Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 To those interested, Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth details. Here they are. DOB:14TH JUNE 1968TOB:17.44 PMPLACE:MUMBAI I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. Dear xxxxxx, The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in combination with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. Assuming the birth time given as correct - The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the 10th house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to grant good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this combination, and not having much promise anyway. The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for political success. Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but cannot become a Chief Minister. The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in his political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. regards, Bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji,Namaste,It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing his Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularly in the affairs of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment?Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Birth Details - Raj Thakeray Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM To those interested, Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth details. Here they are. DOB:14TH JUNE 1968TOB:17.44 PMPLACE:MUMBAI I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. Dear xxxxxx, The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in combination with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. Assuming the birth time given as correct - The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the 10th house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to grant good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this combination, and not having much promise anyway. The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for political success. Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but cannot become a Chief Minister. The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in his political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. regards, Bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Bhattacharyaji, You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4 planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at 29 degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may have a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining, after which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the Jupiter opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed at Mercury - 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay. Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since he has created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve his efforts in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than the British policies. I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and not interested in spending my precious time on such people. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Namaste, > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing his Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularly in the affairs of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment? > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote: > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM > > > > > To those interested, > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth details. Here they are. > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968 > TOB:17.44 PM > PLACE:MUMBAI > > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. > > Dear xxxxxx, > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in combination with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. > Assuming the birth time given as correct - > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the 10th house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to grant good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this combination, and not having much promise anyway. > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for political success. > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but cannot become a Chief Minister. > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in his political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. > regards, > Bhaskar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results. This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th in Leo , the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna, making it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will give him good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reaches the Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began. Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savings and paying jobs and professions. The decline has to come necessarily ......... Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Bhattacharyaji, > > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4 > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at 29 > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may have > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining, after > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the Jupiter > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed at Mercury - > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay. > > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since he has > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve his efforts > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than the British > policies. > > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and not interested > in spending my precious time on such people. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Sunil Bhattacharjya > sunil_bhattacharjya@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing his > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularly in the affairs > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment? > > > > Regards, > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ > > Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To those interested, > > > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth > details. Here they are. > > > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968 > > TOB:17.44 PM > > PLACE:MUMBAI > > > > > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. > > > > Dear xxxxxx, > > > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in combination > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. > > Assuming the birth time given as correct - > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the 10th > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to grant > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this > combination, and not having much promise anyway. > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for > political success. > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but cannot > become a Chief Minister. > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in his > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. > > regards, > > Bhaskar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 This too slipped from my mind - If you apply the badhaksthana principles, then he has got 4 planets in badhaksthana which will create lots of trouble for him, and Jupiter may not be able to act in full conformity with its divine grace. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results. > > This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th in Leo , > the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna, making > it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will give him > good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reaches the > Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began. > > Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savings and > paying jobs and professions. > > The decline has to come necessarily ......... > > Bhaskar. > > > , " Bhaskar " > rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhattacharyaji, > > > > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4 > > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should > > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at > 29 > > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may > have > > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual > > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining, > after > > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable > > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the > Jupiter > > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed at Mercury > - > > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay. > > > > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since he has > > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve his efforts > > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than the British > > policies. > > > > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and not interested > > in spending my precious time on such people. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Sunil Bhattacharjya > > sunil_bhattacharjya@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing > his > > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularly in the > affairs > > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ > > > Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > > > > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To those interested, > > > > > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth > > details. Here they are. > > > > > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968 > > > TOB:17.44 PM > > > PLACE:MUMBAI > > > > > > > > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the > > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was > > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. > > > > > > Dear xxxxxx, > > > > > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in combination > > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. > > > Assuming the birth time given as correct - > > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the 10th > > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to grant > > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this > > combination, and not having much promise anyway. > > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for > > political success. > > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. > > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but cannot > > become a Chief Minister. > > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much > > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in > his > > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to > > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Bhaskaranji, From the birth details provided I get Scorpio as ascendant of Raj Thakeray. D D Trivedi--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Re: Birth Details - Raj Thakeray Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 5:31 PM This too slipped from my mind -If you apply the badhaksthana principles, then he has got 4 planets inbadhaksthana which will create lots of trouble for him, and Jupiter maynot be able to act in full conformity with its divine grace.Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"<rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:>>> I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results.>> This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th in Leo,> the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna,making> it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will give him> good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reaches the> Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began.>> Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savingsand> paying jobs and professions.>> The decline has to come necessarily .........>> Bhaskar.>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Bhattacharyaji,> >> > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4> > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should> > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at> 29> > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may> have> > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual> > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining,> after> > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable> > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the> Jupiter> > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed atMercury> -> > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay.> >> > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since hehas> > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve hisefforts> > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than theBritish> > policies.> >> > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and notinterested> > in spending my precious time on such people.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya> > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > Namaste,> > >> > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing> his> > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularl y in the> affairs> > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment?> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > >> > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Birth Details - Raj Thakeray> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > To those interested,> > >> > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth> > details. Here they are.> > >> > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968> > > TOB:17.44 PM> > > PLACE:MUMBAI> > >> > >> > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the> > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was> > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart.> > >> > > Dear xxxxxx,> > >> > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only incombination> > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics.> > > Assuming the birth time given as correct -> > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the10th> > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough togrant> > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this> > combination, and not having much promise anyway.> > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for> > political success.> > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push.> > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, butcannot> > become a Chief Minister.> > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much> > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in> his> > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to> > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart.> > > regards,> > > Bhaskar> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Trivedi ji, You are right, but at the moment I was replying to a note on the Sayana ascendant . regards, Bhaskar. , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskaranji, > > From the birth details provided I get Scorpio as ascendant of Raj Thakeray. > > D D Trivedi > > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote: > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Re: Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 5:31 PM > This too slipped from my mind - > > If you apply the badhaksthana principles, then he has got 4 planets in > badhaksthana which will create lots of trouble for him, and Jupiter may > not be able to act in full conformity with its divine grace. > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results. > > > > This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th in Leo > , > > the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna, > making > > it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will give him > > good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reaches the > > Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began. > > > > Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savings > and > > paying jobs and professions. > > > > The decline has to come necessarily ......... > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhattacharyaji, > > > > > > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4 > > > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should > > > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at > > 29 > > > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may > > have > > > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual > > > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining, > > after > > > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable > > > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the > > Jupiter > > > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed at > Mercury > > - > > > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay. > > > > > > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since he > has > > > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve his > efforts > > > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than the > British > > > policies. > > > > > > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and not > interested > > > in spending my precious time on such people. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing > > his > > > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularl y in the > > affairs > > > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To those interested, > > > > > > > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth > > > details. Here they are. > > > > > > > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968 > > > > TOB:17.44 PM > > > > PLACE:MUMBAI > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the > > > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was > > > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. > > > > > > > > Dear xxxxxx, > > > > > > > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in > combination > > > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. > > > > Assuming the birth time given as correct - > > > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the > 10th > > > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to > grant > > > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this > > > combination, and not having much promise anyway. > > > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for > > > political success. > > > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. > > > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but > cannot > > > become a Chief Minister. > > > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much > > > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in > > his > > > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to > > > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Mr. Bhaskar, I would like toplace my objection to he following statements The decline has to come necessarily .........and that You are not interested in his horoscope...etc etc.. I would like to ask you..are you the Lord? Or are you in the Divine Jury to say the decline Has to come?? Sorry you are not...Let the Lord decide based on his Karma... I believe this is an Astro Analysis group....not a forum to air your personal view points and biases. Do you know the plight of maharashtrians within their own state? Migrants come in hoards, create Political constituencies, Land masses and water bodies flocked with slums, life in Cities has become like living in a toilet...Many maharashtrians feel, his issues are right but methods are wrong....I do not think you have any right to cast aspersions on any leader in this forum... You all may be learned but adherance to Rules is a Must... Warm wishes & all the best...Kindly do not take this personally...I have highest regards for you all as Astro Wizards.. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Re: Birth Details - Raj Thakeray Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 7:01 AM This too slipped from my mind -If you apply the badhaksthana principles, then he has got 4 planets inbadhaksthana which will create lots of trouble for him, and Jupiter maynot be able to act in full conformity with its divine grace.Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"<rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:>>> I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results.>> This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th in Leo,> the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna,making> it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will give him> good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reaches the> Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began.>> Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savingsand> paying jobs and professions.>> The decline has to come necessarily .........>> Bhaskar.>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Bhattacharyaji,> >> > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4> > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should> > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at> 29> > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may> have> > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual> > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining,> after> > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable> > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the> Jupiter> > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed atMercury> -> > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay.> >> > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since hehas> > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve hisefforts> > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than theBritish> > policies.> >> > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and notinterested> > in spending my precious time on such people.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya> > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > Namaste,> > >> > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing> his> > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularl y in the> affairs> > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment?> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > >> > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Birth Details - Raj Thakeray> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > To those interested,> > >> > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth> > details. Here they are.> > >> > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968> > > TOB:17.44 PM> > > PLACE:MUMBAI> > >> > >> > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the> > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was> > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart.> > >> > > Dear xxxxxx,> > >> > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only incombination> > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics.> > > Assuming the birth time given as correct -> > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the10th> > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough togrant> > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this> > combination, and not having much promise anyway.> > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for> > political success.> > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push.> > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, butcannot> > become a Chief Minister.> > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much> > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in> his> > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to> > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart.> > > regards,> > > Bhaskar> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, Members, Well as many have rightly expressed doubts on birth time/data of public figures this seems valid here too. a slippery road to tread on. I too get Vrischika Lagna and with Guru+chandra in the 10th and 9th and 5th lord Guru in the best Kendra should make one a different breed of a human being, this man can't be called even a animal as they have some affection, loyalty, compassion] Guru in a Kendra and the best kendra or 11th is anti dote for many crores of aflictions said Garga maharishi. even if we discount his current phase to sade-sathis clouded intelligence it doesnt fit him. Guru dasa that starts later will make him a much better person as the dasa is lord is well placed and his poorvapunya comes into play in a positive manner. Guru is in 11th in D9, IN THE 4TH in D10. IN kETUS STAR, KETU IS AGAIN WELL PLACED IN THE 11TH INd1, 2nd in D9. it may be more of Tula lagna as rahu is in 6th and sani neecha with some neecha bhanga gives him a low level yoga 7th does represent masses anyway. a neecha mass following fits him better=gooons, blood thursty creatures. then Kuja & co goes to 8th aspecting his chandra and 6th lord Guru to ICE the cake ....? any thoughts on this pl let me know some data on him is required to be studied in anycase this is purely hypothisis and his current data if tru is testing astrological principles at its best best wishes prashant * Note: if i reply from my gmail ID it shows up as astro desk from webmail of AIA it is different as u c now the ID is same gbp_kumar though also when I address someone alone I may use ji as using a English Dear and 2,3 names with ji sounds odd. so rather stick to dear member.... no offence meant to anyone. , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskaranji, > > From the birth details provided I get Scorpio as ascendant of Raj Thakeray. > > D D Trivedi > > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote: > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Re: Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 5:31 PM > This too slipped from my mind - > > If you apply the badhaksthana principles, then he has got 4 planets in > badhaksthana which will create lots of trouble for him, and Jupiter may > not be able to act in full conformity with its divine grace. > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results. > > > > This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th in Leo > , > > the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna, > making > > it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will give him > > good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reaches the > > Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began. > > > > Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savings > and > > paying jobs and professions. > > > > The decline has to come necessarily ......... > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhattacharyaji, > > > > > > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4 > > > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that it should > > > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placed at > > 29 > > > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h e may > > have > > > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on the actual > > > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining, > > after > > > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable > > > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the > > Jupiter > > > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed at > Mercury > > - > > > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie to relay. > > > > > > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since he > has > > > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve his > efforts > > > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than the > British > > > policies. > > > > > > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and not > interested > > > in spending my precious time on such people. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya > > > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter is opposing > > his > > > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularl y in the > > affairs > > > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Birth Details - Raj Thakeray > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To those interested, > > > > > > > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth > > > details. Here they are. > > > > > > > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968 > > > > TOB:17.44 PM > > > > PLACE:MUMBAI > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the > > > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mines was > > > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart. > > > > > > > > Dear xxxxxx, > > > > > > > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in > combination > > > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics. > > > > Assuming the birth time given as correct - > > > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the > 10th > > > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to > grant > > > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this > > > combination, and not having much promise anyway. > > > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for > > > political success. > > > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good a push. > > > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but > cannot > > > become a Chief Minister. > > > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not hold much > > > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time ever in > > his > > > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to > > > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 relax everybody. stick to astro --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Re: Birth Details - Raj Thakeray Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 7:09 PM Mandar Sahab,We all know who are the majority community in the Government here and inthe Muncipal corporation and in the administraive force.Are you now attacking the Maharshtrians in the above offices for youhaving to suffer the areas infested with slums, crowded thorughfares,dirtiness all aroud and clogging of every nook and corner of Bombay ?How many " baharwalahs" are there in the Givernment offices,corporations and the Police force here ? Not even 5%Who takes the money as "hafta" every week from these slum dwellers ? Dothe UP Walahs or the Biharis or the Gujaratis take this hafta ?Who is to blame for the present state of affairs in Bombay ?My dear, it is the same local inhabitants themselves who proudthemselves in their feeling as Locals.Do yu know that the present Maharashtrian Mayor has visted foreign 5times in her small tenure alongwith her family ?I am sorry, but it is people like me who pay Income tax even onAstrological income which I show, and hundreds of other taxes to thegovernment , both State and Central, which pays for the localinhabitants salaries.Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Mandar B<mandar_bh07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Bhaskar,> I would like toplace my objection to he following statements>> The decline has to come necessarily .........and that You are notinterested in his horoscope... etc etc.. I would like to ask you..are youthe Lord? Or are you in the Divine Jury to say the decline Has to come??Sorry you are not...Let the Lord decide based on his Karma...>> I believe this is an Astro Analysis group....not a forum to air yourpersonal view points and biases. Do you know the plight ofmaharashtrians within their own state? Migrants come in hoards, createPolitical constituencies, Land masses and water bodies flocked withslums, life in Cities has become like living in a toilet...Manymaharashtrians feel, his issues are right but methods are wrong....I donot think you have any right to cast aspersions on any leader in thisforum...>> You all may be learned but adherance to Rules is a Must...>> Warm wishes & all the best...Kindly do not take this personally.. .Ihave highest regards for you all as Astro Wizards..>>>> --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Birth Details - Raj Thakeray> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 7:01 AM>>>>>>>> This too slipped from my mind ->> If you apply the badhaksthana principles, then he has got 4 planets in> badhaksthana which will create lots of trouble for him, and Jupitermay> not be able to act in full conformity with its divine grace.>> Bhaskar.>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > I forgot to mention why I was talking of temporary positive results.> >> > This was because he has got Dhanu Lagna, Jupiter placed in 9th inLeo> ,> > the Royal seat, in Dharma sthana is already aspecting his Lagna,> making> > it strong. Now this applying Trine in transit of Jupiter will givehim> > good effects and will save him from all troubles, till it reachesthe> > Natal orb, then crosses over, when the decline should began.> >> > Many have been killed, handicapped and lost their life long savings> and> > paying jobs and professions.> >> > The decline has to come necessarily .........> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Bhattacharyaji,> > >> > > You are right about the opposition in the 7th house where he has 4> > > planets opposing Jupiter today at 23 degrees. I feel that itshould> > > bring in positive impact because even his Natal Jupiter is placedat> > 29> > > degrees, which is applying aspect to the Jupiter in motion. h emay> > have> > > a temporary elevation instead, when this aspect comes on theactual> > > degrees , and maximum after December 12th it will start declining,> > after> > > which he will face a decline also in his public Life, and probable> > > defamation and disrepute. I am not yet taking the effect of the> > Jupiter> > > opposition on the other planets , in the same house placed at> Mercury> > -> > > 29 , Mars -25, and Venus -21, which have their own storie torelay.> > >> > > Actually I am not interested in this mans chart anymore, since he> has> > > created lot of factions in our state, and I do not approve his> efforts> > > in creating disunity amongst his own religion, worse than the> British> > > policies.> > >> > > I had just replied to another member on a KP forum, and not> interested> > > in spending my precious time on such people.> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, SunilBhattacharjya> > > sunil_bhattacharjya @ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > >> > > > Namaste,> > > >> > > > It appears to me, from Western astrology, that Jupiter isopposing> > his> > > Sun-sign and that may cause him some trouble,particularl y in the> > affairs> > > of the state (ie. in political affairs). Any comment?> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Birth Details - RajThakeray> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 11:15 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > To those interested,> > > >> > > > Sometime back, somebody here was looking for Raj Thakerays birth> > > details. Here they are.> > > >> > > > DOB:14TH JUNE 1968> > > > TOB:17.44 PM> > > > PLACE:MUMBAI> > > >> > > >> > > > I am also reproducing my mail ,written in a KP Forum, about the> > > possibility of his becoming a CM in future, which reply of mineswas> > > confirmed by another KP Senior and stalwart.> > > >> > > > Dear xxxxxx,> > > >> > > > The 9th house will also come in the picture, but only in> combination> > > with the 10th and the 11th, for success in Politics.> > > > Assuming the birth time given as correct -> > > > The first SubLord is The Planet Sun signifying the 7th and the> 10th> > > house, but not the 3rd . The Sun itself is not strong enough to> grant> > > good results. The 3rd Cusp of communications is absent in this> > > combination, and not having much promise anyway.> > > > The 10th SubLord is Venus which does not signify any promise for> > > political success.> > > > Only The Planet Ravi can give him some push, but not good apush.> > > > He can just have ups and down and a insignificant career, but> cannot> > > become a Chief Minister.> > > > The Guru MD will end in 2011, and the Shani Md does not holdmuch> > > promise. I do not think this man can attain success any time everin> > his> > > political career, except for some illfame and disrepute due to> > > activation of the 8th Cusp in his chart.> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar> > > >> > >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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