Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 , " prashanthnair999 " <prashanthnair999 wrote: dipika ji Namasakr , but what shud b taken ?? it was the first prediction on net by this duo on US elections and they never changed a sentance later ,when i serched all forums and even google it and pls think who got real nerv to predict a black becoming prez .they must b cracks ,if u see the history of US and those days MS.hillary was at her best too . regrds prashanth . , " dipika blr " blr.aspirant@ wrote: > > very well put, Avtar ji. > > A hundred guys all astrologers predicting the future, one of them eventually > turns out right. The public memory is selective remebers the lone success > forgetting the many failures. > > Reminds us of the " blind men and the elephant " fable. > > Thanks. > > *Buddha* is someone who finds freedom in good fortune and bad. > ~Bodhidharma. > > > The Blind Men and the Elephant by John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887) > > American poet John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887) based this poem, on a fable that > was told in India many years ago. It is a good warning about how our sensory > perceptions can lead to some serious misinterpretations; especially when the > investigations of the component parts of a whole, and their relations in > making up the whole, are inadequate and lack co-ordination. > > > > It was six men of Indostan > > To learning much inclined, > Who went to see the Elephant > > (Though all of them were blind), > That each by observation > > Might satisfy his mind > > The First approached the Elephant, > > And happening to fall > Against his broad and sturdy side, > > At once began to bawl: > " God bless me! but the Elephant > > Is very like a wall! " > [image: The first blind man of six blind men feels the side of the elephant > and interprets it as a wall.] > > The Second, feeling of the tusk, > > Cried, " Ho! what have we here > So very round and smooth and sharp? > > To me 'tis mighty clear > This wonder of an Elephant > > Is very like a spear! " > [image: The second blind man of the six blind men feels an elephant tusk and > interprets the elephant to be like a spear.] > > The Third approached the animal, > > And happening to take > The squirming trunk within his hands, > > Thus boldly up and spake: > " I see, " quoth he, " the Elephant > > Is very like a snake! " > [image: The third blind man of the six blind men touches the elephant's > trunk and interprets it to be a snake.] > > The Fourth reached out an eager hand, > > And felt about the knee. > " What most this wondrous beast is like > > Is mighty plain, " quoth he; > " 'Tis clear enough the Elephant > > Is very like a tree! " > [image: The fourth blind man of the six blind men touches the elephant's leg > and mentally visualizes it to be a tree.] > > The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear, > > Said: " E'en the blindest man > Can tell what this resembles most; > > Deny the fact who can > This marvel of an Elephant > > Is very like a fan! " > [image: The fifth blind man of the six blind men touches the elephant's ear > and imagines it to be a fan.] > > The Sixth no sooner had begun > > About the beast to grope, > Than, seizing on the swinging tail > > That fell within his scope, > " I see, " quoth he, " the Elephant > > Is very like a rope! " > [image: The sixth blind man of the six blind men touches the elephant's tail > and interprets it to be a rope.] > > And so these men of Indostan > > Disputed loud and long, > Each in his own opinion > > Exceeding stiff and strong, > Though each was partly in the right, > > And all were in the wrong! > > *Moral:* > > *So oft in theologic wars, * > > *The disputants, I ween,* > * Rail on in utter ignorance * > > *Of what each other mean,* > * And prate about an Elephant * > > *Not one of them has actually seen!* > courtesy: http://www.wordinfo.info/Blind-Men-and-Elephant-crop.html > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Avtar Krishen Kaul jyotirved: > > > Dear Shri Prashanth Nairji, > > Namaskar! > > <see this Links > > /message/15464 > > /message/15464> > > /message/7561? > > thre\... " > > I am not a member of that forum though Shri Sreenadh invited me a > > couple of times. My experience in that forum has been that the > > members of that forum jump at the throat of anyone who does not toe > > their line! > > > > Regarding Obama being judged as the winning candidate by some > > Nirayana-walas, I remember that Shri Narasimha P V R Rao, the owner > > of " Vedic-astrology " and the organizer of SJH > > astrological school and also the " creator " of the SJH software > > had " declared " unquivocally that McCain would win! He also uses > > Lahiri Ayanamsha! He had also done a thorough analysis of both the > > charts i.e. of Obama and McCain! > > > > Then it can be clear to anybody that if Shri Obama is running Maha- > > dasha-antar-dasha of planets A and B respectively on November 4/5, > > 2008 as per Lahiri Ayanamsha, he will be running Mahadasha of planets > > C & D on the same date as per Chandra Hari Ayanamsha and planets G & > > H as per Yuktweshar Ayanamsha and planets I & J as per Grahalaghava > > Ayanamsha---the halmark of Hindu astrology till a few decades back! > > Same will be the case with all the Jaimini Karakas like Atma, Dara > > etc. etc., besides Dashamsha, Navamsha etc. etc., hoping, against > > hope, that the position of planets in the Rashichakra remains the > > same irrespective of different ayanamshas! > > And as any tyro in jyotisha must know, if Ayanamsha A is correct all > > the other Ayanamshas are wrong! But what that Ayanamsha A is, can be > > anybody's guess, since Ayanamsha is actualy a myth created by > > jyotishis and for jyotishis, the most deleterious effect of which is > > that we are celebrating all our festivals and muhurtas on wrong days-- > > -thanks to nirayana and nirayanawalas! > > As such, if some prediction by some jyotishis has proved correct, it > > is just a matter of chance, rather than establishing any credentials > > of " Vedic astrology " . > > > > With regards, > > A K Kaul > > > > PS > > Pl. do not construe that I am advoating a so called sayana > > Rashichakra---since there are no Rashis in the Vedas and as such, to > > call them Sayana or nirayana etc. is meaningless! > > AKK > > > > --- In <%40>\ \ , > > " prashanthnair999 " > > prashanthnair999@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear kaul ji > > > > > > > > > > > > see this Link s > > > /message/15464 > > > > > </message/15464> > > > > > > > > > > > > /message/7561? > > thre\ > > > aded=1 & l=1 > > > > > </message/7561? > > thr\ > > > > > eaded=1 & l=1> > > > > > > (Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:15 am ) > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Myself & Mr. Sunil Nair were discussing the hororscopes of Democrat > > > nominees and compared both horoscopes.....assuming the current > > internet > > > data of their birth data is correct, it was interesting to observe > > Mr. > > > Obama is running currently 3HL & 6HL debilitated Jupiter, but > > exalted in > > > amsa, having a amsa sambadha with Moon i.e. navamsha having Gaj > > Kesari > > > Yoga. > > > > > > Mr. Obama, 4-Aug-1961, 13:06 hrs, Honolulu, Haiwaiin Islands { Libra > > > Lagna} > > > > > > Ms. Hillary Clinton, 26-Oct-1947, 20:05hrs, Chicago > > > > > > Cast the horoscopes and you will interesting yogas in the Mr. > > Obama's > > > chart. Given the choice of Experience Vs. Change, make your own > > > selection based on the astro combinations .... for it is very sure > > that > > > whoever is going to win the Democrats nomination, would end up at > > White > > > House. > > > > > > We concluded Mr. Obama hororscopes is strong enough and all > > probability > > > for his election winning...... > > > > > > Few issues that we seriously debilitated is - > > > > > > 1) Deb. Jupiter in natal,exalted in navamsa { will it give positive > > > results ??} > > > > > > 2) 3HL & 6HL Jupiter in Libra Lagna { will it deliver ??} > > > > > > 3) Dasha of Jupiter-Venus periods { will Jupiter Prevail over Venus > > > inspite of above (1) & (2)} > > > > > > 4) 4HL Saturn Vargottam {will it elevate him to White House} > > > > > > By any standards, it appears to be a very close call, by the USA > > > electorate. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:15 am ( means even b4 primaries and nomination > > they > > > hav predicted ) > > > > > > all the other VP candidates also later days only came up . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds Prashanth > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40>\ \ , > > " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > > > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > > > > > HinduCalendar <HinduCalendar%40>, > > " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > > > > a_krishen@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Shri I Menonji, > > > > Namaskar! > > > > <If the prediction was done when Obama and McCain announced their > > > > candidacy /candidature (I do not know what is the exact english > > > > word), then we could discover who is the right astrologist.> > > > > > > > > I recall that several years back, in Tamilnadu, all the 49 > > aspiring > > > > members of Parliament of AIADMK, including its supremo, Dr. J. > > > > Jayalalitha, had filed their nomination papers simultaneously--- > > at > > > > one and the same date and time and place---as per the advice of > > > > the " most famous Vedic astrologer " of J Jayalalitha! And for the > > > > first time in the hisotry of AIADMK, not a single member, > > including > > > > the superemo herself, was returned to the Parliament---thanks to > > > > the " special muhurta " by " special Vedic astrologer " . > > > > Then not in the distant past also, Messrs A B Vajpayee and Company > > > > lost their cherished throne by advancing the elections at the > > advice > > > > of " Minister of Vedic astrology " . Ironically, the " Minister " > > himself > > > > lost his seat though he had done all the yajnyas and Sahata- > > Chandis > > > > and what not! Maybe he lost because he had got " Vedic astrology " > > > > prescribed as an Elective subject by the UGC---which itself proves > > > > that " Vedic astrology " is anti-Vedic and the more one encourages > > it > > > > the more one will be the loser in the ultimate analsysis! > > > > Moral of the story, " You do not need enemies to ruin you if you > > > > have 'Vedic astrologers' to advise/guide you! > > > > Regards, > > > > AKK > > > > > > > > > > > > HinduCalendar <HinduCalendar%40>, > > vavamenon <vavamenon@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If the prediction was done when Obama and McCain announced their > > > > candidacy /candidature (I do not know what is the exact english > > > > word), then we could discover who is the right astrologist. > > > > > > > > > > Whatever predictions done one or two days before the election > > would > > > > not be scientific because the undecided voters when voting select > > the > > > > popular candidate and in this case, it is Obama. > > > > > > > > > > I can also predict that Barak Obama would win which is my gut > > > > feeling ! > > > > > > > > > > vm > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Pathmarajah Nagalingam <beastmy@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pathmarajah Nagalingam <beastmy@> > > > > > [HinduCalendar] Last Call > > > > > HinduCalendar <HinduCalendar%40> > > > > > Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last call to astrologers to make their claim whether McCain or > > Obama > > > > > will win! > > > > > > > > > > McCain is Magha and Osama is Pooradum nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > Pathma > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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