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Dear Shri Bohra Ji

 

Shri Narasimha had begun with 180 degrees which is exact border

between Virgo-Libra.His argument was mooladhara is at the middle of

12 worlds or so.There is no pramana for this.

 

When debated upon shri Narasimha was fair enough to agree that he was

in a haste.He was also honest to say that he is now not

 

sure of longitudes. Then he changed his view and concluded that

mooladhara is in Libra.(Within the Vasti sac).

 

Shri Narasimha had argued using vicinity of sc/li/vi etc. However my

view is simple.Pramana for mooladhara locates it between

 

guda and linga. ''Dhwajadho Gudordhwam''.Shri Chandrahari points this

to 240 degrees not based on any assumption or

 

vicinity.He has given numerous parallels between astronomy,human

body/kundalini/shiva/deepavali/Yoga shareera and Cosmic man.

 

Now even physically it does not need much effort to identify the

intersection of thighs with the region between anus and linga.

 

Prithvi tattwa can point to the basic nature or moola prakriti. The

pranic activity is related to excretion.Moolam in my

 

mother toungue means anus apart from root(for eg root of a plant).

Moolam or Moola also means the karana or cause. Root is

 

the beginning and hence the term root cause. Also try to study views

regarding yoga practise called moola bandha.

 

Yogic positions are called ''asanas'' as they are ''seated''

positions. When we are seated, moola will touch floor/prithvi.We

 

should understand the difference between a seated man and a standing

man w.r to yoga and transformation.

 

Thus to me rather than imagining between virgo to libra based on

assumptions, Chandraharis views regarding starting point are rooted

on solid foundations and supported by pramanas. Computation of

ayanamsha and correctness of its value is something different which

one can experiment. But Moolam is the best candidate for root or

beggining and hence Chandraharis foundations/starting points are

intuitive and sound.

 

To be continued

 

Pradeep

 

msbohra62 wrote:

>

>

> Some typing mistake in my previous post so correcting here.

>

> Dear Pradeepji,

>

> Some question arise in my mind about the link of Mooladhar Chakra in

> human body and it location.Please see the some point it is right or

> wrong :-

>

> Muladhara is the root centre of physical experience, located at the

> base of the spine, the sacral plexus.

> The square represents the earth itself, the four dimensions and the

> four directions. Four allows for completion, and earth embodies the

> elements and conditions for human completion on all levels.

> Patience and greed are the attributes of this element, survival its

> desire, collecting and saving are its activity. Muladhara Chakra is

> the meeting place of the three main nadis: Ida, Pingala and

Sushumna.

> The downward-pointing triangle indicates the downward movement of

> energy and the three main nadis.

> The seed mantra is Lam, the yellow square represents the earth

> element. The chakra governs the vital breath Apana. An inverted

> triangle in the centre of the square encloses the unmanifest

Kundalini

> in three and a half coils around the svayambhu (self born) linga.

With

> her mouth open, facing upward, she is connected with the path of

> Sushumna, the central nerve canal that runs along the spine.

> --------

> The first center is called the Mooladhara center. It has four petals

> (sub-plexuses), is placed below the triangular bone, and is

> responsible on the physical level of the manifestation of the pelvic

> plexus which looks after all our excretion, inclusive of sex

activity.

> When the Kundalini rises, then this center becomes inactive in the

> excretion functions but active in the support of the rising of the

> Kundalini. Though the Kundalini has to rise through six centers, the

> first center of Mooladhara protects the purity of chastity of the

> Kundalini at the time of its awakening "

>

> The Mooladhara Chakra governs the excretory and reproductive organs,

> and as such has a direct bearing on the sexual aspects of the human

> being. There have been attempts in the past to awaken the Kundalini

> through sexual practice such as tantra.

>

> In women it located :-Moola bandha (cervix)

> In man it located :-Moola bandha (between anus and scrotum;

> perineal body)

> -------------------

> The four petals of the Mooladhara chakra can be likened to the four

> arms of the Hindu deity Shri Ganesha. In traditional iconography He

is

> shown holding a different object in each of His four hands. The

> Mooladhara chakra, with its four petals, or sub-plexuses, is the

> foundation of the Tree of Life, or the subtle sytem of seven chakras

> (energy centres), in the human body. The Mooladhara Chakra gives us

> our grounding in Reality, and the sense of orientation in space.

> -------------------------

>

> These three sources says Mooladhar Chakra is above the Anus and in

> between Anus and reproductive organs.Mooladhar is " Prthavi " tatva

and

> activation Karka for Sex.

>

> What do you have your opinion in Kalpursa,Rashi representation and

the

> real house in a Kalpursa chart about Mooladhar chakra ?

>

> In my view Virgo is Bhomi tatva and Libra is Vayu tatva,Virgo is

> 'Estree' and Libra is 'Pursha'.Sex organ or reproduction repersent

7th

> house and lord of 7th house,Venus is Karka for Sex,these all

> possibilities says Mooladhar chakra is related to 7th house.It may

be

> between 6th and 7th or 7th and 8th house only.It is not possible it

> has located in 9th house od Kalpursa chart.So it is between 150

degree

> to 240 degrees not above 240 degree Where Mool Nakshatra started.

>

> Do you still think Narhimaha Rao ji is wrong?

>

> I have join this forum just few month ago,nice to see your first

post

> here.I hope,We will get your company to learn more in future.

>

> Thanks,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

> , " msbohra62 "

> <msbohra62@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeepji,

> >

> > Some question arise in my mind about the link of Mooladhar Chakra

in

> > human body and it location.Please see the some point it is right

or

> > wrong :-

> >

> > Muladhara is the root centre of physical experience, located at

the

> > base of the spine, the sacral plexus.

> > The square represents the earth itself, the four dimensions

and the

> > four directions. Four allows for completion, and earth embodies

the

> > elements and conditions for human completion on all levels.

> > Patience and greed are the attributes of this element,

survival its

> > desire, collecting and saving are its activity. Muladhara Chakra

is

> > the meeting place of the three main nadis: Ida, Pingala and

Sushumna.

> > The downward-pointing triangle indicates the downward movement of

> > energy and the three main nadis.

> > The seed mantra is Lam, the yellow square represents the earth

> > element. The chakra governs the vital breath Apana. An inverted

> > triangle in the centre of the square encloses the unmanifest

Kundalini

> > in three and a half coils around the svayambhu (self born) linga.

With

> > her mouth open, facing upward, she is connected with the path of

> > Sushumna, the central nerve canal that runs along the spine.

> > --------

> > The first center is called the Mooladhara center. It has four

petals

> > (sub-plexuses), is placed below the triangular bone, and is

> > responsible on the physical level of the manifestation of the

pelvic

> > plexus which looks after all our excretion, inclusive of sex

activity.

> > When the Kundalini rises, then this center becomes inactive in the

> > excretion functions but active in the support of the rising of the

> > Kundalini. Though the Kundalini has to rise through six centers,

the

> > first center of Mooladhara protects the purity of chastity of the

> > Kundalini at the time of its awakening "

> >

> > The Mooladhara Chakra governs the excretory and reproductive

organs,

> > and as such has a direct bearing on the sexual aspects of the

human

> > being. There have been attempts in the past to awaken the

Kundalini

> > through sexual practice such as tantra.

> >

> > In women it located :-Moola bandha (cervix)

> > In man it located :-Moola bandha (between anus and scrotum;

> > perineal body)

> > -------------------

> > The four petals of the Mooladhara chakra can be likened to the

four

> > arms of the Hindu deity Shri Ganesha. In traditional iconography

He is

> > shown holding a different object in each of His four hands. The

> > Mooladhara chakra, with its four petals, or sub-plexuses, is the

> > foundation of the Tree of Life, or the subtle sytem of seven

chakras

> > (energy centres), in the human body. The Mooladhara Chakra gives

us

> > our grounding in Reality, and the sense of orientation in space.

> > -------------------------

> >

> > These three sources says Mooladhar Chakra is above the Anus and in

> > between Anus and reproductive organs.Mooladhar is " Prthavi " tatva

and

> > activation Karka for Sex.

> >

> > What do you have your opinion in Kalpursa,Rashi representation

and the

> > real house in a Kalpursa chart about Mooladhar chakra ?

> >

> > In my view Virgo is Bhomi tatva and Libra is Vayu tatva,Virgo is

> > 'Estree' and Libra is 'Pursha'.Sex organ or reproduction

repersent 7th

> > house and lord of 7th house,Venus is Karka for Sex,these all

> > possibilities says Mooladhar chakra is related to 7th house.It

may be

> > between 6th and 7th or 7th and 8th house only.It is not possible

it

> > has located in 9th house od Kalpursa chart.So it is between 180

degree

> > to 270 degrees not above 270 degree Where Mool Nakshatra started.

> >

> > Do you still think Narhimaha Rao ji is wrong?

> >

> > I have join this forum just few month ago,nice to see your first

post

> > here.I hope,We will get your company to learn more in future.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> >

> > --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vinay Ji Namaskar

> > >

> > > Due to time constraint i was unable to read all your emails.

However i

> > > would like to make the following observations.

> > >

> > >

> > > I myslef had mentioned in my telephonic conversations with shri

> > > Chandrahari in the past, about his temper and style. His answer

was

> > > diplomacy is hypocrycy.In certain respects his rosha is genuine

and in

> > > certain respects he may exercise more tolerance. But i am not

> competent

> > > enough to advise or judge whether Chandra ji is right or

> wrong.Only his

> > > conscience will know if his rosha is genuine or not!

> > >

> > > Let us keep aside whether Chandrahari ayanamsha is correct or

not.

> This

> > > is something which needs study and experimentation.

> > >

> > > However your attempt to prove that wrong and ridicule his

studies

> using

> > > emails from Shri P.V.Narasimha Rao holds no authenticity.It is

due to

> > > the following reasons -

> > >

> > > 1) Shri Narasimha Rao did not study the fundamentals underlying

> the said

> > > Ayanamsha calculation.

> > >

> > > 2) He was eager to rule out moola/mooladhara and was more

> interested in

> > > fixing mooladhara of kalapurusha in virgo rashi, which has no

> > > classical/astrological or philosophical basis.There was no

pramana

> > > either to support his views.

> > >

> > > 3) He was not willing to respect the pramana defining the

location of

> > > moola. Thus you see shri Narasimha Rao did not follow the rules

of

> Tarka

> > > /Pramana. Thus how can you bring his views as support ? My

respect

> > > towards shri Rao is purely based on his his astrological

software.

> > >

> > > 4) Your mail from Shri Sanjay Rath too does not hold any

> > > authenticity.Shri Rath had once asked me if mooladhara origin is

> towards

> > > end of Vrischika(molaldahara pramana) - how and why does moola

extend

> > > into dhanu-thighs ? . My answer was though a root will start at

the

> > > contact point between a plant and soil , it extends beneath and

is

> > > really rooted downwards.He did not give any answer later on.

Thighs

> > > gives us the strength to stand up and the roots run into dhanu.

It is

> > > also the galactic center. Ganapati is situated in Mooladhara

> kshethra ,

> > > which is ruled by naksathra ketu, which is also the

moolatrikona for

> > > Guru.End of Vrischika marks the boundary of our material realm

(or a

> > > certain loka) guarded by Mars the Senapati.Brhaspati and

ShaniDev is

> > > another angle/Tala. From the Martain border,Subramanaya can

lead the

> > > army and is capable of piercing the chakras one by one.There is

> lot more

> > > to say and when time comes Lord will reveal more.

> > >

> > > Thus if you are sincere please be neutral. Don't try to bring

in the

> > > goodwill of shri PVR got through software to support other

areas,

> where

> > > he fails to follow the laws of Tarka. I can see a marked change

in

> shri

> > > Rao and his willingness to come up and fight against illogical

> > > theories.However that is not sufficient. As human beings we all

are

> > > (including myself who is doing the preaching) have got

limitations.

> > > However as a a sincere student of this Mahashasthra one should

have

> > > non-a compromising will and should be willing to fight for

truth.

> > >

> > > Neither Parashara Muni nor Shri Rath nor Shri Rao nor you nor

me can

> > > vioalte fundamentals.

> > >

> > > Shri Rath is right in saying that philosophical angle in depth

is

> to be

> > > understood in unearthing the karya/karana behind Jyothisha

> > > principles.However he should not forget that Jyotish itself is a

> > > shasthra with defined classical rules.Extended Philosophy is no

> passport

> > > to to violate fundamentals. Many a times students including me

have

> > > fought a lot to point out the above said violations. However

shri Rao

> > > did not come to any support then. However TIME has proved that

(as i

> > > always beleived and will always beleive in) Truth alone will

prevail.

> > >

> > > I have nothing against any of these individuals as they have

been

> > > sacrificing their personal life and time for the cause of

> > > Jyotish.However one cannot turn a blind eye when fundamental

> principles

> > > are ignored and treated with scant respect.

> > >

> > > I have some doubts on your articles and will ask as a seperate

email.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your patience

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

>