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Dear members,

 

I recently came across a hororscope which might be of interest to

members.... focus on 7H.

 

Male, 3-Dec-1939, 03:30 hrs, Nellore, Andhra Pradesh, India 79E58,

14 N 26 Libra Lagna with Rahu.

 

This is posted for those interested in specific combinations of planets.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Male, 3-Dec-1939, 03:30 hrs, Nellore, Andhra Pradesh, India 79E58,

14 N 26 Libra Lagna with Rahu

dear sreeram srinivasji,

My system is back to normal mode after heavy rains experienced by us in

chennai, and flooding caused lot of disturbance. Water had entered my house

for the first time, except my  vaccum cleaner, most of the electronic items

could be salvaged.  for the last 2 weeks i was occupied in bringing back

my house to normal state.

the above mentioned native's chart has 4th and 5thlord  saturn in 7th and is

debilitated.

the star lords of ketu and saturn are ketu. so my assessement is the native

would

have remained a bachelor. there are no beneficial aspects to 7th house.

looking forward to ur response,

regards,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

 

sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

Deb. Saturn_Vargottam

 

Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 6:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear members,

 

I recently came across a hororscope which might be of interest to

members.... focus on 7H.

 

Male, 3-Dec-1939, 03:30 hrs, Nellore, Andhra Pradesh, India 79E58,

14 N 26 Libra Lagna with Rahu.

 

This is posted for those interested in specific combinations of planets.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Mr. Gopu ji,

I once washed my TV with powerful water spray - to clean it from dust and spider webs, dried it in hot summer Sun for 3 days, and it worked perfectly alright for 15 yrs.

//so my assessement is the native would have remained a bachelor. there are no beneficial aspects to 7th house//

Feedback : The native is married with 3 male children, with children settled in USA.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

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Dear all,

 

Since both Ketu and saturn are in ketus nakshatra, the marriage should have happened after delay and troubles. Since, ketu-moon are in trine to Saturn, it would cause lot of difficulties in the career and the native himself would be less inclined towards work and wordly affairs. Although venus may act as positive to this factor.

 

Basically, to me it appears native has sufferred a lot of difficulties in the business or its career work mainly due to his own nature of not working.

 

Thanx & Regards

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Dear Mr. Sumit Bajaj2000 ji,

 

He enjoyed best reputation both at work & outside - known for his

honesty & integrity, was a topper of Engg. Services exam, reached top

post of PSU at young age, technically very competent, later went on to

work as a technical advisor to Mr. Laxmi Narayan Mittal. Though he had

his share of office enemies, but majority was with him, so had a smooth

sailing....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear Sreeram ji and group, Here's my take on

this.

I am taking my cue

from two points mentioned by Sreeram ji. One is to see 7H and another for

combination of planets.

Going by this, 7H

means something to do with marriage primarily and combination is the Saturn

Ketu conjunction.

Saturn is a

retrograde, debilitated malefic, hence behaves like an exalted planet here. It

is an exalted vargottam YK 4th and 5th lord in 7H. Creates

a rajyoga in 7H.

7L mars is well placed

in 5H in exchange with 5L Saturn in 7H. This exchange multiplies the rajyoga.

The rajyoga also ropes in 2H and 4H thereby ensuring family, sukh, happiness,

marriage and children to the native. Moon aspecting from 11H also gives

strength to 7L. This could also make him an engineer.

From 7L Mars, there

are benefics in 2H-7H and 11H, thereby forming a yoga that bestows marital

happiness with healthy and lucky children (Raman)

Venus is in 3H and not

afflicted having Jupiter in 4H from it. From moon 7H has mars,

the 9L and 9H has Saturn and ketu with Jupiter in 8H in pisces.

I can go on as there

are so many good points about the chart. The native appears to be a successful

person and enjoys good status.

There appears to one

problem with him though which is in his head (aries) like an OCD.If other reading is

correct, I can elaborate on that.RegardsNeelam

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Namaste Srinivasji,

 

You have mentioned that he has three children. Does he have sons or

daughters. Atleast his first born could be daughter. This chart is

interesting. There are afflictions to his 7th house and 5th house,

despite parivartana yoga. How is his relationship with his wife. In

general, is he prone to anger or is he adamant.

 

Regards,

 

Ram Singh

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Namaste Mr. Manasramcharit ji,

 

1) He has 3 sons. NO daughters. NO case of abortions.

 

2) His wife has been very supportive, relation is co-ordial with deep

mutual respect.

 

3) Difficult to comment on his adamant or anger for both are subjective.

To my knowledge for having known him for many years & family friends,

he is soft spoken and cool person.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Namaskar all

 

Sreeram ji thanks for such a good case for study

 

as a student - i was having a miss concept that sat vargottama give sever

suffering to the person ( grief )

but most of them do not consider the suffering as suffering if sat is

vargottama

 

Nandana

 

2008/12/12 sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

 

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> Namaste Mr. Manasramcharit ji,

>

> 1) He has 3 sons. NO daughters. NO case of abortions.

>

> 2) His wife has been very supportive, relation is co-ordial with deep

> mutual respect.

>

> 3) Difficult to comment on his adamant or anger for both are subjective.

> To my knowledge for having known him for many years & family friends,

> he is soft spoken and cool person.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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Dear Sreeram Srinivas,

Thanks for a beautiful and educative chart. The Saturn is debilitated and vargottam. But we forget to take notice of that Saturn is in kendra from the lagna and there is exchange in Mars and Saturn. The Saturn is in the axis of Rahu/Ketu. Mars is also vargottam. Saturn lose his venom when ever he has relation with Mars. 10th lord Moon is in 11th, 11th lord Sun in 2nd and 9th lord Mercury is in 2nd, 11th lord and 9th lord conjoined in 2nd. All these are raja yoga So the native is happy and have happy marriage life and children.--- On Fri, 12/12/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Re:Deb. Saturn_Vargottam Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 10:43 AM

 

 

Namaste Mr. Manasramcharit ji,1) He has 3 sons. NO daughters. NO case of abortions.2) His wife has been very supportive, relation is co-ordial with deepmutual respect.3) Difficult to comment on his adamant or anger for both are subjective.To my knowledge for having known him for many years & family friends, he is soft spoken and cool person.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas

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Respected Neelam,

 

Since 5h,7h,9h, has connection, in d-1, d-9. I think it also indicate

'marriage of choice'.

 

Just thinking over your as usual nice explanation.

 

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur

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Dear Goel ji,You are right. But also see from moon. Venus in 5H does give an inclination to have affairs, but the 5L is in 8H and has no connection with 7H/L.Strong 9L mars in 7H in parivartan with 9L saturn, would rather give him an inclination to suppress his feelings and go by what PAPA says.

Also note that he is 1939 born when love marriages were more of rebellious nature than a norm. A piscean jupiter in 8H from moon cannot make a rebel.This is what I feel. Sreeramji can clarify the point for our learning.

RegardsNeelam2008/12/12 Vijay Goel <goyalvj

 

 

 

 

Respected Neelam,

 

Since 5h,7h,9h, has connection, in d-1, d-9. I think it also indicate

'marriage of choice'.

 

Just thinking over your as usual nice explanation.

 

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur

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Dear Sreeramji,

 

 

The chart is tricky indeed. Ram Singhji is also right with his

observations, the chart is considerably afflicted for 7H and 5H. Yet,

the person has happiness from marriage and children. I am posting

another example chart. This is from Raman's How to judge a

horoscope, vol 2 page 51, chart 22

 

Nov 11, 1939 at 10.10pm 12N9, 77E9, India

 

The difference between the charts is only in the position of moon and

lagna. Here the parivartana is between 8H and 10H. The native lost

his wife within two years of marriage.

 

Excerpts from Raman's comments

 

" The 7th house is afflicted because although the 7L aspects it, the

aspect is of a planet renderd malefic by debility and assocition with

a node. The 8th house is occupied by mars who though a yogakaraka is

not welcome here. he is particularly harmful in the 2nd, 4th, 7th,

8th and 12th houses from lagna or chandra lagna. The debilitation and

eclipse of the 7th lord saturn and mars i the 8th house resulted in

death of wife. The 9th house though occupied by 9th lord, is subject

to papakartari yoga. The 8th and 10th lords have exchanged signs so

that saturn who is the 7th lord also is afflicted by the parivartana "

 

 

Some of these afflictions also apply to the chart under

consideration. But this chart has something unique, it is not just

the vargottama saturn, the mars and saturn shubha-parivartana itself

is repeating in navamsa. This has produced the rajayoga. I wonder

what would have been the effect of this exchange, if it was not

repeating in D-9.

 

Thank you for the interesting chart.

 

Regards,

 

bhagavathi

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Dear Neelamji,

 

// Saturn is a retrograde, debilitated malefic, hence behaves like an

exalted planet here//

 

I know this is mentioned in uttara kalamrit, but I am not sure how

far this is applicable in reality. For example, the chart given by

Sreeramji, Saturn also gets neechabhanga whereas the parallel chart I

used for study from Raman's book, Saturn is again Vakri, Raman has

not considered saturn to be exalted by way of debilitated and vakri.

He has mentioned in that chart that saturn is not getting

neechabhanga so it is debilitated.

 

I have vakri, neecha saturn which also attains neechabhanga, saturn

periods and the entire rahu dasa have been very bad, I can feel that

saturn takes me to the noose but rescues me from hanging. So it is

the neechabhanga that is working.

 

Regards,

 

bhagavathi

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hare ramakrishna

dear sreeram ji

1) first of all superior navamsa chart ,all planets r in vargottam ,ownhouse ,exalted and there is an exchange too except rahu and ketu

2)the sani exchnge with mars and it is 5th and 7th exchange

3) marriage point of view only 7th House we can say afflicted but exchange also applies where as lord or karaka not afflicted .

4) karaka for marriage venus and imp houses frm it is almost trouble free

5) 5th House of children also the story repeats but karaka in PKY and Lord afflicted but the exchnge applicable

6)frm lagna to see health ,sufferings and Longitivity lagna Lord and 8th L unafflicted ,Lagna karaka unafflicted .

7)Major dasa of sat yet to come ,then as regrds to each event we dont know how transits and dasa helped as i 'm spending less time with this chart

How is his realtion with children ,we know they r all settled out of india ??

how was his mother if u can giv a feed back .

i think father is succesful and he born in good family .

i welcome ur opinion with any other feedback on nativ .

i think he has one bother and sister to eldest to him and he is not youngest too ( thinkin birth time is corect ) also tell me any of his siblings where as succesful as him .eventhough 5th and 7th House connection is there the nodal affliction dont allows a lov marriage in his case .Also running dasas were not supporting .

 

regrds sunil nair

Om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear members,> > I recently came across a hororscope which might be of interest to> members.... focus on 7H.> > Male, 3-Dec-1939, 03:30 hrs, Nellore, Andhra Pradesh, India 79E58, > 14 N 26 Libra Lagna with Rahu.> > This is posted for those interested in specific combinations of planets.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas>

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Namaste Mr. Sunil Nair ji,

 

Great analysis, core bullet points....

 

1) His relations with children are co-ordial to respectful. May be the

second son- relation is moderate, best with other two children.

 

2) He has sisters. NO brothers to my knowledge. Will check & confirm

 

3) His siblings - not so successful...average.

 

4) All marriages - arranged in his family or relatives.

 

with regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Hare ramakrishna

dear sreeram ji

Thanks for feedbacks ,any add on info on this chart in future will b highly appreciated as a part of study .

once again thank u for giving this great opportunity to study such charts .

hope u will posting more complex and challenging charts as we all can learn more .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

, "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Namaste Mr. Sunil Nair ji,> > Great analysis, core bullet points....> > 1) His relations with children are co-ordial to respectful. May be the> second son- relation is moderate, best with other two children.> > 2) He has sisters. NO brothers to my knowledge. Will check & confirm> > 3) His siblings - not so successful...average.> > 4) All marriages - arranged in his family or relatives.> > with regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas>

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