Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 It is in response to wrong statements issued by Mr Chandra Hari today at : /message/17338 Actual computations according to ancient siddhantic method is very easy now-a-days, due to computers. Even a middle school student can learn the method, which many so-called experts do not know due to their hatred for ancient things. I am here illustrating this technique with one example. The earliest existing complete tables of Suryasiddhanta are Makaranda Tables constructed around 1478 AD, which has been published in many languages during past two centuries, and its first verse declares that it is Suryasiddhantic. Earlist existing commentary or complete text of Suryasiddhanta belongs to the time of Jehangir. No panchanga can be made directly by siddhantic method, ie, by computing from the beginning of Creation (Shrishti). For instance, midnight of mean Mesha Samkranti of 2009 AD has an ahargana (number of days from zero date, ie start of Creation) equal to 714404162734 days. To compute planetary positions by computing with such large quantities is beyond the powers of mortals without the aid of computers. For instance, moon revolves 57753336 times in its orbit during one mahayuga of 4320000 years or 1577917828 days according to Suryasiddhanta, which gives a daily mean motion of : ( 57753336 x 360 degrees ) / 1577917828 = 13.17635214652 degrees per day Now, 714404162734 x 13.17635214652 = 9413240823122.975086 degrees or 26147891175.34159746 revolutions since Creation. By multiplying the fraction with 360 degrees, we get 122.975086 degrees (Nirayana Simha or Leo) which is value of mean Moon on the next mean Mesha Samkranti. Can anyone compute entire panchanga for a whole year without any computers from this Siddhantic method ( I made above computations on a 34-digit precision Microsoft software, but show the results here in concise forms) ? To make the task easy, Tantra and Karana texts were prepared (Kaliyuga start for Tantra text, nearby date for Karana text) , in which planetary positions for any convenient date were given readymade, and panchanga makers had to make computations only from this nearby date. But even this much was too labourious a process. Therefore, some tables were prepared to make task easy. Varaha Mihira clearly states that his Panchsiddhantika was for a zero date of 505 AD, which makes it a Karana text. I repeat my request to Mr Chandra Hari to throw light on the actual method of computation used by Varaha Mihira, showing his value of beej which he declares to be a " mystery " . I am now convinced that Mr Chandra Hari has no experience of actual computations according to ancient Indian siddhantas. He wrongly assumes that cowries were used instead of tables. Mr Chandra Hari does not even know that siddhantic method cannot be used to make panchangas directly without the help of computers, cowries or abracadabras are helpful for integers, not for irrational quantities requiring a minimum of well over 20 digits of precision. I has to wait for CVar function in Visual Basic to arrive in market whill facilitated 29 digits of precision, before that popular computer languages like VB or C & c were not able to make Suryasiddhantic computations from the start of Creation. Proofs of earlist Suryasiddhantic tables were unearthed from Thailand in 19th century by a French ambassador. The manuscript is later but its zero date proves that this Siamese Table, as it is called, was created in 7th century AD. It is still intact as it was found, although it was incomplete even when it was discovered ; please ask Mr Chandra Hari to locate it instead of spreading rumours that there were no tables in ancient period. Ask the authorities of ancient Indian astrology, who teach it in recognized universities, whether Makaranda Table preceded oldest extant manuscript or commentary or not, and whether Makaranda Table declares itself to be Suryasiddhantic or not in its first verse. If Reverend Burgess did not mention these facts clearly, it was his fault, not mine, for which I am being abused a person who wrongly poses as an expert in ancient Indian astronomy / astrology. It is wrong to declare that Makaranda Tables are later fabrications (I am using the term " wrong " ; not terms like " fraud " & c, because I think use of such terms should be reserved only for criminals, not for men of letters, even if they are in the wrong). I am ready to give telephone numbers of some of the topmost authorities in this field, who are acceted as authorities by govt and courts of law as well, who may be directly contacted to clarigy the doubts created by Mr Chandra Hari's wrong statements : Dr Radhakant Mishra, Professor & Head of Dept & of Faculty of Jyotisha, KSD Sanskrit University (Darbhanga) Dr Nagendra Pandey, Head of Dept of Jyotisha, Sampoornanand Sanskrit University (Varanasi) Dr Kameshwar Upadhyaya, former editor of Vishva Panchanga of BHU (Benaras University) Dr Shivakant Mishra, Professor in Jyotisha, KSD Sanskrit University (Darbhanga) Dr Udishta Narain Jha, Reader in Jyotisha, KSD Sanskrit University (Darbhanga) I can give telephone numbers of hundreds of such authorities who are entitled to teach this subject in institutions recognized by UGC and Govt of India. It is wrong to allege that all those authorities are " monkeys " whom Mr Chandra Hari does not like !! -VJ ======== ======== ======== ======== ======== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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