actually the

oath took 28 seconds. So, if one counts from the completion of the

Oath, the time would then be 12:05:28 (Eastern Time Zone) Washington,

D.C. USA on 20 January 2009.

 

Hope the information helps,

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " muttaraphalguni "

<muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> To All,

>

> The official time of swearing in office for President by Barack H.

> Obama is/was 12:05pm, Janurary 20, 2009, Washington, D.C. USA

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Gaurav,

 

In the files section on Jyotish Vidya home page, Under Politicians birth

times, you can find the birth chart and a copy of Barack Obama's birth

certificate. This is a copy of live birth and not the original birth

certificate. However, this is the one that was used to prove Mr. Obama

was born in USA.

 

It is true that the 19:24 time does not necessarily show one who would

be president but it is the one that is officially used. This chart

might show furture actions of the President if things don't go well for

him.

 

I hope this helps. there are a lot of astrologers that use their own

favorite time to build charts to support their hopes and wishes.

The chart time you think is correct does support as you say someone who

wnts change and will rise to high office. However, if you delineate the

offical chart of 19:24 you might be able to find as you peel the layers

away how this chart can show President Obama's ambition and rise to

power. And, how it will show his possible fall.

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " " <gaurav.ghosh

wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Friends,

> The time 19:24hrs, which is being claimed to be in Birth certificate,

> doesn't match with the events in his life, however, the time given by

> Col. Gour in JOA website also doesn't fit. the time 13:06 seems to be

> fairly accurate as I think. Certain combinations fulfils the dream of

> a leader, who wants to bring " CHANGE " .

> I will start working on this time, If God permits, will come up pretty

> soon. The present dasa is of Ju-Su as per birthtime 13:06 hrs, & one

> looking at Dashamsa & Rashi, can easily understand his " raise " in the

> presidency of US.If I had followed 13:26:37 hrs(as given in JoA) or

> 19:24 hrs, I would have foreseen a possible marital discord with his

> wife, which has not occurred as far.

> Anyways, I have done an analysis of the prasna chart casted when he

> took the oath.

> http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/obama.html

> Thank you,

> .

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , Ramesh Chitor rameshchitor@

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks astro for the clarification. Confusion on my part was that I

> assumed Libra and everything I was checking based on that seemed to be

> coming true - including Saturn being a Yogakaraka.

> >

> > appreciate your thoughts!

> > Jai para shakthi

> > LL

> >

> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk astro.prashantkumar@ wrote:

> > astro desk astro.prashantkumar@

> > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> > jyotish-vidya

> > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 9:38 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Larry Lancaster,

> >

> >

> >

> > the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24

> Hrs not

> >

> > 13.06 as some say [tula]

> >

> >

> >

> > HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT

AFRICA

> >

> > WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE

> ELSE

> >

> >

> >

> > AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also

> given if u

> >

> > dont choose one they will give u one of their choice

> >

> >

> >

> > U CAN REVISE IT LATER

> >

> >

> >

> > HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD

> >

> >

> >

> > and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a

> lean,

> >

> > oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her

> group

> >

> > for more

> >

> > later the BC came in handy

> >

> >

> >

> > prashant

> >

> >

> >

> > On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536@ > wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

> @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>>

> >

> > > wrote:

> >

> > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

> @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> >

> > > <% 40.

com>,

> >

> > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40.

com>,

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

> astrology% 40. com>

> >

> > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Members

> >

> > >

> >

> > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at

> 12 NOON ET

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is

Tula

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur.

> in D9 in

> >

> > >

> >

> > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja

> from the

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+

ravi

> >

> > >

> >

> > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF

> SORTS.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a

> BALARISHTA

> >

> > >

> >

> > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> >

> > >

> >

> > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to

> the date

> >

> > >

> >

> > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs

> of 20th

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Jan 09

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates

> into a

> >

> > >

> >

> > > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical

> danger

> >

> > > on

> >

> > >

> >

> > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make

> a speech

> >

> > >

> >

> > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

> >

> > >

> >

> > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL

GET

> >

> > > STUCK

> >

> > >

> >

> > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his

> Published

> >

> > > Birth

> >

> > >

> >

> > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

> >

> > >

> >

> > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places

> to make

> >

> > > a

> >

> > >

> >

> > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security

> agencies

> >

> > >

> >

> > > there do a better job than in India.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA

> will do

> >

> > >

> >

> > > that also in due course.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Best wishes

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Prashant

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from non

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting

to

> >

> > > verify

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

the

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or

unknown

> >

> > > folder.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are

> chargeable. see

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

> Member

> >

> > > ICAS

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

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P.S. Mrs. Wendy felt that a birth time of 19:11 was an accurate

portrayal of Barack Obama. You might want to try that time.

 

Uttara

 

jyotish-vidya , " muttaraphalguni "

<muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> In the files section on Jyotish Vidya home page, Under Politicians birth

> times, you can find the birth chart and a copy of Barack Obama's birth

> certificate. This is a copy of live birth and not the original birth

> certificate. However, this is the one that was used to prove Mr. Obama

> was born in USA.

>

> It is true that the 19:24 time does not necessarily show one who would

> be president but it is the one that is officially used. This chart

> might show furture actions of the President if things don't go well for

> him.

>

> I hope this helps. there are a lot of astrologers that use their own

> favorite time to build charts to support their hopes and wishes.

> The chart time you think is correct does support as you say someone who

> wnts change and will rise to high office. However, if you delineate the

> offical chart of 19:24 you might be able to find as you peel the layers

> away how this chart can show President Obama's ambition and rise to

> power. And, how it will show his possible fall.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " " <gaurav.ghosh@>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Friends,

> > The time 19:24hrs, which is being claimed to be in Birth certificate,

> > doesn't match with the events in his life, however, the time given by

> > Col. Gour in JOA website also doesn't fit. the time 13:06 seems to be

> > fairly accurate as I think. Certain combinations fulfils the dream of

> > a leader, who wants to bring " CHANGE " .

> > I will start working on this time, If God permits, will come up pretty

> > soon. The present dasa is of Ju-Su as per birthtime 13:06 hrs, & one

> > looking at Dashamsa & Rashi, can easily understand his " raise " in the

> > presidency of US.If I had followed 13:26:37 hrs(as given in JoA) or

> > 19:24 hrs, I would have foreseen a possible marital discord with his

> > wife, which has not occurred as far.

> > Anyways, I have done an analysis of the prasna chart casted when he

> > took the oath.

> > http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/obama.html

> > Thank you,

> > .

> >

> >

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , Ramesh Chitor rameshchitor@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks astro for the clarification. Confusion on my part was that I

> > assumed Libra and everything I was checking based on that seemed to be

> > coming true - including Saturn being a Yogakaraka.

> > >

> > > appreciate your thoughts!

> > > Jai para shakthi

> > > LL

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk astro.prashantkumar@ wrote:

> > > astro desk astro.prashantkumar@

> > > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> > > jyotish-vidya

> > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 9:38 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Larry Lancaster,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > the borth certificate published on Obama's campaing page shows 19.24

> > Hrs not

> > >

> > > 13.06 as some say [tula]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > HE HAD TO PUT THE CERTIFICATE TO SHOW he is born in USA LAND NOT

> AFRICA

> > >

> > > WELL IF THERE IS A DISREPRECANCY IT CAN ALWAYS BE CLAIMED AS SOMEONE

> > ELSE

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > AND in US birth time is recorded as the birth occurs names also

> > given if u

> > >

> > > dont choose one they will give u one of their choice

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > U CAN REVISE IT LATER

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > HE CAN'T RISK HIS CAMPAIGN BY NOT A OFFICIAL RECORD

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > and Wendy had given a 19.11 Hrs time by her working in JV she felt a

> > lean,

> > >

> > > oblong, face is what suits his during July time itself pl visit her

> > group

> > >

> > > for more

> > >

> > > later the BC came in handy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 1/20/09, Larry Lancaster <llancas94536@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Obama as Libra ascendant is accurate.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

> > @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>>

> > >

> > > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar

> > @gmail.com<astro.prashantkuma r%40gmail. com>

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> > >

> > > > <% 40.

> com>,

> > >

> > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40.

> com>,

> > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

> > astrology% 40. com>

> > >

> > > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 3:02 AM

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Members

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at

> > 12 NOON ET

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is

> Tula

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur.

> > in D9 in

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja

> > from the

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+

> ravi

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF

> > SORTS.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a

> > BALARISHTA

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to

> > the date

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs

> > of 20th

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Jan 09

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates

> > into a

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical

> > danger

> > >

> > > > on

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make

> > a speech

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL

> GET

> > >

> > > > STUCK

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his

> > Published

> > >

> > > > Birth

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places

> > to make

> > >

> > > > a

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security

> > agencies

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > there do a better job than in India.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA

> > will do

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > that also in due course.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Prashant

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> > from non

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting

> to

> > >

> > > > verify

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

> the

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or

> unknown

> > >

> > > > folder.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are

> > chargeable. see

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

> > Member

> > >

> > > > ICAS

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

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Dear Mahalakshmi

 

I am not sure where u r from but if u obsere their founding fathers had some

depth of knowledge, both in astrology and vaastru, astrology the oath taking

shows

 

vaastu to the extent possible all states r cut like a cake around the

nearest geogrophical feature and each state has 17 equal size districts too.

irrespective of the size easy to admin also

I saw a book on their early years original USA is SE/ USA of today rest went

on adding up.

 

Prashant

 

On 1/21/09, mahaluxmi iyer <astromahaluxmi wrote:

>

> you are right prashant.

> i stand corrected.

> then its almost as if all nations follow this abhijit mahurat and dont want

> to take any chances.

> some protection is better than none at all.

> also getting the perfect combinations in a chart is almost impossible most

> times. so many play it safe by choosing the noon or midnight to protect them

> for any blemishes which a chart may have for starting imp things.

> thank you.

> mahalakshmi

>

> astro desk <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> Dear Mahalakshmi

>

> I am sure u were following Indian TV networks then

>

> I watced BBC, CNN and also the link to it is here

>

>

>

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Schedule_of_events_for_Obamas_inauguration/ar\

ticleshow/4005621.cms

>

> th e BBC coverage clearly says the PRESIDENTS MAKE IT A POINT to do it at

> noon [fuss[ here it was a few min past it]

>

> FYI most activities in US are launced at 10.30IST or 12.00 ET in US even

> the

> gulf wars 1, 2 the attack on Afghanistan, Iraq etc u can search the

> archives

> of this preferably a sound byte

>

> VP as sorn at 11.31 ET and P at 12.05 Hrs ET.

>

> Prashant

>

> On 1/21/09, mahaluxmi iyer

<astromahaluxmi<astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>>

> wrote:

> >

> > dear satish

> >

> > no. this time around the swearing in took place at exactly 10.36 local

> time

> > washington dc! and not around 12 noon as suggested by prashant.

> > so sun is in the 11H instead of the 10th.

> > this chart has meena rising and therefore, the entire scenario changes.

> >

> > there are a couple of vipreet raja yogas in this chart.

> >

> > must rush now on some errands!

> >

> > mahalakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> > SPK <aquaris_rising <aquaris_rising%40><aquaris_rising%

> 40>> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > Most presidents in modern ra have taken oath around noon time. In Dc

> there

> > will always be mesh lagna rising on Jan 20, and sun will always be in the

> 10

> > th house. Same was the case for bush, clinton, etc.

> >

> > I would look for other things in the chart for its promise, or otherwise

> we

> > have to conclude the same for every president.

> >

> > Satish

> >

> > ________________________________

> > mahaluxmi iyer

<astromahaluxmi<astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>

> <astromahaluxmi%40.co.in>

> > >

> >

<%40><%

> 40>

> > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:13:24 AM

> > Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

> >

> > dear prashant,

> >

> > read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today,

> > 20th jan. at 12 noon.

> >

> > imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

> > following reasons.

> >

> > 1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

> > 2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12

> noon

> > or midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available

> > from sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

> > 3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

> > blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have

> explained

> > about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

> > presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

> > 4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

> > better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which

> is

> > battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit

> crunch,

> > etc.

> >

> > so all may not be so gloomy after all.

> > all of us should wish this young president administers the best of

> policies

> > to see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his

> countrymen

> > who reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place

> > for the great revival.

> >

> > mahalakshmi

> >

> > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> wrote:

> > Dear Members

> >

> > President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON

> ET

> >

> > Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

> >

> > Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

> > own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

> >

> > Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

> > 10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

> >

> > the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

> >

> > but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

> >

> > the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

> > LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

> > the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

> > in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

> >

> > Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of

> 20th

> > Jan 09

> > Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

> >

> > Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

> >

> > It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

> > successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger

> > on

> > his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a

> speech

> > in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

> >

> > sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET

> > STUCK

> > IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

> >

> > Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published

> > Birth

> > certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

> >

> > it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to

> make

> > a

> > impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

> > there do a better job than in India.

> >

> > Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

> > that also in due course.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

> non

> > Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

> > verify

> > ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

> > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> > folder.

> > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> > ICAS

> >

> >

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Hi M

This is the same though have to say my co ordinates are 21N18 29 and 157W21 30

but I have used 19 11 birth time due to this being fed to the list at some

stage, where did you get 17 24 from?

Thanks M

-

mahaluxmi iyer

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:45 PM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

 

hi margaret,

are these the co-ords you are using for obama's chart?

 

4th August, 1961

19.24Hrs

Honolulu, Hawaii (157 W 51 and 21 N 18)

10Hrs West of GMT

Rohini 1st quarter, moon at 10 Tau 02

lagna at 25 Cp 00

 

if this is not the right chart, would you like to share the details which you

have worked on?

 

best wishes

mahalakshmi

 

 

Marg <margie9 wrote:

Hi Mahaluxmi and all

I agree with what you say that mid day is always the best time for any good

undertaking and for ensuring success, even if the day is not considered

generally favourable. I also took another look at Obama's chart do you think he

is already on the way to expecting a third child?

regards M

-

mahaluxmi iyer

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:13 PM

Re: Obama's Swearing in time Jan 20 09

 

dear prashant,

 

read with interest your analysis on the oath taking chart of obama today, 20th

jan. at 12 noon.

 

imho, obama could not have chosen a better time to take the oath for the

following reasons.

 

1. it happens to be the 8th muhurta of the day.

2. usually it lasts for about 48 minutes, 24 minutes plus or minus 12 noon or

midnight as the case may be, depending on the length of time available from

sunrise to sunset for the particular day under consideration.

3. this time is considered quite auspicious and believed to remove the

blemishes which are otherwise present in such a chart as you have explained

about the moon being neecha in the 8H, affliction of the 10H where rahu's

presence alongwith a krur graha, surya, etc.

4. since the oath is to be taken at 12 noon itself, there could not be a

better time than this to get on with bringing much hope to america which is

battered with multiple problems of bad economy, unemployment, credit crunch,

etc.

 

so all may not be so gloomy after all.

all of us should wish this young president administers the best of policies to

see through difficult times such as these for the sake of his countrymen who

reposed great faith in his abilities which are yet to be put in place for the

great revival.

 

mahalakshmi

 

astro desk <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

Dear Members

 

President Elect Obama is expected to be sworn in US president at 12 NOON ET

 

Lagna is Mesha, Chandra in Vrischika in ANuradha star D9 Lagna is Tula

 

Lagna Lord Kuja in 9th is well placed in a friendly sign Dhanur. in D9 in

own Navamsa with Ketu in 2nd.

 

Dasa at start is Sani who is in 5th retrograde, aspected by Kuja from the

10th- in the cruel 8th aspect who is already afflicted by Rahu+ ravi

 

the depositor of Sani , ravi is in 6/8 to it. AND A PARIVARTANA OF SORTS.

 

but Guru may add some shield of sorts.

 

the overall affliction to the chart from Chandra in the 8th a BALARISHTA

LAGNA LORD AFLICTED in D9 in 2nd

the 10th overloaded with Malefic influences, eclipse so close to the date

in U, Ashada, Sravana a trine to His natal star

 

Sani-Bud-ket- rah-sani operates from Jan 19th 7 H 48M to 16.30 Hrs of 20th

Jan 09

Ravi Bud, Gur are in the 6th in D9.

 

Sani in Simha has 2 Bindhus of a total of 25 SLIGHTLY WEAKER.

 

It is unlikely that all the hype on his election will translates into a

successful reign and I have already published he may face physical danger on

his person in a foreign land much before he announced he will make a speech

in a place marked by it to make his stand clear

 

sUKRA THE WAR LORD OF THE mUHIRTHA IS IN 11TH A FIXED SIGN SO WILL GET STUCK

IN SOME NEW ONES AS sUKRA IS in 8th in D9 with rahu

 

Feb 5th is a sensitive date for him. [all these r based on his Published Birth

certificate with Makara Lagna rising 4/Aug/61 @ 7.24 Hrs Hawaii].

 

it could be Pak, afghan, Iraq, Isreal or Korea as potential places to make a

impact.but all these places are risk prone we hope the security agencies

there do a better job than in India.

 

Such readings need to be backed by the National Horoscope of USA will do

that also in due course.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify

ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS

 

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