Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dear Members, You are looking for some chart on this thread,please find here as below :- Person A(Person is suffering hair loss) :- DOB :13-14/11/1980 TOB :1:35 am POB : Jaipur(Rajasthan) Person B (Lost all most all hair,just boundery wall):- DOB :7-2-1962 TOB : 23:49 POB : Jodhpur(Rajasthan) Person C ( He have very rich hair on his head,Leo Lagana with Sun in Aries):- DOB : 20-5-1961 TOB : 14:00 POB : Jodhpur (rajasthan) I hope these are helpful to further discussion. Thanks, M.S.Bohra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dear Souvik ji, et all , I have read about Sun in Lagna causing baldness, But in my case I have Dhanu rasi Guru fully aspecting the lagna from from the 7th (of course Budha in 10th is neech-Bhang) But am also Bald ..........Could never understand the reason for this !Date of birth : 13 March 1972Time of birth : 14:14 minPlace of birth : Varanasi UP India (25.20 North 83.0 East) Current Dasha : Guru > Rahu > Sani > Guru > Guru > BudhGuru Mahadasha ending : 2009-Sept-04 Nirayan Longitude Nakshatra & Pada Rasi Lord N.Lord & N.Sublord Lagna Mithun 26° 00' 24" Punarvasu Pada: 2 Budh Guru KetuSurya Kumbh 29° 22' 00" Poorvabhadrapada Pada: 3 Sani Guru SuryaChandra Kumbh 00° 02' 36" Dhanistha Pada: 3 Sani Mangal BudhMangal Mesh 27° 26' 37" Krittika Pada: 1 Mangal Surya ChandraBudh Meena 17° 35' 43" Revati Pada: 1 Guru Budh BudhGuru Dhanu 12° 07' 48" Moola Pada: 4 Guru Ketu BudhLet me know if u can see a reason/cure for this .ThanksTimesunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 1:31:26 PM Re: Head-Hair Issues hare rama krishna dear souvik ji i agree with ur obseravtions ,i dont know abt 2 nd and 3rd one ,but sun in lagna can do it . (as sun in graha swaroopa as alpa kacha -less hair in horas ) also i think malefics in lagna with other malefics drishti ( parasari ) or agnimarutha yogas happening in lagna also can contribute it even malefic lagna alord in lagna can also may contribute it rest we can discuss if some one can post some charts regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ancient_indian_ astrology, "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members,> > I have observed that people with the following astrological > combinations seems to have head-hair issues.> > 1) Sun in Lagna in Rasi chart within +/- 2 degree of Lagna> 2) Sun in Aries/Leo aspecting Lagna in Rasi chart by Rasi drishti> 3) Sun in Navamsa Lagna within +/- 2 degree of Navamsa Lagna> > I have seen for the third point the native seems to have a large > forehead.> > I would ask members to share their experience with baldness cases.> > Regards,> > Souvik> Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear Tim.jorge . with supplied time and date i am getting cancer lagna ( Not mithun as claimed by u ) with ketu in it aspected by mars frm mesha and sani in vrishab rasies . so agnimaruta is effectiv and may b even skin diseses possible too .Even the planets is causing some health problems too i blv . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , Tim Jorge <tim.jorge wrote:>> Dear Souvik ji, et all ,> > I have read about Sun in Lagna causing baldness, > But in my case I have Dhanu rasi Guru fully aspecting the lagna from from the 7th (of course Budha in 10th is neech-Bhang) Butam also Bald ...........Could never understand the reason for this !> > > Date of birth : 13 March 1972> Time of birth : 14:14 min> Place of birth : Varanasi UP India (25.20 North 83.0 East) > > Current Dasha : Guru > Rahu > Sani > Guru > Guru > Budh> Guru Mahadasha ending : 2009-Sept-04 > > Nirayan Longitude Nakshatra & Pada Rasi Lord N.Lord & N.Sublord > > Lagna Mithun 26° 00' 24" Punarvasu Pada: 2 Budh Guru Ketu> Surya Kumbh 29° 22' 00" Poorvabhadrapada Pada: 3 Sani Guru Surya> Chandra Kumbh 00° 02' 36" Dhanistha Pada: 3 Sani Mangal Budh> Mangal Mesh 27° 26' 37" Krittika Pada: 1 Mangal Surya Chandra> Budh Meena 17° 35' 43" Revati Pada: 1 Guru Budh Budh> Guru Dhanu 12° 07' 48" Moola Pada: 4 Guru Ketu Budh> > Let me know if u can see a reason/cure for this .> > Thanks> > Time> > > ________________________________> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 1:31:26 PM> Re: Head-Hair Issues> > > > hare rama krishna> dear souvik ji > > i agree with ur obseravtions ,i dont know abt 2 nd and 3rd one ,but sun in lagna can do it .> (as sun in graha swaroopa as alpa kacha -less hair in horas ) > also i think malefics in lagna with other malefics drishti ( parasari ) or agnimarutha yogas happening in lagna also can contribute it > even malefic lagna alord in lagna can also may contribute it > > rest we can discuss if some one can post some charts > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear members,> > > > I have observed that people with the following astrological > > combinations seems to have head-hair issues.> > > > 1) Sun in Lagna in Rasi chart within +/- 2 degree of Lagna> > 2) Sun in Aries/Leo aspecting Lagna in Rasi chart by Rasi drishti> > 3) Sun in Navamsa Lagna within +/- 2 degree of Navamsa Lagna> > > > I have seen for the third point the native seems to have a large > > forehead.> > > > I would ask members to share their experience with baldness cases.> > > > Regards,> > > > Souvik> >> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Ooops sorry : Time of birth : 13:14 min ________________________________ sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 6:01:00 PM Re: Head-Hair Issues Hare ramakrishna dear Tim.jorge . with supplied time and date i am getting cancer lagna ( Not mithun as claimed by u ) with ketu in it aspected by mars frm mesha and sani in vrishab rasies . so agnimaruta is effectiv and may b even skin diseses possible too .Even the planets is causing some health problems too i blv . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ancient_indian_ astrology, Tim Jorge <tim.jorge@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Souvik ji, et all , > > I have read about Sun in Lagna causing baldness, > But in my case I have Dhanu rasi Guru fully aspecting the lagna from from the 7th (of course Budha in 10th is neech-Bhang) Butam also Bald ...........Could never understand the reason for this ! > > > Date of birth : 13 March 1972 > Time of birth : 14:14 min > Place of birth : Varanasi UP India (25.20 North 83.0 East) > > Current Dasha : Guru > Rahu > Sani > Guru > Guru > Budh > Guru Mahadasha ending : 2009-Sept-04 > > Nirayan Longitude Nakshatra & Pada Rasi Lord N.Lord & N.Sublord > > Lagna Mithun 26° 00' 24 " Punarvasu Pada: 2 Budh Guru Ketu > Surya Kumbh 29° 22' 00 " Poorvabhadrapada Pada: 3 Sani Guru Surya > Chandra Kumbh 00° 02' 36 " Dhanistha Pada: 3 Sani Mangal Budh > Mangal Mesh 27° 26' 37 " Krittika Pada: 1 Mangal Surya Chandra > Budh Meena 17° 35' 43 " Revati Pada: 1 Guru Budh Budh > Guru Dhanu 12° 07' 48 " Moola Pada: 4 Guru Ketu Budh > > Let me know if u can see a reason/cure for this . > > Thanks > > Time > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ .... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 1:31:26 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Head-Hair Issues > > > > hare rama krishna > dear souvik ji > > i agree with ur obseravtions ,i dont know abt 2 nd and 3rd one ,but sun in lagna can do it . > (as sun in graha swaroopa as alpa kacha -less hair in horas ) > also i think malefics in lagna with other malefics drishti ( parasari ) or agnimarutha yogas happening in lagna also can contribute it > even malefic lagna alord in lagna can also may contribute it > > rest we can discuss if some one can post some charts > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > I have observed that people with the following astrological > > combinations seems to have head-hair issues. > > > > 1) Sun in Lagna in Rasi chart within +/- 2 degree of Lagna > > 2) Sun in Aries/Leo aspecting Lagna in Rasi chart by Rasi drishti > > 3) Sun in Navamsa Lagna within +/- 2 degree of Navamsa Lagna > > > > I have seen for the third point the native seems to have a large > > forehead. > > > > I would ask members to share their experience with baldness cases. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 dear friends the observations in this thread are true in most, if not all, cases. many charts of my customers with sun in lagna got baldness to males and loss of hair or thin hair to females. by the way, i have sun in leo in lagna and have a wide forehead with semi bald head already. though unrelated with hair, i always felt heat in my head and never felt cold even in the icy himalayas where i stayed for some time and took baths in icy glacier melten streams. in normal city dwelling also, i take only cold water baths even in winters. though not astro principle corroborated, not feeling cold in winters can be attributed to sun placement in my case. hence members can add one more testimonial from me that sun in lagna causes baldhead. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Souvik ji, > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates intelligence with > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- known > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the results. > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak for hair. > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly described as > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and Venus. > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your observation > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from the > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear MS Bohra ji Person A(Person is suffering hair loss) :-DOB :13-14/11/1980TOB :1:35 amPOB : Jaipur(Rajasthan) ans-The chart posted earlier by sri Tim jorge has good similarity with this chart and many of the points discussed is applcable here ,ref messge no 16441 on my reply on it .Person B (Lost all most all hair,just boundery wall):-DOB :7-2-1962TOB : 23:49POB : Jodhpur(Rajasthan) ans-Almost all planets afflicted one way or other and in saptagraha yoga ( such yoga happens when there is turmoil in nation and lot of blood shed ),so here lagna Lord and moon sign lord and karaka for lagna and lagnas ( both ) afflicted along with its lords . Person C ( He have very rich hair on his head,Leo Lagana with Sun inAries):-DOB : 20-5-1961TOB : 14:00POB : Jodhpur (rajasthan) Ans -Moon sign is stronger and in agnimaruta yoga In many cases the karaka for hair sat also has an addition say .In most cases navamsa has not much influence i am seeing in quick glance ,except v few cases ( generaly observed not posted here ) we can say sure in most of cases the hair fall or atleast problems in head area .Ladies we hav to see with more care as feminine hormones has diffrnt say may b .if some ladies chart some one can post we can see more defenite way .( but still i dont think they will hav v v strong thick hair in head like our poetical imagination ) Further commnts and obseravations r expected frm learned membrs . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "msbohra62" <msbohra62 wrote:>> Dear Members,> > You are looking for some chart on this thread,please find here as below :-> > Person A(Person is suffering hair loss) :-> DOB :13-14/11/1980> TOB :1:35 am> POB : Jaipur(Rajasthan)> > Person B (Lost all most all hair,just boundery wall):-> DOB :7-2-1962> TOB : 23:49> POB : Jodhpur(Rajasthan)> > > Person C ( He have very rich hair on his head,Leo Lagana with Sun in> Aries):-> DOB : 20-5-1961> TOB : 14:00> POB : Jodhpur (rajasthan)> > I hope these are helpful to further discussion.> > Thanks,> > M.S.Bohra> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dear tim ji pls see the data 's accuracy b4 u post generaly astrologers wont see again if the info supplied in wrong as it amnts bad nimitta u lagna is papakartakri and lagna Lord is also papakartari and born in krishna paksha Moon tryodasi thithi in nite .Lagna karaka sun and deha karaka is afflicted by sat . lagna Lord is also debilated tho neecha banga is there in bhava chart again rahu and ketu moves to lagna and 7th axis and it affects lagna 2nd house has gulika so the lagna is papa kartari karaka for face venus also afflicted along with 2nd house and weak 2nd lord . this may b reasons with this combo i will not declare this results b4 hand unless i saw the person ( means in blind reading i may fail ) .may b there is other combinations ( actualy i studied and forget now as we r not using this on daily basis ) regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , Tim Jorge <tim.jorge wrote:>> Ooops sorry : Time of birth : 13:14 min> > > > ________________________________> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 6:01:00 PM> Re: Head-Hair Issues> > > Hare ramakrishna> dear Tim.jorge .> > with supplied time and date i am getting cancer lagna ( Not mithun as claimed by u ) with ketu in it aspected by mars frm mesha and sani in vrishab rasies .> > so agnimaruta is effectiv and may b even skin diseses possible too .Even the planets is causing some health problems too i blv .> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Tim Jorge tim.jorge@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Souvik ji, et all ,> >> > I have read about Sun in Lagna causing baldness,> > But in my case I have Dhanu rasi Guru fully aspecting the lagna from from the 7th (of course Budha in 10th is neech-Bhang) Butam also Bald ...........Could never understand the reason for this !> >> >> > Date of birth : 13 March 1972> > Time of birth : 14:14 min> > Place of birth : Varanasi UP India (25.20 North 83.0 East)> >> > Current Dasha : Guru > Rahu > Sani > Guru > Guru > Budh> > Guru Mahadasha ending : 2009-Sept-04> >> > Nirayan Longitude Nakshatra & Pada Rasi Lord N.Lord & N.Sublord> >> > Lagna Mithun 26° 00' 24" Punarvasu Pada: 2 Budh Guru Ketu> > Surya Kumbh 29° 22' 00" Poorvabhadrapada Pada: 3 Sani Guru Surya> > Chandra Kumbh 00° 02' 36" Dhanistha Pada: 3 Sani Mangal Budh> > Mangal Mesh 27° 26' 37" Krittika Pada: 1 Mangal Surya Chandra> > Budh Meena 17° 35' 43" Revati Pada: 1 Guru Budh Budh> > Guru Dhanu 12° 07' 48" Moola Pada: 4 Guru Ketu Budh> >> > Let me know if u can see a reason/cure for this .> >> > Thanks> >> > Time> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ....> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 1:31:26 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Head-Hair Issues> >> >> >> > hare rama krishna> > dear souvik ji> >> > i agree with ur obseravtions ,i dont know abt 2 nd and 3rd one ,but sun in lagna can do it .> > (as sun in graha swaroopa as alpa kacha -less hair in horas )> > also i think malefics in lagna with other malefics drishti ( parasari ) or agnimarutha yogas happening in lagna also can contribute it> > even malefic lagna alord in lagna can also may contribute it> >> > rest we can discuss if some one can post some charts> >> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear members,> > >> > > I have observed that people with the following astrological> > > combinations seems to have head-hair issues.> > >> > > 1) Sun in Lagna in Rasi chart within +/- 2 degree of Lagna> > > 2) Sun in Aries/Leo aspecting Lagna in Rasi chart by Rasi drishti> > > 3) Sun in Navamsa Lagna within +/- 2 degree of Navamsa Lagna> > >> > > I have seen for the third point the native seems to have a large> > > forehead.> > >> > > I would ask members to share their experience with baldness cases.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Souvik> > >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 dear MS bohra ji sorry i made a mistake on first chart Person A(Person is suffering hair loss) :-DOB :13-14/11/1980TOB :1:35 amPOB : Jaipur(Rajasthan) I am getting lagna as leo and Lord and karaka is same and lagna is in papakartari . lagna Lord also in PKY if we see bhava chart . the 2nd combo described by souvik ji the rasi drishti also applies here but sun is lord of lagna also . waiting for commnts frm more learned membrs regrds sunilnair , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare ramakrishna> > dear MS Bohra ji> > > > Person A(Person is suffering hair loss) :-> DOB :13-14/11/1980> TOB :1:35 am> POB : Jaipur(Rajasthan)> > ans-The chart posted earlier by sri Tim jorge has good similarity with> this chart and many of the points discussed is applcable here ,ref> messge no 16441 on my reply on it .> > Person B (Lost all most all hair,just boundery wall):-> DOB :7-2-1962> TOB : 23:49> POB : Jodhpur(Rajasthan)> > ans-Almost all planets afflicted one way or other and in saptagraha yoga> ( such yoga happens when there is turmoil in nation and lot of blood> shed ),so here lagna Lord and moon sign lord and karaka for lagna and> lagnas ( both ) afflicted along with its lords .> > > > > Person C ( He have very rich hair on his head,Leo Lagana with Sun in> Aries):-> DOB : 20-5-1961> TOB : 14:00> POB : Jodhpur (rajasthan)> > Ans -Moon sign is stronger and in agnimaruta yoga> > In many cases the karaka for hair sat also has an addition say .In most> cases navamsa has not much influence i am seeing in quick glance ,except> v few cases ( generaly observed not posted here ) we can say sure in> most of cases the hair fall or atleast problems in head area .Ladies we> hav to see with more care as feminine hormones has diffrnt say may b .if> some ladies chart some one can post we can see more defenite way .( but> still i dont think they will hav v v strong thick hair in head like our> poetical imagination )> > Further commnts and obseravations r expected frm learned membrs .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > , "msbohra62"> msbohra62@ wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> >> > You are looking for some chart on this thread,please find here as> below :-> >> > Person A(Person is suffering hair loss) :-> > DOB :13-14/11/1980> > TOB :1:35 am> > POB : Jaipur(Rajasthan)> >> > Person B (Lost all most all hair,just boundery wall):-> > DOB :7-2-1962> > TOB : 23:49> > POB : Jodhpur(Rajasthan)> >> >> > Person C ( He have very rich hair on his head,Leo Lagana with Sun in> > Aries):-> > DOB : 20-5-1961> > TOB : 14:00> > POB : Jodhpur (rajasthan)> >> > I hope these are helpful to further discussion.> >> > Thanks,> >> > M.S.Bohra> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, I also have your horoscope saved in my computer. But i found that time is different. It is 10.41 am and now you have provided 10.15 am. Is their any ambiguity in birth timing. ? Thanks Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Dear Goelji, I have never given my birth time as 10.41 on any Group. My recorded birthtime is 10.14am and rectified is 10.15.20 am. regards, Bhaskar. , Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > I also have your horoscope saved in my computer. But i found that time > is different. It is 10.41 am and now you have provided 10.15 am.> > Is their any ambiguity in birth timing. ?> > Thanks> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Pandit Arjun Ji , Please check this horoscope if you have time please :- 21/08/1964 , 01:57 AM , Bhatinda ( Punjab ) With Regards Jawahar--- On Wed, 17/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Re: Head-Hair Issues Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 1:16 PM dear friendsthe observations in this thread are true in most, if not all, cases.many charts of my customers with sun in lagna got baldness to males and loss of hair or thin hair to females.by the way, i have sun in leo in lagna and have a wide forehead with semi bald head already. though unrelated with hair, i always felt heat in my head and never felt cold even in the icy himalayas where i stayed for some time and took baths in icy glacier melten streams. in normal city dwelling also, i take only cold water baths even in winters. though not astro principle corroborated, not feeling cold in winters can be attributed to sun placement in my case.hence members can add one more testimonial from me that sun in lagna causes baldhead.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Souvik ji,> > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates intelligence with> baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well-known> dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the results.> > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak for hair.> I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly described as> 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and Venus.> > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your observation> or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from the> scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis?> > Regards> Neelam> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Respected Sunil-ji, Thanks you sharing your views. Whereas most members has commented on case 1, I donot see much test cases on case 2 & 3. For case 3, I have my chart- my D-9 lagna is in almost exact conjunction with Sun and yes I have a moderately broad forehead. However, I donot have a hair-loss issue at all. This could be because I have an almost exact conjunction of Ketu in my Lagna in Rasi. Moreover, I have Capricorn rising in D-9 aspected by Saturn, that could be another reason why there is no hair-loss. However, I do have a grey hair issue and it is heriditary. Regards, Souvik , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear souvik ji > > > > i agree with ur obseravtions ,i dont know abt 2 nd and 3rd one ,but > sun in lagna can do it . > > (as sun in graha swaroopa as alpa kacha -less hair in horas ) > > also i think malefics in lagna with other malefics drishti ( parasari ) > or agnimarutha yogas happening in lagna also can contribute it > > even malefic lagna alord in lagna can also may contribute it > > > > rest we can discuss if some one can post some charts > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > , " Souvik Dutta " > <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > I have observed that people with the following astrological > > combinations seems to have head-hair issues. > > > > 1) Sun in Lagna in Rasi chart within +/- 2 degree of Lagna > > 2) Sun in Aries/Leo aspecting Lagna in Rasi chart by Rasi drishti > > 3) Sun in Navamsa Lagna within +/- 2 degree of Navamsa Lagna > > > > I have seen for the third point the native seems to have a large > > forehead. > > > > I would ask members to share their experience with baldness cases. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Dear Pandit-ji, Any cases that you have come across with combinations mentioned in points 2 & 3? Please do share if you have seen such cases. Thanks Souvik , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > the observations in this thread are true in most, if not all, cases. > > many charts of my customers with sun in lagna got baldness to males > and loss of hair or thin hair to females. > > by the way, i have sun in leo in lagna and have a wide forehead with > semi bald head already. though unrelated with hair, i always felt > heat in my head and never felt cold even in the icy himalayas where i > stayed for some time and took baths in icy glacier melten streams. > in normal city dwelling also, i take only cold water baths even in > winters. though not astro principle corroborated, not feeling cold > in winters can be attributed to sun placement in my case. > > hence members can add one more testimonial from me that sun in lagna > causes baldhead. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > > , " neelam gupta " > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > Dear Souvik ji, > > > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates > intelligence with > > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- > known > > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the > results. > > > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak > for hair. > > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly > described as > > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and > Venus. > > > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your > observation > > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from > the > > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Dear Neelam-ji, You raised two very important points. 1) Is intelligence linked to hair-loss? Do thinkers have less hair or grey hair? Is their any connection with the decoloartion of hair and human evolution? This requires more thorogh discussion. 2) Sun in Leo/Aries is in Mooltrikona/Exaltation. Rasi drishti is permanent aspect and as good as being there in the house. This is not from any dictum but personal observation speculation open to this forum for criticism and discusion. Surely, there is no escape for any Rasi and dual rasis should not be removed from the list. However, it is observed that the loss of head-hair is directly related to the strength of Sun " as seen " or " felt " in Lagna. If you have such cases, please do share the same. Regards, Souvik , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Souvik ji, > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates intelligence with > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- known > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the results. > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak for hair. > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly described as > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and Venus. > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your observation > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from the > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Namaste, Sorry for the interruptions. In the natives horoscope , his lagna lord Mercury become malefic due to its association with Surya in the 3rd house. Loss of hair on the head / Alopecia / Baldness is also caused If the dispositor of a lagna ( say Mercury)) become malefic due to its association with a malefic. Astrologer India <astroastronomy wrote: Pandit Arjun Ji , Please check this horoscope if you have time please :- 21/08/1964 , 01:57 AM , Bhatinda ( Punjab ) With Regards Jawahar --- On Wed, 17/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Re: Head-Hair Issues Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 1:16 PM dear friends the observations in this thread are true in most, if not all, cases. many charts of my customers with sun in lagna got baldness to males and loss of hair or thin hair to females. by the way, i have sun in leo in lagna and have a wide forehead with semi bald head already. though unrelated with hair, i always felt heat in my head and never felt cold even in the icy himalayas where i stayed for some time and took baths in icy glacier melten streams. in normal city dwelling also, i take only cold water baths even in winters. though not astro principle corroborated, not feeling cold in winters can be attributed to sun placement in my case. hence members can add one more testimonial from me that sun in lagna causes baldhead. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun ancient_indian_ astrology, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Souvik ji, > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates intelligence with > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- known > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the results. > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak for hair. > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly described as > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and Venus. > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your observation > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from the > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 dear friend this horoscope does not have sun in lagna and has mars and rahu in lagna. in line with the thread, i do not find the baldness principle applying to this chart. however, you may find a scar or a cut or a surgery happening in the head. if you are asking for a reading of the chart, this group is not meant for that and here we only discuss subject and issues. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , Astrologer India <astroastronomy wrote: > > Pandit Arjun Ji , > Â > Please check this horoscope if you have time please :- > 21/08/1964 , 01:57 AM , Bhatinda ( Punjab ) > Â > With Regards > Jawahar > > --- On Wed, 17/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > Re: Head-Hair Issues > > Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 1:16 PM dear friends > > the observations in this thread are true in most, if not all, cases. > > many charts of my customers with sun in lagna got baldness to males > and loss of hair or thin hair to females. > > by the way, i have sun in leo in lagna and have a wide forehead with > semi bald head already. though unrelated with hair, i always felt > heat in my head and never felt cold even in the icy himalayas where i > stayed for some time and took baths in icy glacier melten streams. > in normal city dwelling also, i take only cold water baths even in > winters. though not astro principle corroborated, not feeling cold > in winters can be attributed to sun placement in my case. > > hence members can add one more testimonial from me that sun in lagna > causes baldhead. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " neelam gupta " > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Souvik ji, > > > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates > intelligence with > > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- > known > > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the > results. > > > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak > for hair. > > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly > described as > > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and > Venus. > > > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your > observation > > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from > the > > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Mr. Souvik ji, The points you raised on intellectual thinking - Hair Loss - Bald heads...etc. are the typical western mindset for every behavior or thought is linked to testertone / chemicals produced in body...etc.. i.e. body influences mind..... when we easterners think mind influences body, mind is separate from body !!??!! Sounds confusing.....Yes.... This reminds of another dated Indian thinking..... Most of the genius & successful businessmen the world seen are school or college drop-outs or scored less in their academics. This raises questions on with or without education - i.e. qualification criteria for doing a thing. I am inclined to think on Western lines...on some matters... In Indian system, you cannot change your education stream mid-way, while you can do that any time in your life time in West. NO institute or admission is allowed once you are past certain age limit - whereas in West - till your last breath - you can still join a course of your choice. Lately, India is excelling itself in distortion mythology - in a serial Ramayana - by Mr. B.R. Chopra { somebody using his name to gain popularity}, Sun is shown as a Norwegian hippy.....when description of Sun in Puranas - is a large forehead & less hair. Why restrict it to Sun. Hairloss & Bald head - is applicable when there are malefics in kendra....connecting to Lagna or Lagna Lord and the dasha of that malefics should be there...... Another data from my side { Sun in Lagna}. Male, 25-June-1980, 06:10 hrs, New Delhi, India. Gemini Lagna with Sun. He has been bald in his school days.....currently running after every GROW HAIR advts. ready to spend few lacs.....for it.... Male, 27-April-1978, 09:55hrs, Aligarh, India { 78E17, 28N02}, Gemini Lagna with Jupiter. Has big forehead -on the demarcating line of control between bald & normal {50% say he is 50% bald, 25% say he has big forehead, other 25% says he had hairloss - making him look as if having large forehead/bald look}. His wife is unperturbed or charmed by his hair style - reason - he has technically no hair till mid skull - i.e. till Tropic of Cancer - the theoretical line connecting the two EARS. The hair which have roots on this.... but moves towards his forehead - hiding the bald...unless some one checks it like a dermatologist. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Jaya ji,…isn't baldness hereditary? It is also scientifically proven that a specific gene is responsible for baldness. Can there be any connection between the planetary positions and the genes? Yes, baldness is hereditary and so are many other traits which we try to see through the planetary combinations. Most of the physical traits are hereditary with environmental modifications, but all are surely genetic. Both the horoscope and the genetic constitution can reveal the physical, mental and behavioural traits of an individual, but unfortunately both studies are fragmented and rudimentary which give us fleeting glance but not the complete picture. A homozygous truncating mutations in P2RY5, a gene which encodes an orphan G protein-coupled receptor has been identified as cause of baldness or hairloss. Can the effect of Sun induce this mutation in this paticular gene? Is the observation merely a coincidence? If sun induced a mutation leading to baldness, then this will be carried over to next generations (mutations get embedded in the genes and are hereditary), then as a corollary the coming generations of such a native would also have baldness and sun's position should show it again. So what comes first we do not know. Here also we're talking about natal positions at birth whereas the mutation if it happens has to be carried over at the time of fertilisation. I guess we need to take refuge in the theory of karma that depending upon the karma a soul chooses to be born at a particular time and selects its womb with inter-related destinies. With this concept, both genetics and planets get their significance. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Stress is also related to hair loss. Please look into that angle too. Chiranjiv--- On Fri, 19/12/08, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan Re: Head-Hair Issues Date: Friday, 19 December, 2008, 12:57 AM Dear Neelam-ji,You raised two very important points.1) Is intelligence linked to hair-loss? Do thinkers have less hair or grey hair? Is their any connection with the decoloartion of hair and human evolution?This requires more thorogh discussion.2) Sun in Leo/Aries is in Mooltrikona/ Exaltation. Rasi drishti is permanent aspect and as good as being there in the house. This is not from any dictum but personal observation speculation open to this forum for criticism and discusion. Surely, there is no escape for any Rasi and dual rasis should not be removed from the list. However, it is observed that the loss of head-hair is directly related to the strength of Sun "as seen" or "felt" in Lagna. If you have such cases, please do share the same.Regards,Souvikancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Souvik ji,> > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates intelligence with> baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well-known> dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the results.> > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak for hair.> I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly described as> 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and Venus.> > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your observation> or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from the> scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis?> > Regards> Neelam> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Members, We are discussing 'Head Hair Issues' in thread, partially every one is right.But what science say the real reason of Hair loss or baldness should be consider and we must search the relation of this with Astrological planetary position in a chart. As per science the reasons are as :- //A number of things can cause excessive hair loss. For example, about 3 or 4 months after an illness or a major surgery, you may suddenly lose a large amount of hair. This hair loss is related to the stress of the illness and is temporary. Hormonal problems may cause hair loss. If your thyroid gland is overactive or underactive, your hair may fall out. This hair loss usually can be helped by treatment thyroid disease. Hair loss may occur if male or female hormones, known as androgens and estrogens, are out of balance. Correcting the hormone imbalance may stop your hair loss. Many women notice hair loss about 3 months after they've had a baby. This loss is also related to hormones. During pregnancy, high levels of certain hormones cause the body to keep hair that would normally fall out. When the hormones return to pre-pregnancy levels, that hair falls out and the normal cycle of growth and loss starts again. Some medicines can cause hair loss. This type of hair loss improves when you stop taking the medicine. Medicines that can cause hair loss include blood thinners (also called anticoagulants), medicines used for gout, medicines used in chemotherapy to treat cancer, vitamin A (if too much is taken), birth control pills and antidepressants. Certain infections can cause hair loss. Fungal infections of the scalp can cause hair loss in children. The infection is easily treated with antifungal medicines. Finally, hair loss may occur as part of an underlying disease, such as lupus or diabetes. Since hair loss may be an early sign of a disease, it is important to find the cause so that it can be treated.// Their is no relation with intelligence for hair loss or baldness ,in other word you will say women are not intelligent? Which is not fact we know. The main culprit is Hormonal unbalance in the body for that we have to judge it in a chart.The main hormone is male hormone " androgens " ,if it is hyperactive (Or excessive) in the body it will cause hair loss or baldness.Genetic reason are also play the role,may be to hyperactivity of this male hormone in next generation. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > Stress is also related to hair loss. Please look into that angle too. > Â > Chiranjiv > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan > Re: Head-Hair Issues > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 12:57 AM Dear Neelam-ji, > > You raised two very important points. > 1) Is intelligence linked to hair-loss? Do thinkers have less hair or > grey hair? Is their any connection with the decoloartion of hair and > human evolution? > This requires more thorogh discussion. > 2) Sun in Leo/Aries is in Mooltrikona/ Exaltation. Rasi drishti is > permanent aspect and as good as being there in the house. This is not > from any dictum but personal observation speculation open to this > forum for criticism and discusion. Surely, there is no escape for any > Rasi and dual rasis should not be removed from the list. However, it > is observed that the loss of head-hair is directly related to the > strength of Sun " as seen " or " felt " in Lagna. If you have such cases, > please do share the same. > > Regards, > > Souvik > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " neelam gupta " > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Souvik ji, > > > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates > intelligence with > > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- > known > > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the > results. > > > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak > for hair. > > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly > described as > > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and > Venus. > > > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your > observation > > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from > the > > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear all, Somehow I feel left out. because I do not understand how the study of baldness with regards to astrological factors, helps one in day to day Life. Is this study important, and how do we apply this in regular Life, and on whom ? Will people ask us whether they are going to get bald, or are we supposed to tell them, that you are going to get bald, or are we going to talk about the astrologicval pointers of their baldness, once they have become bald ? Please help me, I am getting utterly confused. Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 hare rama krishna respected bhaskar ji sure ,i will not say ur arguemnts are invalid as every one is after what can happen to him in future than wat is already happened and v v less numbr of person is worreid abt his baldness unless he is a model or upcoming film star .Even among them once they r established in field they r least bothered abt Hair and even age Like sri rajni kant of south india who has a solid fan fair and irrespectiv of his present looks and age many of them r happy to see him in screen no matter what is it . But all this dictums we discussed here is proving the validity of astro and u shud rmbr that a grp of ppl called skeptics who in the clout of humanitarians and where as having a diffrnt agenda is behind them is barging in every grp and even every personal id and asking like this unlimitd numbr of questions which we discard in our studies naturaly as no one is after it . . they ask u to prov a chart is male or female afraikan or american etc etc ,all r invalid if we consider astro as predictiv science as no one will approach u to know wheter he is somalian or egyptian or he is male or female .so all this questions r simply designed to make the astrologers some how answerless and win their points where as many of this questions has already answered in various texts and many guru's r teaching it to their students too except nationality part as it already said desa ,kala patra ,paristithy principle is sepearate and unless we hav a yogic sidhi we cannot answer it i hav seen some old masters while matchting the chart of male with some female chart they ask the parents of girl abt all this specialities ( even rough idea abt profession ,education .his family his father etc etc ) in chart b4 they venture into final analaysis and declaration of results of this purticular match ( as some cases some ppl will provide wrong charts hiding the reality and some how they wanted to get married to purticualr girl in purticular family ) so all this questions those gurus ask giv them is to provide clarity abt the chart and then only they decide wheter to go ahed with matchting . Now a days no one is paying for u for all this kind of analysis and every one is least bothered also .And ppl r ready to spend millions of ruppes on other things and projects .where as 100 million budgetted House ,the person will pay same few 100s to astrologers for giving best muhurtha ,same is true with marriage they spent crores on party and even booze and other unneccessary decorations ( even ready to pay for super stars to attent the marriage ) and all that but pundits and astrologers will b paid less than the coolies of decoration company . So one way u r right bhaskar ji regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > > Dear all,> > Somehow I feel left out. because I do not understand how the study of> baldness with regards to astrological factors, helps one in day to day> Life. Is this study important, and how do we apply this in regular> Life, and on whom ? Will people ask us whether they are going to get> bald, or are we supposed to tell them, that you are going to get bald,> or are we going to talk about the astrologicval pointers of their> baldness, once they have become bald ?> > Please help me, I am getting utterly confused.> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, Sunil ji, Renu ji and others: " (intelligent head loses hair!!) " This can be due to stress. I assume the main discussion is on the natural baldness (heridity or stress or intelligence) and not the aftermath of chemotherapy or radiation or other hormonal imbalance. I am a bit preoccupied with work, please see wehther the following paper in interesting which I haven't had time to read. It will be interesting if we can relate these. If anyone interested I can download the file otherwise the abstract and the title is pasted. Thank you for posting my little important message even after it got rejected accidently. Jaya " Hair Loss Among Elderly Men: Etiology and Impact on Perceived Age Helle Rexbye1, Inge Petersen1, Maria Iachina1, Jakob Mortensen1, Matt McGue2, James W. Vaupel3 and Kaare Christensen1, Background. Androgenetic alopecia is the most common type of hair loss in men, but little is known about the etiology of androgenetic alopecia in elderly men and its impact on perceived age. Here we used a population-based twin study of men aged 70+ to assess the magnitude of the genetic component affecting hair loss and to examine the association between baldness and perceived age. Methods. In the fourth wave of The Longitudinal Study of Aging Danish Twins we obtained digital photos of the face and photos of the vertex area of 739 elderly male twins, including 148 intact twin pairs. The degree of baldness and perceived age were assessed in each twin by five and nine nurses, respectively. The heritability of balding was estimated using structural-equation analysis, and it was tested whether baldness was associated with estimations of age. Results. The intrapair correlation of degree of balding was consistently higher for monozygotic than for dizygotic twin pairs regardless of the baldness categorization used, and structural- equation analysis revealed a heritability of 79% (95% confidence interval, 0.40–0.85) for the mean baldness index. The remaining variation could be attributed to nonshared environmental effects. There was only a very weak and statistically nonsignificant association between baldness and overestimation of age. Conclusions. The majority of the variation in baldness in elderly men can be explained by genetic factors, and hair quantity has little impact on perceived age in elderly men. , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > Stress is also related to hair loss. Please look into that angle too. > Â > Chiranjiv > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan > Re: Head-Hair Issues > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 12:57 AM Dear Neelam-ji, > > You raised two very important points. > 1) Is intelligence linked to hair-loss? Do thinkers have less hair or > grey hair? Is their any connection with the decoloartion of hair and > human evolution? > This requires more thorogh discussion. > 2) Sun in Leo/Aries is in Mooltrikona/ Exaltation. Rasi drishti is > permanent aspect and as good as being there in the house. This is not > from any dictum but personal observation speculation open to this > forum for criticism and discusion. Surely, there is no escape for any > Rasi and dual rasis should not be removed from the list. However, it > is observed that the loss of head-hair is directly related to the > strength of Sun " as seen " or " felt " in Lagna. If you have such cases, > please do share the same. > > Regards, > > Souvik > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " neelam gupta " > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Souvik ji, > > > > Sun in lagna or associated with lagna factors indicates > intelligence with > > baldness/scanty hair. (intelligent head loses hair!!). It is a well- > known > > dictum. In this context, obviously, pt.1 and 3 will reinforce the > results. > > > > I think Saturn is also important in this regard as it is the karak > for hair. > > I have sun in lagna I feel the head-hair issue can be modestly > described as > > 'owner's pride, neighbour's envy'. But here Sun is with Saturn and > Venus. > > > > Regarding the second point, I have not heard about. Is it your > observation > > or a classical tenet? Why the dual rashi's have been left out from > the > > scheme? No head-hair issues with these rashis? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji, Thank You for your response. Humour apart, there are too many important matters in astrology with reference to the present times, which needs our attentions, where we can spend our energies and try to gain some degree of acumen four our own benefit and also for the benefit of the inquirer. Astro factors for baldness, as far as I can see will help one when he goes bald untimely, or apparently without any ill health, disease or repercussions of some treatment. At such times these can help us to guide the native or his family members, as to the cause and whether the baldness phase would be temporary or permanent. But how many such cases we will encounter in our Life time ? For me I have not met a single such case. The film actor Govinda has just had a implant of hair on his head to cover the baldness, and now looks as good as new. The baldness will be forgotten soon, or not even remembered at all. We can check astro factors to find out when all the teeth of a person will fall - at hat age he will get total dentures. This is the same like hair fall. But again tooth transplants fixed permanently, are taking place, so who will care to ask a astrologer about this ? Which is why I wrote what I wrote. Capitalization of astrologers - is what I understood from your mail. I have become too strict these days and if at all I allow anyone to take advantage of me knowingly, it will be for once but not again. We have to draw a line somewhere and learn demanding compensations for the time spent and study done. And the problem is they don't even come back to say thank You. Just yesterday one member from these forums wrote to me asking when his 20 year old daughter will get married. I wrote him after November 2010. I also suggested him remedies - ( Mantras, and not gems ) from my own side voluntarily in another mail which I thought important to tell him, being a responsible astrologer , though he did not ask me about same. He shot back his mail asking me " What about the likely time of marriage ?" with no address to me, no signature, and not a single word of thanks. Such shameless people we have to rub shoulders with , daily on the Groups. And this fellow is supposed to be a astrologer and a member who sends religious mails to all groups. He keeps a prefix of Dr. to his name. Tell me why should I spend some time in trying to fix exact date for his daughters marriage though at times it takes only few minutes to fix this date, but I do not even want to try with the kind of tone in his mail, as if demanding is is birthright, and as if I a supposed to be at his disposal 24 x 7. I finished my exchange with this thankless and ungrateful person, him with the following reply - " That would take me 2 hours time to check, and cannot do it unless I am paid professionally for same. I receive at least 40 such requests everyday ". regards, Bhaskar. , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > hare rama krishna> > respected bhaskar ji> > > > sure ,i will not say ur arguemnts are invalid as every one is after> what can happen to him in future than wat is already happened and v v> less numbr of person is worreid abt his baldness unless he is a model or> upcoming film star .Even among them once they r established in field> they r least bothered abt Hair and even age Like sri rajni kant of south> india who has a solid fan fair and irrespectiv of his present looks and> age many of them r happy to see him in screen no matter what is it .> > But all this dictums we discussed here is proving the validity of astro> and u shud rmbr that a grp of ppl called skeptics who in the clout of> humanitarians and where as having a diffrnt agenda is behind them is> barging in every grp and even every personal id and asking like this> unlimitd numbr of questions which we discard in our studies naturaly as> no one is after it . .> > they ask u to prov a chart is male or female> > > > afraikan or american> > > > etc etc ,all r invalid if we consider astro as predictiv science as no> one will approach u to know wheter he is somalian or egyptian or he is> male or female .so all this questions r simply designed to make the> astrologers some how answerless and win their points> > > > where as many of this questions has already answered in various texts> and many guru's r teaching it to their students too except nationality> part as it already said desa ,kala patra ,paristithy principle is> sepearate and unless we hav a yogic sidhi we cannot answer it> > i hav seen some old masters while matchting the chart of male with some> female chart they ask the parents of girl abt all this specialities (> even rough idea abt profession ,education .his family his father etc etc> ) in chart b4 they venture into final analaysis and declaration of> results of this purticular match ( as some cases some ppl will provide> wrong charts hiding the reality and some how they wanted to get married> to purticualr girl in purticular family ) so all this questions those> gurus ask giv them is to provide clarity abt the chart and then only> they decide wheter to go ahed with matchting .> > Now a days no one is paying for u for all this kind of analysis and> every one is least bothered also .And ppl r ready to spend millions of> ruppes on other things and projects .where as 100 million budgetted> House ,the person will pay same few 100s to astrologers for giving best> muhurtha ,same is true with marriage they spent crores on party and even> booze and other unneccessary decorations ( even ready to pay for super> stars to attent the marriage ) and all that but pundits and astrologers> will b paid less than the coolies of decoration company .> > > > So one way u r right bhaskar ji> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear all,> >> > Somehow I feel left out. because I do not understand how the study of> > baldness with regards to astrological factors, helps one in day to day> > Life. Is this study important, and how do we apply this in regular> > Life, and on whom ? Will people ask us whether they are going to get> > bald, or are we supposed to tell them, that you are going to get bald,> > or are we going to talk about the astrologicval pointers of their> > baldness, once they have become bald ?> >> > Please help me, I am getting utterly confused.> >> > Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Sreeram-ji and members, Sreeram-ji - Thank you for your cases and ofcourse your geniuine sense of humour. You mentioned that the native (case 1) is really desparate for artificial hair. Another member mentioned that artificial hair- transplant and for that matter medical advancement today totally nullifies the importance of such study. There is a catch here. Actually, everyone who has such issues doesn't go for artificial means. 1) He/she has to feel the need to do so. The sense of importance of hair has to be present. This sense comes from Venus- it is Venus that feels that Sun is inadequate, Sun however doesn't mind the shiny bald forehead, infact He is proud of it. 2) He/she has to be able to afford it. Many people want to go for artifical cosmetic treatments but affordability is a completely different question. One's urge to spend on oneself comes form Mercury- according to me. Venus and Mercury attributes drive the Rajasick world (which I am afraid is the vast majority) and thus defines the very word " beauty " and goes after Ketu (the doctor, the astrologer etc.) to fix things for them. Regards, Souvik , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Mr. Souvik ji, > > The points you raised on intellectual thinking - Hair Loss - Bald > heads...etc. are the typical western mindset for every behavior or > thought is linked to testertone / chemicals produced in body...etc.. > i.e. body influences mind..... when we easterners think mind influences > body, mind is separate from body !!??!! Sounds confusing.....Yes.... > > This reminds of another dated Indian thinking..... Most of the genius & > successful businessmen the world seen are school or college drop- outs or > scored less in their academics. This raises questions on with or > without education - i.e. qualification criteria for doing a thing. > > I am inclined to think on Western lines...on some matters... In Indian > system, you cannot change your education stream mid-way, while you can > do that any time in your life time in West. NO institute or admission > is allowed once you are past certain age limit - whereas in West - till > your last breath - you can still join a course of your choice. > > Lately, India is excelling itself in distortion mythology - in a serial > Ramayana - by Mr. B.R. Chopra { somebody using his name to gain > popularity}, Sun is shown as a Norwegian hippy.....when description of > Sun in Puranas - is a large forehead & less hair. > > Why restrict it to Sun. Hairloss & Bald head - is applicable when > there are malefics in kendra....connecting to Lagna or Lagna Lord and > the dasha of that malefics should be there...... > > Another data from my side { Sun in Lagna}. > > Male, 25-June-1980, 06:10 hrs, New Delhi, India. Gemini Lagna with > Sun. He has been bald in his school days.....currently running after > every GROW HAIR advts. ready to spend few lacs.....for it.... > > Male, 27-April-1978, 09:55hrs, Aligarh, India { 78E17, 28N02}, Gemini > Lagna with Jupiter. Has big forehead -on the demarcating line of > control between bald & normal {50% say he is 50% bald, 25% say he has > big forehead, other 25% says he had hairloss - making him look as if > having large forehead/bald look}. His wife is unperturbed or charmed by > his hair style - reason - he has technically no hair till mid skull - > i.e. till Tropic of Cancer - the theoretical line connecting the two > EARS. The hair which have roots on this.... but moves towards his > forehead - hiding the bald...unless some one checks it like a > dermatologist. > > > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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