Lal kitab -Background and exposition -Pt.Krishan Ashant

September 25, 2008

Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,

I had the good fortune of speaking to Shri Chillarji a couple of times on phone, and found him to be a very helpful and knowledgable person. Unfortunately I couldnot meet him though he gave me an appointment and generous nod to spend the day with him, at his place. He is a elderly person and a Master of lal Kitab. But when we invite him on such forums, it shouldbe strictly mentioned to the members not to put their personal charts for reading to him, but instead discuss the nuances of Lal Kitab with him. On internet most of the people who come for reading requests have no intentions of paying fees, and are accustomed to having free meals. People like Shri Chillar who live in remote places and not in big cities, do not have accessto many sources of incomes like we people are fortunate to have. It would only be respectable to such personages, if their services are taken by paying appropriate Fees, so that the respect is mantained on both sides.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear grp .> > Here Lot of controversy was going on regrding the origin of lal kitab .> > I hav one book which is titled as Lal kitab astrology -back ground and> exposition by pt .Krishan ashant ( gifted by sreenadh ji because of his> anger with me as i think i giv him some K P reader books so may b> retaliated in same way )And the book is translated by R S chillar ( this> is the name sri Bhaskaran ji of our group was mentioning as good lal> kitab pundit )> > This book has given the root questions and doubts abt Lal kitab very> logical way .> > it is adressing following questions and covered all areas almost .> > 1) what is the origin of lal kitab astrology> > 2)what is logic behind its strange remedies> > 3)why the signs of zodiac has not given importance> > 4)why the name of the author is not mentioned> > 5)secrets of principles and logic behind it> > This book is based on all books published in the name of lal kitab frm> 1939 to 1952 ,it i written taking into account all 5 books ( rather> volumes ) and combining the subjuct matter in a harmonious way where as> many books in market and circulation is based on one of the volumes> generaly .> > This the author has done a lecture also in 1997 in indian council of> astrological sciences delhi chapter also abt Lal kitab and its origins .> > so book deals with various misconceptions abt lal kitab ( some says> devine origin ,some says heavenly direction ,some says some spirit> enetered in body of original author ,some says it is arbic or urdu text> ,some says it is prevalent among arabs etc etc )> > > > here i can write the nutshell of its origin frm the words of author> himself ( pt >krishan ashant )> > so he says "In reality ,the principles of lal kitab as a system of> astrology were preavalentin the hilly tracts frm himachal pradesh to> kashmir .The author was employed in the area and happened to come across> many scripts during the service of his tenure there .In future ,if we go> to interior of those areas in search of astrological knowledge .we may> able to trace the roots of the 'Lal Kitab' system of astrological> prediction there "> > > > Dear group we will b inviting sri chillar ji to our grp and if his time> allows ( he is very busy and professional too ) he himself may come> forward to clear some of our doubts and i am expecting soon ( but pls > those who run after every astrologer shud steer away frm desturbing him> )> > the publisher is> > > > shilalekh ,4/32.subhash gali ,vishwas Nagar ,sahadra .delhi -110032> > ph nos -22044184/22041327 ( may b changed also )> > here i am just giving information and not advtising ,so it is ur> discreetion to go for any books> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .>

September 25, 2008

Hare rama krishna

Respected bhaskar ji

Thanks for the post and clarification .On ppl who disturbs astrologers on regular basis i agree with u ,and i dont know how ppl dont hav self respect and i dont know how they cant understand the real gems and support them .Then u can see they r crying around in grps and forums for yrs .

I Hope He may join our grp and enlighten us on various aspects of Lal kitab .U can also help us in this regrd

Thank u sir

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > I had the good fortune of speaking to Shri Chillarji a couple of times> on phone, and found him to be a very helpful and knowledgable person.> Unfortunately I couldnot meet him though he gave me an appointment and> generous nod to spend the day with him, at his place. He is a elderly> person and a Master of lal Kitab. But when we invite him on such forums,> it shouldbe strictly mentioned to the members not to put their personal> charts for reading to him, but instead discuss the nuances of Lal Kitab> with him. On internet most of the people who come for reading requests> have no intentions of paying fees, and are accustomed to having free> meals. People like Shri Chillar who live in remote places and not in big> cities, do not have accessto many sources of incomes like we people are> fortunate to have. It would only be respectable to such personages, if> their services are taken by paying appropriate Fees, so that the respect> is mantained on both sides.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> >> > dear grp .> >> > Here Lot of controversy was going on regrding the origin of lal kitab> .> >> > I hav one book which is titled as Lal kitab astrology -back ground and> > exposition by pt .Krishan ashant ( gifted by sreenadh ji because of> his> > anger with me as i think i giv him some K P reader books so may b> > retaliated in same way )And the book is translated by R S chillar (> this> > is the name sri Bhaskaran ji of our group was mentioning as good lal> > kitab pundit )> >> > This book has given the root questions and doubts abt Lal kitab very> > logical way .> >> > it is adressing following questions and covered all areas almost .> >> > 1) what is the origin of lal kitab astrology> >> > 2)what is logic behind its strange remedies> >> > 3)why the signs of zodiac has not given importance> >> > 4)why the name of the author is not mentioned> >> > 5)secrets of principles and logic behind it> >> > This book is based on all books published in the name of lal kitab frm> > 1939 to 1952 ,it i written taking into account all 5 books ( rather> > volumes ) and combining the subjuct matter in a harmonious way where> as> > many books in market and circulation is based on one of the volumes> > generaly .> >> > This the author has done a lecture also in 1997 in indian council of> > astrological sciences delhi chapter also abt Lal kitab and its origins> .> >> > so book deals with various misconceptions abt lal kitab ( some says> > devine origin ,some says heavenly direction ,some says some spirit> > enetered in body of original author ,some says it is arbic or urdu> text> > ,some says it is prevalent among arabs etc etc )> >> >> >> > here i can write the nutshell of its origin frm the words of author> > himself ( pt >krishan ashant )> >> > so he says "In reality ,the principles of lal kitab as a system of> > astrology were preavalentin the hilly tracts frm himachal pradesh to> > kashmir .The author was employed in the area and happened to come> across> > many scripts during the service of his tenure there .In future ,if we> go> > to interior of those areas in search of astrological knowledge .we may> > able to trace the roots of the 'Lal Kitab' system of astrological> > prediction there "> >> >> >> > Dear group we will b inviting sri chillar ji to our grp and if his> time> > allows ( he is very busy and professional too ) he himself may come> > forward to clear some of our doubts and i am expecting soon ( but pls> > those who run after every astrologer shud steer away frm desturbing> him> > )> >> > the publisher is> >> >> >> > shilalekh ,4/32.subhash gali ,vishwas Nagar ,sahadra .delhi -110032> >> > ph nos -22044184/22041327 ( may b changed also )> >> > here i am just giving information and not advtising ,so it is ur> > discreetion to go for any books> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >>

September 25, 2008

Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji and Sri Sunil Ji,

Sri Raj Chiller Ji is a member of Jyotish-Ganga Forum (owned by

Bhaskar Ji) i have interacted with him in the same forum and i

request Bhaskar Ji to persue and ask him to Join our AIA forum as

well... so that we all benefit from his knowledge sharing.

Regards

Chandu

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,

>

> I had the good fortune of speaking to Shri Chillarji a couple of

times

> on phone, and found him to be a very helpful and knowledgable

person.

> Unfortunately I couldnot meet him though he gave me an appointment

and

> generous nod to spend the day with him, at his place. He is a

elderly

> person and a Master of lal Kitab. But when we invite him on such

forums,

> it shouldbe strictly mentioned to the members not to put their

personal

> charts for reading to him, but instead discuss the nuances of Lal

Kitab

> with him. On internet most of the people who come for reading

requests

> have no intentions of paying fees, and are accustomed to having free

> meals. People like Shri Chillar who live in remote places and not

in big

> cities, do not have accessto many sources of incomes like we people

are

> fortunate to have. It would only be respectable to such personages,

if

> their services are taken by paying appropriate Fees, so that the

respect

> is mantained on both sides.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

, " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear grp .

> >

> > Here Lot of controversy was going on regrding the origin of lal

kitab

> .

> >

> > I hav one book which is titled as Lal kitab astrology -back

ground and

> > exposition by pt .Krishan ashant ( gifted by sreenadh ji because

of

> his

> > anger with me as i think i giv him some K P reader books so may b

> > retaliated in same way )And the book is translated by R S chillar

(

> this

> > is the name sri Bhaskaran ji of our group was mentioning as good

lal

> > kitab pundit )

> >

> > This book has given the root questions and doubts abt Lal kitab

very

> > logical way .

> >

> > it is adressing following questions and covered all areas almost .

> >

> > 1) what is the origin of lal kitab astrology

> >

> > 2)what is logic behind its strange remedies

> >

> > 3)why the signs of zodiac has not given importance

> >

> > 4)why the name of the author is not mentioned

> >

> > 5)secrets of principles and logic behind it

> >

> > This book is based on all books published in the name of lal

kitab frm

> > 1939 to 1952 ,it i written taking into account all 5 books (

rather

> > volumes ) and combining the subjuct matter in a harmonious way

where

> as

> > many books in market and circulation is based on one of the

volumes

> > generaly .

> >

> > This the author has done a lecture also in 1997 in indian council

of

> > astrological sciences delhi chapter also abt Lal kitab and its

origins

> .

> >

> > so book deals with various misconceptions abt lal kitab ( some

says

> > devine origin ,some says heavenly direction ,some says some spirit

> > enetered in body of original author ,some says it is arbic or urdu

> text

> > ,some says it is prevalent among arabs etc etc )

> >

> > here i can write the nutshell of its origin frm the words of

author

> > himself ( pt >krishan ashant )

> >

> > so he says " In reality ,the principles of lal kitab as a system of

> > astrology were preavalentin the hilly tracts frm himachal pradesh

to

> > kashmir .The author was employed in the area and happened to come

> across

> > many scripts during the service of his tenure there .In

future ,if we

> go

> > to interior of those areas in search of astrological

knowledge .we may

> > able to trace the roots of the 'Lal Kitab' system of astrological

> > prediction there "

> >

> > Dear group we will b inviting sri chillar ji to our grp and if his

> time

> > allows ( he is very busy and professional too ) he himself may

come

> > forward to clear some of our doubts and i am expecting soon ( but

pls

> > those who run after every astrologer shud steer away frm

desturbing

> him

> > )

> >

> > the publisher is

> >

> > shilalekh ,4/32.subhash gali ,vishwas Nagar ,sahadra .delhi -

110032

> >

> > ph nos -22044184/22041327 ( may b changed also )

> >

> > here i am just giving information and not advtising ,so it is ur

> > discreetion to go for any books

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> >

>

September 25, 2008

Dear Shri Chandu Chillji,

I am aware of this . I had promised Shri Chillarji that I will send him some Fees and get some reading done from him on my personal Horoscope as well as family members, but due to financial constraints and other priorities, could not do this till now, and I dont believe in free readings and have never done so in my life, nor shall resort to any free asking in this Life ever, for any product,services or favours. This is the reason I cannot contact him as of now. Probably after giving him some professional work from my side, after Mercury goes direct, I shall be able to approach him and request him to join this forum. But I do not need to do this. Anyone here can do so. Another point wy I cant face him is, I did not keep my promise to him in my last visit to Delhi, after his giving me detailed instructions of his address in Rohtak, and fixing the day when I could meet him, and his promising to remain at home that day, I could not bring myself to embark on the tedious journey of going to Rohtak last winter in the chilly cold of December-Jan. Due to my inability to keep promises on both counts 1) On sending him Fees for reading request 2) On visiting him on the appointed day, I am now unable to approach him for any further requests, at least for the time being, till I do some repair work, and damage control.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji and Sri Sunil Ji,> > Sri Raj Chiller Ji is a member of Jyotish-Ganga Forum (owned by > Bhaskar Ji) i have interacted with him in the same forum and i > request Bhaskar Ji to persue and ask him to Join our AIA forum as > well... so that we all benefit from his knowledge sharing.> > Regards> > Chandu> > > , "Bhaskar" > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > > > I had the good fortune of speaking to Shri Chillarji a couple of > times> > on phone, and found him to be a very helpful and knowledgable > person.> > Unfortunately I couldnot meet him though he gave me an appointment > and> > generous nod to spend the day with him, at his place. He is a > elderly> > person and a Master of lal Kitab. But when we invite him on such > forums,> > it shouldbe strictly mentioned to the members not to put their > personal> > charts for reading to him, but instead discuss the nuances of Lal > Kitab> > with him. On internet most of the people who come for reading > requests> > have no intentions of paying fees, and are accustomed to having free> > meals. People like Shri Chillar who live in remote places and not > in big> > cities, do not have accessto many sources of incomes like we people > are> > fortunate to have. It would only be respectable to such personages, > if> > their services are taken by paying appropriate Fees, so that the > respect> > is mantained on both sides.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare rama krishna> > >> > > dear grp .> > >> > > Here Lot of controversy was going on regrding the origin of lal > kitab> > .> > >> > > I hav one book which is titled as Lal kitab astrology -back > ground and> > > exposition by pt .Krishan ashant ( gifted by sreenadh ji because > of> > his> > > anger with me as i think i giv him some K P reader books so may b> > > retaliated in same way )And the book is translated by R S chillar > (> > this> > > is the name sri Bhaskaran ji of our group was mentioning as good > lal> > > kitab pundit )> > >> > > This book has given the root questions and doubts abt Lal kitab > very> > > logical way .> > >> > > it is adressing following questions and covered all areas almost .> > >> > > 1) what is the origin of lal kitab astrology> > >> > > 2)what is logic behind its strange remedies> > >> > > 3)why the signs of zodiac has not given importance> > >> > > 4)why the name of the author is not mentioned> > >> > > 5)secrets of principles and logic behind it> > >> > > This book is based on all books published in the name of lal > kitab frm> > > 1939 to 1952 ,it i written taking into account all 5 books ( > rather> > > volumes ) and combining the subjuct matter in a harmonious way > where> > as> > > many books in market and circulation is based on one of the > volumes> > > generaly .> > >> > > This the author has done a lecture also in 1997 in indian council > of> > > astrological sciences delhi chapter also abt Lal kitab and its > origins> > .> > >> > > so book deals with various misconceptions abt lal kitab ( some > says> > > devine origin ,some says heavenly direction ,some says some spirit> > > enetered in body of original author ,some says it is arbic or urdu> > text> > > ,some says it is prevalent among arabs etc etc )> > >> > >> > >> > > here i can write the nutshell of its origin frm the words of > author> > > himself ( pt >krishan ashant )> > >> > > so he says "In reality ,the principles of lal kitab as a system of> > > astrology were preavalentin the hilly tracts frm himachal pradesh > to> > > kashmir .The author was employed in the area and happened to come> > across> > > many scripts during the service of his tenure there .In > future ,if we> > go> > > to interior of those areas in search of astrological > knowledge .we may> > > able to trace the roots of the 'Lal Kitab' system of astrological> > > prediction there "> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear group we will b inviting sri chillar ji to our grp and if his> > time> > > allows ( he is very busy and professional too ) he himself may > come> > > forward to clear some of our doubts and i am expecting soon ( but > pls> > > those who run after every astrologer shud steer away frm > desturbing> > him> > > )> > >> > > the publisher is> > >> > >> > >> > > shilalekh ,4/32.subhash gali ,vishwas Nagar ,sahadra .delhi -> 110032> > >> > > ph nos -22044184/22041327 ( may b changed also )> > >> > > here i am just giving information and not advtising ,so it is ur> > > discreetion to go for any books> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > >> >>

September 25, 2008

Hare rama krishna

dear chandu ji

Sure ,we will try to bring him to our forum if god willing and i hope he may help us to clear some of our doubts

i am going to conct him tru phone also along with a formal request to join in our grp .

thanks and regrds

sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

, "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji and Sri Sunil Ji,> > Sri Raj Chiller Ji is a member of Jyotish-Ganga Forum (owned by > Bhaskar Ji) i have interacted with him in the same forum and i > request Bhaskar Ji to persue and ask him to Join our AIA forum as > well... so that we all benefit from his knowledge sharing.> > Regards> > Chandu> > > , "Bhaskar" > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > > > I had the good fortune of speaking to Shri Chillarji a couple of > times> > on phone, and found him to be a very helpful and knowledgable > person.> > Unfortunately I couldnot meet him though he gave me an appointment > and> > generous nod to spend the day with him, at his place. He is a > elderly> > person and a Master of lal Kitab. But when we invite him on such > forums,> > it shouldbe strictly mentioned to the members not to put their > personal> > charts for reading to him, but instead discuss the nuances of Lal > Kitab> > with him. On internet most of the people who come for reading > requests> > have no intentions of paying fees, and are accustomed to having free> > meals. People like Shri Chillar who live in remote places and not > in big> > cities, do not have accessto many sources of incomes like we people > are> > fortunate to have. It would only be respectable to such personages, > if> > their services are taken by paying appropriate Fees, so that the > respect> > is mantained on both sides.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare rama krishna> > >> > > dear grp .> > >> > > Here Lot of controversy was going on regrding the origin of lal > kitab> > .> > >> > > I hav one book which is titled as Lal kitab astrology -back > ground and> > > exposition by pt .Krishan ashant ( gifted by sreenadh ji because > of> > his> > > anger with me as i think i giv him some K P reader books so may b> > > retaliated in same way )And the book is translated by R S chillar > (> > this> > > is the name sri Bhaskaran ji of our group was mentioning as good > lal> > > kitab pundit )> > >> > > This book has given the root questions and doubts abt Lal kitab > very> > > logical way .> > >> > > it is adressing following questions and covered all areas almost .> > >> > > 1) what is the origin of lal kitab astrology> > >> > > 2)what is logic behind its strange remedies> > >> > > 3)why the signs of zodiac has not given importance> > >> > > 4)why the name of the author is not mentioned> > >> > > 5)secrets of principles and logic behind it> > >> > > This book is based on all books published in the name of lal > kitab frm> > > 1939 to 1952 ,it i written taking into account all 5 books ( > rather> > > volumes ) and combining the subjuct matter in a harmonious way > where> > as> > > many books in market and circulation is based on one of the > volumes> > > generaly .> > >> > > This the author has done a lecture also in 1997 in indian council > of> > > astrological sciences delhi chapter also abt Lal kitab and its > origins> > .> > >> > > so book deals with various misconceptions abt lal kitab ( some > says> > > devine origin ,some says heavenly direction ,some says some spirit> > > enetered in body of original author ,some says it is arbic or urdu> > text> > > ,some says it is prevalent among arabs etc etc )> > >> > >> > >> > > here i can write the nutshell of its origin frm the words of > author> > > himself ( pt >krishan ashant )> > >> > > so he says "In reality ,the principles of lal kitab as a system of> > > astrology were preavalentin the hilly tracts frm himachal pradesh > to> > > kashmir .The author was employed in the area and happened to come> > across> > > many scripts during the service of his tenure there .In > future ,if we> > go> > > to interior of those areas in search of astrological > knowledge .we may> > > able to trace the roots of the 'Lal Kitab' system of astrological> > > prediction there "> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear group we will b inviting sri chillar ji to our grp and if his> > time> > > allows ( he is very busy and professional too ) he himself may > come> > > forward to clear some of our doubts and i am expecting soon ( but > pls> > > those who run after every astrologer shud steer away frm > desturbing> > him> > > )> > >> > > the publisher is> > >> > >> > >> > > shilalekh ,4/32.subhash gali ,vishwas Nagar ,sahadra .delhi -> 110032> > >> > > ph nos -22044184/22041327 ( may b changed also )> > >> > > here i am just giving information and not advtising ,so it is ur> > > discreetion to go for any books> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > >> >>