Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis

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Hare rama krishna

dear sreenadh ji

 

Thanks for this write up .This clearly establish the link between yogic and tantric philosophy with astrology .May b rishis has observed all this in gr8 depth and there may b similar valid reason in assigning dasa yrs and nakshtras etc .

but at present i think we dont hav proof ( is there is any connection with chakras ??and planetary periods ??)

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmainamah

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis> > -- Written by Sreenadh OG> > The history of the understanding of the co-relation goes back to the> ancient Agni Purana.> > Ayute dve sahasraikam shat satani tathaiva cha> > Ahoratrena yogeendro japasamkhyam karoti saH> > (Agni purana 214-25)> > [The great yogis complete the recitation (of breath; Ham-SaH mantra> – an inhale and exhale combination) of 21600 times within a day]> > The breath is termed `So-Ham' or `Ham-SaH' mantra.> `So' is the sound of breathing-in, "Ham' is the sound of> breathing-out. The `So-ham' is a complete breath. If one breaths> 21600 times in a day, the average time taken for a single breath would> be (24 x 60 x 60)/21600 = 4 sec.> > Even the common man's breath is similar to this. Then what is so> special in it for Yogis? The difference is that for the Yogis, it is NOT> simple breath; but instead they are `reciting'; reciting and> making themselves aware of the ultimate truth every moment – 21600> times a day! What truth? So-Ham = That is me (SaH Aham) = That ultimate> reality is me. The great sentences (Maha Vakyas) "Aham> Brahmasmi" and "Tat Tvam Asi" mean the same – "I am> the Ultimate ;That Ultimate reality is me; I am one with the divine; I> am god". I am no different from god; The divinity is one and the> same! This itself is the very difference of breathing of the common man> and the Yogi! The Yogi is aware of this great truth each and every> moment, he is remembering and reciting this truth with awareness each> and every moment but the common man is not – he too is breathing,> but what lacks is the "awareness of this great truth in every> moment" – the Yogi is living here and now with awareness but the> common man is not. This is the very difference! The common man breaths> 21600 times in a day – but the yogi recites with awareness 21600> times as day! His life every moment is like a prayer! We can be Yogis,> if we are aware of our breath `every moment'; we can be yogis if> we are `aware' every moment; if our consciousness is> `enlightened' or better if our inner sky is> `enlightened' with consciousness.> > Man breaths 21600 times a day. But the day is caused by the revolution> of earth. With in a time of 21600 breaths earth completes 360 degree> revolution. That means (360 x 60)/21600 = 1 min. Earth revolves 1 min of> an arc within a breath time (i.e. in 4 sec); in 4 sec earth revolves 1> min of an arc. This is exactly what Aryabhata says –> > Pranenaiti Kala BhooH (Aryabateeyam)> > [in a breath time earth revolves 1 min of an arc]> > What an excellent understanding of the bio-cosmic rhythm combination,> even in that ancient past!> > Actually this understanding is not limited to this. The circumference of> earth is 24901.55 miles (40075.16 kilometers). This distance is covered> in a day – in 21600 breath time. Therefore, in one breath time, the> earth covers 40075/21600 = 1.8553 KM/in 4 sec = 111.32 KM/min = 6679> KM/Hour. Thus it is evident that Aryabhata and the ancient author of > Agni purana was well aware of the speed of revolution of earth as well!> It is well evident that if the earth revolves with a speed of 1.85533> KM/4 sec; that means 1855 m/s, then they must have been aware that the> atmosphere revolves along with the earth (if not in a wind of that speed> nothing will be there in earth, as the ancient scholar Lalla puts it the> birds that fly up cannot reach their nests when they fly down). Is it> not wonderful?! Is it not wonderful that the ancient scholars such as> Aryabhata and the author of Agni purana knew the great truths such as> –> > · The bio-cosmic rhythmic correlation of human body and the> universe> > · They knew that the average number of breaths of a human> being is 21600 per day and also that the average time for a single> breath is 4 sec.> > · They knew that earth revolves 1 min of an arc in 4 sec.> > · They knew that the speed of revolution of earth si 1855 m/s> > · They knew that the Atmosphere revolves along with the earth> (and also that this is what saves us from ultimate destruction and> sustains life on earth)> > · They know that it is the attractive force of earth that> helps earth to keep the atmosphere to itself.> > But Alas! We fools think that they knew not much! We believe that all> these info is the findings of some modern day scholars! The de-merit> lies with such great ancient scholars or with us?!> > - 0 ->

[Guest guest]

Dear friend Sreenadh-ji,

 

I must confess that I think I fall into the category of the fools,

since I slightly disagree with the approximation used in this write-up.

 

Biologically many factors govern human breathing time, that is the

very reason that normal heart beat is a range and not a figure.

 

The rotation of the Earth is also approximated.

 

Also, the period of time this would have been true (if at all) should

be mentioned to render completeness in this article.

 

Rishis didn't always document all possibilities and thus comes in the

factor of Sthana, Kala and Patra.

 

Atheists and Homosexuals were not so open in ancient ages and yet I

donot know if their is a dictum which explains what a 5th. house (or

Saptamsa) could mean for a gay and a 9th. House for an atheist.

 

I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into

account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless we

do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be able

to apply them in real life.

 

However, I am nothing but a mere learner and thus please don't

hesitate to correct me.

 

Regards,

 

Souvik

 

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

>

> Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis

>

> -- Written by Sreenadh OG

>

> The history of the understanding of the co-relation goes back to the

> ancient Agni Purana.

>

> Ayute dve sahasraikam shat satani tathaiva cha

>

> Ahoratrena yogeendro japasamkhyam karoti saH

>

> (Agni purana 214-25)

>

> [The great yogis complete the recitation (of breath; Ham-SaH mantra

> – an inhale and exhale combination) of 21600 times within a day]

>

> The breath is termed `So-Ham' or `Ham-SaH' mantra.

> `So' is the sound of breathing-in, " Ham' is the sound of

> breathing-out. The `So-ham' is a complete breath. If one breaths

> 21600 times in a day, the average time taken for a single breath would

> be (24 x 60 x 60)/21600 = 4 sec.

>

> Even the common man's breath is similar to this. Then what is so

> special in it for Yogis? The difference is that for the Yogis, it is NOT

> simple breath; but instead they are `reciting'; reciting and

> making themselves aware of the ultimate truth every moment – 21600

> times a day! What truth? So-Ham = That is me (SaH Aham) = That ultimate

> reality is me. The great sentences (Maha Vakyas) " Aham

> Brahmasmi " and " Tat Tvam Asi " mean the same – " I am

> the Ultimate ;That Ultimate reality is me; I am one with the divine; I

> am god " . I am no different from god; The divinity is one and the

> same! This itself is the very difference of breathing of the common man

> and the Yogi! The Yogi is aware of this great truth each and every

> moment, he is remembering and reciting this truth with awareness each

> and every moment but the common man is not – he too is breathing,

> but what lacks is the " awareness of this great truth in every

> moment " – the Yogi is living here and now with awareness but the

> common man is not. This is the very difference! The common man breaths

> 21600 times in a day – but the yogi recites with awareness 21600

> times as day! His life every moment is like a prayer! We can be Yogis,

> if we are aware of our breath `every moment'; we can be yogis if

> we are `aware' every moment; if our consciousness is

> `enlightened' or better if our inner sky is

> `enlightened' with consciousness.

>

> Man breaths 21600 times a day. But the day is caused by the revolution

> of earth. With in a time of 21600 breaths earth completes 360 degree

> revolution. That means (360 x 60)/21600 = 1 min. Earth revolves 1 min of

> an arc within a breath time (i.e. in 4 sec); in 4 sec earth revolves 1

> min of an arc. This is exactly what Aryabhata says –

>

> Pranenaiti Kala BhooH (Aryabateeyam)

>

> [in a breath time earth revolves 1 min of an arc]

>

> What an excellent understanding of the bio-cosmic rhythm combination,

> even in that ancient past!

>

> Actually this understanding is not limited to this. The circumference of

> earth is 24901.55 miles (40075.16 kilometers). This distance is covered

> in a day – in 21600 breath time. Therefore, in one breath time, the

> earth covers 40075/21600 = 1.8553 KM/in 4 sec = 111.32 KM/min = 6679

> KM/Hour. Thus it is evident that Aryabhata and the ancient author of

> Agni purana was well aware of the speed of revolution of earth as well!

> It is well evident that if the earth revolves with a speed of 1.85533

> KM/4 sec; that means 1855 m/s, then they must have been aware that the

> atmosphere revolves along with the earth (if not in a wind of that speed

> nothing will be there in earth, as the ancient scholar Lalla puts it the

> birds that fly up cannot reach their nests when they fly down). Is it

> not wonderful?! Is it not wonderful that the ancient scholars such as

> Aryabhata and the author of Agni purana knew the great truths such as

> –

>

> · The bio-cosmic rhythmic correlation of human body and the

> universe

>

> · They knew that the average number of breaths of a human

> being is 21600 per day and also that the average time for a single

> breath is 4 sec.

>

> · They knew that earth revolves 1 min of an arc in 4 sec.

>

> · They knew that the speed of revolution of earth si 1855 m/s

>

> · They knew that the Atmosphere revolves along with the earth

> (and also that this is what saves us from ultimate destruction and

> sustains life on earth)

>

> · They know that it is the attractive force of earth that

> helps earth to keep the atmosphere to itself.

>

> But Alas! We fools think that they knew not much! We believe that all

> these info is the findings of some modern day scholars! The de-merit

> lies with such great ancient scholars or with us?!

>

> - 0 -

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Souvik ji, Many questions remains unanswered and will remain so - we can only ponder as much as our abilities and available info help us reach upto. //> I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into> account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless we> do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be able> to apply them in real life.// Agni Purana - I don't know when it was written. But the info it contains is much ancient than AD 4th century for sure. Aryabhateeeya - This is a text of 5th century AD. By the way the given article was nothing about "application in real life" but just and informative one - a bit related to science and a bit with Yoga. Practical application in astrology was NOT an intended purpuse for me while writing that article, and I never mentioned it so. But, yes, I agree that in an astrology group, applicable information has more weight compared to such info (for info) - i.e. information shared without keeping any 'practical application' or 'real life application' or 'usefulness' in mind. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan wrote:>> Dear friend Sreenadh-ji,> > I must confess that I think I fall into the category of the fools,> since I slightly disagree with the approximation used in this write-up.> > Biologically many factors govern human breathing time, that is the> very reason that normal heart beat is a range and not a figure.> > The rotation of the Earth is also approximated.> > Also, the period of time this would have been true (if at all) should> be mentioned to render completeness in this article.> > Rishis didn't always document all possibilities and thus comes in the> factor of Sthana, Kala and Patra.> > Atheists and Homosexuals were not so open in ancient ages and yet I> donot know if their is a dictum which explains what a 5th. house (or> Saptamsa) could mean for a gay and a 9th. House for an atheist.> > I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into> account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless we> do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be able> to apply them in real life.> > However, I am nothing but a mere learner and thus please don't> hesitate to correct me.> > Regards,> > Souvik> > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis> > > > -- Written by Sreenadh OG> > > > The history of the understanding of the co-relation goes back to the> > ancient Agni Purana.> > > > Ayute dve sahasraikam shat satani tathaiva cha> > > > Ahoratrena yogeendro japasamkhyam karoti saH> > > > (Agni purana 214-25)> > > > [The great yogis complete the recitation (of breath; Ham-SaH mantra> > ? an inhale and exhale combination) of 21600 times within a day]> > > > The breath is termed `So-Ham' or `Ham-SaH' mantra.> > `So' is the sound of breathing-in, "Ham' is the sound of> > breathing-out. The `So-ham' is a complete breath. If one breaths> > 21600 times in a day, the average time taken for a single breath would> > be (24 x 60 x 60)/21600 = 4 sec.> > > > Even the common man's breath is similar to this. Then what is so> > special in it for Yogis? The difference is that for the Yogis, it is NOT> > simple breath; but instead they are `reciting'; reciting and> > making themselves aware of the ultimate truth every moment ? 21600> > times a day! What truth? So-Ham = That is me (SaH Aham) = That ultimate> > reality is me. The great sentences (Maha Vakyas) "Aham> > Brahmasmi" and "Tat Tvam Asi" mean the same ? "I am> > the Ultimate ;That Ultimate reality is me; I am one with the divine; I> > am god". I am no different from god; The divinity is one and the> > same! This itself is the very difference of breathing of the common man> > and the Yogi! The Yogi is aware of this great truth each and every> > moment, he is remembering and reciting this truth with awareness each> > and every moment but the common man is not ? he too is breathing,> > but what lacks is the "awareness of this great truth in every> > moment" ? the Yogi is living here and now with awareness but the> > common man is not. This is the very difference! The common man breaths> > 21600 times in a day ? but the yogi recites with awareness 21600> > times as day! His life every moment is like a prayer! We can be Yogis,> > if we are aware of our breath `every moment'; we can be yogis if> > we are `aware' every moment; if our consciousness is> > `enlightened' or better if our inner sky is> > `enlightened' with consciousness.> > > > Man breaths 21600 times a day. But the day is caused by the revolution> > of earth. With in a time of 21600 breaths earth completes 360 degree> > revolution. That means (360 x 60)/21600 = 1 min. Earth revolves 1 min of> > an arc within a breath time (i.e. in 4 sec); in 4 sec earth revolves 1> > min of an arc. This is exactly what Aryabhata says ?> > > > Pranenaiti Kala BhooH (Aryabateeyam)> > > > [in a breath time earth revolves 1 min of an arc]> > > > What an excellent understanding of the bio-cosmic rhythm combination,> > even in that ancient past!> > > > Actually this understanding is not limited to this. The circumference of> > earth is 24901.55 miles (40075.16 kilometers). This distance is covered> > in a day ? in 21600 breath time. Therefore, in one breath time, the> > earth covers 40075/21600 = 1.8553 KM/in 4 sec = 111.32 KM/min = 6679> > KM/Hour. Thus it is evident that Aryabhata and the ancient author of > > Agni purana was well aware of the speed of revolution of earth as well!> > It is well evident that if the earth revolves with a speed of 1.85533> > KM/4 sec; that means 1855 m/s, then they must have been aware that the> > atmosphere revolves along with the earth (if not in a wind of that speed> > nothing will be there in earth, as the ancient scholar Lalla puts it the> > birds that fly up cannot reach their nests when they fly down). Is it> > not wonderful?! Is it not wonderful that the ancient scholars such as> > Aryabhata and the author of Agni purana knew the great truths such as> > ?> > > > ? The bio-cosmic rhythmic correlation of human body and the> > universe> > > > ? They knew that the average number of breaths of a human> > being is 21600 per day and also that the average time for a single> > breath is 4 sec.> > > > ? They knew that earth revolves 1 min of an arc in 4 sec.> > > > ? They knew that the speed of revolution of earth si 1855 m/s> > > > ? They knew that the Atmosphere revolves along with the earth> > (and also that this is what saves us from ultimate destruction and> > sustains life on earth)> > > > ? They know that it is the attractive force of earth that> > helps earth to keep the atmosphere to itself.> > > > But Alas! We fools think that they knew not much! We believe that all> > these info is the findings of some modern day scholars! The de-merit> > lies with such great ancient scholars or with us?!> > > > - 0 -> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh-ji,

 

Thank you for mentioning the time frames.

 

Please do not misunderstand me. I inquired about the time frame as

recently I was pondering over the question of ownership of zodiacs by

planets and discovered the importance of Solstice dates in ancient world.

 

Regards,

 

Souvik

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

>

> Dear Souvik ji,

> Many questions remains unanswered and will remain so - we can only

> ponder as much as our abilities and available info help us reach upto.

> //> I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into

> > account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless we

> > do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be able

> > to apply them in real life.//

> Agni Purana - I don't know when it was written. But the info it

> contains is much ancient than AD 4th century for sure.

> Aryabhateeeya - This is a text of 5th century AD.

> By the way the given article was nothing about " application in real

> life " but just and informative one - a bit related to science and a bit

> with Yoga. Practical application in astrology was NOT an intended

> purpuse for me while writing that article, and I never mentioned it so.

> But, yes, I agree that in an astrology group, applicable information has

> more weight compared to such info (for info) - i.e. information shared

> without keeping any 'practical application' or 'real life application'

> or 'usefulness' in mind. []

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Souvik Dutta "

> <explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend Sreenadh-ji,

> >

> > I must confess that I think I fall into the category of the fools,

> > since I slightly disagree with the approximation used in this

> write-up.

> >

> > Biologically many factors govern human breathing time, that is the

> > very reason that normal heart beat is a range and not a figure.

> >

> > The rotation of the Earth is also approximated.

> >

> > Also, the period of time this would have been true (if at all) should

> > be mentioned to render completeness in this article.

> >

> > Rishis didn't always document all possibilities and thus comes in the

> > factor of Sthana, Kala and Patra.

> >

> > Atheists and Homosexuals were not so open in ancient ages and yet I

> > donot know if their is a dictum which explains what a 5th. house (or

> > Saptamsa) could mean for a gay and a 9th. House for an atheist.

> >

> > I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into

> > account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless we

> > do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be able

> > to apply them in real life.

> >

> > However, I am nothing but a mere learner and thus please don't

> > hesitate to correct me.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Souvik

> >

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > sreesog@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis

> > >

> > > -- Written by Sreenadh OG

> > >

> > > The history of the understanding of the co-relation goes back to the

> > > ancient Agni Purana.

> > >

> > > Ayute dve sahasraikam shat satani tathaiva cha

> > >

> > > Ahoratrena yogeendro japasamkhyam karoti saH

> > >

> > > (Agni purana 214-25)

> > >

> > > [The great yogis complete the recitation (of breath; Ham-SaH mantra

> > > ? an inhale and exhale combination) of 21600 times within a day]

> > >

> > > The breath is termed `So-Ham' or `Ham-SaH' mantra.

> > > `So' is the sound of breathing-in, " Ham' is the sound of

> > > breathing-out. The `So-ham' is a complete breath. If one breaths

> > > 21600 times in a day, the average time taken for a single breath

> would

> > > be (24 x 60 x 60)/21600 = 4 sec.

> > >

> > > Even the common man's breath is similar to this. Then what is so

> > > special in it for Yogis? The difference is that for the Yogis, it is

> NOT

> > > simple breath; but instead they are `reciting'; reciting and

> > > making themselves aware of the ultimate truth every moment ? 21600

> > > times a day! What truth? So-Ham = That is me (SaH Aham) = That

> ultimate

> > > reality is me. The great sentences (Maha Vakyas) " Aham

> > > Brahmasmi " and " Tat Tvam Asi " mean the same ? " I am

> > > the Ultimate ;That Ultimate reality is me; I am one with the divine;

> I

> > > am god " . I am no different from god; The divinity is one and the

> > > same! This itself is the very difference of breathing of the common

> man

> > > and the Yogi! The Yogi is aware of this great truth each and every

> > > moment, he is remembering and reciting this truth with awareness

> each

> > > and every moment but the common man is not ? he too is breathing,

> > > but what lacks is the " awareness of this great truth in every

> > > moment " ? the Yogi is living here and now with awareness but the

> > > common man is not. This is the very difference! The common man

> breaths

> > > 21600 times in a day ? but the yogi recites with awareness 21600

> > > times as day! His life every moment is like a prayer! We can be

> Yogis,

> > > if we are aware of our breath `every moment'; we can be yogis if

> > > we are `aware' every moment; if our consciousness is

> > > `enlightened' or better if our inner sky is

> > > `enlightened' with consciousness.

> > >

> > > Man breaths 21600 times a day. But the day is caused by the

> revolution

> > > of earth. With in a time of 21600 breaths earth completes 360 degree

> > > revolution. That means (360 x 60)/21600 = 1 min. Earth revolves 1

> min of

> > > an arc within a breath time (i.e. in 4 sec); in 4 sec earth revolves

> 1

> > > min of an arc. This is exactly what Aryabhata says ?

> > >

> > > Pranenaiti Kala BhooH (Aryabateeyam)

> > >

> > > [in a breath time earth revolves 1 min of an arc]

> > >

> > > What an excellent understanding of the bio-cosmic rhythm

> combination,

> > > even in that ancient past!

> > >

> > > Actually this understanding is not limited to this. The

> circumference of

> > > earth is 24901.55 miles (40075.16 kilometers). This distance is

> covered

> > > in a day ? in 21600 breath time. Therefore, in one breath time, the

> > > earth covers 40075/21600 = 1.8553 KM/in 4 sec = 111.32 KM/min = 6679

> > > KM/Hour. Thus it is evident that Aryabhata and the ancient author of

> > > Agni purana was well aware of the speed of revolution of earth as

> well!

> > > It is well evident that if the earth revolves with a speed of

> 1.85533

> > > KM/4 sec; that means 1855 m/s, then they must have been aware that

> the

> > > atmosphere revolves along with the earth (if not in a wind of that

> speed

> > > nothing will be there in earth, as the ancient scholar Lalla puts it

> the

> > > birds that fly up cannot reach their nests when they fly down). Is

> it

> > > not wonderful?! Is it not wonderful that the ancient scholars such

> as

> > > Aryabhata and the author of Agni purana knew the great truths such

> as

> > > ?

> > >

> > > ? The bio-cosmic rhythmic correlation of human body and the

> > > universe

> > >

> > > ? They knew that the average number of breaths of a human

> > > being is 21600 per day and also that the average time for a single

> > > breath is 4 sec.

> > >

> > > ? They knew that earth revolves 1 min of an arc in 4 sec.

> > >

> > > ? They knew that the speed of revolution of earth si 1855 m/s

> > >

> > > ? They knew that the Atmosphere revolves along with the earth

> > > (and also that this is what saves us from ultimate destruction and

> > > sustains life on earth)

> > >

> > > ? They know that it is the attractive force of earth that

> > > helps earth to keep the atmosphere to itself.

> > >

> > > But Alas! We fools think that they knew not much! We believe that

> all

> > > these info is the findings of some modern day scholars! The de-merit

> > > lies with such great ancient scholars or with us?!

> > >

> > > - 0 -

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sreenadh Ji,

 

I quite liked your effort in establishing correspondences between the

self and cosmic rhythm.

 

The time scales as in the Vedic system of time reckoning too finds

its correspondence in the lower as well as higher orbits.

 

The life of Brahma which is 3.11E+11 years and the duration of Kalpa

which is 4.32E+9 years – the principal numerals – 3.11 & 4.32 too has

its resonance in the 360 day and 365 days cycle of the earth.

 

360 days = 3.1104 E+7 seconds.

 

365 days = 3.1104 E+7 + 4.32 E+5 seconds.

 

This could be dismissed as coincidence or excellent numerology but

for the probing mind it might make a lot of sense. Probably the

modern clock has its origin in the above Vedic reckoning of time.

 

Embedded in the above is also the value of the precession of equinox

of 50 arc seconds.

 

Regards

 

Bejoy.

www.keraladarsan.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Dear friend Sreenadh-ji,

>

> I must confess that I think I fall into the category of the fools,

> since I slightly disagree with the approximation used in this write-

up.

>

> Biologically many factors govern human breathing time, that is the

> very reason that normal heart beat is a range and not a figure.

>

> The rotation of the Earth is also approximated.

>

> Also, the period of time this would have been true (if at all)

should

> be mentioned to render completeness in this article.

>

> Rishis didn't always document all possibilities and thus comes in

the

> factor of Sthana, Kala and Patra.

>

> Atheists and Homosexuals were not so open in ancient ages and yet I

> donot know if their is a dictum which explains what a 5th. house (or

> Saptamsa) could mean for a gay and a 9th. House for an atheist.

>

> I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into

> account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless

we

> do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be

able

> to apply them in real life.

>

> However, I am nothing but a mere learner and thus please don't

> hesitate to correct me.

>

> Regards,

>

> Souvik

>

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis

>

>

 

> > -- Written by Sreenadh OG

> >

> > The history of the understanding of the co-relation goes back to

the

> > ancient Agni Purana.

> >

> > Ayute dve sahasraikam shat satani tathaiva cha

> >

> > Ahoratrena yogeendro japasamkhyam karoti saH

> >

> > (Agni purana 214-25)

> >

> > [The great yogis complete the recitation (of breath; Ham-SaH

mantra

> > – an inhale and exhale combination) of 21600 times within a day]

> >

> > The breath is termed `So-Ham' or `Ham-SaH' mantra.

> > `So' is the sound of breathing-in, " Ham' is the sound of

> > breathing-out. The `So-ham' is a complete breath. If one breaths

> > 21600 times in a day, the average time taken for a single breath

would

> > be (24 x 60 x 60)/21600 = 4 sec.

> >

> > Even the common man's breath is similar to this. Then what is so

> > special in it for Yogis? The difference is that for the Yogis, it

is NOT

> > simple breath; but instead they are `reciting'; reciting and

> > making themselves aware of the ultimate truth every moment – 21600

> > times a day! What truth? So-Ham = That is me (SaH Aham) = That

ultimate

> > reality is me. The great sentences (Maha Vakyas) " Aham

> > Brahmasmi " and " Tat Tvam Asi " mean the same – " I am

> > the Ultimate ;That Ultimate reality is me; I am one with the

divine; I

> > am god " . I am no different from god; The divinity is one and the

> > same! This itself is the very difference of breathing of the

common man

> > and the Yogi! The Yogi is aware of this great truth each and every

> > moment, he is remembering and reciting this truth with awareness

each

> > and every moment but the common man is not – he too is breathing,

> > but what lacks is the " awareness of this great truth in every

> > moment " – the Yogi is living here and now with awareness but the

> > common man is not. This is the very difference! The common man

breaths

> > 21600 times in a day – but the yogi recites with awareness 21600

> > times as day! His life every moment is like a prayer! We can be

Yogis,

> > if we are aware of our breath `every moment'; we can be yogis if

> > we are `aware' every moment; if our consciousness is

> > `enlightened' or better if our inner sky is

> > `enlightened' with consciousness.

> >

> > Man breaths 21600 times a day. But the day is caused by the

revolution

> > of earth. With in a time of 21600 breaths earth completes 360

degree

> > revolution. That means (360 x 60)/21600 = 1 min. Earth revolves 1

min of

> > an arc within a breath time (i.e. in 4 sec); in 4 sec earth

revolves 1

> > min of an arc. This is exactly what Aryabhata says –

> >

> > Pranenaiti Kala BhooH (Aryabateeyam)

> >

> > [in a breath time earth revolves 1 min of an arc]

> >

> > What an excellent understanding of the bio-cosmic rhythm

combination,

> > even in that ancient past!

> >

> > Actually this understanding is not limited to this. The

circumference of

> > earth is 24901.55 miles (40075.16 kilometers). This distance is

covered

> > in a day – in 21600 breath time. Therefore, in one breath time,

the

> > earth covers 40075/21600 = 1.8553 KM/in 4 sec = 111.32 KM/min =

6679

> > KM/Hour. Thus it is evident that Aryabhata and the ancient author

of

> > Agni purana was well aware of the speed of revolution of earth as

well!

> > It is well evident that if the earth revolves with a speed of

1.85533

> > KM/4 sec; that means 1855 m/s, then they must have been aware

that the

> > atmosphere revolves along with the earth (if not in a wind of

that speed

> > nothing will be there in earth, as the ancient scholar Lalla puts

it the

> > birds that fly up cannot reach their nests when they fly down).

Is it

> > not wonderful?! Is it not wonderful that the ancient scholars

such as

> > Aryabhata and the author of Agni purana knew the great truths

such as

> > –

> >

> > · The bio-cosmic rhythmic correlation of human body and

the

> > universe

> >

> > · They knew that the average number of breaths of a human

> > being is 21600 per day and also that the average time for a single

> > breath is 4 sec.

> >

> > · They knew that earth revolves 1 min of an arc in 4 sec.

> >

> > · They knew that the speed of revolution of earth si 1855

m/s

> >

> > · They knew that the Atmosphere revolves along with the

earth

> > (and also that this is what saves us from ultimate destruction and

> > sustains life on earth)

> >

> > · They know that it is the attractive force of earth that

> > helps earth to keep the atmosphere to itself.

> >

> > But Alas! We fools think that they knew not much! We believe that

all

> > these info is the findings of some modern day scholars! The de-

merit

> > lies with such great ancient scholars or with us?!

> >

> > - 0 -

> >

>

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Dear Bijoy ji, //> 360 days = 3.1104 E+7 seconds.> > 365 days = 3.1104 E+7 + 4.32 E+5 seconds.> > This could be dismissed as coincidence or excellent numerology but > for the probing mind it might make a lot of sense. Probably the > modern clock has its origin in the above Vedic reckoning of time.// That was an innovative bit of info - Thanks. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bejoy" <bejoy_cs wrote:>> > Hi Sreenadh Ji,> > I quite liked your effort in establishing correspondences between the > self and cosmic rhythm.> > The time scales as in the Vedic system of time reckoning too finds > its correspondence in the lower as well as higher orbits.> > The life of Brahma which is 3.11E+11 years and the duration of Kalpa > which is 4.32E+9 years – the principal numerals – 3.11 & 4.32 too has > its resonance in the 360 day and 365 days cycle of the earth.> > 360 days = 3.1104 E+7 seconds.> > 365 days = 3.1104 E+7 + 4.32 E+5 seconds.> > This could be dismissed as coincidence or excellent numerology but > for the probing mind it might make a lot of sense. Probably the > modern clock has its origin in the above Vedic reckoning of time.> > Embedded in the above is also the value of the precession of equinox > of 50 arc seconds.> > Regards> > Bejoy.> www.keraladarsan.com> > > > > > > > , "Souvik Dutta" > explore_vulcan@ wrote:> >> > Dear friend Sreenadh-ji,> > > > I must confess that I think I fall into the category of the fools,> > since I slightly disagree with the approximation used in this write-> up.> > > > Biologically many factors govern human breathing time, that is the> > very reason that normal heart beat is a range and not a figure.> > > > The rotation of the Earth is also approximated.> > > > Also, the period of time this would have been true (if at all) > should> > be mentioned to render completeness in this article.> > > > Rishis didn't always document all possibilities and thus comes in > the> > factor of Sthana, Kala and Patra.> > > > Atheists and Homosexuals were not so open in ancient ages and yet I> > donot know if their is a dictum which explains what a 5th. house (or> > Saptamsa) could mean for a gay and a 9th. House for an atheist.> > > > I believe that the time period of classics should be taken into> > account and the dictum looked in the light of the then age. Unless > we> > do so, many theories may just be theories to us and we may not be > able> > to apply them in real life.> > > > However, I am nothing but a mere learner and thus please don't> > hesitate to correct me.> > > > Regards,> > > > Souvik> > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Revolution of earth and breath of Yogis> > > > > > > > -- Written by Sreenadh OG> > > > > > The history of the understanding of the co-relation goes back to > the> > > ancient Agni Purana.> > > > > > Ayute dve sahasraikam shat satani tathaiva cha> > > > > > Ahoratrena yogeendro japasamkhyam karoti saH> > > > > > (Agni purana 214-25)> > > > > > [The great yogis complete the recitation (of breath; Ham-SaH > mantra> > > – an inhale and exhale combination) of 21600 times within a day]> > > > > > The breath is termed `So-Ham' or `Ham-SaH' mantra.> > > `So' is the sound of breathing-in, "Ham' is the sound of> > > breathing-out. The `So-ham' is a complete breath. If one breaths> > > 21600 times in a day, the average time taken for a single breath > would> > > be (24 x 60 x 60)/21600 = 4 sec.> > > > > > Even the common man's breath is similar to this. Then what is so> > > special in it for Yogis? The difference is that for the Yogis, it > is NOT> > > simple breath; but instead they are `reciting'; reciting and> > > making themselves aware of the ultimate truth every moment – 21600> > > times a day! What truth? So-Ham = That is me (SaH Aham) = That > ultimate> > > reality is me. The great sentences (Maha Vakyas) "Aham> > > Brahmasmi" and "Tat Tvam Asi" mean the same – "I am> > > the Ultimate ;That Ultimate reality is me; I am one with the > divine; I> > > am god". I am no different from god; The divinity is one and the> > > same! This itself is the very difference of breathing of the > common man> > > and the Yogi! The Yogi is aware of this great truth each and every> > > moment, he is remembering and reciting this truth with awareness > each> > > and every moment but the common man is not – he too is breathing,> > > but what lacks is the "awareness of this great truth in every> > > moment" – the Yogi is living here and now with awareness but the> > > common man is not. This is the very difference! The common man > breaths> > > 21600 times in a day – but the yogi recites with awareness 21600> > > times as day! His life every moment is like a prayer! We can be > Yogis,> > > if we are aware of our breath `every moment'; we can be yogis if> > > we are `aware' every moment; if our consciousness is> > > `enlightened' or better if our inner sky is> > > `enlightened' with consciousness.> > > > > > Man breaths 21600 times a day. But the day is caused by the > revolution> > > of earth. With in a time of 21600 breaths earth completes 360 > degree> > > revolution. That means (360 x 60)/21600 = 1 min. Earth revolves 1 > min of> > > an arc within a breath time (i.e. in 4 sec); in 4 sec earth > revolves 1> > > min of an arc. This is exactly what Aryabhata says –> > > > > > Pranenaiti Kala BhooH (Aryabateeyam)> > > > > > [in a breath time earth revolves 1 min of an arc]> > > > > > What an excellent understanding of the bio-cosmic rhythm > combination,> > > even in that ancient past!> > > > > > Actually this understanding is not limited to this. The > circumference of> > > earth is 24901.55 miles (40075.16 kilometers). This distance is > covered> > > in a day – in 21600 breath time. Therefore, in one breath time, > the> > > earth covers 40075/21600 = 1.8553 KM/in 4 sec = 111.32 KM/min = > 6679> > > KM/Hour. Thus it is evident that Aryabhata and the ancient author > of > > > Agni purana was well aware of the speed of revolution of earth as > well!> > > It is well evident that if the earth revolves with a speed of > 1.85533> > > KM/4 sec; that means 1855 m/s, then they must have been aware > that the> > > atmosphere revolves along with the earth (if not in a wind of > that speed> > > nothing will be there in earth, as the ancient scholar Lalla puts > it the> > > birds that fly up cannot reach their nests when they fly down). > Is it> > > not wonderful?! Is it not wonderful that the ancient scholars > such as> > > Aryabhata and the author of Agni purana knew the great truths > such as> > > –> > > > > > · The bio-cosmic rhythmic correlation of human body and > the> > > universe> > > > > > · They knew that the average number of breaths of a human> > > being is 21600 per day and also that the average time for a single> > > breath is 4 sec.> > > > > > · They knew that earth revolves 1 min of an arc in 4 sec.> > > > > > · They knew that the speed of revolution of earth si 1855 > m/s> > > > > > · They knew that the Atmosphere revolves along with the > earth> > > (and also that this is what saves us from ultimate destruction and> > > sustains life on earth)> > > > > > · They know that it is the attractive force of earth that> > > helps earth to keep the atmosphere to itself.> > > > > > But Alas! We fools think that they knew not much! We believe that > all> > > these info is the findings of some modern day scholars! The de-> merit> > > lies with such great ancient scholars or with us?!> > > > > > - 0 -> > >> >>