Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sreenadh ji good write up ,and it was as good as Hema drooma that was joking , good keep it up regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear All,> I am posting a simple article based on some Lunar Yogas below -> enjoy!> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> ====================================> Anabha, Sunabha, Dhurudhara, Kemadruma> > - Written by Sreenadh OG> > For lunar yogas with names Anabha, Sunabha, Dhurudhara & Kemadruma are> very popular. Many believe that these words are of Greek origin. They> provide the following info to support their argument. (E.g.:> http://www.robhand.com/histintr.htm> <http://www.robhand.com/histintr.htm> )> > > > > Sanskrit> > Greek> > English> > Sunapha> > Sunaphe> > Applying> > Anaphara> > Pnaphara (Anaphein)> > Separating> > Daurudhara> > Doruphoria> > Doryphory> > Kemadruma> > Kenodromia> > Void of C (Void of Course Moon)> > > > > This argument based on simple word similarity is simply wrong due to the> following facts â€"> > * The Sanskrit names of these Yogas are NOT Sunapha, Anaphara,> Daurudhara, but Sunabha, Anabha & Dhurudhara.> * The Greeks borrowed these words from Yavanas (Ionians) of the by> gone past; Ionians who co-existed and communicated with Crete and> Harappan people during 3rd and 2nd millennium BC. (Greek has only a> recent history from BC 800 onwards). Even Vedas (3rd millennium BC),> Panini and Parasara of BC 1400 mention Yavanacharya.> * These words are used only by Sphujidhvaja and Meenaraja of AD 250,> but also by the BC 1100 sages of the ancient past such as Sage Garga,> and also by the first authentic text of Indian astrology ‘Skanda> Hora’, the content of which could date back to BC 1500 or more.> * The Greeks to whom these words are attributed DOES NOT HAVE clear> root meaning to provide for these words! They are unable to explain how> these words originated and how and why they got the current astrological> meaning they have!> > If you are not satisfied with the above info, simply go through the> Sanskrit meaning of these words and understand why these words are> fundamentally words of Sanskrit/Indian origin.> > 1) Anabha> > ‘Bham’ is a popular Sanskrit word, which means> ‘Nakshtra’ or ‘Sign’. ‘Bham’> is a pure Sanksrit word and usually when get translated to Greek,> becomes ‘phara’ (note this point for later use).> ‘Anabha’ means ‘Preceding sign’. Thus> ‘Anabha Yoga’ means ‘Preceding sign from the Moon> sign should be occupied with planets’. This yoga was named so due> to the fact that ‘Anabha’ means ‘Preceding> Sign’.> > 2) Sunabha> > Here also the meaning is pretty clear. ‘Bham’ means sign> and ‘Sunabha’ means the ‘Succeeding sign’.> Thus ‘Sunabha Yoga’ means that the ‘Succeeding sign> from Moon sign should be occupied with planets’. This yoga was> named so due to the fact that ‘Sunabha’ means> ‘Succeeding Sign’.> > 3) Durudhara> > ‘Dhuru’ means Yoke or Balance and ‘Dhara’> means ‘weight’. Durudhara means ‘Balaced weight (on> both sides)’ like in a balance where weight is placed on both> sides. In Dhurudhara yoga, planets are present on both sides of Moon and> thus the name.> > 4) Kemadruma (Hema-druma)> > Can anyone tell me why this yoga is named so? I bet â€" you> won’t. But for sure, you all know that ‘Druma’ is a> Sanskrit word meaning ‘Tree’. The ancient Sanskrit name> for this yoga is ‘Hema druma’ referrign to a useless tree> providing green apple like poisonous fruit.(In malayalam it is called> Ummattin Kai. I don’t know the English name for this tree)> > If both sides of Moon is void of planets it is ‘Hema druma> Yoga’ - Means this combination makes the horoscope almost> useless. It makes the native devoid of maternal property and good mental> qualities making him poor. That is why the result> ‘poverty’ is attributed to this yoga. The word> ‘Hemadruma’ also means ‘Trouble giving tree’> like a thorny tree or an itching tree that may cause trouble and damage> to others. A native with strong ‘Hemadruma yoga’ is like a> troublesome useless plant.> > Please note the absurdity in translating the word ‘Anabha’> (Preceding Sign) as ‘Applying’ and Sunabha (Succeeding> Sign) as ‘Separating’ (refer to the table given in the> beginning) by the western scholars! They neither know the root of the> word not the meaning! In western astrology ‘applying> aspect’ means the aspect caused by a planet> ‘Nearing’ some other planet and ‘separating> aspect’ means the aspect caused by a planet ‘Going> away’ from some other planet. You should note that a> ‘retrograde planet in 12H from Moon’ (making a Anabha> Yoga) is producing ‘Separating aspect’ (and not Applying> aspect) and a ‘retrograde planet in 2H from Moon’ (making> a Sunabha Yoga) is producing ‘Applying aspect’ as opposed> to the translation suggested by the westerners.> > Blind guids the blind based on simple word similarity and without> considering the history (of cultures and words) and meaning of words!> What is all these? A simple article arguing in favor of Greeks appear> everywhere in numerous sites â€" whether it contains some real> valuable contents or not â€" and gains public support, usually of> if it is in favor of the popular and wrong Greek favoritistic argument!> All seems to be part of an absurd drama and lack of original thinking!> > Is it not time to look back and rethink? Let us be more sincere, logical> and systematic in our approach to safeguard against the baseless> arguments.> > - 0 -> > ====================================> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Dear Sreenadh-ji, Please do consider the fact that the retrograde motion is not properly interpreted by the western astrologers (modern). However, pre & post Coperniucus era and pre-Galileo, western astrologers did understand this retrograde motion better. Copernicus' model clearly shows the " moving back " of the planets wrt Earth. When the whole " Sun the center of the galaxy " came in, this model vanished. Retrogression is a very interesting phenomenon. Please do let me if you would consider an exalted Mercury (Retrograde) in 12H from Moon, would you say: a) " One who is born under sunapha in a configuration with Mercury is an eloquent and wise poet who knows music, singing, sacred traditions (Sruti), and sciences, a well behaved man, friendly to (all) creatures, whose fame and wealth increase. " OR b) " If Mercury enters into anaphara with the Moon, he is an orator who is clever at writing and transcribing, one who is devoted to music and acts of sexual intercourse, a poet whose deeds are well known and whose knowledge is authoritative. " ? ~ Souvik , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear All, > I am posting a simple article based on some Lunar Yogas below - > enjoy! > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > ==================================== > Anabha, Sunabha, Dhurudhara, Kemadruma > > - Written by Sreenadh OG > > For lunar yogas with names Anabha, Sunabha, Dhurudhara & Kemadruma are > very popular. Many believe that these words are of Greek origin. They > provide the following info to support their argument. (E.g.: > http://www.robhand.com/histintr.htm > <http://www.robhand.com/histintr.htm> ) > > > > > Sanskrit > > Greek > > English > > Sunapha > > Sunaphe > > Applying > > Anaphara > > Pnaphara (Anaphein) > > Separating > > Daurudhara > > Doruphoria > > Doryphory > > Kemadruma > > Kenodromia > > Void of C (Void of Course Moon) > > > > > This argument based on simple word similarity is simply wrong due to the > following facts †" > > * The Sanskrit names of these Yogas are NOT Sunapha, Anaphara, > Daurudhara, but Sunabha, Anabha & Dhurudhara. > * The Greeks borrowed these words from Yavanas (Ionians) of the by > gone past; Ionians who co-existed and communicated with Crete and > Harappan people during 3rd and 2nd millennium BC. (Greek has only a > recent history from BC 800 onwards). Even Vedas (3rd millennium BC), > Panini and Parasara of BC 1400 mention Yavanacharya. > * These words are used only by Sphujidhvaja and Meenaraja of AD 250, > but also by the BC 1100 sages of the ancient past such as Sage Garga, > and also by the first authentic text of Indian astrology ‘Skanda > Hora’, the content of which could date back to BC 1500 or more. > * The Greeks to whom these words are attributed DOES NOT HAVE clear > root meaning to provide for these words! They are unable to explain how > these words originated and how and why they got the current astrological > meaning they have! > > If you are not satisfied with the above info, simply go through the > Sanskrit meaning of these words and understand why these words are > fundamentally words of Sanskrit/Indian origin. > > 1) Anabha > > ‘Bham’ is a popular Sanskrit word, which means > ‘Nakshtra’ or ‘Sign’. ‘Bham’ > is a pure Sanksrit word and usually when get translated to Greek, > becomes ‘phara’ (note this point for later use). > ‘Anabha’ means ‘Preceding sign’. Thus > ‘Anabha Yoga’ means ‘Preceding sign from the Moon > sign should be occupied with planets’. This yoga was named so due > to the fact that ‘Anabha’ means ‘Preceding > Sign’. > > 2) Sunabha > > Here also the meaning is pretty clear. ‘Bham’ means sign > and ‘Sunabha’ means the ‘Succeeding sign’. > Thus ‘Sunabha Yoga’ means that the ‘Succeeding sign > from Moon sign should be occupied with planets’. This yoga was > named so due to the fact that ‘Sunabha’ means > ‘Succeeding Sign’. > > 3) Durudhara > > ‘Dhuru’ means Yoke or Balance and ‘Dhara’ > means ‘weight’. Durudhara means ‘Balaced weight (on > both sides)’ like in a balance where weight is placed on both > sides. In Dhurudhara yoga, planets are present on both sides of Moon and > thus the name. > > 4) Kemadruma (Hema-druma) > > Can anyone tell me why this yoga is named so? I bet †" you > won’t. But for sure, you all know that ‘Druma’ is a > Sanskrit word meaning ‘Tree’. The ancient Sanskrit name > for this yoga is ‘Hema druma’ referrign to a useless tree > providing green apple like poisonous fruit.(In malayalam it is called > Ummattin Kai. I don’t know the English name for this tree) > > If both sides of Moon is void of planets it is ‘Hema druma > Yoga’ - Means this combination makes the horoscope almost > useless. It makes the native devoid of maternal property and good mental > qualities making him poor. That is why the result > ‘poverty’ is attributed to this yoga. The word > ‘Hemadruma’ also means ‘Trouble giving tree’ > like a thorny tree or an itching tree that may cause trouble and damage > to others. A native with strong ‘Hemadruma yoga’ is like a > troublesome useless plant. > > Please note the absurdity in translating the word ‘Anabha’ > (Preceding Sign) as ‘Applying’ and Sunabha (Succeeding > Sign) as ‘Separating’ (refer to the table given in the > beginning) by the western scholars! They neither know the root of the > word not the meaning! In western astrology ‘applying > aspect’ means the aspect caused by a planet > ‘Nearing’ some other planet and ‘separating > aspect’ means the aspect caused by a planet ‘Going > away’ from some other planet. You should note that a > ‘retrograde planet in 12H from Moon’ (making a Anabha > Yoga) is producing ‘Separating aspect’ (and not Applying > aspect) and a ‘retrograde planet in 2H from Moon’ (making > a Sunabha Yoga) is producing ‘Applying aspect’ as opposed > to the translation suggested by the westerners. > > Blind guids the blind based on simple word similarity and without > considering the history (of cultures and words) and meaning of words! > What is all these? A simple article arguing in favor of Greeks appear > everywhere in numerous sites †" whether it contains some real > valuable contents or not †" and gains public support, usually of > if it is in favor of the popular and wrong Greek favoritistic argument! > All seems to be part of an absurd drama and lack of original thinking! > > Is it not time to look back and rethink? Let us be more sincere, logical > and systematic in our approach to safeguard against the baseless > arguments. > > - 0 - > > ==================================== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Souvik ji, //Please do let me if you would consider an exalted Mercury(Retrograde) in 12H from Moon, would you say:a) "One who is born under sunapha in a configuration with Mercury isan eloquent and wise poet who knows music, singing, sacred traditions(Sruti), and sciences, a well behaved man, friendly to (all)creatures, whose fame and wealth increase."ORb) "If Mercury enters into anaphara with the Moon, he is an oratorwho is clever at writing and transcribing, one who is devoted tomusic and acts of sexual intercourse, a poet whose deeds are wellknown and whose knowledge is authoritative."// First, let me know from where you arq quoting. Second, that article of Anabha, Sunabha, Durudhara, Kemadruma is just a starting. I plan to write at least 3 articles in this series, in which I plan to cover the results attributed to these combinations as per ancient sage quotes (such as Skanda and Garga) as well. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > Please do consider the fact that the retrograde motion is not > properly interpreted by the western astrologers (modern).> > However, pre & post Coperniucus era and pre-Galileo, western > astrologers did understand this retrograde motion better.> > Copernicus' model clearly shows the "moving back" of the planets wrt > Earth.> > When the whole "Sun the center of the galaxy" came in, this model > vanished.> > Retrogression is a very interesting phenomenon.> > Please do let me if you would consider an exalted Mercury > (Retrograde) in 12H from Moon, would you say:> a) "One who is born under sunapha in a configuration with Mercury is > an eloquent and wise poet who knows music, singing, sacred traditions > (Sruti), and sciences, a well behaved man, friendly to (all) > creatures, whose fame and wealth increase."> OR> b) "If Mercury enters into anaphara with the Moon, he is an orator > who is clever at writing and transcribing, one who is devoted to > music and acts of sexual intercourse, a poet whose deeds are well > known and whose knowledge is authoritative."> ?> > ~ Souvik> > > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear All,> > I am posting a simple article based on some Lunar Yogas below -> > enjoy!> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > ====================================> > Anabha, Sunabha, Dhurudhara, Kemadruma> > > > - Written by Sreenadh OG> > > > For lunar yogas with names Anabha, Sunabha, Dhurudhara & Kemadruma > are> > very popular. Many believe that these words are of Greek origin. > They> > provide the following info to support their argument. (E.g.:> > http://www.robhand.com/histintr.htm> > <http://www.robhand.com/histintr.htm> )> > > > > > > > > > Sanskrit> > > > Greek> > > > English> > > > Sunapha> > > > Sunaphe> > > > Applying> > > > Anaphara> > > > Pnaphara (Anaphein)> > > > Separating> > > > Daurudhara> > > > Doruphoria> > > > Doryphory> > > > Kemadruma> > > > Kenodromia> > > > Void of C (Void of Course Moon)> > > > > > > > > > This argument based on simple word similarity is simply wrong due > to the> > following facts …amp;quot;> > > > * The Sanskrit names of these Yogas are NOT Sunapha, Anaphara,> > Daurudhara, but Sunabha, Anabha & Dhurudhara.> > * The Greeks borrowed these words from Yavanas (Ionians) of the > by> > gone past; Ionians who co-existed and communicated with Crete and> > Harappan people during 3rd and 2nd millennium BC. (Greek has only a> > recent history from BC 800 onwards). Even Vedas (3rd millennium BC),> > Panini and Parasara of BC 1400 mention Yavanacharya.> > * These words are used only by Sphujidhvaja and Meenaraja of AD > 250,> > but also by the BC 1100 sages of the ancient past such as Sage > Garga,> > and also by the first authentic text of Indian astrology ‘Skanda> > Hora’, the content of which could date back to BC 1500 or more.> > * The Greeks to whom these words are attributed DOES NOT HAVE > clear> > root meaning to provide for these words! They are unable to explain > how> > these words originated and how and why they got the current > astrological> > meaning they have!> > > > If you are not satisfied with the above info, simply go through the> > Sanskrit meaning of these words and understand why these words are> > fundamentally words of Sanskrit/Indian origin.> > > > 1) Anabha> > > > ‘Bham’ is a popular Sanskrit word, which means> > ‘Nakshtra’ or ‘Sign’. ‘Bham’> > is a pure Sanksrit word and usually when get translated to Greek,> > becomes ‘phara’ (note this point for later use).> > ‘Anabha’ means ‘Preceding sign’. Thus> > ‘Anabha Yoga’ means ‘Preceding sign from the Moon> > sign should be occupied with planets’. This yoga was named so due> > to the fact that ‘Anabha’ means ‘Preceding> > Sign’.> > > > 2) Sunabha> > > > Here also the meaning is pretty clear. ‘Bham’ means sign> > and ‘Sunabha’ means the ‘Succeeding sign’.> > Thus ‘Sunabha Yoga’ means that the ‘Succeeding sign> > from Moon sign should be occupied with planets’. This yoga was> > named so due to the fact that ‘Sunabha’ means> > ‘Succeeding Sign’.> > > > 3) Durudhara> > > > ‘Dhuru’ means Yoke or Balance and ‘Dhara’> > means ‘weight’. Durudhara means ‘Balaced weight (on> > both sides)’ like in a balance where weight is placed on both> > sides. In Dhurudhara yoga, planets are present on both sides of > Moon and> > thus the name.> > > > 4) Kemadruma (Hema-druma)> > > > Can anyone tell me why this yoga is named so? I bet …amp;quot; you> > won’t. But for sure, you all know that ‘Druma’ is a> > Sanskrit word meaning ‘Tree’. The ancient Sanskrit name> > for this yoga is ‘Hema druma’ referrign to a useless tree> > providing green apple like poisonous fruit.(In malayalam it is > called> > Ummattin Kai. I don’t know the English name for this tree)> > > > If both sides of Moon is void of planets it is ‘Hema druma> > Yoga’ - Means this combination makes the horoscope almost> > useless. It makes the native devoid of maternal property and good > mental> > qualities making him poor. That is why the result> > ‘poverty’ is attributed to this yoga. The word> > ‘Hemadruma’ also means ‘Trouble giving tree’> > like a thorny tree or an itching tree that may cause trouble and > damage> > to others. A native with strong ‘Hemadruma yoga’ is like a> > troublesome useless plant.> > > > Please note the absurdity in translating the word ‘Anabha’> > (Preceding Sign) as ‘Applying’ and Sunabha (Succeeding> > Sign) as ‘Separating’ (refer to the table given in the> > beginning) by the western scholars! They neither know the root of > the> > word not the meaning! In western astrology ‘applying> > aspect’ means the aspect caused by a planet> > ‘Nearing’ some other planet and ‘separating> > aspect’ means the aspect caused by a planet ‘Going> > away’ from some other planet. You should note that a> > ‘retrograde planet in 12H from Moon’ (making a Anabha> > Yoga) is producing ‘Separating aspect’ (and not Applying> > aspect) and a ‘retrograde planet in 2H from Moon’ (making> > a Sunabha Yoga) is producing ‘Applying aspect’ as opposed> > to the translation suggested by the westerners.> > > > Blind guids the blind based on simple word similarity and without> > considering the history (of cultures and words) and meaning of > words!> > What is all these? A simple article arguing in favor of Greeks > appear> > everywhere in numerous sites …amp;quot; whether it contains some real> > valuable contents or not …amp;quot; and gains public support, usually of> > if it is in favor of the popular and wrong Greek favoritistic > argument!> > All seems to be part of an absurd drama and lack of original > thinking!> > > > Is it not time to look back and rethink? Let us be more sincere, > logical> > and systematic in our approach to safeguard against the baseless> > arguments.> > > > - 0 -> > > > ====================================> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Sreenadh-ji, My source: http://www.astrojyoti.com/yavanajatakamainpage.htm Chapter 10. I shall be eagerly waiting for your write-ups on this. Mer Exalted Retrograde 12th. from Moon might be found in many cases one being in the chart of Shri Amitabh Bachchan. Regards, Souvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Souvik ji, * Mercury in 12th from Moon is Anabha Yoga for sure. You are quoting the results provided by Sphujidhvaja, but the results that should be predicted are given by other sages like Skanda and Garga. In my write-up I will try to cover the opinians of all - the opinians of both Arsha and Yavana teachers. Note: By the way I seems to have made some typos in my previous mail (the article), I will try to correct them and uplaod the the updated version as time permits. Love and Regards,Sreenadh-- In , "Souvik Dutta" <explore_vulcan wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > My source:> http://www.astrojyoti.com/yavanajatakamainpage.htm> Chapter 10.> > I shall be eagerly waiting for your write-ups on this.> > Mer Exalted Retrograde 12th. from Moon might be found in many cases> one being in the chart of Shri Amitabh Bachchan.> > Regards,> > Souvik> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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