Jupiter + Saturn in 10th house / Bhaskar ji

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Lal Kitab Perspective :

Dear Bhaskar ji,

For this combination in the 10th house the Lal Kitab says :

mansarovar duniya banata, Ganesh daata siddha hota ho

maya naya siri jo guru detaa, shani safachat kartaa ho

he will be a sarovar of maan, an epitome of respect, like the respect of siddhi daata Ganesh ji.

What ever maya or dhan that will be given by the jupiter will be destroyed if he develops the characteristics of the Saturn.

If a person develops laziness, or the habit of drinking, eating meat, telling lies, giving false evidence etc then whatever the dhan he earns will be destroyed.

The logic is that if the saturn habits are inculcated then the saturn will be strong and depress the jupiter. The jupiter is already considered as in debility in the 10th house.

Sincerely,

S P Khurana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shri Khuranaji,> > Yes thats good. Thank You.> > Everyone likes to hear nice results. So You made me happy.> > This year I have Jupiter and Saturn together in the 10th house, which> also I suppose would be positive.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "khurana_satpal"> khurana_satpal@ wrote:> >> > Lal Kitab perspective :> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > During the 48th year you have mercury + Sun in the 1st house. For> > mercury it is said ghar pakka jis grah ka hoga vahan vahi ban> > bhaith ta ho , here the mercury will also give the results of the> > sun. Since the sun is considered exalted in the 1st house, the> > mercury would also give exalted results. It becomes all the more> > auspicious with the sun and that too in Leo.> >> > Since the sun is your lagnesh, this combination of the mercury and> > the sun in the 1st house will make a very big positive change in> > your personality, confidence , health etc.> >> > The Lal Kitab further says ghar pahale 10 ghoomta raja, parivar dhan> > deta ho. Therefore it will certainly give you financial gains.> >> > For this combination in the 1st house the Lal Kitab says mantri> > saman salahkar, hare bhare jangal ki kismet mein shan hogi, ganit> > vidya aur yogabhyas se labh hoga, dhani, rajdarbar se nek talluq, am> > darbari jhagaron ka faisala haq mein hoga.> >> > Since the mercury is of shani swabhav [ worked out through a> > formula] which is placed in the 10th house during the 48th year,> > therefore it should affect your profession also very positively. It> > will be good for any business enterprise.> >> > As a novice in Lal Kitab this is what I make out of your sun +> > mercury placement in lagna for this year.> >> > Sincerely,> >> > S P Khurana> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Khuranaji and Jaswalji,> > >> > > What about those with Mercury in the 11th in the Natal Chart ?> > >> > > In the 48th year, this Mercury comes to the 1 st House, in the> > annual> > > chart.> > >> > > Does it not make the native wealthy and prosperous in the years> > 48th,> > > 57th and the 72nd year ?> > >> > > Some one mentioned " about evil sensous feelings ". I would say> > that we> > > are past such ages of evil intentions coming to our minds,> > considering> > > the path of astrology which we are treading, but yes, temptations> > can be> > > a plenty for whole Life long, which have to be countered with> > positive> > > and dharmic righteousness feelings by any native who has to> > progress on> > > the spiritual paths.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > , "khurana_satpal"> > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jaswal ji,> > > >> > > > What Pt. Gopesh Kumar Ojha ji has said is also said in Lal> > Kitab. In> > > > Arun Sanhita on page 241 for ketu the book says " sansar ke kam> > hal> > > > karne ke liye, idhar udhar salah karne ke liye daur dhoop ka yah> > 48> > > > sala ayu ka samay Ketu ka samay hoga"> > > >> > > > Sincerely,> > > >> > > > S P Khurana> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Ram Jaswal"> > > > rkjaswal@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the reply confirming most “commonâ€> traits> > > of Ketu in> > > > 7th Hse ……> > > > >> > > > > Per Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha Ketu’s “great> > > year†is 48 …quot; which you> > > > have just begun. Again I take Ketu to co-lord Scorpio hence> > > > affecting your 4th & 7th Hse’s …quot; please take> extra care> > > regarding> > > > both during this year …….> > > > >> > > > > Re:Pundit Bhooshanji …quot; in that group he only answers> > queries> > > from> > > > those seeking help directly and doesn’t partake in any Lal> > > Kitab> > > > discussions. If wishing to discuss then> > > > join “lalkitab †group.> > > > >> > > > > Per Jaimini your AK is Venus hence life lesson is to be a> > > “clean> > > > person without any ill thoughts towards fair sex leading a satwik> > > > life†whilst your Ista Devata is Ganapati/Skanda as> signified> > > by> > > > Ketu implying aspirations of Moksha. Your Dharma Devata is> > > > Shiva/Shri Ram ji …….> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes …….> > > > >> > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > >> > > > > Ram> > > > >> > > > > _____> > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of> > > > Bhaskar> > > > > 11 October 2008 19:07> > > > > > > > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please> > read> > > > this . Its revealing.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ram Jaiswalji,> > > > >> > > > > I have already put a query about a year back in Group of Priya> > > > > Bhooshanji, whic was not about my personal chart, but about> > some> > > > > technical confirmations, which did not even eecit a response,> > > > forget any> > > > > reply, after that I never visited that Forum ever. But if you> > > > suggest> > > > > then I may post a enquiry there one of these days, but I do my> > > > studies> > > > > myself on my chart, and do not take whatever anyone says at> > deep> > > > level,> > > > > but just at surface level.> > > > >> > > > > About Ketu in my 7th house , I will comment later on, but as> > per> > > > lal> > > > > Kitab, it is supposed to offer favourable results when native> > > > attains> > > > > age of 55. And also when the native son attains major age.> > > > >> > > > > Yes My wife is very hot tempered, but she is also very> > religious,> > > > and> > > > > whatever she utters, comes our true. If she curses someone it> > will> > > > come> > > > > out true, if she blesses someone it will manifest. She is a> > stauch> > > > lover> > > > > of Hanuman Baba and Shrikrishna, and a daughter from a family> > of> > > > > devotees and from a very rich business family . When she> > > > criticises with> > > > > her 3 inch tongue even a man of 6 feet will be mowed down like> > a> > > > > spineless rubber, and when she praises, then the praise will be> > > > geuine.> > > > > She certainly holds respect from all those who come in contact> > > > with her.> > > > > This much info. is enough for the moment, about her.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ <%> > > > 40> astrology , "Ram Jaswal"> > > > > <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaste Bhaskarji> > > > > >> > > > > > Re:Lal Kitab may I suggest your contacting Pundit Priya> > > > Bhooshanji of> > > > > â€Ŧquot;@> > > <%40>> > > > â€Â?> > > > > >> > > > > > Personally speaking I feel Ketu is the Graha to be> > propitiated?> > > > If I> > > > > may ask is your wife of a â€Ŧquot;short> temper†as> > > Ketu in 7th> > > > > Hse generally denotes this amongst other things?> > Re:disagreements> > > > during> > > > > Rahu Kalam periods I assume generally as opposed from only> > > > Fridays? Per> > > > > Vim you are currently in Rahu/Rahu/Mer and Chara Tau/Aqu> â€"> > > I> > > > > consider Rahu as co-lord of Aqu hence understandable 7th Hse> > focus> > > > > during said periods ….> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes …..> > > > > >> > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > >> > > > > > Ram> > > > > >> > > > > > _____> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%> > > > 40> astrology > > > > > [ancient_indian_ <%> > > > 40> astrology ] On Behalf Of> > > > > khurana_satpal> > > > > > 11 October 2008 13:04> > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%> > > > 40> astrology > > > > > > Re: Rahu Kalam - Please> > read> > > > this> > > > > . Its revealing.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > I am still a novice as far as the Lal Kitab is concerned.> > > > Devising> > > > > > Lal Kitab upaya is a very serious matter and should not be> > done> > > > by> > > > > > beginners like me. Therefore I suggest that Bhaskar ji should> > > > > > consult some senior Lal Kitab scholar/s. I will not be in a> > > > position> > > > > > to suggest any name either.> > > > > >> > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > >> > > > > > S P Khurana> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > <%40>> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>> > > > ps.com, "sunil nair"> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear satpal khurana ji ,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > many many thanks for giving us Lal kitab perspectivses .I> > > > always> > > > > > > wonder always abt any system of indian predictiv systems> > will b> > > > > > > contributing to each other than contradicting each other .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > what ever way we look it ,is not a matter of concern> > wheter its> > > > > > > various astrology form s or hand reading or samudrika> > > > sastra .We> > > > > > must b> > > > > > > gr8ful to our ancesters and gr8 rishis for giving us such> > a gr8> > > > > > sciences> > > > > > > which is helping humanity in general .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now sir one thing u dont made it clear .U said "Therefore> > > > Bhaskar> > > > > > ji> > > > > > > will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to> > normalize> > > > the> > > > > > > situation "> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > can u suggest remedies what shud b done by bhaskar ji ,so> > the> > > > > > nativ is> > > > > > > out of this kind of pestering problem tho it is not seems> > to b> > > > big> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > after all this is for reliving the tension and> > problems .so the> > > > > > remedial> > > > > > > measures r important . can u suggest tru grp or mail> > > > > > >> > > > > > > by the by Bhaskarjis computer is in trouble and his access> > is> > > > > > limited i> > > > > > > heard frm him yestrday ,so i dont know when he will b> > > > comfortable> > > > > > with> > > > > > > that .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank u for trying the chart> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > >> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > <%40>> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>> > > > ps.com, "khurana_satpal"> > > > > > > <khurana_satpal@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar> > > ji’s> > > > > > > > predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem> > with> > > > the> > > > > > Lal> > > > > > > > Kitab perspective.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji’ s contention that> Venus> > > happens to be the> > > > > main> > > > > > > > culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th> > year> > > > Varsh> > > > > > Phal> > > > > > > > chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal> > > > Kitab> > > > > > says :> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > â€Å" Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat> hua> > > > > bairag†when> > > > > > > > the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain> > > > amount of> > > > > > > > disenchantment. â€Å" aurat hua> > > bairag†can be> > > > > interpreted> > > > > > > > both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean> > > > that in> > > > > > her> > > > > > > too> > > > > > > > the fire of passion is no longer as strong.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been> > pronounced> > > > > > after> > > > > > > June> > > > > > > > this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e.> > > > during> > > > > > his> > > > > > > > entire 48th year.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ?> > The> > > > Lal> > > > > > Kitab> > > > > > > > doesn’t say any thing about it> > > because in North India> > > > > specially> > > > > > > > the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from,> > Rahu> > > > Kal> > > > > > is not> > > > > > > > much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and> > the> > > > Rahu> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come> > > > forth> > > > > > during> > > > > > > > the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his> > Rahu/Rahu> > > > > > dasha.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his> > > > Venus in> > > > > > order> > > > > > > > to normalize the situation.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > S P Khurana> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > <%40>> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>> > > > ps.com, "sunil nair"> > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dear astro surfer ji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope> > such> > > > > > trends> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm> > sri> > > > > > bhaskar ji> > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is> > > > > > entrusted> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka> > for> > > > > > neccessary> > > > > > > > > fire needed for spiritulaity .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some> > > > > > opinions> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp> > > > too .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > <%40>> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>> > > > ps.com, "astro.surfer"> > > > > > > > > astro.surfer@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real> > culprit?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus> > doing> > > > in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > chart?> > > > > > > > > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the> > native> > > > > > will be> > > > > > > > > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna> > rising in> > > > > > venus> > > > > > > > star.> > > > > > > > > > It is very important to understand this venus as he> > is> > > > the> > > > > > > > > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to> > > > escape> > > > > > > venus,> > > > > > > > > > though he might keep running from it, but it will> > always> > > > > > give good> > > > > > > > > > things in life, things that native will love to> > cherish> > > > and> > > > > > keep> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > his prized possessions.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him> > vaitarni> > > > paar.> > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya.> > It> > > > is no> > > > > > one> > > > > > > > else> > > > > > > > > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this> > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo.> > See> > > > the> > > > > > > subtle> > > > > > > > > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus> > > > takes> > > > > > charge> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in> > > > martian> > > > > > sign in> > > > > > > > D-1> > > > > > > > > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars> > > > personified,> > > > > > is> > > > > > > fully> > > > > > > > > > aspecting with a backward glance.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart,> > it is> > > > > > only the> > > > > > > > > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and> > 7L in> > > > > > natal> > > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being> > 7L,> > > > 7L> > > > > > in 7H> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup,> > > > mars and> > > > > > > Rahu.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is> > > > there in> > > > > > 7H in> > > > > > > > > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary> > > > > > disputes> > > > > > > > between> > > > > > > > > > partners and causes disillusion and> > misunderstandings.> > > > So in> > > > > > > > > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being> > in 9H,> > > > > > venus> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga> > > > > > saptashati in> > > > > > > > rahu> > > > > > > > > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun> > and> > > > > > > retrograde> > > > > > > > > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and> > Karkamsh,> > > > can> > > > > > make> > > > > > > him> > > > > > > > > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially> > dasha> > > > and> > > > > > antar> > > > > > > > > > supporting.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus> > the> > > > > > primordial> > > > > > > > > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his> > own> > > > other> > > > > > > self.> > > > > > > > > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H> > again.> > > > This> > > > > > > venus> > > > > > > > > > relates to dharma.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his> > > > heart?> > > > > > What> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible> > > > combined> > > > > > > > > > significations of venus in 9H.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding.> > I am> > > > > > only a> > > > > > > > > learner.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best regards> > > > > > > > > > Astrosurfer> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. <http://www.avg.com> com> > > > > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release> > Date:> > > > > 10/10/2008 4:08 PM> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date:> > > > 10/10/2008 4:08 PM> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>